christianity or natives faith that doesnt matter... as time goes on the religions will be outdated... and eventually people will be smart enough to realize how they have been fooled by so called religions...
@ImperialEarthEmpirem, a lot of Natives weren't religious but at least they weren't condemned like the non-believers were in Europe. My ancestors lived right in between polytheistic and Monotheists... we were atheists -_-
@ImperialEarthEmpire You have very nice grammar. It's only natural for humans to always want an answer. Just because you don't believe in any official religion, doesn't mean you have to be athiest. I do not believe in any actual religion, but I do believe in afterlife and a god. Yet I do not know of this "God"
@gamezonic Well a lot. If you look at what the thought. you can see that the Incas believed in one all powerful god who created the heavens and the earth. Everything else he created is just an intermediary to get to their god. So you want proof. There it is! dont believe me, look it up, two go down there, and three try to have a more open mind!
are ancestors believed in re-birth the maya&nahuatl is slowly being re-born,im see ing it everywere,the people are starting to accept there true heritage,religion,connection to the spirit world,if you take a child away from his father he will still have his fathers traits and heart,if you take a people away from the essence of there past like ares ,it will be re-born
@Koryuhoka human sacrifices have been proven with the historical method, you're the one lying. We don't need our ancestors to be perfect in order to be peaceful to each other today. It doesn't mean everyone was a cannibal or a religious fanatic, but some of your ancestors were these things, if not hundreds of years ago, then for sure thousands or tens of thousands. The past does not equal the future, but don't spin lies about our past.
@GeorgiaTheJungle, I dunno who you were replying to but most of our Sacrifices were done either against other warriors or criminals. We didn't go around killing the innocent (well, Montezuma the FAGGOT did but thats another story)
We Indigenous people have to stop believing the lies about the human sacrifices. We did not do that. These are lies to make us hate our past. We should despise these attempts to have others tell us our own history. We were not cannibals. We lived in peace with each other and in peace with the other Indigenous tribes of the Americas. These are lies planted in history to break us apart as a people.
Amazing that Spaniards killed many people by the sword, gun and germs all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. In contrast, many less were killed by the sacrifice and oath to the Aztec gods. In their own respect, lives were lost. However, Spaniards continued the massacre for hundreds of years following the invasion and occupation. On top of that, the Spaniard's stiff contradiction raped and loved a significant number of indigenous woman. Its no wonder why indigenous spirit continues and ...
@webmandman and Spaniards got the aid by other indigenous tribes who opposite Aztec. Spaniards and other tribes defeated them in THE SECOND BATTLE, due to the disease spreading Aztec warriors after the first battle (Aztecs already defeated Spaniards in the first battle). And yet, Spaniards looted many things from Aztec then sold them to Europe to make them richer.
@Annikaza, well. In the Seige of Tenochtitlan, BOTH Account (the Aztec and SPanish) claim they had the same number of men. The Spanish having a few hundred less. Yes, a LOT of warriors died from diseases which was a problem since the Aztecs didn't have any artillery which gave the Spanish a HUGE advantage. THe cannons were able to break down the walls -_-.. not to mention they were attacking from All sides which fucked the Aztecs up. They weren't prepared to fight artillery.
@Annikaza, well. In the Seige of Tenochtitlan, BOTH Account (the Aztec and SPanish) claim they had the same number of men. The Spanish having a few hundred less. Yes, a LOT of warriors died from diseases which was a problem since the Aztecs didn't have any artillery which gave the Spanish a HUGE advantage. THe cannons were able to break down the walls -_-.. not to mention they were attacking from All sides which fucked the Aztecs up. They weren't prepared to fight artillery.
