You are the one with the 'ideology;' one of 'political correctness,' one of 'if it feels right, it is right.' People are already free to commit any kind of new imaginative fornication that they want, so what's the problem for you? Why are you so hell bent in trying to get the church's blessing for this? With your attack on Fr. John, it seems you're trying to corral church teachings into the pen of 'hate speech.'
Fr. We all suffer yes ? Weather physical or emotional or spritual trials. But thoughts in my mind about my sexuality ? Where do those thoughts come from ? Your speaking about people with physical trials isn't that a podvig. And don't we all carry/live our podvig ?
@Ettoredipugnar If you are suffering and you choose not to do something abiout it, that is your business. If someone else is suffering, who are you to bully them into not doing something about it?
People have always complained about having traits of the opposite sex. They do their best to correct it, not change their sex. What a strange crusade you are on, especially in this day and age when the world is falling apart. What is wrong with you? You're treating everyone like 'garbage,' people who 'need' to have their genders changed and trashing everyone else. You may be a monk, but it seems you've given up the struggle.
@marykfilms You are epressing the very ignorance and cold heartedness that makes the world full of suffering. These people are not changing their sex, but only bringing their bodies into conformity with their actual gender. You have no idea at all what you are saying, but are only repeating the mantra of an ignorant and uncaring ideology.
I would think that a person who belived that they were a woman when they were a man has a demon. Eg Chasity Bono. She deformed her her body by having her breasts removed. Aren't our bodies a temple of the Holy Sprit ?
@Ettoredipugnar You think wrong. The body may be a temple, but the brain is not some kind of garbage. The manner in which the brain and the body become two different genders in the foetus is not even a mystery. It is well know how it happens. A person is not what the body is, but what the brain is. The body is a "system." It cannot think, have awareness or define itself. Only the brain can do that, and one's fender is that of the brain. Often these people have "micro penisis" and sometimes both
@Ettoredipugnar that and a vagina. Sometimes, they will have a vagina AND male testicles (undesended, but still functioning) You are very, very wrong, and it is our job to put a stop to the cruelty and destruction that ignorance causes.
Note Fr John Whitford: You hate this video, but then you hate practically every thing. Hate is your middle name, and you will waste great energy on it right up to the end of your life; but you will die like everyone else. Only your will draw your last breath with the venom and malice that has characterised you whole life.
@peaceandparty: You mentioned studies of fish in rivers. Interestingly, psychiatric drugs may be partly to blame; see ww w denverpost. com/ci_16037537 (with spaces removed).
@matthew1796 Runoff from cattle pens and hog farm enclosures also carries masses of antibiotics and steroids into the ground water. We know that farmers not only use too many antibio. but that they also overdose their animals on them. The urine from the animals is potent and helps create antibi.resistant microorganisms., etc.
always encouraging to see wise people like this. I got extreamly discouraged when or country voted stephen harper, but seeing people like this remind me that our country isnt full of idiots.
@MsKamododragon Some people have mentioned it. I fear that those of us who are "outside" the issue have not heard enough about this, and we need to be better informed. I will look into this more deeply, and thank you for inviting our attention to this, as others have. I am mainly interested in stopping the persecution and bullying that often faces people with gender variations.
@allsaintsmonastery The reason why their is a feud between Intersex and trans is because alot of Trans have tried to claim and pretend to be intersex without the diagnosing or testing. Some Even think that they can pass themselves off as being intersex. Some even have claimed to and use the so-called intersex brain theory, but no intersex group accepts it. Which is why it pisses off intersex people when they see transgender people claiming and pretending to be one.
People who make use of the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to promote intolerance, hate, malice, or to promote prejudices, ignorance, the dehumanisation of other human beings, or to strip people of their personhood are blaspheming the name and the sacrifice of Christ. We are called upon to strive toward spiritual perfection, not to bully others, to heal others through co-suffering love, not pejorative and accusations, to first become an example, and then to speak with humility and love to all.
@allsaintsmonastery I have criticized the presentation of this issue; however, I have never endorsed Rick Perry, Michale Batman, or any of those types. YOu are mixing apples with oranges by trying to associate your opponents with other people, and thus obfuscating the issue. So, to say that anyone who attacked your point of view and endorses the church's position as evil, would be the equivalent of me saying you are evil because you may support pro-choice candidates
@TheFraugustine431 The Orthodox Church has NO position on Transgender, NONE. Transgender has nothing to do with homosexuality. Show me one canon, one pronouncement, one verse of Scripture that says anything even remotely relating to Transgender. There is nothing, so you cannot say that the Church has any position on this matter. But even to suggest that it is related to homosexuality is evil and ignorant.
@allsaintsmonastery It is evil and ignorant to call other people evil and ignorant to disagree with you. Where did I say that transgender had anything necessarily to do with homosexuality? Where? I have not said that? First you assume things about the political positions of your opponents, things not true, and then you make assumptions about what they are comparing the matter at hand to? This is purely distraction in the form of argumentation.
@TheFraugustine431 It you are a TeaPartyite, then your movement does endorse these people, and has made it public. It does happen that some TeaPartyests have the good sense to endorse Ron Paul.
@allsaintsmonastery I agree; you can really see the issues that the media and establishment are angry about, if someone is anti-imperialist and anti-banker control, and actually will act on this, then they are not liked by the imperialist/bankers class that runs things.
@allsaintsmonastery Secondarily, by trying to insinuate your own political philosophy into a subject matter, adn then attack others as holding something that is contrary to your political philosophy, when in fact they don't, and thus painting all your opponents evil, is itself an example of being an 'ideologue'. How many have accused the Orthodox of being blind because we refuse to consider 'new evidence' against the Resurrection, etc? It is one thing to state the church's
@TheFraugustine431 teaching, but, it is another thing to say that fallen man's physical condition, and his 'feelings' and 'desires' in such a condition can be necessarily accepted. If someone has some serious medical disorder, then it can be dealt with, and the gender they are genetically should be their gender...Again, how are people like me are who are anti-war and anti-imperialist, but, disagree with you evil b/c we have had differen experiences? You put yourself on a
@TheFraugustine431 It is evil first of all to suggest that Intersex/Trans people are homosexual, and secondly to suggest that there is a "cure" for it. If we could manipulate epigenetics, we would already have a cure for cancer.
@TheFraugustine431 Now you are the one into apples and oranges. The matter is simply this: Intersex and Transgendered people are NOT homosexual, and the Church has not position whatsoever about them. The are often persecuted, sometime mercilessly, and bullied into suicide. I want to see that stopped, and I hope that Christians, who are the real root of the problem in N. America, will behave more like Christians and stop this wicked behaviour and slander.
@allsaintsmonastery Where have I don this? I have simply stated that people who have legit physical deformation as a result of problems in utero, or even geneitc issues, deserve to be treated the same as people who have an extra finger at birth, or a third arm, etc. If the issue needs correcting through surgery, and it is legit, as opposed to someone who has a psychological issue, then I have no problem. However, you must understand, that there are people who don't have
@allsaintsmonastery real medical issues surrounding a warped physiology, but, instead, 'feel' like they should be a 'man/woman,and then have surgery for this reason; such as Chaz/Chastity Bono. Again,I have no problem with a person who has major physical deformities having surgeries to do the appropriate thing. I assume you wouldn't consider her case to be a correct case; but, they are the prominent ones, and the ones everyone assumed to be the poster for operations.
Remember years ago, the late Bishop Anthony of CA was at our church and taking about some news writer who had said we should take all the gays and throw them into the Bay Area Bay. Someone in church "yelled" out "yes!" Bishop Tony stopped and said "who said that, who said that?!" When he found the guy, he ripped him a new one, in front of 400 people. Needs to be done, sometimes
@allsaintsmonastery Right, the late Bishop was correct to rip into him. Too bad most Zionist "christians" don't know murder in the "heart" is no different then the physical act, as far as the Lord is concerned.
