Pheidippides! . He run with his shield, armor and the whole war equipment, so that he wouldn't be thought as a traitor that left the battlefield to save his life!
Four of the world's greatest and oldest ancient cities, Persepolis (burnt down by alexander), Tyre, Babylon, and Susa were wiped off the map by Alexander's barbarian invasion. Many other smaller cities in Persia disappeared as well, its inhabittants massacared and the cities burnt to the ground.
That is an infathomable amount of destruction of culture and wisdom, comparable only to the handywork of the Mongolian barbarians under Ghengis Khan
@greggysr it was war dude. persians burned both athens and eretria and every city that didnt surrender during their invasion. an alexander didnt destroy babylon u fool. he used it as his new capital. where did u study history u moron? He only destroyed persepolis.
Four of the world's greatest ancient cities, Persepolis (burnt down by alexander), Tyre, Babylon, and Susa were wiped off the map by Alexander's barbarian invasion. Many other smaller cities in Persia disappeared as well, its inhabittants massacared and the cities burnt to the ground.
That is an infathomable amount of destruction of culture and wisdom, comparable only to the handywork of the Mongolian barbarians under Ghengis Khan
@greggysr Actually Babylon survied, it's where alexander died. It just shrunk over time after because the seleucids, founded Seleucia, and Ctesiphon. Which in turn abandoned after the caliphate founded Baghdad.
From that battle 6000 Persians died and ONLY 192 Greeks. Thats the difference of an educated, trained, free, democratic and defensive army than a pack of slaves fighting under the threat of the whip of Tyranny.
What I am saying is that yes I like the Greek army of the time. I admire it as a very good and formidable force...and Greece was a very forward-thinking and great Empire. That's obvious. But I also want to say that the Perisans were the opposite. They were a joke...absolute clowns. So combine the best army against the worst and this is what you get. A handful of Greeks slaughtering a million Persians. lol
if the persians were so bad how did they manage to form an empire that span the 2/3 of the known world back then my friend? their tactics worked i assure you. but they worked on everyone against the greeks thats the trick. they had never met anyone that fought with heavy armor before. to them massed ranks and close combat were unheard of. thats why they lost! it was like asking soccer players to play basketball with the bulls!! the greeks were the right people at the right place to stop them.
Because they conquered sub-Saharan Africans, who to this day have never even invented a written language or the concept of a vehicle. Fighting Africans is childs-play to most forces; take for example the battle of Blood River, where 400 Dutch explorers won a battle against over 20,000 zulus and didn't lose a single man.
After having control of such huge numbers, most enemies simply bowed to them and allowed them to take over. Not the Greeks.
@ailouros24 Your a fucking moron. "to them massed ranks and close combat were unheard of. thats why they lost" Are you retarded? The persians are the ones who had massed ranks moron, not the Greeks. Fuck you are a true minda.
@Fatalerror300 when i say "massed ranks" i dont mean "a lot of people crowding together" you fuckhead. I am talking about the greek phalanx, heavily armored warriors trained to fight in unison and to support each other. its called massed ranks because they stood so close (for protection) they literally rubbed elbows. the persians had A LOT of FARMERS armed with a sword and no clue as to what to do in combat. read a fucking book fool.
But what I'm saying is that, yes the Greeks were a formidable fighting force...good generals etc. BUT the Persians were also very poor...so that sort of makes the Greek victories seem heroic. I;m saying yes they were very good but combine to that the sheer comedy of the Persians.
But anyway...thank God for the Greeks...they protected Europe in those times. And yes...they were very good soldiers and generals..not saying they were not.
I know the Greeks were some of the best warriors at the time and the Spartans were the best arguably of any time....but still, there comes a time when even the best cannot win. For example...today, the North Korean army is pretty poor with old equipment..but there are over a million soldiers...which poses a problem. Numbers make the strength in some cases.
@terraprod: But if Datis kept his cavalry on the battlefield there is no chance in hell the Greeks would've won that...remember that cavalry at the time was the same as tanks today. The Phlanx would do very little against a cavalry which was free to roam and outflank. The Phalanx was slow to manouvre and couldn't with spears lowered. Anyway..at Marathon they were literally all Hoplites and not Phalanx unit so it's a moot point.
But saying all this...there was nothing superior about the Greek "army" (it was militia..all of them were civilians). If the Greeks were so superior, why did they send the guy to run to Sparta to ask for help? Please answer...
No..it's simple...the Persian generals were incredibly stupid and arrogant
Spartans were Greek, And persians tryed to conquere greece, all the greek cities have to be united to win the persian army. Fact that happend 10 years later in the battle of thermopyle, salamis,platea,mikalis. In general the greek army was the best of his time, they had the best tactics the best generals and armor they were not just civilans as you say although every civilian knew who to fight (even great phlisopheres like plato fought) they were also thousands of greek merchanaries in the word.
Miltiades, yes waited to see what the Persians did, but if the cavalry never left the battlefield of Marathon, the Persians would've won whatever he did. The Greeks were heavily outnumbered. The Persians also had cavalry. The Persians would've won. So yes they waited for something...but they were not sure of what seeing they would've been slaughtered had they come down and faced them. He saw the cavalry was gone and took his chances...and it worked.
Yeah explain why the Greeks were waiting on the hilltop a few days before they came down to fight. I'll tell you why..because the Greeks knew they would lose against the Persian cavalry. Now I don't know (no one does for sure) why the Persians would be stupid enough to let the cavalry leave the battlefield...but they did and this gave the Greeks a chance to turn things around. Also remember that the Greek general was an ex Persian soldier. That helped...
Even with out cavalry it is not easy at all to win an army 3 times bigger than yours. Also the cavalry would not be able to smash easily the greek phalanx formation of the greece without extremely great loses (only alexander the great managed to do that against the sacred band of thebes in the battle of chaeronia)
The Roman empire only began expanding as a direct result of losing any Greek influence in the Roman army (i.e. old-fashioned hoplite like units, civilian-militia etc) and started making a professional army based on speed and manouever. So no...you're wrong.
And this "master sroke" at Marathon...where the Greeks run down the hill. Well isn;t that instinctive? If you have archers firing arrows at you..wouldn't you run FFS? Or dawdle down the hill and get hit?? But saying that...Persians see the Greeks up a hill...have only archers...oh wait a second, send the fucking horses off to pasture or on the boats (depending on which viewpoint you believe)...how fucking dumb is that? Datis was just another SHIT Persian general..head stuck up ass...far up it
But lets face it...were the Greeks (including the Spartans) really that "good" or were the Persians pretty "bad"> I would go for the latter...the Persians threw away many battles which they had in their hand..usually to some pretty dumb moves (Marathon being an example...why take the cavalry out of the battlefield?)... Why did the Persians insist on 1 kind of infantry soldier...which was basically an excellent archer with a useless pointy sword...a bit 1 dimensional..don't you think?
