Torture Charges filed against George W. Bush by members of the Montreal Truth Movement

[Diarmuhnd]

Harpers election promise & PC stance on "Getting tough on crime" was nothing more than a lie since he allows self confessed war criminals to enter Canada. We the Canadian People will NOT forget or forgive your hypocracy.

Whats next, a Canadian Gestapo force to silence your critics? Will you allow the police to water board me to force me to confess to some crime to help fill your new prisons? Harper, you are GUILTY of harboring WAR CRIMINALS.

Welcome to the Democratic Police State voters.

[MTL911Truth]

Please everyone, don't feed the trolls.

[c6gunner]

That's funny ... I've never had a troll call me a troll, before.

[spilka987]

9/11 Truth just wants an investigation. There is obviously ample evidence contradicting the official story and the families of the victims still have the majority of their questions unanswered. How about we gather all of the information(for and against) and use the courts so that they may decide what is just!

[c6gunner]

No, "9/11 Truth" doesn't just want an investigation. "9/11 Truth" is a movement which has already decided what it believes, and will not be swayed by any number of investigations. This dishonest "we're just asking questions" crap is pulled by all sorts of idiots, and it's never convincing. At least have the balls to admit what you believe, regardless of how insane it may be.

[911reset]

@c6gunner

says a man who believes there were no explosives in wtc because us gvt "said so". ahahaha. gunner, are you a cop maybe? only cops and soldiers can be as stupid as you are. seriously.

[greywolf424]

PROVE THERE WERE EXPLOSIVES IN THE BUILDING.... stupid cunt.

[greywolf424]

The fact you keep demanding something that doesn't exist proves you are a desperate moronic ass clown

[911reset]

@greywolf424

then explain those two collapses floor by floor, dumbass. i mean, ask your "experts" to do it for you, will you? get back at me, dumbass.

[greywolf424]

You are the one claiming the official story is false, therefore it is up to you to prove it, but, clearly you're too stupid to understand that.

[c6gunner]

You seem to be under the strange impression that constantly repeating the words "floor by floor" somehow makes you sound intelligent. Do you even understand what you're asking for? How did you come up with this "requirement"?

More importantly, why in the world would it be my - or anyones - responsibility to provide you with data? If you're trying to prosecute someone for murder, do you ask the defense to provide you with a cell-by-cell analysis of how the bullet passed through the victims body?

[c6gunner]

Yes, that's right, I only believe that there were no explosives because the government said so. And I also believe that there's no Santa Claus because that's what the government told me. You got me pegged exactly right! I get ALL my views from the government. Man, you must be pa-sychic or something! It's amazing how intelligent and awesome all of you 9/11 goofs are. You NEVER resort to logical fallacies, or make arguments based on foolish assumptions. You're my heroes!

[911reset]

@c6gunner

stfu, dumbass. if collapses were "normal and progressive" all i am asking is proof. a floor by floor analysis. because the speed of both of the collapses suggest explosives have been used. you say there were none. i say ok. now, provide a floor by floor analysis of those two collapses. because i see you refuse to provide scientific evidence which would prove that indeed no explosives have been used in any of the wtc towers on 9/11. that's it, dumbass. so, what will it be?

[shibby1007]

Go on , don't give up

[ConspiracyNut]

I'm another moron for 9/11 truth!

[arunsak]

The girl is cute.

[ConspiracyNut]

I agree she is. I did her up the ass.

[greywolf424]

Let me guess, no letter, no court date, no surpise

[grandmastershek]

canada is in on it too!

[greywolf424]

Plus A&E brag about 900+ blah blah blah as if it means something. Guess what, there are over 1.5 million engineers and 132,000 architects in the U.S. alone:

bls*gov/oco/ocos027.htm#emply

bls*gov/oco/ocos038.htm#emply

(replace? * with . )

So congratulations to them on getting less than 0.056% of them to sign the petition in over 8 years of course the list includes "engineers" that have nothing to do with buildings, unverifiable names, retirees and people from other countries.

[greywolf424]

The twoof movement hasn't accomplished anything in 8 years, and won't accomplish anything in the next 80.

Of course these comments are going to be deleted soon and I will most likely be blocked, twoofers are big on censorship and short on truth.