A lot can be said about the Spanish Conquistadores but nothing will take away their bravery and guts , they crossed the ocean , and challenged the unkown, its no small thing. They were no saints and did a lot of bad things , I guess they will forever be seen in good light but some and bad light by others , its their legacy . Never offend a country for the actions it undertook in some particular period of history because all countries have their own dirty clothes to wash.
our people would hold games 2 hit a 10pound ball through a lop and the LOSERS LEADER would WILLINGLY sacrifice his LIFE*.!! fuck spAIN.!! pussy ass people who couldn't fight so used DISEASES 2 conquer.!!
so wat if they sacrificed people.. it happen 500 years ago ..and I think its really interesting how they did it and how the Aztecs devotion to their deities was way more powerful then that of the christians
now you see how european invaders treated my people...thats why Santo Juan Diego had to put a stop to it because the vigin mary told him...it was causing her great pain and sorrow...
@mexivato210 You do know that there is almost no proof that a Juan Diego existed r that the event in the legend even happened. Also that the legend furhter whitewashes Mexican History and erases Aztecs or whatever term you want to use from their own history.
This director is like Terrence Malick, he makes this epic film and then disappears for years. I hear he teaches now in Los Angeles, just a real mystic!
We need to bring it back without the human sacrifice. There is already a decent sized group of people calling themselves Nahua Reconstructionists who worship the Aztec gods. That would just be the next step.
if you really want to practice the ancient faith and worship and honor the gods of aztlan than a sacrifice is needed to please the gods in order for it to be proper...only true aztlan believers do it
"Teotl" is the Nahuatl word for anything sacred, powerful, or unexplainable. They called the beings they worshipped and built temples to Teotl, or Teteo in the plural form. I think that sacred, powerful and unexplainable could be used to describe a god. No, they didn't sacrifice criminals back then. They sacrificed captive warriors and slaves bought to be sacrificed. Sacrifice was an honor, so why would they sacrifice criminals. You need to stop listening to those "Mexica Movement" idiots.
Good point! I did get into a small debate with a Mexica and told him "WHen the Spanish said tehy saw sacrifices...THEY SAW SACRIFICES!"....2 people can't be in different places/times/etc and have the same exact story without having met one another. Still..where are all the skeletons of the Sacrificed victims?
The skeletons have been found in and around the Great Pyramid, and there are surviving paintings in codices and in Maya temples that depict sacrifice. There are even native Nahua accounts that say pretty much, "Yeah, we sacrificed people, and we didn't find anything wrong with it". Seriously, stop listening to the Mexica Movement idiots.
I'm not even a Mexica Movement supporter..my dad's white!...you're making some dumb assumptions about me. I think the number of people who were scarified was EXAGGERATED on the Spaniard's account. I even argued with one of the guys and I told him "Mayans do not lie about it and neither did the Spanish"
Ollin Tezcatlipoca, an idiot who dishonors the name of a great and powerful god, claims that the Aztec "had no gods" among other ridiculous things. Avoid all contact with the Mexica Movement if at all possible.
Teotl is the Nahuatl word for anything sacred, powerful and mysterious. The beings worshipped in the temples were called Teteo, the plural form of the word, and gods are sacred, powerful, and mysterious. Ometeotl is exactly that, a force, like gravity, not any kind of deity.
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hahahahhaaha my film teacher directed and edited and wrote this. lol
theVINTAGEfilms 1 month ago
Religions stupid and are for ignorant scared losers! :D
Mattargeetar 4 months ago
christianity or natives faith that doesnt matter... as time goes on the religions will be outdated... and eventually people will be smart enough to realize how they have been fooled by so called religions...
ImperialEarthEmpire 6 months ago 5
@ImperialEarthEmpirem, a lot of Natives weren't religious but at least they weren't condemned like the non-believers were in Europe. My ancestors lived right in between polytheistic and Monotheists... we were atheists -_-
NeCacaluXuxultic 3 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire How far back can you go into history? Including times like the Big Bang and wayyy before?
gamezonic 3 months ago
@gamezonic how far religions can prove that?
ImperialEarthEmpire 3 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire You have very nice grammar. It's only natural for humans to always want an answer. Just because you don't believe in any official religion, doesn't mean you have to be athiest. I do not believe in any actual religion, but I do believe in afterlife and a god. Yet I do not know of this "God"
gamezonic 3 months ago
@gamezonic i agree... believe in god n believe in religions are not the same things...
