Buying power of his (India) country. FUCK YOUR COUNTRY. WHAT ABOUT MY COUNTRY???? I'm a black American republican. And I don't care about India. I care about me....so fuck your country!!!!
A challenging economy is making it even more difficult.
One thing I see is that one more component that is changing, is flexibility. Have you looked at markets across the nation? There are always areas where there are shortages of skills.
What job should we train ourselves for is right! With one bachelors in Biology under my belt, I retrained to become a baccalaureate level nurse and graduated with honors in May 2010. It is now October and I have been unable to find a job as a new grad nurse. This because facilities do not wish to pay to train, which cost is significant apparently. Facilities all clamor for you once you have one year experience, i.e. someone else has paid to train you. So train for what now? Waste management?
As companies look to be more competitive globally, they look for ways to access new markets and also to reduce costs. So, commodity work typically migrates to lower cost locations. So, there is a movement of jobs from developed nations such as the USA to india, Mexico and China.
For the USA economy to thrive, it needs to create jobs in new sectors and help the workers that have lost jobs in the other sectors to find jobs in these new sectors. That requires "RETRAINING"!!!
No, you are dead wrong! It has nothing do with being "competitive", and everything to do with labor arbitrage. Until so many companies began offshoring, was it then that it became competitive, but then, it had absolutely nothing to do with the skills of American workers, as it still has to do with cheap foreign labor. When you talk about creating jobs in "new sectors", specifically what are they? Nearly every industry is outsourcing, and at nearly all levels!
"Retraining" my ass! You must have missed the part where I pointed out that numerous Indians comes to the U.S. to get their education in AMERICAN universities -- the SAME as U.S. citizens! Offshore / Onshore workers are receiving the jobs that Americans were ALREADY trained to do, while foreign workers come and U.S. workers are training THEM as their replacements. You obviously are absent of the facts, or you just choose to futily ignore them!!
Also, when you say that "retraining is not just about university degrees", I agree with you. However, your premise leading to that is incorrect. Besides, if you can finally concede that this is NOT about Americans missing education, and are now stating that it is about workforce training, then even by your own arguments, you are in an indefensible position, because when American jobs are given to visa workers and foreign workers abroad, you eliminate ANY opportunites for Americans.
U.S. jobs should go to Americans first, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that! Other countries around the world protect jobs for their citizens (just like India), and rightfully so! This isn't just for auto jobs, but for ALL career sectors.
Atul, I don't mean to be so hard on you even though you are trying to ignore the facts about outsourcing. As far as companies doing more about helping the American workers prepare for new jobs, but U.S. companies do not care about American workers. They are too shortsighted about the complex and widespread problems that outsourcing creates because they are too intoxicated over the significant (albeit short term) cost reduction by labor arbitrage and it is not going to change without new laws.
It is ironic that Atul is shoveling the same corporate bull by suggesting that the U.S. workforce needs to be "retrained", and that more education and talent is found in the U.S., while the most educated Indians are actually getting degrees in U.S. UNIVERSITIES -- same as Americans!
Education is a key component to long term success. Retraining is not just about university degrees. It is also about moving sectors. It is becoming obvious that we have lost a large number of jobs in the auto industry. What would you say to the laid off auto worker? They need to be retrained to find opportunities in other sectors. We need to provide them opportunities.
Notice that Atul had NO REAL ANSWERS! Of course, not! The American middle class in the workforce did not become dumb all of a sudden. I have been asking the same question as Lou: What are Americans to train in??! Jobs from ALL sectors are no being lost overseas via wholesale labor arbitrage! Indians will work for peasant wages. Even Bill Gates finally admits it!!! Check out reuters (DOT COM)/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56N2RI20090724 and read for yourself!
do what you want , when you want , how you want !!! but when there's no jobs , there will be no money !!! no government , no taxes , no work , no food , and no where to stand in soup line. O the good life here we come...lol
Buying power of his (India) country. FUCK YOUR COUNTRY. WHAT ABOUT MY COUNTRY???? I'm a black American republican. And I don't care about India. I care about me....so fuck your country!!!!
dinkidow 2 months ago
A challenging economy is making it even more difficult.