[MTL911Truth]

lmao no greywolf you won't be blocked you are so pathetic it's funny

[greywolf424]

No, what's funny is how you can't rebut a single comment I made.

[NRen2k5]

What's pathetic about bringing facts to the table and trying to get you to accept reality? Oh, right, he should know that it's an exercise in futility, right?

[grandmastershek]

its twoof! silence your critics! the irony is that what the truthers are really showing the world is their mentality of domination. their projection of what they think the NWO doing is just the appeal they have for control. if you dont agree with them then you will be sorry because you are part of the problem. they are filled with delusions of what they think justice and rationality are, yet none of them have actually bothered to find out what either really are.

[greywolf424]

What I find interesting is EVERYONE of the twoofer web site is begging for money. Richard Gage for one is making a good living off of the people who died on 9/11.

[grandmastershek]

anyone else shocked the twoofer is making baseless claims in tandem with irrelevant assumptions? im not.

seriously every time these idiot open their mouths or hold a rally they further show how dysfunctional they are. throwing shoes will change the world? ALL the widows and families? nothing like being a dishonest idiot for twoof. i love how these morons pretend getting 1% of NYC, allegedly, to sign their retarded petition is evidence of something.

[greywolf424]

"pretend getting 1% of NYC, allegedly, to sign their retarded petition is evidence of something. "

Actually it was 0.005% of the population of the city proper. The petition got throw out the first time because over half the names on it were fake, it was resubmitted and thrown out again, permanently this time as an irrelevant waste of time.

[grandmastershek]

are you really shocked? they constantly tout their list of ppl who go to A&E's as evidence of something. i wonder how thorough their background checking is. if it's like anything else they put together i would imagine it's about as trustworthy as...well, there really is no comparison.

[greywolf424]

"i wonder how thorough their background checking is. "

Not very, by my count 85% of the Architects and Engineers have not relevant education.

[grandmastershek]

heh even funnier is that A&E put up a piece admitting that the buildings and their collapses are outside of their expertise. i guess when someone realized that meant that no  one should bother entertaining their stupidity they had to change change. the screen grab is over on ae911truth[dot]info top ten boneheaded mistakes.

[NRen2k5]

Don't forget the ones that don't even exist.

[greywolf424]

What's pathetic is a twoof movement that doesn't have a single shred of scientifically verifiable or legally actionable evidence that would stand up in a court of law supporting their claims after over 8 years.

[911reset]

@greywolf424

i guess greywolf424 can then explain to everyone here how can 220 storeys of steel and concrete turn into dust in less than 45 seconds, which is at a rate of almost 6 floors per second. now, shhh and be wewy wewy quiet, greywolf424 is going to educate all of us here in a moment or two.

[greywolf424]

I got a better idea, why don't you explain to everyone why you don't have a single shred of scientifically verifiable or legally actionable evidence to support your inside job bullshit that would stand up in a court of law after more than eight years

[911reset]

@greywolf424

you have "all the leading experts on your side",

greywolf424, so please explain it (in detail) how can 220 storeys of steel and concrete turn into dust in less than 45 seconds. floor by floor. if you're too dumb to explain it yourself, you can ask some of those "leading experts",

greywolf424, to give you a hand. so, DO let me know when you have an explanation, dumbass.

[greywolf424]

Where did I say I am a structural engineer, exactly?

[911reset]

@greywolf424

youre too dumb to be an engineer, i am aware of that. so, go ahead and google it. find me an explanation as to how can 220 storeys of conrete and steel turn into dust in less than 45 seconds, without help from explosives. so, like, if you are "right", and all those "experts" are right, all you need to do, dumbass, is to c/p it here. floor by floor analysis of the collapses of wtc1 and wtc2. so, greywolf424, what seems to be the problem?

[greywolf424]

Maybe you and Ickle can get adjoining rooms in the mental hospital.

[911reset]

so, thats it?

[greywolf424]

You no planers and David Ickle supporting douchebags are a joke, that's all you deserve

[911reset]

@greywolf424

so, let me get this straight. you are "right" and i am "wrong", but you can prove me wrong so i am... "wrong"? wow, greywolf424. so smart you are. seriously.