ImperialEarthEmpire 3 months ago
@gamezonic Did you know that the Incas where monotheists?
sesrunner08 3 months ago
@sesrunner08 What does that have to do with anything?
gamezonic 3 months ago
@gamezonic Well a lot. If you look at what the thought. you can see that the Incas believed in one all powerful god who created the heavens and the earth. Everything else he created is just an intermediary to get to their god. So you want proof. There it is! dont believe me, look it up, two go down there, and three try to have a more open mind!
sesrunner08 3 months ago
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@ImperialEarthEmpire Did you know that the Incas where monotheists?
sesrunner08 3 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Chritinity is not a religion! :)
msBoombox 1 month ago
are ancestors believed in re-birth the maya&nahuatl is slowly being re-born,im see ing it everywere,the people are starting to accept there true heritage,religion,connection to the spirit world,if you take a child away from his father he will still have his fathers traits and heart,if you take a people away from the essence of there past like ares ,it will be re-born
acu1inamillion 6 months ago 2
@Koryuhoka human sacrifices have been proven with the historical method, you're the one lying. We don't need our ancestors to be perfect in order to be peaceful to each other today. It doesn't mean everyone was a cannibal or a religious fanatic, but some of your ancestors were these things, if not hundreds of years ago, then for sure thousands or tens of thousands. The past does not equal the future, but don't spin lies about our past.
GeorgiaTheJungle 7 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle, I dunno who you were replying to but most of our Sacrifices were done either against other warriors or criminals. We didn't go around killing the innocent (well, Montezuma the FAGGOT did but thats another story)
NeCacaluXuxultic 3 months ago
Span really fucked us up.and toke all our gold.that's why Mexico is poor.if we where to reclaim all that gold back.Mexico would be Rich.
aajego13 10 months ago
@aajego13 not just mexico all of central america
acu1inamillion 6 months ago
Is that Rudy Youngblood?
Amamkoncahuanquichu 10 months ago
You mean another epic bunch of lies.
We Indigenous people have to stop believing the lies about the human sacrifices. We did not do that. These are lies to make us hate our past. We should despise these attempts to have others tell us our own history. We were not cannibals. We lived in peace with each other and in peace with the other Indigenous tribes of the Americas. These are lies planted in history to break us apart as a people.
Koryuhoka 11 months ago
Fuck The Spanish Aztecas and Mayas All Day
MEXICANPACHUCO14 1 year ago
What's that classical music in here called??
CKabayan 1 year ago
@CKabayan "dies irae" from Mozart's requiem. Happy birthday to him!!
adamgm80 1 year ago
@adamgm80
Thank You!
CKabayan 1 year ago
- why there is no honer in the Spanish fashion.
webmandman 1 year ago
Amazing that Spaniards killed many people by the sword, gun and germs all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. In contrast, many less were killed by the sacrifice and oath to the Aztec gods. In their own respect, lives were lost. However, Spaniards continued the massacre for hundreds of years following the invasion and occupation. On top of that, the Spaniard's stiff contradiction raped and loved a significant number of indigenous woman. Its no wonder why indigenous spirit continues and ...
webmandman 1 year ago
@webmandman and Spaniards got the aid by other indigenous tribes who opposite Aztec. Spaniards and other tribes defeated them in THE SECOND BATTLE, due to the disease spreading Aztec warriors after the first battle (Aztecs already defeated Spaniards in the first battle). And yet, Spaniards looted many things from Aztec then sold them to Europe to make them richer.
Annikaza 9 months ago
@Annikaza, well. In the Seige of Tenochtitlan, BOTH Account (the Aztec and SPanish) claim they had the same number of men. The Spanish having a few hundred less. Yes, a LOT of warriors died from diseases which was a problem since the Aztecs didn't have any artillery which gave the Spanish a HUGE advantage. THe cannons were able to break down the walls -_-.. not to mention they were attacking from All sides which fucked the Aztecs up. They weren't prepared to fight artillery.