That's the whole point...the Persians SHOULD have won against the Greeks. Any competent general would've killed off the Greeks a long time ago. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the Greeks won...I'm European, afterall. But yes, the Greek were good warriors, but also the Persians were some real dumb animals, too. The Spartans won the battle od Thermopylae because of Greek good tactics and Persian bad ones. All things being equal...the Persians would've/should've won the battle...easily. Marathon too.
my friend if the persians threw away many battles because of their dumb moves they wouldnt have made one of the greatest empires of the world. The Greeks were simply superius, even the tactics of the roman army were based in the Greek.
Don't know much about history, do you? The Persians were strong when going up against small nations and when did the Persians ever go up against a strong Empire? Even the Greeks were week considering they were city-states at the time and the Persians still couldn't beat them. But saying that...tell me one strong empire the Persians vanquished. Most historians agree the Persians simply built their empire by bullying smaller ones...
The empire of Phrygia in Minor Asia,Mydia and Baktria who had milions of soldiers an cavalry. Don;t Forget Egypt one of the richest countries then with a lot of army also and enough money to mobilize an army of thousands. The island of Cyprus and the cities of phoenicia who had the best navy at that time.The greek colonies in minor Asia also. In battle of Marathon the greeks destroyed an army three times bigger than their with only losing 100+men.
terraprod@ The Persian Empire never destroyed the Egyptian Empire...seeing it was there when the Romans were around. The "empire" of Phrygia? lol...wow what an empire. And please...no Empire had "millions of soldiers and cavalry"...not even the Persians...that's your over-active imagination right there.
About the Battle of Marathon...as I said, the Persians lost because of bad tactics NOT because the Greeks were superior. If the Greeks were superior liek you said, why did they wait a few days?
the persians had one milion in the battle of gaugamela (where the greeks won again)with the word superior i mean that the greek army had better warriors,better generals,better tactics better armor and weapons their tactic was genius , they managed to destroy an army three times bigger than them.Miltiades waited in order to see what Datis plan was, when he figured it out he found away to win them.
Also 10 years later the persians re-tryed to attack greece.They lost their great navy in the battle of salamis thanks to themistocles. Learn about the final battle of the persian wars the battle of platea were according to herodotus 39.000 greeks won 600.000 persians, in this battle you can see the superiosity of the greek army.
@terraprod: also...The Roman army based a PART of their EARLY army on the Greeks (i.e. the hoplites). Saying that, did the Romans adopt the phalanx? NO. And the Romans invented the famous Quincunx Formation, not the Greeks. Alsom the early Roman military units were a mixture of Etruscan and Greek military units...mostly Etruscan though. Though when the Marian reforms came into affect, the Roman army LOST ALL Greek influence, seeing the Greek empire was dying. Please read books. ;)
@ArmyDubsta: I don't recall mentioning the phalanx...please tlel me where I mentioned the phalanx. But saying that, Greek units were based on slow, cumbersome units...the phalanx was the ultimate slow unit, but also the hoplites (spartans)...they relied on defence first and foremost and stabbing spears...hence why the Greek army was not a match for the dynamic Roman units...and ultimately the Greek empire fell...
Four of the world's greatest ancient cities, Persepolis (burnt down by alexander), Tyre, Babylon, and Susa were wiped off the map by Alexander's barbarian invasion. Many other smaller cities in Persia disappeared as well, its inhabittants massacared and the cities burnt to the ground.
That is an infathomable amount of destruction of culture and wisdom, comparable only to the handywork of the Mongolian barbarians under Ghengis Khan.
"Ευκλής" (Efklis) was the name of the person who run from the battlefield to Athens and said "νενικήκαμεν" (nenikikamen = we won). another important point is that Efklis was not a runner but a soldier who after winning the battle, run WITH HIS FULL ARMOR 42.195 m to Athens.
Yes, I second this remark by Greek solid. Everyone must learn a little more Greek before they attempt to spell/pronounce Greek words, which in fact exist in teh English language anyway. Fidipiddes most likely said 'Nenikikamen' which would be translated into We won. Now analyzing this work, you will find in its etymioogy the word 'Nike,' which means 'Victory' and which has been popularized in English by the footwear company, and which also is the name of the goddess.
but surelyan army, could have a few horses, even 10. i believe a lot of facts from history are left out, or cut out. its just not logic for an army of 10,000 men, in a time when horses were used constantly, to not be able to have a single horse
Armies don't work that way...what good would 10 horses be when they would be dead in a few seconds? Armies are about fighting UNITS, not individual men. Even the fabled Spartans were nothing unless they were in formation, the Spartan shield did not protect them but the man on their left...hence a Spartan on his own was unprotected..that was the theory, anyway.
Also, remember that you also need to train the horses for war..which would require stables etc. Greeks/Romans didn't value cavalry.
I perceived and acknowledged your comments about the Spartans. I believe you based this on the film '300', which is Historically inaccurate in some areas. When the Spartans came out of formations, for what reason did each Spartan slaughter 50 or so Persians, each? Whilst still being outnumbered at the same time about 5:1, and you still call them defenseless without Phalanx?
@ArmyDubsta: I don't think you understood what I said. You do realise 300 was not based on the battle of Marathon, right? And that YOU are basing your reasoning on the movie. Who told you they would break rank and kill 50 or so Persians...oh, the movie?
Secondly, the only reason a unit like the Spartans (which is a basic HOPLITE unit) would break ranks is to chase routing units or engage units like archers, for which the Persians had many... and where did I mention the phalanx????
And I would disagree that horses were used "constantly". You are thinking of the middle ages. In classical times WALKING was used constantly...horses were a great luxury and only rich people with status had them. That applied to countries like Greece and Italy where horses were not native animals..not war horses, anyway. In places like Persia etc then yes horses were more common (Arabian stallion) etc
And lastly what most people forget about this battle, or don;t even realise...is that the Persian army was a PROFESSIONAL army, but the Greek army was not...meaning the Greek army consisted of farmers and other such folk who had to buy their weapons and armor...where would a farmer get a horse? And if he did have a farm horse, it would be good for ploughing fields not charging into battle. People have misconceptions about armies in classic times comparing them to todays armies. Keyword: militia
I like how the History Channel's version of history has the Persian scout wearing a turban, as though he is a "muslim" Hahahahahahahahaha!
Unfortunately the History channel is nothing more than a fictional comedy of actual history.