One thing I see is that one more component that is changing, is flexibility. Have you looked at markets across the nation? There are always areas where there are shortages of skills.
avashistha 1 year ago
What job should we train ourselves for is right! With one bachelors in Biology under my belt, I retrained to become a baccalaureate level nurse and graduated with honors in May 2010. It is now October and I have been unable to find a job as a new grad nurse. This because facilities do not wish to pay to train, which cost is significant apparently. Facilities all clamor for you once you have one year experience, i.e. someone else has paid to train you. So train for what now? Waste management?
Tankweti 1 year ago
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sensaugata 2 years ago
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sensaugata 2 years ago
As companies look to be more competitive globally, they look for ways to access new markets and also to reduce costs. So, commodity work typically migrates to lower cost locations. So, there is a movement of jobs from developed nations such as the USA to india, Mexico and China.
For the USA economy to thrive, it needs to create jobs in new sectors and help the workers that have lost jobs in the other sectors to find jobs in these new sectors. That requires "RETRAINING"!!!
avashistha 2 years ago
No, you are dead wrong! It has nothing do with being "competitive", and everything to do with labor arbitrage. Until so many companies began offshoring, was it then that it became competitive, but then, it had absolutely nothing to do with the skills of American workers, as it still has to do with cheap foreign labor. When you talk about creating jobs in "new sectors", specifically what are they? Nearly every industry is outsourcing, and at nearly all levels!
PE425 2 years ago
"Retraining" my ass! You must have missed the part where I pointed out that numerous Indians comes to the U.S. to get their education in AMERICAN universities -- the SAME as U.S. citizens! Offshore / Onshore workers are receiving the jobs that Americans were ALREADY trained to do, while foreign workers come and U.S. workers are training THEM as their replacements. You obviously are absent of the facts, or you just choose to futily ignore them!!
PE425 2 years ago
Also, when you say that "retraining is not just about university degrees", I agree with you. However, your premise leading to that is incorrect. Besides, if you can finally concede that this is NOT about Americans missing education, and are now stating that it is about workforce training, then even by your own arguments, you are in an indefensible position, because when American jobs are given to visa workers and foreign workers abroad, you eliminate ANY opportunites for Americans.
PE425 2 years ago
U.S. jobs should go to Americans first, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that! Other countries around the world protect jobs for their citizens (just like India), and rightfully so! This isn't just for auto jobs, but for ALL career sectors.
PE425 2 years ago
Atul, I don't mean to be so hard on you even though you are trying to ignore the facts about outsourcing. As far as companies doing more about helping the American workers prepare for new jobs, but U.S. companies do not care about American workers. They are too shortsighted about the complex and widespread problems that outsourcing creates because they are too intoxicated over the significant (albeit short term) cost reduction by labor arbitrage and it is not going to change without new laws.
PE425 2 years ago
It is ironic that Atul is shoveling the same corporate bull by suggesting that the U.S. workforce needs to be "retrained", and that more education and talent is found in the U.S., while the most educated Indians are actually getting degrees in U.S. UNIVERSITIES -- same as Americans!
PE425 2 years ago
Education is a key component to long term success. Retraining is not just about university degrees. It is also about moving sectors. It is becoming obvious that we have lost a large number of jobs in the auto industry. What would you say to the laid off auto worker? They need to be retrained to find opportunities in other sectors. We need to provide them opportunities.
avashistha 2 years ago
Notice that Atul had NO REAL ANSWERS! Of course, not! The American middle class in the workforce did not become dumb all of a sudden. I have been asking the same question as Lou: What are Americans to train in??! Jobs from ALL sectors are no being lost overseas via wholesale labor arbitrage! Indians will work for peasant wages. Even Bill Gates finally admits it!!! Check out reuters (DOT COM)/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56N2RI20090724 and read for yourself!
PE425 2 years ago
do what you want , when you want , how you want !!! but when there's no jobs , there will be no money !!! no government , no taxes , no work , no food , and no where to stand in soup line. O the good life here we come...lol
AngelAsmodeus 2 years ago