NeCacaluXuxultic 3 months ago
@Annikaza, well. In the Seige of Tenochtitlan, BOTH Account (the Aztec and SPanish) claim they had the same number of men. The Spanish having a few hundred less. Yes, a LOT of warriors died from diseases which was a problem since the Aztecs didn't have any artillery which gave the Spanish a HUGE advantage. THe cannons were able to break down the walls -_-.. not to mention they were attacking from All sides which fucked the Aztecs up. They weren't prepared to fight artillery.
NeCacaluXuxultic 3 months ago
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i know the main character from this movie!!! hes my acting coach!!! <3
BlissMadness 1 year ago
A lot can be said about the Spanish Conquistadores but nothing will take away their bravery and guts , they crossed the ocean , and challenged the unkown, its no small thing. They were no saints and did a lot of bad things , I guess they will forever be seen in good light but some and bad light by others , its their legacy . Never offend a country for the actions it undertook in some particular period of history because all countries have their own dirty clothes to wash.
Hospitaller78 1 year ago
our people would hold games 2 hit a 10pound ball through a lop and the LOSERS LEADER would WILLINGLY sacrifice his LIFE*.!! fuck spAIN.!! pussy ass people who couldn't fight so used DISEASES 2 conquer.!!
oJAYarista 1 year ago
so wat if they sacrificed people.. it happen 500 years ago ..and I think its really interesting how they did it and how the Aztecs devotion to their deities was way more powerful then that of the christians
8jimador 1 year ago
the aztecs didn't do human sacrifice the sacrificed animals. the spaniards are the killers.
1980vince 1 year ago
The Other Conquest will screen at the Getty Villa Museum in Los Angeles on June 23 at 7:30 PM with a Q&A with director Salvador Carrasco!
AndrewMann552 1 year ago
when was this released ?
hunterallen48 1 year ago
Finally conquistadores on film! suck on you savage aztecs
thunderballzz 1 year ago
fuck christianity
1Mafioso4 2 years ago
now you see how european invaders treated my people...thats why Santo Juan Diego had to put a stop to it because the vigin mary told him...it was causing her great pain and sorrow...
mexivato210 2 years ago
wtf
analfabeta44 2 years ago
umm the virgin Guadalupe (i dunno why you call her Mary) NEVER existed
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
@NeCacaluXuxultic Well yeah neither have any other gods, but she is a mixture of Mesoamerican and Catholic beliefs.
RoyalKnightVII 1 year ago
@RoyalKnightVII, mostly catholic. Either way, the creation of her is the demise of Mexica culture.
im1990 1 year ago
@im1990 I suppose so... kinda sad when you really think about it, shame Nahuatl is being furhter forgotten for use of Spanish and now English.
Though I dunno English and Nahuatl have some similarities.
RoyalKnightVII 1 year ago
@mexivato210 You do know that there is almost no proof that a Juan Diego existed r that the event in the legend even happened. Also that the legend furhter whitewashes Mexican History and erases Aztecs or whatever term you want to use from their own history.
RoyalKnightVII 1 year ago
This director is like Terrence Malick, he makes this epic film and then disappears for years. I hear he teaches now in Los Angeles, just a real mystic!
AndrewMann552 2 years ago
Fuck Christianity, we need to bring back the Aztec religion.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
yes of course, for what's better than human sacrifices or the squeezing of baby-heads? *rolls eyes* Bloody idiot...