Your eminence I applaud you for standing up for these people who are treated like society's lepers. I have found your point of views refreshing and well stated on everything I have heard you say thus far in Orthodoxy. Christ taught us to love our neighbor not just the desirable. It was Zacheus the taxman that Jesus dined with not the rich men. I have had friends who are trans in one way or another. From one Orthodox to another I say thanks. God bless you and your monastery for your work.
we think youtube is big but actually its a bunch of small groups within a larger community
this video talks about intersex
i was actually the first person to speak about intersex on youtube and to talk with transsexuals about intersex
ask around. i amquite proud of that i have to say
and i am very very happy to stumble across this video of a religious person caring about what so many religious people dont do----delving into the misunderstood fractions of society and handling them human to human
@peaceandparty I cannot abide to see the suffering caused by misunderstanding and sometimes just wilful ignorance. TG and Intersex people are often persecuted severly, and often enough by religious people who have ideologies by no knowledge or understanding, and they do not want knowledge or understanding. Some of them are patently stupid, and would drive a young TG or IS person suicide and be happy that they had killed themselves.
@TheOrthodoxSteven But like many ignorant "svyatoshi" you are consumed with sexual fantasies that keep you from having any truthful and compassionate understanding of the human condition. To call you ignorant would be to give you too much credit.
@TheOrthodoxSteven You are way off base, Styopa. Like others in ROCOR, you have boiled your soul in bitterness, and so overwhelmed by your own hatred and malice that you cannot possibly have any relationship with Christ. You would visit infinite and unneccesary suffering on people merely to feed your own ego and ideologies. Transgender has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality, and it is not about "sex."
@XXYSexChromosomes XXY: I am going to close you off, because you are using my site to attack other viewers. I have thanked you for your input, and for enlightening me about several things, and I really do appreciate it, but I am not able to allow you to attack other viewers who are also sharing their veiws.
we,the intersex people of youtube, have been dealing with this menace for years now. i have ignored all his recent comments sent to me recently. i am finally at a stage of wanting to ignore him rather than having to ignore him!
i have YOUR back regarding this menace but sadly cant get too involved because its damaging for my health!
you seem like a level headed person. i am glad to make your virtual aqquaintance!
I would also like to make you and others aware that most people who are intersex affected do not approve of being labelled as being TG or TS. Hell our community is so bad were currently caught up within an internal war over the DsD, IS, or Hermaphroditic terminology for appropriate usage.
self acceptance and societies misunderstanding of INTERSEX people
why?... because supposedly many people will see INTERSEX "normal" people as abnormal when in fact we are like most people-each with our own issues,in house attacks are another.i mean kailana today i had you know who respond to me on this video,i have ignored their comment(not read-due to their stalker mentality)
@peaceandparty Self-acceptance is so important. We are trying as well as we can to make others become more realistic and accepting. TG people who are undergoing the transition also need support, and they need to be reassured that they must look after their own well-being and ignore those who dissaprove.
i have mixed views on transsexuality. on the one hand.people are entitled to do anything with their bodies in this modern world with the medical advancements of being able to change their bodies. i personally think it would be great if societies could change their minds regarding gender and sexes. i like the notion that God created us each as equal and as different and that changing ones body is going against Gods will. though i did get breast tissue removed&i take T. so...!
@peaceandparty Not changing one's body to match one's brain gender is more likely to be going against God's will. Do you really believe that it is God's will for people two be born with a body gender that differs from their brain gender? What a horrible creature God would be if that was the case. That would also mean that God makes some people Down's Syndrome and wilfully causes siamese twins. Why would He do that, just for laughs???
maybe say that in another way because the reply has me confused with what you are saying. basically there are more than two genders and certainly more than just males and females..there is a lot of grey areas that rarely are being highlighted. god does not create things to laugh at them. god has created difference so we all learn from each other. people with syndromes that are seen as handicaps are not completely handicapped. we all have our talents.god is good/ppl need help
@allsaintsmonastery perhaps too teach compassion, perhaps to allow some who truely love and cherish their children for the way they regardless of the way they are; so that others who haven't yet learned what it means to love and accept people for who they are perhaps just because as always we are meant to strive and try to be better to show our own love for all those around us. Who knows, maybe just maybe because we are all supposed to be different from one another .
@mishakailana Thank you for the information. It is positive that inform us about such matters. I will make the distinction in future, and I do apologise for the error.
mishakailana is not a total expert but is very well informed,and we both know you made some errors in your video but you did the video with good intentions and for that i think i can speak for kailana,we thank you for making a step in the right direction.
dont apologise ,your video is far better than many videos online!
again thanks and i personally look forward to more dialogue with you!
my latest vid is about GOD ALLAH and religion-dont be put off...lol
@allsaintsmonastery no worries, I understand the intent of your support video, just thought It appropriate to mention that though there are many similarities for some people who are IS and some that are TG or TS, that our experiences can be a great deal different, occasionally similar at times even though some within the IS community fear to acknowledge those similarities.
Justed wanted to say that I thought your video was very supportive even though some of the definitions descriptions were a little off. Not wrong but well there is a great deal of variation amongst conditions so not all people affected by the condition is exactly like everyone else with the same condition.
@mishakailana The primary aim is to be supportive, and to try to get others to be more understanding of the realities, and more supportive. I aplogise for anything that might have been offensive to any of you (I do not apologise for offending any bigots, bullies or superstitious clergy).
@TheOrthodoxSteven What blasphemy? Exactly how was he outside of the Church in his teaching? He is mainly condemning the cruelty, hate, viciousness, and malice spewed by people towards those who are transgender, so far to the point where it has led some transgendered people to suicide. In some cases, transgendered people are murdered by the people who hate them. If you think it is okay to spew bitterness, hatred, and malice at people then you haven't understood a thing that Christ taught.
thank you for explaining klinefelters syndrome in that way but if you are basing that on adele and the video on 80% girl 20% boy-not all xxys feel this way(or lets say it this way-admit it) i am xxy and i know i am neither male or female and i believe most humans have a mixture of the sexes,including yourself. its nice to hear a respectful and calm voice speaking about these issues. intersex has been swept under the carpet for too long! xxys are not "male" thats for starters!good words!thanks ;)
@peaceandparty Thank you for your input. I do appreciate the help and the better understanding that some of you are sharing with me. My intent is to be as supportive as I can, and to encourage others to be more supportive, less judgmental.
@peaceandparty you know I never did quite understand the 80% Girl-20% Boy ratios. Seriously I mean for anyone counting chromosomes for XXY's I would of expected a 66 2/3 F and 33 1/2 M but thats just counted the 23rd chromosomal pair. So I was kind of thinking maybe it was just Adele's perception of being mostly female and part male or something. Still was very interesting vid
Someone asked me about the video response of Fr. John in Texas. The inquirer said he thought that Fr. John was simply ignorant. To say that this Fr John is ignorant is to give him too much credit. If he rose to the level of ignorant, it would be a great improvement.
I know what trisomy 21 is. I know what it feels like to be judged. I know what you are speaking of. These things can be blessings if you address them properly. I don't believe it is our (man's) place to pass judgement, we all fall short of perfection.
@SheIsRisin My whole point, the errors pointed out by some kind viewers nothwithstanding, is that alot of energy is exhausted on ignorant hate and persecution that could better be spent on saying one's prayers and struggling with one's own sins, and the great societal sins against our biosphere.
@XXYforLIFE You and iI have discussed this already, and I have thanked you for the information you have offered. You do not need to keep defending yourself now. It may be true that my research assistant followed hearsay or anecdotes in collecting the information, but no one is accusing you of anything, so there is little need for you to go on defending yourself in this way.