[911reset]

so lets have it. i am wrong, so you prove me wrong. seriosuly.

[greywolf424]

@911reset

"so you prove me wrong. seriosuly. "

You don't have a single shred of scientifically verifiable or legally actionable evidence to support your inside job bullshit that would stand up in? a court of law after more than eight years

[911reset]

@greywolf424

you are the one being "right" here, dumbas, "not me". you are the one claiming that no explosives have been used. so, the burden of proof is on you. now, run and bring back a floor by floor analysis of both of the collapses.

for now, i will not claim that explosives have been used. let's see first what you have to prove, then we'll deal with the possibility of explosives being used. we're all ears, dumbas. hurry!

[greywolf424]

Wrong you laughable loser, you are the one sniveling about some vast conspiracy... PROVE IT

[911reset]

@greywolf424

what conspiracy? we are still dealing with the official explanation, which you defend here. understand? capisci? ok. lets move on. you are here defending the official story, dumbass, so the burden of proof is on you. give us a floor by floor analysis of the collapses of both wtc towers. if you fail to do so, you'll be perceived as a liar and a retard. if you are "right" and i am "wrong", why are you beating around the bush, retard? huh?

[greywolf424]

You're a fucking loser, no wonder your "movement" is such a fucking joke.

[greywolf424]

"you are here defending the official story, dumbass, so the burden of proof is on you"

WRONG FUCK HEAD, YOU CLAIM THE OFFICIAL STORY IS WRONG, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU...

"if you fail to do so, you'll be perceived as a liar and a retard."

THAT HAS TO BE THE SINGLE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE SEEN ANY TWOOFER LOSER WRITE.

[911reset]

@greywolf424

no, i am asking you to provide us with just a part of that official story: a floor by floor analysis of both of the collapses. that's all. we will leave conspiracies, explosives, lihop, mihop and other stuff for later on. AFTER you go home, find that analysis and c/p here the results of such a detailed, floor by floor analysis. if you have it, step forward. if not, shut the fuck up. capisci?

[greywolf424]

You think the official story is wrong, THEN BACK IT UP WITH PROOF OR SHUT THE FUCK UP. Asking for something that doesn't exist just proves how much of a fucking loser you are.

[911reset]

@greywolf424

leave what i think aside for a moment. dont worry what i think. your "side" was the first to come up with an explanation - structural collapse. and i want to see a floor by floor analysis. what is so fucking hard for you to understand, dumbass? huh? YOU are "right", so prove it! YOU came first with an "explanation", not "twoofers". so, EXPLAIN YOURSELF. dumbass! mmmkay?

[c6gunner]

Oh we understand what you want. That's what makes you so amusing - that you really think we give a fuck about the desires of some conspiracy twit.

It's real simple, bub: you can try to shift the burden on proof on the other side and make all the demands you want; just don't expect to be taken seriously. If you actually want to accomplish anything then you have to provide evidence to support your claims. Yelling about a "floor by floor analysis" is a great way of exposing your ignorance.

[greywolf424]

"Yelling about a "floor by floor analysis" is a great way of exposing your ignorance. "

Not to mention how pathetic and desperate he is. No wonder the twoof movement is dying out. It was comical when only 100 people showed up for the NYCCAN rally in a city of 16 million people, of course this was just before the NYCCAN petition got shit canned because over have the names on it were fake.

[c6gunner]

Well, yeah, it is pretty pathetic. It's as if the JFK conspiracy theorists were yelling "I WANT TO SEE A CELL-BY-CELL ANALYSIS OF HOW THE BULLET WENT THROUGH HIS BODY!". When you're asking for that level of detail, you've pretty much admitted that all of the evidence is firmly against you. One of these days someone is going to point him at the Purdue University computer simulation, and then he'll have to move on to asking for an atom-by-atom analysis of the WTC.

[greywolf424]

"i want to see a floor by floor analysis."

WELL GO AND FUCKING GET ONE THEN ASSHOLE

[greywolf424]

Or explain why only one demolitions expert on the fucking planet supports your bullshit movement.