Exerzet 2 years ago
We need to bring it back without the human sacrifice. There is already a decent sized group of people calling themselves Nahua Reconstructionists who worship the Aztec gods. That would just be the next step.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
if you really want to practice the ancient faith and worship and honor the gods of aztlan than a sacrifice is needed to please the gods in order for it to be proper...only true aztlan believers do it
mexivato210 2 years ago
I speak Nahuatl and we don't even have a word for "gods". IN FACT.. most of these Mesoamerican religions were either atheist or agnostic
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
"Teotl" is the Nahuatl word for anything sacred, powerful, or unexplainable. They called the beings they worshipped and built temples to Teotl, or Teteo in the plural form. I think that sacred, powerful and unexplainable could be used to describe a god. No, they didn't sacrifice criminals back then. They sacrificed captive warriors and slaves bought to be sacrificed. Sacrifice was an honor, so why would they sacrifice criminals. You need to stop listening to those "Mexica Movement" idiots.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
Good point! I did get into a small debate with a Mexica and told him "WHen the Spanish said tehy saw sacrifices...THEY SAW SACRIFICES!"....2 people can't be in different places/times/etc and have the same exact story without having met one another. Still..where are all the skeletons of the Sacrificed victims?
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
The skeletons have been found in and around the Great Pyramid, and there are surviving paintings in codices and in Maya temples that depict sacrifice. There are even native Nahua accounts that say pretty much, "Yeah, we sacrificed people, and we didn't find anything wrong with it". Seriously, stop listening to the Mexica Movement idiots.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
I'm not even a Mexica Movement supporter..my dad's white!...you're making some dumb assumptions about me. I think the number of people who were scarified was EXAGGERATED on the Spaniard's account. I even argued with one of the guys and I told him "Mayans do not lie about it and neither did the Spanish"
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
Mexica Movement has never claimed that sacrifice never existed, where are you getting this from?
Outlaw91791 2 years ago
Ollin Tezcatlipoca, an idiot who dishonors the name of a great and powerful god, claims that the Aztec "had no gods" among other ridiculous things. Avoid all contact with the Mexica Movement if at all possible.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
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Outlaw91791 2 years ago
Teotl is the Nahuatl word for anything sacred, powerful and mysterious. The beings worshipped in the temples were called Teteo, the plural form of the word, and gods are sacred, powerful, and mysterious. Ometeotl is exactly that, a force, like gravity, not any kind of deity.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
Could I get in contact with you? I am a Historian and a Mexican born in the United States.
Grecia1402 2 years ago
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NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
why not sacrifice Mass murderers and Pedophiles? that's how they did it back then :D
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
agreed... it's just as barbaric anyways XD
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
so were cani isee this movie or dwdl it?
agus626 3 years ago
nope cant find it lol some one who has it plz post it and tell me
agus626 3 years ago
thnks but can you give me the direct link?
agus626 3 years ago
there are some really SEXY south american bitches in this movie belive me.
marzipan260 3 years ago
find a bitch in yr family!
snuffles1111 2 years ago
this is more innacurate than apocalypto
marzipan260 3 years ago
its not there no more do you know any were else were i can see it i speack spanish so it ddsnt matter if its in spanish
agus626 3 years ago
DOES ANY ONE KNOW WERE I CAN DNWLD THIS MOVIE? or have it?!!if you have it please post on a torrent and tell me so i can dwdln it THNKS!
agus626 3 years ago
Is there any films similar to this other than Apocolypto?
TOPMIZ 3 years ago
Yea... I will do anything to watch this movie...
rizkyadika 3 years ago
sorry... I'm just asking. I agree that the other conquest are way better than Apocalypto.
rizkyadika 3 years ago
So Apocalypto was a prequel, right?
rizkyadika 3 years ago
i wanna see this movie so bad =(
i think it was banned in mexico, i am reading a book about the Zapatistas and and Indigenas of mexico and it talks about the movie.
unknownUtuber1986 3 years ago
No it was never banned form cinemas, i was a huge hit and it broke box office records for a mexican movie.
csnc82 3 years ago
when this coming out?
MCHUMMA 4 years ago
this movie is a little old.
i saw it on a movie theater when it was new like 8 years ago(maybe less).
tezkatepuka 4 years ago
That looks good! s t r a i g h t - u p . i n f o
SANxJONERO 4 years ago
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yomamagotbigtities 4 years ago
Thank you very much for this information. At last on DVD! In Europe too?
julia59 4 years ago