@allsaintsmonastery Your video is gaining more views every day, do you have an annotation on it to correct your error for the viewer? How many people believe what you say is true? I made just for you a video suggesting what has happened here and telling of the situations where women do have internal testes and external female genitalia, and of women who do have masculine characteristics, but you didn't watch it. If you don't want to learn the truth why should anyone else?
@XXYSexChromosomes I may not have watched, but unlike some, sitting at the computer is not all that I do. I spend almost all of today visiting hospitals, stopped briefly to get my regular blood sample taken for the tumour marker level (I am ill with cancer, and that is what happens to some of my energy, hope you will forgive me), and am writing three major papers for conference in Moscow, at Oxford and another in Norfolk. I cannot respond as quickly as you demand. It is just not possible.
its hard to deal with cancer of the anything. the word itself is a dis-ease, a discomfort!
i am glad you devote much of your time ,and with your low energies, to continuing to help humanity as you seem to do. for me,its not important what your faith is. its important that people in your position are seen as servants to the people and for the good of all. i also do my best with homeless people and people in need and i do it for free but i feel i get paid in luck!
@XXYSexChromosomes By the way, where is the video? In view of the events with C. Semanya and the Olympics, etc , it is important. My research assistant is supposed to be collecting data for me on people who are bullied and/or persecuted. She is a volunteer and does her best, but as you pointed out, seems to have accepted some anecdotal information. Direct me to the video you are speaking of. After I am finished at the Cancer Clinic tomorrow, I will try to watch it.
@XXYSexChromosomes One cannot make an annotation to a video, and after seeing your mean-mindedness, I will have to careful review the information you have provided before I accept it and make a second video with some explanations and corrections.
i dont want to get involved but i have to. the word is spot on:mean-mindedness!
i have to say dont bother watching this persons videos. he is vulgar,rude,threatening and to say the least he will continue to argue and belittle you as much as he can. for someone with already low energy i would suggest you take my word for it!
sad but true.i have had to warn people about him before. i am a major intersex advocate and activist.i am happy to see a religious mind take this serious
@allsaintsmonastery You wrote, "It seems quite logical to suggest that the chemicals we are destroying our atmosphere with have something to do with the increase in the numbers" of transsexuals. There is good evidence that your conclusion is true for people who are intersex. You can find references to supporting studies at ourstolenfuture. org.
@matthew1796 Thanks for the reference. When we sin as a society, there is a price to pay. Sin is not always "breaking some law," but rather injuring other people, even our own grandchildren.
well if u look at studies about fish in the rivers,you will find a higher proportion of intersex fish these days,could be because of pollution or it could be because of evolution. in my case i am infertile so i think that that is tragic but my life has a purpose. i think everything that happens happens for a reason. i believe trans people are reacting to the notion that its only two genders! if there were more than 2 henders accepted i wonder what the human mix would be on censuses
It sounds like you are conflating transgender people with homosexuals. Homosexuals are the ones committing suicide. As far as I know, the jury is still out as far as their genetic disposition goes.
@vbfl920 Oh, no. Transgendered people are also bullied by Christian bigot, and some of them do commit suicide. Christian bigots have murdered many people with their unrelenting cruelty and ideology. The jury may still be out for bigots, for those of us who follow careful and solid medical science, it is absolutely clear that people are born homosexual. Only a mad man would assert that people choose to be Gay. Ah, you say, but teenages love to be beaten up and thrown out on the street at age 13
@XXYSexChromosomes I never suggested that XXY people are Gay, and apparently, my research assistant give some anecdotal misleading information to me about Klinefelters. But it is easy to see why a klinefelters child would be bullied. It happens with William's Syndrome kids also. My point is that bigots don't just generate persecution of Gay people, but that this spills over onto anyone who is in any way different.
@vbfl920 so they choose to be Gay so that their parents will hate them, they will be beaten up, often by their own father, mostly by Christian teenagers, inspired by their hate-filled pastors, forced to live on the street, cold, hungry, unloved, often raped (sometimes by heterosexual police officers) subject to exploitation and disease, but, oh yes, Mr. Christian Bigot, they choose this because they love this sort of "lifestyle."
Bigot? That's hardly fair. It's a sin, your Eminence. Sociopaths dont choose to be that way either, yet NOBODY encourages the behavior that comes naturally to them. With respect, I think you've gone to the other extreme.
@vbfl920 I hardly think one can compare Gay people to sociopaths. Much of industry and banking systems have been built by sociopaths, and they often make good CEOs and politicians. Sociopaths don't all go around killing people, but they also do not have empathy toward other human beings, so they can accomplish things that people with empathy cannot. I don't encourage Gay sexual relations either, but we are not even talking about that here. so why bring it up?
@allsaintsmonastery "I hardly think one can compare Gay people to sociopaths".
Then you are not listening to my point. I am NOT saying that gay people are sociopaths. I am saying that both types of people are born with particular pre-dispositions. One is born attracted to those of the same sex, the other is born without the capacity for empathy. My point is that just because someone is "born a certain way", this does not give them moral license to act upon their pre-dispositions. .....cont.
I think people, especially gay people, are probably taking you the wrong way. It seems that you are more interested in bashing those who believe that homosexuality is a sin, calling such people bigots, without making a distinction between those that merely hold this position on account of their faith, and those who are ABUSIVE in their attacks against homosexuals. You should not conflate both groups as one in the same. cont....
While it is certainly compassionate and applaudable to protect people from abuse, it is also important to tell those people the truth and to guide them in the way they should go, as a shepherd of God's people ought to do, by not ignoring the sin-status of homosexual behavior. I think you are sending the wrong message by constantly attacking those who believe it's a sin and calling them bigots.
@vbfl920 Dude, we are not talking about homosexuality, we are talking about transgender/intersex. This has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality TG/intersex people are absolutely not homosexual; you need to pay more attention to the broadcast, and hold back on your own personal fears a bit.
@allsaintsmonastery Thats fine. But I'm still skeptical about "idealogues" causing people with apparent birth-defects to commit suicide.Typically, and you've ranted about this before, is that "christian bigots" are the ones who cause the suicides of gay youth. Can you point me to some news stories where christian bigots cause the suicides of people with birth defects (transgender people) ?
birth defects...hmmmm i think from a god standpoint people are all born equal including the mentally handicapped the physically handicapped and apparently you are equal too even though you are slow to grasp evolution,human variance and the like!
most trans people become trans or believe themselves to be trans and needing to transition becayuse they dont understand the variances of human beings. INTERSEX people such as myself are not abnormal or rare-we walk among you
@peaceandparty Why would that be? I mean that trans do not understand the variances of human beings they are just as human as anyone else. Just because they are trans doesn't mean they can not understand know i understand that most people do not understand what it means to be one of the undivided a hermaphrodite are even intersexual. That can be confusing to many people.
to make distinctions on who is really to be tackled in regards to bigotry!
i do believe in GOD but i dont attend church services unless someone is getting married in one or someone has died or if there is a great choir!
do you believe homosexuality is a sin? dogs in parks are gods creatures-should we punish them for engaging in homosexuality? a bit of a bad example i know!lol
i think there are more than two sexes because i am a 3rd sex!;)
@allsaintsmonastery Abusive parents are so for their own reasons, whatever the child did has no bearing on the abuse. Marvin Gaye was murdered by his own father because Marvin was homosexual, his father was some kind of Minister of Religion of the Christian variety. I do not believe the Minister was representative of Christians or Ministers or fathers of homosexual people. I also do not believe that all Christians are honest, nor all Transsexuals for that matter.
@allsaintsmonastery You see all my "Abusive parents..." comments, every time I tried to post that message I got a red notice saying it failed and "try again" and as you can see I did. So it's not my fault that they're all there, but I will remove them. You will also know I eventually gave up trying to post and sent it to you privately. But the systems been a bit wacky recently.