[911reset]

@greywolf424

that means that all the leading demolition experts support YOU, fuckwit. so, i am asking you to explain it to me. so, explain it, greywolf424. why would that be such a problem for you, one might wonder, eh? but hey, i'll give a chance, greywolf424. so, explain.

[greywolf424]

But then again you're a supporter of David Ickle and the "no planers" so clearly you have an IQ of about 12 and belong in a mental hospital.

[Swazi4]

The dumb bitch needs to realize that she was told "go fuck yourself" because your group is run by some of the worst fear and hate mongering people on the continent.

Oh, and your theories are fucking retarded too.

[911reset]

@Swazi4

looks like brainwashing and retarded people are not only the trait of us. i see you have righturd, fascist, retarded and brainwashed morans in canada too, eh? swazi looks just like one of them. and boy oh boy is he genuinely retarded. "hate mongering people". such audacity, what a wanker omfg.

[grozlz]

falconApoda seems obsessed, don't you all think?

[Swazi4]

Lmao. It's hilarious that they actually think those papers are going to be sent anywhere.

9/11 Truthers are the warts on the planets ass next to the Holocaust Deniers, who some are the same people. Fucking disgusting people.

[falconApoda]

Singh is on-track. Most anti-Semites are 9/11 "truth" kooks, though not all "truth" kooks are anti-Semetic.

But there is a very strong argument that Bush would have by now been impeached and the war ended if not for the 9/11 "truth" movement.

[911reset]

@falconApoda

bob, bob graham, is that you? naaah, dick cheney? is that you? or is this that general that said, iirc, that the fact that whole of us defense was caught with their pants off on 9/11 actually "helped them to respond better in the future"?

or are you another nutcase who blames 9/11 truthers for bush not being impeached. lunatic you are. either way.

[c6gunner]

lol. I'd LOVE to hear that argument. I agree with your assessment of the 9/11 goof movement, but if you think that there was even a remote possibility of Bush being impeached - or that if he HAD been impeached it would have magically ended the war(s) - you're deluding yourself.

[911reset]

@c6gunner

well, sorry to burst your bubble but bush got away with it all thanks to people like you, my friend, and like this swazi4 retard too. thanks, guise! you can now roll over and continue sleeping, believing that people like dick cheney really and genuinely give a flying fuck about you, your life, the lives of your family etc etc and you can continue dreaming how "they would not do such a terrible thing". aaand then watch live tv footage from 9/11. maybe it dawns on you, who knows!?

[c6gunner]

Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but you need medication, my friend.

[falconApoda]

"..that argument..."

It's more of a general obsrervation. In the days following 9/11, there was the question floating in the air, "What did he know, and when did he know it", which referred to the intelligence failures that allowed the attacks to succeed. Had this line of questioning continued along course, it is enirely possible that Bush and others would have been held to account. Alas, such momentum was forever lost when the kooks were allowed into the wheelhouse. Ship sinks. Bush skates.

[c6gunner]

I get ya. It's a decent point, but it's extremely unlikely that anything would have come of it. The security failures which allowed 9/11 to happen were systemic. They existed for decades before Bush took office. Even if he had been the greatest man ever to be POTUS, he would probably have been unable to fix them in time. I don't hold him personally responsible but, even if it were reasonable to do so, I'd still say the odds of him being impeached would have been close to zero.

[911reset]

@c6gunner

another rightwing fascist is displaying his understanding for all the good work cheney did in the last 8 years. are you a cop or a military retard maybe?

[c6gunner]

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

[911reset]

@c6gunner

nope, but you obviously were.

[c6gunner]

Ohhh! The famous "I know you are, but what am I" response! Well done sir! You cunning wit has left me speechless!

[911reset]

@c6gunner

then let's move on. explain (in detail, floor by floor) how can 220 storeys of steel and concrete turn into dust in less than 45 seconds, which is at a rate of almost 6 floors per second. i guess you shouldn't have too much difficulty there, right c6gunner? btw, are you a cop or do you work for the military maybe? im just asking. away you go!

[c6gunner]

No, dumbass, that's not the way it works. You're making the claim that it can't happen, ergo the onus is on you to provide the evidence - something which your "movement" has repeatedly failed at over the last 8 years.