The uneducated jealous jews that work there get their facts from fictional Holyjude movies and video games like the old 80's version of Prince of Persia and use it to come up with their version of fictional history along with fictional costumes, maps etc.
Whats even more amazing is not only that a people can be so brainwashed as the poeple of Skopje/Vardar is, but how they can be so stupid and blind. I mean, they came here like hundreds and hundreds of years AFTER Alexander's death. How in hell could he be a slav?! He spoke greek, wrote greek, worshiped greek gods and were the biggest greek patriot of allt times. He united our states to create a superpower by greek blood, and he made it
when we were spreading civilazation to the world you were canibals, idiot.you are a mixture of people who have nothing in common.you are not a nation.nowadays you bring only suffering to this world
True, that is a very accurate assesment of Persians as the spreaders of civilization, and its also true that the bully powers today (as well as their jewish lapdogs in hollywood) are bringers of lies, misery, death and war everywhere so its not surprising that they worship a vicious barbarian figure like Alexander so much in their fictional movies..
Whoever wrote that the Persians spread civilization ought to have their heads examined. They most likely are Turks who deny that the Ephesuswritings are in Greek and try to promote that they are Latin. That's warmongering, it isn't civil.
Greggyrs tell that to the thousands of people of various tribes(and I am not talking about the Greeks) who worship him as a God and a savior even today. You should learn some history before posting nonsense about Alexander the Great being a barbarian. Its certain that if he was a barbarian he wouldnt be known as "Great" all over the world today.
GreekSolid, you must get laught at a lot. Could you explain who exactly "worships" alexander? I can tell you it certainly not any of the victims...sure if you tell enough lies about somebody such as alexander, through fictional "historical" movies then obviously people will have false impressions about him.
To correct your stupidity, "the Great" is a suffix which was given to the Persian kings that ruled Asia at that time..alexander simply Stole the title after the Achaeminid dynasty collapsed
Alexander treated his enemies as citizens and respected their customs and Gods.His soldiers and himself married native Persian women(not by force of course) and treated them as equals. Google "turkana tribe" and find by your self if there are people who worship Alexander today. In the end you should be thankfull for Alexander. Just think that if he didnt exist, the world would be probably different today.Not Hellenized but Persian-influenced. If we are not slaves today we owe it to him.
GeekSolid, you are making a fool of yourself. Alexander crusified 6000 people in Tyre alone and took the remaining women and children along as slaves.
He forced Persian women into marriage in order to legitimize himself as more than just a another barbarian invader.
Immediately after the barbarian invasion, the Persian Empire which had been held together by the Achaeminds and Medes for centuries broke up because the greco-macedonian barbarians could not administer it.You are truly delusional!
Greggysr believe what you want to believe(I am not talking about the crusifixions which were true(about 2000 people actually) but you should not judge a man with todays standards) or better yet read more Arianos. The funniest thing is calling ancient Greek-Macedonians barbarians(you should know better who is to be called a barbarian by the original term) Anyways I find it quite silly to continue this argument here on youtube so lets stop it here.I think you ll agree. Have a nice day.
Oh but don't forget cuze at tyre Alexander told the insiders that if they surrender they will leave unharmed.But nooo they refused.then alexander sent some messengers to convince them again. Then again tyre insiders slaughtered the messengers on the walls by cutting their throats in front of alexander. Then of course alexander's soldiers got revenge by slaughtering them.Dont talk bullshit that you don't know you fool.
still now fyrom can not see that the history is not only macedonia.... aristele s wa s alexanders teacher... alexander didnt choos e a slav techer... coz slavs didnt exist this period!!!!so he spoke greek and worship greek gods... i dont se any fyrom gods anywhere
How do you feel being so unsmart and brainwashed. I can't believe that a people can be brainwashed in the year of 2009. One poeple can, the people of Skopje/Vardarganska
Alexander told the crowd that he wanted to unite with HIS people by blood, the GREEKS. He wanted us to become a superpower, and he succeded.
Alexander was greek. EVeryone knows it except of Skopje who government brainwash them. You have no identity, no history. Thats why you try to steal one.
But the persian were much more organized the first human rights were written down by a persian king. Also zaratust the founder of the religion of zorotarism influed much the greek scientist like plato and aristoteles.
The greeks were smart. Because the persians could use their cavalary to attack the phalanx formation and thats what mardonius tried to do so in platea but because of the cavalary general killed by the greeks he couldnt and he used the infantery and all we know when its about infantery the greeks were much better.
What most people do not count, was that the Greeks, were able to run, 200 meters, keeping their pace and lines, under the sound of military music. All this metal line fall at the enemy line when Persian arrows fall behind Greek lines. Also, honor to Plateaus! 1000 man joined the Athenians, but many people forget them :( (even the history channel)
As for Persians, they gave to much credit to their archers and cavalry ,and less to their infantry (like the army's of middle age in Europe). They thought that they could engage the enemy from afar, and then use cavalry to strike from the flanks, a very good tactic. The Persian line was defended by wall of big shields.
well first thing is, that the movie i watched "300" and these documentaries tell me one thing. I dont understand why persian armour was so bad made, so light, and so un protective. I really think this was the major lack of the persian armies forces but...its very hard to control a big country like Persia that time...but i still think that its not only about outnumbering, i mean if you hav a gun, and 10 pple hav knifes, in a distance you could kill all of them easily. Second) lack of strategy...
Most of the soldiers of Persia were farmers etc. that were given a spear and shield and told to fight. The Greek hoplites were semi-proffessional soldiers that had acess to superior armouries that produced fine weaponry and armour.
were not professional army's in greece that time(except mercenerys that fought in distant lands), every Greek citizen was obliged to bear arms according to his status at the age of 18, and served his city until become 50. Middle class made the Hoplites that was the backbone of the greek army, more poorer classes, made the skirmish classes, and nobility made the cavalry (although cavalry rarely fought, anyway they were very few).
I do believe as Isamarine said a lot has to be said about the scientific advancement of the warring nations. The knowledge of materials and the manipulation of the materials, in so far as the use of stronger metals, if one person is using bone/flint or copper and the other is using bronze, the one w/ bronze will break the others weapons and armor. This is a simplification of the actual difference in the materials used, yet w/ better blacksmiths/armorers will give better weapons.
so fighting in their own style for their own battlefield environment they were just as good as the greeks(until the proffessional army of the macedonians),in art(which meant technology) they were unsurpast at that time by the greeks.if the greek phalanx was so good then why was it beaten by the unknown at that time, army of Rome in 197 BC at Cynoscephalae.your thinking is as flawed as your single minded acceptance of greek supremacy
watching youtube videos or quoting from wikipedia doesnt make u right "dude",and the fact that Alexander was blown away by the persian civilisation seeing Babylon,Persepolis,Susa,etc proves i'm right.the persians were advanced enough to conquer their side of the world with "sticks and stones" as u would say,but remember that this army was made out of mercenaries and men who acted on behalf of their anual duty to the state and not proffesional soldiers like those of Phillip the 2nd,or his son.