Your blessing. First of all, I want to get this out of the way: I am in total 200% agreement with you about the subject of this video, so perhaps my comment is a bit out of place. However, I feel I must humbly say that you are a bit mistaken about the Tea Party. While it is true that there may be a few crazy people here and there, as a Tea Partier myself, I have found the majority of them to be of a more libertarian bent like me, wishing for everyone to live freely.
The majority of us are NOT fanatics (in fact, there has never been any videographical evidence to support the idea that we are); we simply want government to leave us alone to live however we wish, even if it means that someone wishes to live a homosexual lifestyle.
That said, I can't help but notice that you have spoken rather unfairly about us several times, both in your videos and in your comments. One comment that stands out most in my memory is when you called us "monstrous." This has no basis in fact, and people generally lose lots of credibility in my eyes for saying things like this because it's just irresponsible; but I respect you too much as a bishop and a theologian, so I wish to continue to listen to your messages.
Now, it would be preposterous of me to think that you have to like or agree with the Tea Party to be a good person. That's foolish. You and I can disagree on things, and that's perfectly fine; I only wish that you would be more responsible in your critiques of the Tea Party because we are simply your average mothers, fathers, sons and daughters who wish our freedoms to be preserved.
@GeonusKaikun Then you need better public relations. The pronouncements we hear from vocal tea party types like Sara Palin, Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry are disturbing in the extreme. The perception is that the Tea Party wishes to force fundamentalist religious ideology on the nation and police the way people live their lives.
@GeonusKaikun I agree that 'huge government" is very negative. In fact, the government does not belong in the bedrooms of the citizens, and it costs a lot of wasted money for them to be there. Moreover, Ron Paul's take on foreign aid is likely right on the mark. He has been perscient and prophetic over the years. He is not, however, a "Tea Partier." Michelle Bachman is, and she is especially scary.
@GeonusKaikun That would not include Santorum, Bachman or Perry, and certainly not Gingrich (although open marriage might be a bit libertarian). Ron Paul clearly is a libertarian, and for all that he has a few "far out" ideas, he makes more sense than all of them put together. One thing about him is consistency and integrity. I would like to see him lead the Reps. The "far out" things, he could not do anyway, but many of his ideas appear solid and sensible.
@ogopogo18 Well, have you ever considered that there may be other issues at state? I, for example, can't bring myself to support Ron Paul chiefly because he's wearing a tin foil hat when it comes to foreign policy, and that is downright dangerous in my view. If it weren't for this one major flaw, he would be my ideal candidate in every way, because he gets it where the others don't. That's why I'm supporting Santorum even though he's far from ideal; but he's "safer" than Paul.
@GeonusKaikun Well, right now the Republicans are a bit short of decent candidates. In the end, Romney might be the only one who can five Obama a run for his money, which is not to say that he is a top gun.
@GeonusKaikun Since Newt Gingrich is not the candidate of choice of the Tea Party, you are seeking bigger government (one that can enforce everyone's personal morals) and more overseas bombing in interference in the internal affairs of other nations.
@JorEl7771 Actually, it is not Gnostic. Medical and genetic conditions are extraordinary, not part of the natural relationship between body and mind. If we posited a consistent and universal enmity between body and soul, that would be Gnostic (like the famous Toll House Myth). When we speak of a medical anomaly, that is certainly not Gnostic.
@Eopyk: In 20 years, we may discover that gender identity is as fixed as adherents to biological determinism now claim: I may very well be proven wrong. Until then, I'm going to keep contesting what I see as a gnostic, deterministic, fatalistic ideology, because it deprives people who WANT to change of hope. I'm also going to fight coercive, misanthropic, behaviorist "interventions" that deprive people of freedom and sully the profession of education. I'm glad we can agree on the latter.
@Eopyk: I grew up in the era when Dr. David Comings—amazon com/dp/1878267280—was a featured speaker at national Tourette conferences, proclaiming that Tourette was genetically coded in the same genomic family as sexual deviancy, alcoholism, OCD, and more. At that time, arguing that education could help Tourette sounded ludicrous: there was (as there is now with transgendered issues) an absence of evidence. But absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absence of the possibility! My peace today is proof!
@matthew1796 Interestingly, I encountered a Tourettes gentlemen at a coffee house two days ago. The regular customers and staff were quite friendly with him; some strangers moved to the other side of the room from him, and stared at him with disdain. I am glad that you are comfortable with your Tourette syndrome. When I was enrolled in Tai K.D. some years ago, we had a very young boy in the class who was Tourette, and the TKD helped him a lot for various reasons.
@allsaintsmonastery I'm glad the young man you knew with Tourette was "helped a lot" by taekwondo. TKD is an example of an "educational intervention": the young man, I assume, freely chose to be in class; applied himself to learning; and changed his nervous system (including his brain) in the process. Learning interventions exist which even more precisely address the deficits shared by many people with Tourette—and they net extremely impressive results!
Great Video! If people would just listen to the words.
GMPNY 3 days ago
Great Video! If people would just listen to the words.
GMPNY 3 days ago
You are the one with the 'ideology;' one of 'political correctness,' one of 'if it feels right, it is right.' People are already free to commit any kind of new imaginative fornication that they want, so what's the problem for you? Why are you so hell bent in trying to get the church's blessing for this? With your attack on Fr. John, it seems you're trying to corral church teachings into the pen of 'hate speech.'
marykfilms 3 days ago
All of us suffer Fr.
Ettoredipugnar 4 days ago
Fr. We all suffer yes ? Weather physical or emotional or spritual trials. But thoughts in my mind about my sexuality ? Where do those thoughts come from ? Your speaking about people with physical trials isn't that a podvig. And don't we all carry/live our podvig ?
Ettoredipugnar 1 week ago
@Ettoredipugnar If you are suffering and you choose not to do something abiout it, that is your business. If someone else is suffering, who are you to bully them into not doing something about it?
allsaintsmonastery 4 days ago
People have always complained about having traits of the opposite sex. They do their best to correct it, not change their sex. What a strange crusade you are on, especially in this day and age when the world is falling apart. What is wrong with you? You're treating everyone like 'garbage,' people who 'need' to have their genders changed and trashing everyone else. You may be a monk, but it seems you've given up the struggle.
marykfilms 1 week ago
@marykfilms Bravo MaryK
Ettoredipugnar 1 week ago
@marykfilms You are epressing the very ignorance and cold heartedness that makes the world full of suffering. These people are not changing their sex, but only bringing their bodies into conformity with their actual gender. You have no idea at all what you are saying, but are only repeating the mantra of an ignorant and uncaring ideology.
allsaintsmonastery 4 days ago
I would think that a person who belived that they were a woman when they were a man has a demon. Eg Chasity Bono. She deformed her her body by having her breasts removed. Aren't our bodies a temple of the Holy Sprit ?
Ettoredipugnar 1 week ago
@Ettoredipugnar You think wrong. The body may be a temple, but the brain is not some kind of garbage. The manner in which the brain and the body become two different genders in the foetus is not even a mystery. It is well know how it happens. A person is not what the body is, but what the brain is. The body is a "system." It cannot think, have awareness or define itself. Only the brain can do that, and one's fender is that of the brain. Often these people have "micro penisis" and sometimes both
allsaintsmonastery 1 week ago
@Ettoredipugnar that and a vagina. Sometimes, they will have a vagina AND male testicles (undesended, but still functioning) You are very, very wrong, and it is our job to put a stop to the cruelty and destruction that ignorance causes.
allsaintsmonastery 1 week ago
Amazing!!!!! Thank you for making this video! <3
bookcrookliza 1 week ago
Thank you for posting this!!!! your very refreshing to watch :) may god bless you
Raksdanza23 1 week ago
Note Fr John Whitford: You hate this video, but then you hate practically every thing. Hate is your middle name, and you will waste great energy on it right up to the end of your life; but you will die like everyone else. Only your will draw your last breath with the venom and malice that has characterised you whole life.
allsaintsmonastery 2 weeks ago 2
How wonderful!