As if that weren't bad enough, though, we actually HAVE had detailed studies carried out by multiple scientific institutions as well as by investigative reporters. Not only have you twits failed to provide evidence, but you've refuse to acknowledge the contravening evidence.

[911reset]

@c6gunner

then come forward with a floor by floor analysis of both of the collapses, dumbass. if you don't have it, shut the fuck up. if you indeed do, step forward and present it. what will it be, dumbass?

[c6gunner]

What part of "you have the burden of proof" did you not understand? Even if I were able to summarize a 10,000 page report in a 500 character YouTube post, I wouldn't do it because I have no interest in humoring lunatics who haven't even bothered to do the basic amount of work required to be taken seriously. If some idiot made the claim that the Sun can't possibly rise in the east and set in the west, he'd be expected to support that claim. Same goes for you - put up, or shut up.

[greywolf424]

Hey gunner, this asshole is a fan of David Ickle and a no-planner, therefore it is safe to say he has some serious mental health issues.

[c6gunner]

Yeah, I know. The majority of the vocal truthers are mentally unstable. I speak to them not out of any delusion that I may be able to change their minds, but in the hope of influencing the silent majority who are capable of rational thought but may otherwise be swayed by the mountain of feces which the twoofers keep dropping on them.

With that said, I have occasionally had the unexpected pleasure of assisting with the conversion of more vocal conspiracy theorists. It's rare, but it does happen.

[911reset]

@

greywolf424

the burden of proof (floor by floor analysis) is on you, dumbass. and c6gunner. not me. so, say again, dumbass?

[greywolf424]

YOU ARE THE ONE CLAIMING THE NIST REPORT IS WRONG... THEREFORE THE ONUS IS ON YOU TO PROVE IT.

Stupid mother fucker.

[grandmastershek]

$50 says 1/2 the ppl in this thread don't know what impeach actually means.

[greywolf424]

You can't impeach someone who isn't in office dumb ass..... where is my $50

[greywolf424]

Just kidding grandmastershek

[falconApoda]

Morons, all.

[c6gunner]

Wow, is that ever embarrassing. Almost makes me ashamed to be Canadian. I mean, I know that we've got our share of mentally ill people ... it's just that they don't normally parade in public, or post videos online. Can't you guys keep it on the down-low? If you keep this up you're going to ruin our tourism industry.

[NRen2k5]

Well what can I say - I guess now you guys know what it feels like when YOU'RE the the target of lies and contempt. Hopefully that'll help you "research" and make you rethink some of the crap you publish.

[911TruthPusher]

very well done guys, keep up the good work.

5*

[UNIVERSITYHI]

Sounds like this Jaggi Singh guy might be an Agent Provocateur of some kind working the old "limited hangout" angle.

[sanluisskywatch]

YOU ROCK!!!

Thanks for jumping through all the hoops to get that submitted.. they don't make it easy.

[LawrenciumTradera]

That girl has some huge guts.

BIG kiss from Sweden ;).

[poprip]

Bravo mes amis!

Vous me rendez fier de vivre ici!

Keep up the good work!

[campaign4liberty]

George doing hard time in freezing northern Canada!

That is all I want as a Christmas gift*))

Thanks so much for this vid I posted it on dailypaul(dot)com where rEVOLution has home!

[MTL911Truth]

lol thanks C4L I am a huge fan of you guys as well

[rfalfonse]

Good going guys. It's not going anywhere but you might as well expose our criminal justice system for the fraud that it is. The system's not meant for the people at the upper levels of society. It's meant for us. They get to torture, maim, murder, sicken and swindle whomever they want, whenever they want, while we get the book slammed at us for offences only a fraction as severe as theirs.

Welcome to (the illusion of ) Democracy.

[MTL911Truth]

hopefully if we expose the democracy as an illusion we have a chance at making a real democracy

[rfalfonse]

Yes, that's the real value of what you folks are doing here. People need to see the hypocritical double standard that underpins our justice system.

I applaud you for this and everything else you do.

I'm looking forward to your updates :)

[grandmastershek]

LOLZ! yeah real democracies they work real well. mob rule everyone!

[BarbarianRebellion]

Nice job Sam.

[Ultrasteve1969]

Nice work guys! Keep it up!

PEACE : )