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cdude333 you r kinda wrong...the persians were more advanced technologically than the greeks(so much for not using their brain argument).rome started as an extremely well organised state and fell into ruins due to decay in its values,same happened to the persians.When Assiria(original persian kingdom,before it expanded to the status of empire) was a power,greeks were little more than farmers.
haha lol ok, then why did the greeks win? the persians were more technologically advanced? ever heard of a phalanx, a holpon shield? and what did the persians have? cloth armor?
dude, read up before speaking lol little more than farmers? well duh who wasnt in that time, at least the greeks also had cities.
Its amazing how this small nation in the Balkans managed to end up conquering Persia. Massive Persia could not conquer Greece. Tiny Greece conquerd Persia. why? The Greeks used there brains in warfare as with science
Synxarityria se afton pou eftiaxe afto to video, ke Efxaristies se afton pou to ekane post!
As to paroun gia paradigma osi Ellines den esthanonte arketa peryfani na yperaspizoun tin patrida mas, apo tis psefto-katygories ton fthoneron ke oxi mono!
Thank you slav-son being well known for our hospitality we the Hellins (known as Greeks to the barbarians) always welcomes good greetings coming from the heart even if they come from ignorant makedoninjas.
The word 'barbarian' is an ancient Greek word meaning the alien - stranger - non Greek person and it was not to describe if someone was savage or uncivilized as the word is used today. Just think that in 2000 years all people around the world (if any)could use the word 'tourist' the same way.
Sorry aderfe nomiza oti to post apey8ynotan se mena giati kati me rwthse o waw460 k apo katw htan to diko sou. Otan to eida trela8hka k apanthsa amesws. Meta eida to GR9.Me ayta poy egrapsa nomiza oti apantousa ston slavo, pes oti ta eipa s'ayton ok? ;-)
what the hell are you talking about you stupid slavobulgarian monkey?you make no sense...macedonia isn't another country,it's part of Greece!so go fuck yourself in Vard-ass-ka you pathetic piece of shit!haha!
Pheidippides! . He run with his shield, armor and the whole war equipment, so that he wouldn't be thought as a traitor that left the battlefield to save his life!
Kakaraimpas 1 month ago
Four of the world's greatest and oldest ancient cities, Persepolis (burnt down by alexander), Tyre, Babylon, and Susa were wiped off the map by Alexander's barbarian invasion. Many other smaller cities in Persia disappeared as well, its inhabittants massacared and the cities burnt to the ground.
That is an infathomable amount of destruction of culture and wisdom, comparable only to the handywork of the Mongolian barbarians under Ghengis Khan
greggysr 2 months ago
@greggysr it was war dude. persians burned both athens and eretria and every city that didnt surrender during their invasion. an alexander didnt destroy babylon u fool. he used it as his new capital. where did u study history u moron? He only destroyed persepolis.
vonzuchter 2 months ago
jeez I love history!!
MrJunglestalker 4 months ago
u can visit the graves of the dead soldiers of battle of marathon.they died only 200 greeks that day.their grave is 15 miles ouside of athens
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
Four of the world's greatest ancient cities, Persepolis (burnt down by alexander), Tyre, Babylon, and Susa were wiped off the map by Alexander's barbarian invasion. Many other smaller cities in Persia disappeared as well, its inhabittants massacared and the cities burnt to the ground.
That is an infathomable amount of destruction of culture and wisdom, comparable only to the handywork of the Mongolian barbarians under Ghengis Khan
greggysr 1 year ago
@greggysr Actually Babylon survied, it's where alexander died. It just shrunk over time after because the seleucids, founded Seleucia, and Ctesiphon. Which in turn abandoned after the caliphate founded Baghdad.
Liquidsback 5 months ago
when lisening to this it seems that the persians was the worst warriors ever created and that they only had power in their numbers
Alesandros356 1 year ago
2.09 greek flag lol
akalestos1983 1 year ago 2
@akalestos1983 Ε, εντάξει τους ξέφυγε μια μικρή λεπτομέρεια. Βγάζει μάτι, βέβαια.
nikat78 11 months ago
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From that battle 6000 Persians died and ONLY 192 Greeks. Thats the difference of an educated, trained, free, democratic and defensive army than a pack of slaves fighting under the threat of the whip of Tyranny.
yperionas 1 year ago
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How a feared soldier kills 35 to 1.....cock sucker Americans?
GeorgiosKritikos77 1 year ago
"We have won!" is literally in Greek: "Nike!"
The Greek word for "victory" used in the Bible in
1 John 5:4 "For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world--our faith."
G3529
νίκη
nikē
nee'-kay
Apparently a primary word; conquest (abstractly), that is, (figuratively) the means of success: - victory.
olabashanda 1 year ago
@olabashanda
You're telling a Greek,what nike means....
JFCPantheras 1 year ago
@JFCPantheras
If I'm wrong, show me.
If I'm right, say so!
olabashanda 1 year ago
@olabashanda
how about neither...
endaxi?
JFCPantheras 1 year ago
@JFCPantheras
You taking your ball and going home?
You don't play well with others?
It's one simple word, with an easily verifiable definition.
Right or wrong, black or white....unless you just don't want to participate
olabashanda 1 year ago
@olabashanda
participate,why should i comment on a fact?
JFCPantheras 1 year ago
@bigboysal1 not really fair,since you know the outcome...
JFCPantheras 1 year ago
hail the ancient kelts,
dankrug 1 year ago
@kokopsyboy idiot ther are no turkic, ther are iranian people
and turks conquer grece:)
VASIOOO 1 year ago
Running 27 miles in two hours on foot?!
Those greeks are CRAZY!
SinerAthin 1 year ago
@SinerAthin But that's why we have Nike brand shoes today, so we can just do it.
Agent1W 3 months ago
@Agent1W
I just realized by miles, they meant Miles(1.6km), not Miles(10km) xD
SinerAthin 3 months ago
this really helped me with my school task...
thanks for making this video i wont be finished if this video wasn't here
Snir2896 1 year ago
What a battle!!! It needed guts to do such victory!!!
Athens- Trireme- Democracy
Sparta- Phalanx
Macedonia- Sarasa- United Greece!!!