Aktinovolos 2 weeks ago
@peaceandparty: You mentioned studies of fish in rivers. Interestingly, psychiatric drugs may be partly to blame; see ww w denverpost. com/ci_16037537 (with spaces removed).
matthew1796 3 weeks ago
@matthew1796 Runoff from cattle pens and hog farm enclosures also carries masses of antibiotics and steroids into the ground water. We know that farmers not only use too many antibio. but that they also overdose their animals on them. The urine from the animals is potent and helps create antibi.resistant microorganisms., etc.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
always encouraging to see wise people like this. I got extreamly discouraged when or country voted stephen harper, but seeing people like this remind me that our country isnt full of idiots.
185tiff 3 weeks ago
very good vid and as an Intersex person, They need to get rid of the Trans mafia
MsKamododragon 3 weeks ago
@MsKamododragon Some people have mentioned it. I fear that those of us who are "outside" the issue have not heard enough about this, and we need to be better informed. I will look into this more deeply, and thank you for inviting our attention to this, as others have. I am mainly interested in stopping the persecution and bullying that often faces people with gender variations.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery The reason why their is a feud between Intersex and trans is because alot of Trans have tried to claim and pretend to be intersex without the diagnosing or testing. Some Even think that they can pass themselves off as being intersex. Some even have claimed to and use the so-called intersex brain theory, but no intersex group accepts it. Which is why it pisses off intersex people when they see transgender people claiming and pretending to be one.
MsKamododragon 3 weeks ago
@MsKamododragon i actually am a firm believer in the INTERSEX N THE BRAIN THEORY
peaceandparty 2 weeks ago
@peaceandparty well, I still don't because it's still an unproven theory that most RadFems, Lesbians, women and intersex people don't believe.
MsKamododragon 2 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery BTW, I'm a Buddhist, so I don't know what is your take on it.
MsKamododragon 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Also, I am an Intersex person with Kallmann's syndrome as well.
MsKamododragon 3 weeks ago
@MsKamododragon By the way, if you would like to give me you point of view on this, synaxis at orthodoxcanada dot org
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
People who make use of the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to promote intolerance, hate, malice, or to promote prejudices, ignorance, the dehumanisation of other human beings, or to strip people of their personhood are blaspheming the name and the sacrifice of Christ. We are called upon to strive toward spiritual perfection, not to bully others, to heal others through co-suffering love, not pejorative and accusations, to first become an example, and then to speak with humility and love to all.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery I have criticized the presentation of this issue; however, I have never endorsed Rick Perry, Michale Batman, or any of those types. YOu are mixing apples with oranges by trying to associate your opponents with other people, and thus obfuscating the issue. So, to say that anyone who attacked your point of view and endorses the church's position as evil, would be the equivalent of me saying you are evil because you may support pro-choice candidates
TheFraugustine431 3 weeks ago
@TheFraugustine431 The Orthodox Church has NO position on Transgender, NONE. Transgender has nothing to do with homosexuality. Show me one canon, one pronouncement, one verse of Scripture that says anything even remotely relating to Transgender. There is nothing, so you cannot say that the Church has any position on this matter. But even to suggest that it is related to homosexuality is evil and ignorant.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery It is evil and ignorant to call other people evil and ignorant to disagree with you. Where did I say that transgender had anything necessarily to do with homosexuality? Where? I have not said that? First you assume things about the political positions of your opponents, things not true, and then you make assumptions about what they are comparing the matter at hand to? This is purely distraction in the form of argumentation.
TheFraugustine431 3 weeks ago
@TheFraugustine431 It you are a TeaPartyite, then your movement does endorse these people, and has made it public. It does happen that some TeaPartyests have the good sense to endorse Ron Paul.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@TheFraugustine431 By the way, I do like Ron Paul. He has integrity.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery I agree; you can really see the issues that the media and establishment are angry about, if someone is anti-imperialist and anti-banker control, and actually will act on this, then they are not liked by the imperialist/bankers class that runs things.
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@allsaintsmonastery Secondarily, by trying to insinuate your own political philosophy into a subject matter, adn then attack others as holding something that is contrary to your political philosophy, when in fact they don't, and thus painting all your opponents evil, is itself an example of being an 'ideologue'. How many have accused the Orthodox of being blind because we refuse to consider 'new evidence' against the Resurrection, etc? It is one thing to state the church's
TheFraugustine431 3 weeks ago
@TheFraugustine431 teaching, but, it is another thing to say that fallen man's physical condition, and his 'feelings' and 'desires' in such a condition can be necessarily accepted. If someone has some serious medical disorder, then it can be dealt with, and the gender they are genetically should be their gender...Again, how are people like me are who are anti-war and anti-imperialist, but, disagree with you evil b/c we have had differen experiences? You put yourself on a
TheFraugustine431 3 weeks ago
@TheFraugustine431 It is evil first of all to suggest that Intersex/Trans people are homosexual, and secondly to suggest that there is a "cure" for it. If we could manipulate epigenetics, we would already have a cure for cancer.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery If there are people with a real medical deformation, that can be corrected.
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@TheFraugustine431 Now you are the one into apples and oranges. The matter is simply this: Intersex and Transgendered people are NOT homosexual, and the Church has not position whatsoever about them. The are often persecuted, sometime mercilessly, and bullied into suicide. I want to see that stopped, and I hope that Christians, who are the real root of the problem in N. America, will behave more like Christians and stop this wicked behaviour and slander.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Where have I don this? I have simply stated that people who have legit physical deformation as a result of problems in utero, or even geneitc issues, deserve to be treated the same as people who have an extra finger at birth, or a third arm, etc. If the issue needs correcting through surgery, and it is legit, as opposed to someone who has a psychological issue, then I have no problem. However, you must understand, that there are people who don't have
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@allsaintsmonastery real medical issues surrounding a warped physiology, but, instead, 'feel' like they should be a 'man/woman,and then have surgery for this reason; such as Chaz/Chastity Bono. Again,I have no problem with a person who has major physical deformities having surgeries to do the appropriate thing. I assume you wouldn't consider her case to be a correct case; but, they are the prominent ones, and the ones everyone assumed to be the poster for operations.
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Remember years ago, the late Bishop Anthony of CA was at our church and taking about some news writer who had said we should take all the gays and throw them into the Bay Area Bay. Someone in church "yelled" out "yes!" Bishop Tony stopped and said "who said that, who said that?!" When he found the guy, he ripped him a new one, in front of 400 people. Needs to be done, sometimes
40chrisk 3 weeks ago
@40chrisk Even when we do agree with people or aspects of their lives, so speak of "getting rid of them" is an echo of the NAZI party and WWII.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Right, the late Bishop was correct to rip into him. Too bad most Zionist "christians" don't know murder in the "heart" is no different then the physical act, as far as the Lord is concerned.
