Stuffable Sleeping Bag Evaluation - Urban Survival

[rubbernecker13]

US army sleeping bags come with an outer gortex shell. I'm sure you know gortex sheds water and wind but breathes all the moisture out. Maybe you can make one with a cozy flannel inner and gortex outer stuffable one or something someday. I wonder also if you could make it a modular ghillie suit/sleeping bag type thing if you needed to avoid zombies or looters or something and be able to get up and flee or fight if found.

[envirosponsible]

@rubbernecker13 Wow, slow down! I can't write this down fast enough. Those are awesome ideas bro. You just blew my mind. What else is in that brain of yours?

[rubbernecker13]

@envirosponsible Your stuffable idea is awesome, good thinking. Carrying a bunch of insulation is a pain in many situations. Two real situations came to mind thinking about it later. Your sleeping bag would be sweet for backpacking. Also, I may have to make some sort of ghillie suit bag this next fall if neighbors loot my garden. I've often been robbed blind in the past but am in a new location so we'll see. Hopefully they put the fear in their children too so I don't have to. Thanks for ideas.

[CdnLifeguard71]

Interesting concept. Are you going to test it with different materials for the stuffing? ie. cardboard like you mentioned. Not an expedient shelter, nothing quick about it but cool none the less.

Nate

[envirosponsible]

@CdnLifeguard71 I used a tarp for insulating material on my torso during this video and it worked really well. I'd like to try paper or cardboard but don't know when I'll be able to. Later Nate.

[skecanj]

Btw, even wet leaves have an insulating effect. Anything that gives dead air space - wet or dry - will insulate you. Of course, dry is preferred, but wet will work.

[skecanj]

Portable, would drastically cut down on debris hut-making time if you're on the move in a SHTF situation. I know with a debris hut you lose a lot of heat if you have no door, so you're right in wanting a hood or something for greater warmth.

I can relate to the calming effect... kind of womb-like, sleeping in leaves. Insulates you from noise, too.

[DOSphantom]

Well for colder you could always cover some of it in dirt of whatever partially, or make a shelter, maybe use an emergency blanket and small fire to get some radiant heat going, no reason you couldn't wrap a blanket around you before you slide in.

[woodsinme]

There are videos on here of some innovative shelters. The idea of a bag is pretty cool but it has a couple of wrinkles. I do like the concept. Given if you could put that stuffed bag in a crevice that was already reasonably dry it would be awesome. As long as you can find something to stuff it with. You would be looking for sheltered places. Looking at approaches,water and raw materials. Thanks for posting! I know it takes time and I appreciate it. I am a youtube slacker. I have one vid up.

[phrankus2009]

Right now? my ultra-lite Sleep/Shelter id a USGI bivy and both weights of Adventure Medical bivys and a compact fleece liner. TYVEK (HomeWrap) might be a good material for a stuff-system (waterpruf, durable, cheap). Maybe even a "co-axial" dual Tyvek envelope using four sewn tabs, between the larger outer-layer, and the smaller, inner-envelope. (fold & roll it). Using ~4" connective tabs would allow the litter to fully fill the trans-layer envelope. Great idea, Like Dave's Debris Burrito.

[yenrhen]

The key problem is the lack of being water repellent or waterproof so the bag is not windproof. Although the leaves do provide some insulation and dead air a breeze or damp day will rob you of heat. Great concept but needs some reworking.

[envirosponsible]

@yenrhen Debris huts are made entirely of leaves and they're waterproof if built thick enough. Also, just like any sleeping bag I would have it covered from the elements with a tarp or something similar.

[bucki58]

I have horrible allergies....I would have to search for something non-organic. Cool idea!

[AReptileMan]

I would hate to hear that all night.

[BushcraftOnFire]

Excellent and fair evaluation Bro! Well done. I like the idea of the bag.. You have an inner and outer bag... Is that correct? How much does the entire setup weigh? GREAT video!

[envirosponsible]

@BushcraftOnFire Thanks BCOF. It has an upper and lower bag so to speak, and there's a spot between them that I slide into. I haven't weighed it yet. It's still stuffed so I can try it on a really cold night, like under -10 c. Excellent channel by the way. I'm a sub.

[kidenu]

I like the idea, truly I do. Lets see it in a true survival scenario. In an urban survival situation you really have to stay hidden. You won't be out picking leaves unless you joined a gang of looters. If backpacking, can you do 15-20 miles a day with a 25 kg pack then have enough time to search for leaves? Those leaves will be wet and rotting most likely. How long would it take to stuff this bag without a rake? In the warmer months those leaves will be filled with ticks and other insects.

[blkwulff]

Cool idea but buy a real mummy bag

[Sk8RJOSH94]

that thing looks like a giant poo

[vbpics]

great idea and proof of concept. when can I buy one? :D

[snaponjohn100]

Great idea man. God bless. Jojn

[stothesk8er]

sweet! very cool idea! props for testing it in the cold! :D

[ripmtb]

very nice



[pkbjorn35]

How about tics? :-)

[seanmulhall]

An excellent creation. Im sold on the idea.

[NewbieCamper]

Good stuff! Kudos for doing the weather test … and glad you slept warm ;-).

[zhaneranger]

It would be cool to see you test it with other types of stuffing as well to see which do well and which do not as well.

[McHenryAnge]

That's cool that it worked. One of the first shelters I learned in Scouts was just to pile up a rat's nest of leaves and wiggle in like a worm with a blanket wrap. Not great all the time, especially when the bugs are out but it worked okay.

This is much better. MUCH better.

Where did you find the parachute material?

Maybe I'm too cheap but what I'm finding is a bit too pricey for what it is to me.

If the jumpers are done with it it's a rag.

[maxinpains]

@McHenryAnge

That's Right !  LOL Be Prepared!! ;)

[cdltpx]

Sorry the name of the video is compost shower. You would probably appreciate a methane digester those things can produce methane that can be burned to cook with. I am not sure if it is enough gas to warm your home but I bet it would be enough to warm a well insulated small room? This was a real good teat though that was indeed colder than I perfer to try to sleep in. It gets below 65 I have my electric blanket on 4.

[cdltpx]

Reason you didn't feel the humudity is the leaves are natural absorbers of moisture they draw your moisture away from your body keeping you dry. So it seems leaves are a great insulator. Only problem is leaves are not readily avaliable year around. Another thing is when you place biomass in a bag like this and the boimass absorbs the moisture I am sure that the material is beginning to break down and this proces creates warmth. Look 4 yt video biomass shower? Pleas give feedback right here?

[cdltpx]

Thank you for giving this a shot and documenting this. It proves you really dont need a stack of cash to survive in this world and that shelter can come in the form of a long bag filled with leaves? You could have used other material too for instance 4mil plastic is readily avaliable use that with side pieces of water resistant breathable fabric the filler should cause a dome to sheet water and the sides would allow moisture to escape. Ron Paul 2012.

[victorkyoshi]

great idea. it must fold up to a tiny package. you have to try with wet leaves. i saw this video and then stepped outside of my house and it is raining here, so it got me to thinking if it would work with wet leaves. also if you can try with pine needles since they are always available, even in winter. incredible idea though.

[goldenscales]

"Well done, brother! Honestly, rather you than me! lol! But full points for giving it a go.

[kodakZX1]

Celsius

[cabochard76]

:) !

[oregonmikes]

I like the idea.