GODDIONYSUS 1 year ago 7
What I am saying is that yes I like the Greek army of the time. I admire it as a very good and formidable force...and Greece was a very forward-thinking and great Empire. That's obvious. But I also want to say that the Perisans were the opposite. They were a joke...absolute clowns. So combine the best army against the worst and this is what you get. A handful of Greeks slaughtering a million Persians. lol
evilhamster666 2 years ago
if the persians were so bad how did they manage to form an empire that span the 2/3 of the known world back then my friend? their tactics worked i assure you. but they worked on everyone against the greeks thats the trick. they had never met anyone that fought with heavy armor before. to them massed ranks and close combat were unheard of. thats why they lost! it was like asking soccer players to play basketball with the bulls!! the greeks were the right people at the right place to stop them.
ailouros24 2 years ago 24
@ailouros24
Because they conquered sub-Saharan Africans, who to this day have never even invented a written language or the concept of a vehicle. Fighting Africans is childs-play to most forces; take for example the battle of Blood River, where 400 Dutch explorers won a battle against over 20,000 zulus and didn't lose a single man.
After having control of such huge numbers, most enemies simply bowed to them and allowed them to take over. Not the Greeks.
HektorAnasthainomai 1 year ago
@ailouros24 Your a fucking moron. "to them massed ranks and close combat were unheard of. thats why they lost" Are you retarded? The persians are the ones who had massed ranks moron, not the Greeks. Fuck you are a true minda.
Fatalerror300 3 months ago
@Fatalerror300 when i say "massed ranks" i dont mean "a lot of people crowding together" you fuckhead. I am talking about the greek phalanx, heavily armored warriors trained to fight in unison and to support each other. its called massed ranks because they stood so close (for protection) they literally rubbed elbows. the persians had A LOT of FARMERS armed with a sword and no clue as to what to do in combat. read a fucking book fool.
ailouros24 3 months ago
@terraprod:
But what I'm saying is that, yes the Greeks were a formidable fighting force...good generals etc. BUT the Persians were also very poor...so that sort of makes the Greek victories seem heroic. I;m saying yes they were very good but combine to that the sheer comedy of the Persians.
But anyway...thank God for the Greeks...they protected Europe in those times. And yes...they were very good soldiers and generals..not saying they were not.
evilhamster666 2 years ago
@terraprod:
I know the Greeks were some of the best warriors at the time and the Spartans were the best arguably of any time....but still, there comes a time when even the best cannot win. For example...today, the North Korean army is pretty poor with old equipment..but there are over a million soldiers...which poses a problem. Numbers make the strength in some cases.
evilhamster666 2 years ago
@terraprod: But if Datis kept his cavalry on the battlefield there is no chance in hell the Greeks would've won that...remember that cavalry at the time was the same as tanks today. The Phlanx would do very little against a cavalry which was free to roam and outflank. The Phalanx was slow to manouvre and couldn't with spears lowered. Anyway..at Marathon they were literally all Hoplites and not Phalanx unit so it's a moot point.
evilhamster666 2 years ago
@evilhamster666 you should check out the sun tzu art of war documentary its a mind blower
Silenz1oStampa 1 year ago
But saying all this...there was nothing superior about the Greek "army" (it was militia..all of them were civilians). If the Greeks were so superior, why did they send the guy to run to Sparta to ask for help? Please answer...
No..it's simple...the Persian generals were incredibly stupid and arrogant
evilhamster666 2 years ago
Spartans were Greek, And persians tryed to conquere greece, all the greek cities have to be united to win the persian army. Fact that happend 10 years later in the battle of thermopyle, salamis,platea,mikalis. In general the greek army was the best of his time, they had the best tactics the best generals and armor they were not just civilans as you say although every civilian knew who to fight (even great phlisopheres like plato fought) they were also thousands of greek merchanaries in the word.
terraprod 2 years ago
@terraprod:
Miltiades, yes waited to see what the Persians did, but if the cavalry never left the battlefield of Marathon, the Persians would've won whatever he did. The Greeks were heavily outnumbered. The Persians also had cavalry. The Persians would've won. So yes they waited for something...but they were not sure of what seeing they would've been slaughtered had they come down and faced them. He saw the cavalry was gone and took his chances...and it worked.
evilhamster666 2 years ago
@terraprod
Yeah explain why the Greeks were waiting on the hilltop a few days before they came down to fight. I'll tell you why..because the Greeks knew they would lose against the Persian cavalry. Now I don't know (no one does for sure) why the Persians would be stupid enough to let the cavalry leave the battlefield...but they did and this gave the Greeks a chance to turn things around. Also remember that the Greek general was an ex Persian soldier. That helped...
evilhamster666 2 years ago
Even with out cavalry it is not easy at all to win an army 3 times bigger than yours. Also the cavalry would not be able to smash easily the greek phalanx formation of the greece without extremely great loses (only alexander the great managed to do that against the sacred band of thebes in the battle of chaeronia)
terraprod 2 years ago
The Roman empire only began expanding as a direct result of losing any Greek influence in the Roman army (i.e. old-fashioned hoplite like units, civilian-militia etc) and started making a professional army based on speed and manouever. So no...you're wrong.
evilhamster666 2 years ago
War is a tactic according by a greate soul!!!
telosfd 2 years ago
And this "master sroke" at Marathon...where the Greeks run down the hill. Well isn;t that instinctive? If you have archers firing arrows at you..wouldn't you run FFS? Or dawdle down the hill and get hit?? But saying that...Persians see the Greeks up a hill...have only archers...oh wait a second, send the fucking horses off to pasture or on the boats (depending on which viewpoint you believe)...how fucking dumb is that? Datis was just another SHIT Persian general..head stuck up ass...far up it
evilhamster666 2 years ago
But lets face it...were the Greeks (including the Spartans) really that "good" or were the Persians pretty "bad"> I would go for the latter...the Persians threw away many battles which they had in their hand..usually to some pretty dumb moves (Marathon being an example...why take the cavalry out of the battlefield?)... Why did the Persians insist on 1 kind of infantry soldier...which was basically an excellent archer with a useless pointy sword...a bit 1 dimensional..don't you think?
evilhamster666 2 years ago
why kserksis then told that he wanted to continue his father's "mission"? why did they come again?