40chrisk 3 weeks ago
@40chrisk Christ told us that if we committed a sin in our mind, we have commtted it indeed. Murder in the mind is murder before the face of God.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@40chrisk They know, they just don't care. We all know that religion is the worlds greatest excuse for cruelty.
astrofrk 3 weeks ago
Your eminence I applaud you for standing up for these people who are treated like society's lepers. I have found your point of views refreshing and well stated on everything I have heard you say thus far in Orthodoxy. Christ taught us to love our neighbor not just the desirable. It was Zacheus the taxman that Jesus dined with not the rich men. I have had friends who are trans in one way or another. From one Orthodox to another I say thanks. God bless you and your monastery for your work.
monkjohn2010 3 weeks ago
we think youtube is big but actually its a bunch of small groups within a larger community
this video talks about intersex
i was actually the first person to speak about intersex on youtube and to talk with transsexuals about intersex
ask around. i amquite proud of that i have to say
and i am very very happy to stumble across this video of a religious person caring about what so many religious people dont do----delving into the misunderstood fractions of society and handling them human to human
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago 2
@peaceandparty I cannot abide to see the suffering caused by misunderstanding and sometimes just wilful ignorance. TG and Intersex people are often persecuted severly, and often enough by religious people who have ideologies by no knowledge or understanding, and they do not want knowledge or understanding. Some of them are patently stupid, and would drive a young TG or IS person suicide and be happy that they had killed themselves.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
wise facts
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@TheOrthodoxSteven But like many ignorant "svyatoshi" you are consumed with sexual fantasies that keep you from having any truthful and compassionate understanding of the human condition. To call you ignorant would be to give you too much credit.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@TheOrthodoxSteven You are way off base, Styopa. Like others in ROCOR, you have boiled your soul in bitterness, and so overwhelmed by your own hatred and malice that you cannot possibly have any relationship with Christ. You would visit infinite and unneccesary suffering on people merely to feed your own ego and ideologies. Transgender has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality, and it is not about "sex."
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@XXYSexChromosomes XXY: I am going to close you off, because you are using my site to attack other viewers. I have thanked you for your input, and for enlightening me about several things, and I really do appreciate it, but I am not able to allow you to attack other viewers who are also sharing their veiws.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
i hate to say it but this is a good move!
we,the intersex people of youtube, have been dealing with this menace for years now. i have ignored all his recent comments sent to me recently. i am finally at a stage of wanting to ignore him rather than having to ignore him!
i have YOUR back regarding this menace but sadly cant get too involved because its damaging for my health!
you seem like a level headed person. i am glad to make your virtual aqquaintance!
you do christ proud!
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XXYSexChromosomes 3 weeks ago
I would also like to make you and others aware that most people who are intersex affected do not approve of being labelled as being TG or TS. Hell our community is so bad were currently caught up within an internal war over the DsD, IS, or Hermaphroditic terminology for appropriate usage.
mishakailana 3 weeks ago 2
@mishakailana
excellent points kailana!
our community is bad because of a few reasons.
self acceptance and societies misunderstanding of INTERSEX people
why?... because supposedly many people will see INTERSEX "normal" people as abnormal when in fact we are like most people-each with our own issues,in house attacks are another.i mean kailana today i had you know who respond to me on this video,i have ignored their comment(not read-due to their stalker mentality)
welcome to PLANET INTERSEX! haha
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@peaceandparty Self-acceptance is so important. We are trying as well as we can to make others become more realistic and accepting. TG people who are undergoing the transition also need support, and they need to be reassured that they must look after their own well-being and ignore those who dissaprove.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
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i have mixed views on transsexuality. on the one hand.people are entitled to do anything with their bodies in this modern world with the medical advancements of being able to change their bodies. i personally think it would be great if societies could change their minds regarding gender and sexes. i like the notion that God created us each as equal and as different and that changing ones body is going against Gods will. though i did get breast tissue removed&i take T. so...!
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@peaceandparty Not changing one's body to match one's brain gender is more likely to be going against God's will. Do you really believe that it is God's will for people two be born with a body gender that differs from their brain gender? What a horrible creature God would be if that was the case. That would also mean that God makes some people Down's Syndrome and wilfully causes siamese twins. Why would He do that, just for laughs???
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
maybe say that in another way because the reply has me confused with what you are saying. basically there are more than two genders and certainly more than just males and females..there is a lot of grey areas that rarely are being highlighted. god does not create things to laugh at them. god has created difference so we all learn from each other. people with syndromes that are seen as handicaps are not completely handicapped. we all have our talents.god is good/ppl need help
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery perhaps too teach compassion, perhaps to allow some who truely love and cherish their children for the way they regardless of the way they are; so that others who haven't yet learned what it means to love and accept people for who they are perhaps just because as always we are meant to strive and try to be better to show our own love for all those around us. Who knows, maybe just maybe because we are all supposed to be different from one another .
mishakailana 3 weeks ago
@mishakailana Thank you for the information. It is positive that inform us about such matters. I will make the distinction in future, and I do apologise for the error.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
mishakailana is not a total expert but is very well informed,and we both know you made some errors in your video but you did the video with good intentions and for that i think i can speak for kailana,we thank you for making a step in the right direction.
dont apologise ,your video is far better than many videos online!
again thanks and i personally look forward to more dialogue with you!
my latest vid is about GOD ALLAH and religion-dont be put off...lol
:)
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery no worries, I understand the intent of your support video, just thought It appropriate to mention that though there are many similarities for some people who are IS and some that are TG or TS, that our experiences can be a great deal different, occasionally similar at times even though some within the IS community fear to acknowledge those similarities.
mishakailana 3 weeks ago
Justed wanted to say that I thought your video was very supportive even though some of the definitions descriptions were a little off. Not wrong but well there is a great deal of variation amongst conditions so not all people affected by the condition is exactly like everyone else with the same condition.
mishakailana 3 weeks ago 2
@mishakailana The primary aim is to be supportive, and to try to get others to be more understanding of the realities, and more supportive. I aplogise for anything that might have been offensive to any of you (I do not apologise for offending any bigots, bullies or superstitious clergy).
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Wow I think your deserve a hug :)
mishakailana 3 weeks ago
@TheOrthodoxSteven What blasphemy? Exactly how was he outside of the Church in his teaching? He is mainly condemning the cruelty, hate, viciousness, and malice spewed by people towards those who are transgender, so far to the point where it has led some transgendered people to suicide. In some cases, transgendered people are murdered by the people who hate them. If you think it is okay to spew bitterness, hatred, and malice at people then you haven't understood a thing that Christ taught.
magnus56j 3 weeks ago
thank you for explaining klinefelters syndrome in that way but if you are basing that on adele and the video on 80% girl 20% boy-not all xxys feel this way(or lets say it this way-admit it) i am xxy and i know i am neither male or female and i believe most humans have a mixture of the sexes,including yourself. its nice to hear a respectful and calm voice speaking about these issues. intersex has been swept under the carpet for too long! xxys are not "male" thats for starters!good words!thanks ;)
peaceandparty 4 weeks ago 2
@peaceandparty Thank you for your input. I do appreciate the help and the better understanding that some of you are sharing with me. My intent is to be as supportive as I can, and to encourage others to be more supportive, less judgmental.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago 2
@peaceandparty you know I never did quite understand the 80% Girl-20% Boy ratios. Seriously I mean for anyone counting chromosomes for XXY's I would of expected a 66 2/3 F and 33 1/2 M but thats just counted the 23rd chromosomal pair. So I was kind of thinking maybe it was just Adele's perception of being mostly female and part male or something. Still was very interesting vid
mishakailana 3 weeks ago
Someone asked me about the video response of Fr. John in Texas. The inquirer said he thought that Fr. John was simply ignorant. To say that this Fr John is ignorant is to give him too much credit. If he rose to the level of ignorant, it would be a great improvement.
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Good video you are educated very well.
lococavasa 4 weeks ago
@lococavasa
its a relief isnt it?
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XXYSexChromosomes 4 weeks ago
I am reading a book pertaining to the spiritual battle. Some things can be dealt with on a physical basis and some on a spiritual basis.
SheIsRisin 4 weeks ago
I know what trisomy 21 is. I know what it feels like to be judged. I know what you are speaking of. These things can be blessings if you address them properly. I don't believe it is our (man's) place to pass judgement, we all fall short of perfection.
SheIsRisin 4 weeks ago
@SheIsRisin My whole point, the errors pointed out by some kind viewers nothwithstanding, is that alot of energy is exhausted on ignorant hate and persecution that could better be spent on saying one's prayers and struggling with one's own sins, and the great societal sins against our biosphere.
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
@XXYforLIFE You and iI have discussed this already, and I have thanked you for the information you have offered. You do not need to keep defending yourself now. It may be true that my research assistant followed hearsay or anecdotes in collecting the information, but no one is accusing you of anything, so there is little need for you to go on defending yourself in this way.
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Your video is gaining more views every day, do you have an annotation on it to correct your error for the viewer? How many people believe what you say is true? I made just for you a video suggesting what has happened here and telling of the situations where women do have internal testes and external female genitalia, and of women who do have masculine characteristics, but you didn't watch it. If you don't want to learn the truth why should anyone else?
XXYSexChromosomes 4 weeks ago
@XXYSexChromosomes I may not have watched, but unlike some, sitting at the computer is not all that I do. I spend almost all of today visiting hospitals, stopped briefly to get my regular blood sample taken for the tumour marker level (I am ill with cancer, and that is what happens to some of my energy, hope you will forgive me), and am writing three major papers for conference in Moscow, at Oxford and another in Norfolk. I cannot respond as quickly as you demand. It is just not possible.
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
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XXYSexChromosomes 4 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
its hard to deal with cancer of the anything. the word itself is a dis-ease, a discomfort!
i am glad you devote much of your time ,and with your low energies, to continuing to help humanity as you seem to do. for me,its not important what your faith is. its important that people in your position are seen as servants to the people and for the good of all. i also do my best with homeless people and people in need and i do it for free but i feel i get paid in luck!
best wishes
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@XXYSexChromosomes By the way, where is the video? In view of the events with C. Semanya and the Olympics, etc , it is important. My research assistant is supposed to be collecting data for me on people who are bullied and/or persecuted. She is a volunteer and does her best, but as you pointed out, seems to have accepted some anecdotal information. Direct me to the video you are speaking of. After I am finished at the Cancer Clinic tomorrow, I will try to watch it.
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
@XXYSexChromosomes One cannot make an annotation to a video, and after seeing your mean-mindedness, I will have to careful review the information you have provided before I accept it and make a second video with some explanations and corrections.
allsaintsmonastery 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
i dont want to get involved but i have to. the word is spot on:mean-mindedness!
i have to say dont bother watching this persons videos. he is vulgar,rude,threatening and to say the least he will continue to argue and belittle you as much as he can. for someone with already low energy i would suggest you take my word for it!
sad but true.i have had to warn people about him before. i am a major intersex advocate and activist.i am happy to see a religious mind take this serious
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
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XXYSexChromosomes 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
i decided to watch his video response for you. even though i am on a diet of no negativity
and on behalf of all xxys globally and online and on youtube.we are sorry that certain things cannot be prevented!
i thought it was rude and its what i am used to the last 4 yrs from this person!
as i said already i have your back. i am a positive contributer for others to be happy in being themselves
i am happy you are going with logic aswell as faith to do with intersex issues-thx
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XXYSexChromosomes 1 month ago
@allsaintsmonastery You wrote, "It seems quite logical to suggest that the chemicals we are destroying our atmosphere with have something to do with the increase in the numbers" of transsexuals. There is good evidence that your conclusion is true for people who are intersex. You can find references to supporting studies at ourstolenfuture. org.
matthew1796 1 month ago
@matthew1796 Thanks for the reference. When we sin as a society, there is a price to pay. Sin is not always "breaking some law," but rather injuring other people, even our own grandchildren.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@matthew1796
well if u look at studies about fish in the rivers,you will find a higher proportion of intersex fish these days,could be because of pollution or it could be because of evolution. in my case i am infertile so i think that that is tragic but my life has a purpose. i think everything that happens happens for a reason. i believe trans people are reacting to the notion that its only two genders! if there were more than 2 henders accepted i wonder what the human mix would be on censuses
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@peaceandparty
more than 2 "henders" hahahahah
oooopppps
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
Thank you for speaking up on this issue and taking the bigots to task.
ogopogo18 1 month ago
It sounds like you are conflating transgender people with homosexuals. Homosexuals are the ones committing suicide. As far as I know, the jury is still out as far as their genetic disposition goes.
vbfl920 1 month ago
@vbfl920 Oh, no. Transgendered people are also bullied by Christian bigot, and some of them do commit suicide. Christian bigots have murdered many people with their unrelenting cruelty and ideology. The jury may still be out for bigots, for those of us who follow careful and solid medical science, it is absolutely clear that people are born homosexual. Only a mad man would assert that people choose to be Gay. Ah, you say, but teenages love to be beaten up and thrown out on the street at age 13
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XXYSexChromosomes 1 month ago
@XXYSexChromosomes I never suggested that XXY people are Gay, and apparently, my research assistant give some anecdotal misleading information to me about Klinefelters. But it is easy to see why a klinefelters child would be bullied. It happens with William's Syndrome kids also. My point is that bigots don't just generate persecution of Gay people, but that this spills over onto anyone who is in any way different.
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XXYSexChromosomes 4 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery
i wonder what it is that got you into all of this
did someone close to you die because of the bigotry in many churches supposed to be preaching love!?
no need to answer...i wouldnt suggest u answer in public anyway......
but i am happy as i have said before to be conversing with a sane mind on these matters
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@vbfl920 so they choose to be Gay so that their parents will hate them, they will be beaten up, often by their own father, mostly by Christian teenagers, inspired by their hate-filled pastors, forced to live on the street, cold, hungry, unloved, often raped (sometimes by heterosexual police officers) subject to exploitation and disease, but, oh yes, Mr. Christian Bigot, they choose this because they love this sort of "lifestyle."
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@allsaintsmonastery
Bigot? That's hardly fair. It's a sin, your Eminence. Sociopaths dont choose to be that way either, yet NOBODY encourages the behavior that comes naturally to them. With respect, I think you've gone to the other extreme.
vbfl920 4 weeks ago
@vbfl920 I hardly think one can compare Gay people to sociopaths. Much of industry and banking systems have been built by sociopaths, and they often make good CEOs and politicians. Sociopaths don't all go around killing people, but they also do not have empathy toward other human beings, so they can accomplish things that people with empathy cannot. I don't encourage Gay sexual relations either, but we are not even talking about that here. so why bring it up?
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery "I hardly think one can compare Gay people to sociopaths".
Then you are not listening to my point. I am NOT saying that gay people are sociopaths. I am saying that both types of people are born with particular pre-dispositions. One is born attracted to those of the same sex, the other is born without the capacity for empathy. My point is that just because someone is "born a certain way", this does not give them moral license to act upon their pre-dispositions. .....cont.
vbfl920 4 weeks ago
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I think people, especially gay people, are probably taking you the wrong way. It seems that you are more interested in bashing those who believe that homosexuality is a sin, calling such people bigots, without making a distinction between those that merely hold this position on account of their faith, and those who are ABUSIVE in their attacks against homosexuals. You should not conflate both groups as one in the same. cont....
vbfl920 4 weeks ago
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While it is certainly compassionate and applaudable to protect people from abuse, it is also important to tell those people the truth and to guide them in the way they should go, as a shepherd of God's people ought to do, by not ignoring the sin-status of homosexual behavior. I think you are sending the wrong message by constantly attacking those who believe it's a sin and calling them bigots.
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XXYSexChromosomes 4 weeks ago
@vbfl920 Dude, we are not talking about homosexuality, we are talking about transgender/intersex. This has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality TG/intersex people are absolutely not homosexual; you need to pay more attention to the broadcast, and hold back on your own personal fears a bit.