Kaisaria 2 years ago
That's the whole point...the Persians SHOULD have won against the Greeks. Any competent general would've killed off the Greeks a long time ago. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the Greeks won...I'm European, afterall. But yes, the Greek were good warriors, but also the Persians were some real dumb animals, too. The Spartans won the battle od Thermopylae because of Greek good tactics and Persian bad ones. All things being equal...the Persians would've/should've won the battle...easily. Marathon too.
evilhamster666 2 years ago
my friend if the persians threw away many battles because of their dumb moves they wouldnt have made one of the greatest empires of the world. The Greeks were simply superius, even the tactics of the roman army were based in the Greek.
terraprod 2 years ago
@terraprod:
Don't know much about history, do you? The Persians were strong when going up against small nations and when did the Persians ever go up against a strong Empire? Even the Greeks were week considering they were city-states at the time and the Persians still couldn't beat them. But saying that...tell me one strong empire the Persians vanquished. Most historians agree the Persians simply built their empire by bullying smaller ones...
evilhamster666 2 years ago
The empire of Phrygia in Minor Asia,Mydia and Baktria who had milions of soldiers an cavalry. Don;t Forget Egypt one of the richest countries then with a lot of army also and enough money to mobilize an army of thousands. The island of Cyprus and the cities of phoenicia who had the best navy at that time.The greek colonies in minor Asia also. In battle of Marathon the greeks destroyed an army three times bigger than their with only losing 100+men.
terraprod 2 years ago
terraprod@ The Persian Empire never destroyed the Egyptian Empire...seeing it was there when the Romans were around. The "empire" of Phrygia? lol...wow what an empire. And please...no Empire had "millions of soldiers and cavalry"...not even the Persians...that's your over-active imagination right there.
About the Battle of Marathon...as I said, the Persians lost because of bad tactics NOT because the Greeks were superior. If the Greeks were superior liek you said, why did they wait a few days?
evilhamster666 2 years ago
the persians had one milion in the battle of gaugamela (where the greeks won again)with the word superior i mean that the greek army had better warriors,better generals,better tactics better armor and weapons their tactic was genius , they managed to destroy an army three times bigger than them.Miltiades waited in order to see what Datis plan was, when he figured it out he found away to win them.
terraprod 2 years ago
Also 10 years later the persians re-tryed to attack greece.They lost their great navy in the battle of salamis thanks to themistocles. Learn about the final battle of the persian wars the battle of platea were according to herodotus 39.000 greeks won 600.000 persians, in this battle you can see the superiosity of the greek army.
terraprod 2 years ago
@terraprod: also...The Roman army based a PART of their EARLY army on the Greeks (i.e. the hoplites). Saying that, did the Romans adopt the phalanx? NO. And the Romans invented the famous Quincunx Formation, not the Greeks. Alsom the early Roman military units were a mixture of Etruscan and Greek military units...mostly Etruscan though. Though when the Marian reforms came into affect, the Roman army LOST ALL Greek influence, seeing the Greek empire was dying. Please read books. ;)
evilhamster666 2 years ago
@ArmyDubsta: I don't recall mentioning the phalanx...please tlel me where I mentioned the phalanx. But saying that, Greek units were based on slow, cumbersome units...the phalanx was the ultimate slow unit, but also the hoplites (spartans)...they relied on defence first and foremost and stabbing spears...hence why the Greek army was not a match for the dynamic Roman units...and ultimately the Greek empire fell...
evilhamster666 2 years ago
Four of the world's greatest ancient cities, Persepolis (burnt down by alexander), Tyre, Babylon, and Susa were wiped off the map by Alexander's barbarian invasion. Many other smaller cities in Persia disappeared as well, its inhabittants massacared and the cities burnt to the ground.
That is an infathomable amount of destruction of culture and wisdom, comparable only to the handywork of the Mongolian barbarians under Ghengis Khan.
greggysr 2 years ago
go democracy!
VideoHunter13 2 years ago
"Ευκλής" (Efklis) was the name of the person who run from the battlefield to Athens and said "νενικήκαμεν" (nenikikamen = we won). another important point is that Efklis was not a runner but a soldier who after winning the battle, run WITH HIS FULL ARMOR 42.195 m to Athens.
consor1 2 years ago
instead of guy running saying "we have won" the runner said "Nize" the goddess of victory
OrinjFlames24 2 years ago
@OrijinFlames24 I assume u want to say "Niki"= Victory and not "Nize" but nontheless he said "Nenikisamen" which in ancient greek means "We have won"
Just a friendly correction
GreekSolid 2 years ago
Yes, I second this remark by Greek solid. Everyone must learn a little more Greek before they attempt to spell/pronounce Greek words, which in fact exist in teh English language anyway. Fidipiddes most likely said 'Nenikikamen' which would be translated into We won. Now analyzing this work, you will find in its etymioogy the word 'Nike,' which means 'Victory' and which has been popularized in English by the footwear company, and which also is the name of the goddess.
SuperAndras 2 years ago
i am sorry for the stuppid question but why the runner didnt used horse 26 miles for 2 hours
Hectoraaa 2 years ago
because the army of Miltiades consisted only of infantry.
chiefofhunt 2 years ago
but surelyan army, could have a few horses, even 10. i believe a lot of facts from history are left out, or cut out. its just not logic for an army of 10,000 men, in a time when horses were used constantly, to not be able to have a single horse
ymoustahib 2 years ago
Armies don't work that way...what good would 10 horses be when they would be dead in a few seconds? Armies are about fighting UNITS, not individual men. Even the fabled Spartans were nothing unless they were in formation, the Spartan shield did not protect them but the man on their left...hence a Spartan on his own was unprotected..that was the theory, anyway.
Also, remember that you also need to train the horses for war..which would require stables etc. Greeks/Romans didn't value cavalry.
evilhamster666 2 years ago
I perceived and acknowledged your comments about the Spartans. I believe you based this on the film '300', which is Historically inaccurate in some areas. When the Spartans came out of formations, for what reason did each Spartan slaughter 50 or so Persians, each? Whilst still being outnumbered at the same time about 5:1, and you still call them defenseless without Phalanx?
ArmyDubsta 2 years ago
@ArmyDubsta: I don't think you understood what I said. You do realise 300 was not based on the battle of Marathon, right? And that YOU are basing your reasoning on the movie. Who told you they would break rank and kill 50 or so Persians...oh, the movie?