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Thats fine. But I'm still skeptical about "idealogues" causing people with apparent birth-defects to commit suicide.Typically, and you've ranted about this before, is that "christian bigots" are the ones who cause the suicides of gay youth. Can you point me to some news stories where christian bigots cause the suicides of people with birth defects (transgender people) ?
vbfl920 4 weeks ago
@vbfl920
birth defects...hmmmm i think from a god standpoint people are all born equal including the mentally handicapped the physically handicapped and apparently you are equal too even though you are slow to grasp evolution,human variance and the like!
most trans people become trans or believe themselves to be trans and needing to transition becayuse they dont understand the variances of human beings. INTERSEX people such as myself are not abnormal or rare-we walk among you
peaceandparty 4 weeks ago
@peaceandparty Why would that be? I mean that trans do not understand the variances of human beings they are just as human as anyone else. Just because they are trans doesn't mean they can not understand know i understand that most people do not understand what it means to be one of the undivided a hermaphrodite are even intersexual. That can be confusing to many people.
lococavasa 4 weeks ago
@peaceandparty You are abnormal. Go away this is where I comment as this is my interest, you're just a pretender.
XXYforLIFE 3 weeks ago
@vbfl920
i agree with your observations here on a level!
to make distinctions on who is really to be tackled in regards to bigotry!
i do believe in GOD but i dont attend church services unless someone is getting married in one or someone has died or if there is a great choir!
do you believe homosexuality is a sin? dogs in parks are gods creatures-should we punish them for engaging in homosexuality? a bit of a bad example i know!lol
i think there are more than two sexes because i am a 3rd sex!;)
peaceandparty 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery Abusive parents are so for their own reasons, whatever the child did has no bearing on the abuse. Marvin Gaye was murdered by his own father because Marvin was homosexual, his father was some kind of Minister of Religion of the Christian variety. I do not believe the Minister was representative of Christians or Ministers or fathers of homosexual people. I also do not believe that all Christians are honest, nor all Transsexuals for that matter.
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XXYforLIFE 3 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery You see all my "Abusive parents..." comments, every time I tried to post that message I got a red notice saying it failed and "try again" and as you can see I did. So it's not my fault that they're all there, but I will remove them. You will also know I eventually gave up trying to post and sent it to you privately. But the systems been a bit wacky recently.
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XXYSexChromosomes 1 month ago
Your Eminence,
Your blessing. First of all, I want to get this out of the way: I am in total 200% agreement with you about the subject of this video, so perhaps my comment is a bit out of place. However, I feel I must humbly say that you are a bit mistaken about the Tea Party. While it is true that there may be a few crazy people here and there, as a Tea Partier myself, I have found the majority of them to be of a more libertarian bent like me, wishing for everyone to live freely.
GeonusKaikun 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun
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The majority of us are NOT fanatics (in fact, there has never been any videographical evidence to support the idea that we are); we simply want government to leave us alone to live however we wish, even if it means that someone wishes to live a homosexual lifestyle.
GeonusKaikun 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun
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That said, I can't help but notice that you have spoken rather unfairly about us several times, both in your videos and in your comments. One comment that stands out most in my memory is when you called us "monstrous." This has no basis in fact, and people generally lose lots of credibility in my eyes for saying things like this because it's just irresponsible; but I respect you too much as a bishop and a theologian, so I wish to continue to listen to your messages.
GeonusKaikun 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun
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Now, it would be preposterous of me to think that you have to like or agree with the Tea Party to be a good person. That's foolish. You and I can disagree on things, and that's perfectly fine; I only wish that you would be more responsible in your critiques of the Tea Party because we are simply your average mothers, fathers, sons and daughters who wish our freedoms to be preserved.
GeonusKaikun 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun Then you need better public relations. The pronouncements we hear from vocal tea party types like Sara Palin, Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry are disturbing in the extreme. The perception is that the Tea Party wishes to force fundamentalist religious ideology on the nation and police the way people live their lives.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun I agree that 'huge government" is very negative. In fact, the government does not belong in the bedrooms of the citizens, and it costs a lot of wasted money for them to be there. Moreover, Ron Paul's take on foreign aid is likely right on the mark. He has been perscient and prophetic over the years. He is not, however, a "Tea Partier." Michelle Bachman is, and she is especially scary.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun That would not include Santorum, Bachman or Perry, and certainly not Gingrich (although open marriage might be a bit libertarian). Ron Paul clearly is a libertarian, and for all that he has a few "far out" ideas, he makes more sense than all of them put together. One thing about him is consistency and integrity. I would like to see him lead the Reps. The "far out" things, he could not do anyway, but many of his ideas appear solid and sensible.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun Yet, 'teapartiers' overwhelmingly supported people like Palin, Bachmann, and Rick Perry...That pretty much says it all.
ogopogo18 1 month ago
@ogopogo18 Well, have you ever considered that there may be other issues at state? I, for example, can't bring myself to support Ron Paul chiefly because he's wearing a tin foil hat when it comes to foreign policy, and that is downright dangerous in my view. If it weren't for this one major flaw, he would be my ideal candidate in every way, because he gets it where the others don't. That's why I'm supporting Santorum even though he's far from ideal; but he's "safer" than Paul.
GeonusKaikun 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun Well, right now the Republicans are a bit short of decent candidates. In the end, Romney might be the only one who can five Obama a run for his money, which is not to say that he is a top gun.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@allsaintsmonastery Hello your Eminence. What is the Orthodox position on homosexuality? Is it a sin?
Bakmoon 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun Since Newt Gingrich is not the candidate of choice of the Tea Party, you are seeking bigger government (one that can enforce everyone's personal morals) and more overseas bombing in interference in the internal affairs of other nations.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@GeonusKaikun Too bad the Tea Party cannot support Ron Paul.
allsaintsmonastery 4 weeks ago
@allsaintsmonastery He'd be perfect for the Tea Party if he wasn't so naive when it comes to Islamic terrorism.
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JorEl7771 1 month ago
@JorEl7771 Actually, it is not Gnostic. Medical and genetic conditions are extraordinary, not part of the natural relationship between body and mind. If we posited a consistent and universal enmity between body and soul, that would be Gnostic (like the famous Toll House Myth). When we speak of a medical anomaly, that is certainly not Gnostic.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@Eopyk: In 20 years, we may discover that gender identity is as fixed as adherents to biological determinism now claim: I may very well be proven wrong. Until then, I'm going to keep contesting what I see as a gnostic, deterministic, fatalistic ideology, because it deprives people who WANT to change of hope. I'm also going to fight coercive, misanthropic, behaviorist "interventions" that deprive people of freedom and sully the profession of education. I'm glad we can agree on the latter.
matthew1796 1 month ago
@Eopyk: I grew up in the era when Dr. David Comings—amazon com/dp/1878267280—was a featured speaker at national Tourette conferences, proclaiming that Tourette was genetically coded in the same genomic family as sexual deviancy, alcoholism, OCD, and more. At that time, arguing that education could help Tourette sounded ludicrous: there was (as there is now with transgendered issues) an absence of evidence. But absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absence of the possibility! My peace today is proof!
matthew1796 1 month ago
@matthew1796 Interestingly, I encountered a Tourettes gentlemen at a coffee house two days ago. The regular customers and staff were quite friendly with him; some strangers moved to the other side of the room from him, and stared at him with disdain. I am glad that you are comfortable with your Tourette syndrome. When I was enrolled in Tai K.D. some years ago, we had a very young boy in the class who was Tourette, and the TKD helped him a lot for various reasons.
allsaintsmonastery 1 month ago
@allsaintsmonastery I'm glad the young man you knew with Tourette was "helped a lot" by taekwondo. TKD is an example of an "educational intervention": the young man, I assume, freely chose to be in class; applied himself to learning; and changed his nervous system (including his brain) in the process. Learning interventions exist which even more precisely address the deficits shared by many people with Tourette—and they net extremely impressive results!
matthew1796 1 month ago
@XXYSexChromosomes Good point to make.
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