Secondly, the only reason a unit like the Spartans (which is a basic HOPLITE unit) would break ranks is to chase routing units or engage units like archers, for which the Persians had many... and where did I mention the phalanx????
evilhamster666 2 years ago
And I would disagree that horses were used "constantly". You are thinking of the middle ages. In classical times WALKING was used constantly...horses were a great luxury and only rich people with status had them. That applied to countries like Greece and Italy where horses were not native animals..not war horses, anyway. In places like Persia etc then yes horses were more common (Arabian stallion) etc
evilhamster666 2 years ago
And lastly what most people forget about this battle, or don;t even realise...is that the Persian army was a PROFESSIONAL army, but the Greek army was not...meaning the Greek army consisted of farmers and other such folk who had to buy their weapons and armor...where would a farmer get a horse? And if he did have a farm horse, it would be good for ploughing fields not charging into battle. People have misconceptions about armies in classic times comparing them to todays armies. Keyword: militia
evilhamster666 2 years ago
i wish i could see a real battle like this (from a safe distance ofcourse) :)
JFCPantheras 2 years ago 22
I wish i could fight in a real battle like this. I would be willing to give my life to do so...
elmanuelrower 1 year ago
@elmanuelrower
depends,i would already know the outcome,so sacrificing my live for a victory already gained is a bit stupid
JFCPantheras 1 year ago
@JFCPantheras
I was refering to fight on the side of Miltiades as an Athenian...For them defeat was certain but they stood and fought to defend their homeland...
elmanuelrower 1 year ago
@elmanuelrower
not really that special,loads of battle like those,it's the outcome that makes the difference
JFCPantheras 1 year ago
@JFCPantheras i wish i would av been there as a soldier :P probz die but id love 2 kill a persian :P
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olabashanda 1 year ago
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I like how the History Channel's version of history has the Persian scout wearing a turban, as though he is a "muslim" Hahahahahahahahaha!
Unfortunately the History channel is nothing more than a fictional comedy of actual history.
The uneducated jealous jews that work there get their facts from fictional Holyjude movies and video games like the old 80's version of Prince of Persia and use it to come up with their version of fictional history along with fictional costumes, maps etc.
greggysr 2 years ago
Whats even more amazing is not only that a people can be so brainwashed as the poeple of Skopje/Vardar is, but how they can be so stupid and blind. I mean, they came here like hundreds and hundreds of years AFTER Alexander's death. How in hell could he be a slav?! He spoke greek, wrote greek, worshiped greek gods and were the biggest greek patriot of allt times. He united our states to create a superpower by greek blood, and he made it
Alexandrosredwhite 2 years ago 5
It's funny to see people arguing over the the lineage of a barbarian who brought absolutely nothing good to this world.
greggysr 2 years ago
when we were spreading civilazation to the world you were canibals, idiot.you are a mixture of people who have nothing in common.you are not a nation.nowadays you bring only suffering to this world
mpGreg34 2 years ago
True, that is a very accurate assesment of Persians as the spreaders of civilization, and its also true that the bully powers today (as well as their jewish lapdogs in hollywood) are bringers of lies, misery, death and war everywhere so its not surprising that they worship a vicious barbarian figure like Alexander so much in their fictional movies..
greggysr 2 years ago
Whoever wrote that the Persians spread civilization ought to have their heads examined. They most likely are Turks who deny that the Ephesuswritings are in Greek and try to promote that they are Latin. That's warmongering, it isn't civil.
SuperAndras 2 years ago
Greggyrs tell that to the thousands of people of various tribes(and I am not talking about the Greeks) who worship him as a God and a savior even today. You should learn some history before posting nonsense about Alexander the Great being a barbarian. Its certain that if he was a barbarian he wouldnt be known as "Great" all over the world today.
GreekSolid 2 years ago
GreekSolid, you must get laught at a lot. Could you explain who exactly "worships" alexander? I can tell you it certainly not any of the victims...sure if you tell enough lies about somebody such as alexander, through fictional "historical" movies then obviously people will have false impressions about him.
To correct your stupidity, "the Great" is a suffix which was given to the Persian kings that ruled Asia at that time..alexander simply Stole the title after the Achaeminid dynasty collapsed
greggysr 2 years ago
Alexander treated his enemies as citizens and respected their customs and Gods.His soldiers and himself married native Persian women(not by force of course) and treated them as equals. Google "turkana tribe" and find by your self if there are people who worship Alexander today. In the end you should be thankfull for Alexander. Just think that if he didnt exist, the world would be probably different today.Not Hellenized but Persian-influenced. If we are not slaves today we owe it to him.
GreekSolid 2 years ago
GeekSolid, you are making a fool of yourself. Alexander crusified 6000 people in Tyre alone and took the remaining women and children along as slaves.
He forced Persian women into marriage in order to legitimize himself as more than just a another barbarian invader.
Immediately after the barbarian invasion, the Persian Empire which had been held together by the Achaeminds and Medes for centuries broke up because the greco-macedonian barbarians could not administer it.You are truly delusional!
greggysr 2 years ago
Greggysr believe what you want to believe(I am not talking about the crusifixions which were true(about 2000 people actually) but you should not judge a man with todays standards) or better yet read more Arianos. The funniest thing is calling ancient Greek-Macedonians barbarians(you should know better who is to be called a barbarian by the original term) Anyways I find it quite silly to continue this argument here on youtube so lets stop it here.I think you ll agree. Have a nice day.
GreekSolid 2 years ago
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nismo542 2 years ago
@greggysr
Oh but don't forget cuze at tyre Alexander told the insiders that if they surrender they will leave unharmed.But nooo they refused.then alexander sent some messengers to convince them again. Then again tyre insiders slaughtered the messengers on the walls by cutting their throats in front of alexander. Then of course alexander's soldiers got revenge by slaughtering them.Dont talk bullshit that you don't know you fool.
AlexThePrivate 2 years ago
still now fyrom can not see that the history is not only macedonia.... aristele s wa s alexanders teacher... alexander didnt choos e a slav techer... coz slavs didnt exist this period!!!!so he spoke greek and worship greek gods... i dont se any fyrom gods anywhere
JIMY45GR 2 years ago
How do you survive each day with such a low IQ?
nfcftw 2 years ago
How do you feel being so unsmart and brainwashed. I can't believe that a people can be brainwashed in the year of 2009. One poeple can, the people of Skopje/Vardarganska
Alexander told the crowd that he wanted to unite with HIS people by blood, the GREEKS. He wanted us to become a superpower, and he succeded.
Alexander was greek. EVeryone knows it except of Skopje who government brainwash them. You have no identity, no history. Thats why you try to steal one.
Alexandrosredwhite 2 years ago 4
like cannae on a smaller scale
whowantsabighug 2 years ago 2
but we won... so the one who wins tell the story...
liamfeb27 3 years ago
But the persian were much more organized the first human rights were written down by a persian king. Also zaratust the founder of the religion of zorotarism influed much the greek scientist like plato and aristoteles.
themessageofthebible 3 years ago
The greeks were smart. Because the persians could use their cavalary to attack the phalanx formation and thats what mardonius tried to do so in platea but because of the cavalary general killed by the greeks he couldnt and he used the infantery and all we know when its about infantery the greeks were much better.
themessageofthebible 3 years ago
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The Greek Race of this age are long gone. At the time of these battles , their racial homogeny was identical to the modern North-Europeans.
88Thyra 3 years ago
Yeah right,now go eat a hamburger you might discover America.
claudiocastellini 3 years ago 4
What most people do not count, was that the Greeks, were able to run, 200 meters, keeping their pace and lines, under the sound of military music. All this metal line fall at the enemy line when Persian arrows fall behind Greek lines. Also, honor to Plateaus! 1000 man joined the Athenians, but many people forget them :( (even the history channel)
silvervane 3 years ago
As for Persians, they gave to much credit to their archers and cavalry ,and less to their infantry (like the army's of middle age in Europe). They thought that they could engage the enemy from afar, and then use cavalry to strike from the flanks, a very good tactic. The Persian line was defended by wall of big shields.
silvervane 3 years ago
well first thing is, that the movie i watched "300" and these documentaries tell me one thing. I dont understand why persian armour was so bad made, so light, and so un protective. I really think this was the major lack of the persian armies forces but...its very hard to control a big country like Persia that time...but i still think that its not only about outnumbering, i mean if you hav a gun, and 10 pple hav knifes, in a distance you could kill all of them easily. Second) lack of strategy...
Lsmaker112 3 years ago
Most of the soldiers of Persia were farmers etc. that were given a spear and shield and told to fight. The Greek hoplites were semi-proffessional soldiers that had acess to superior armouries that produced fine weaponry and armour.
isamarine 3 years ago
were not professional army's in greece that time(except mercenerys that fought in distant lands), every Greek citizen was obliged to bear arms according to his status at the age of 18, and served his city until become 50. Middle class made the Hoplites that was the backbone of the greek army, more poorer classes, made the skirmish classes, and nobility made the cavalry (although cavalry rarely fought, anyway they were very few).
silvervane 3 years ago
I do believe as Isamarine said a lot has to be said about the scientific advancement of the warring nations. The knowledge of materials and the manipulation of the materials, in so far as the use of stronger metals, if one person is using bone/flint or copper and the other is using bronze, the one w/ bronze will break the others weapons and armor. This is a simplification of the actual difference in the materials used, yet w/ better blacksmiths/armorers will give better weapons.
001kb 3 years ago
that's nice
ExpIetiveDeleted 2 years ago
That's nice.
ExpIetiveDeleted 2 years ago
YEAH FUCK IRAN!!
422hugo 3 years ago
and get a grip,you'r 40 and commenting on history,"lol" is for chatroom discussions.
Erycantoaneta 3 years ago
so fighting in their own style for their own battlefield environment they were just as good as the greeks(until the proffessional army of the macedonians),in art(which meant technology) they were unsurpast at that time by the greeks.if the greek phalanx was so good then why was it beaten by the unknown at that time, army of Rome in 197 BC at Cynoscephalae.your thinking is as flawed as your single minded acceptance of greek supremacy
Erycantoaneta 3 years ago
watching youtube videos or quoting from wikipedia doesnt make u right "dude",and the fact that Alexander was blown away by the persian civilisation seeing Babylon,Persepolis,Susa,etc proves i'm right.the persians were advanced enough to conquer their side of the world with "sticks and stones" as u would say,but remember that this army was made out of mercenaries and men who acted on behalf of their anual duty to the state and not proffesional soldiers like those of Phillip the 2nd,or his son.
Erycantoaneta 3 years ago
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cdude333 you r kinda wrong...the persians were more advanced technologically than the greeks(so much for not using their brain argument).rome started as an extremely well organised state and fell into ruins due to decay in its values,same happened to the persians.When Assiria(original persian kingdom,before it expanded to the status of empire) was a power,greeks were little more than farmers.
Erycantoaneta 3 years ago
haha lol ok, then why did the greeks win? the persians were more technologically advanced? ever heard of a phalanx, a holpon shield? and what did the persians have? cloth armor?
dude, read up before speaking lol little more than farmers? well duh who wasnt in that time, at least the greeks also had cities.
Zanz1man 3 years ago 5
The video said it took two hours to run a marathon 26 miles..bullshit
yermomdidit 3 years ago
lol the greeks kinda pwned everything
lolex2 3 years ago 5
Its amazing how this small nation in the Balkans managed to end up conquering Persia. Massive Persia could not conquer Greece. Tiny Greece conquerd Persia. why? The Greeks used there brains in warfare as with science
cdude333 3 years ago 9
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As to paroun gia paradigma osi Ellines den esthanonte arketa peryfani na yperaspizoun tin patrida mas, apo tis psefto-katygories ton fthoneron ke oxi mono!
HeIlenezator 4 years ago 3
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Tsotsis1 3 years ago
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hahaha miserable hell_ass creatures
greetings from Makedonia to hell_ass
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Vlavson 4 years ago
Thank you slav-son being well known for our hospitality we the Hellins (known as Greeks to the barbarians) always welcomes good greetings coming from the heart even if they come from ignorant makedoninjas.
spybks 4 years ago 5
You call the Romans barbarians?
waw460 4 years ago
The word 'barbarian' is an ancient Greek word meaning the alien - stranger - non Greek person and it was not to describe if someone was savage or uncivilized as the word is used today. Just think that in 2000 years all people around the world (if any)could use the word 'tourist' the same way.
spybks 4 years ago 6
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spybks 4 years ago
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spybks 4 years ago
vlavson ta ti eba maiko
gamaolas 4 years ago
what the hell are you talking about you stupid slavobulgarian monkey?you make no sense...macedonia isn't another country,it's part of Greece!so go fuck yourself in Vard-ass-ka you pathetic piece of shit!haha!
steveharrismetalgod 3 years ago 3
"You cannot defeat the Greeks. You can only kill them"
mpirlis 4 years ago 4
ti eipes prin ena xrono re megalo tora to eida
Tsotsis1 3 years ago
Poli kalo!!1
pentalofoz 4 years ago
poly kalo...alla i simerini politeia thymithike na ftiaxei agalma pros timi tou miltiadi molis prin 2 xronia!!!!xehname grigora!!!!
blackberret 4 years ago
long lives greece!!!!
nixter888 4 years ago
pesta aderfe!
steveharrismetalgod 3 years ago
any one got more of this videos ?
RWLER 4 years ago
yes, check on my page amigo !
Spartan307 4 years ago
Now we have a new "Persian" leader who wants to rule the world. Let us pray there are those who will stand up to that madman.
MIT1369 4 years ago
You are right. But the new "persian leader" now is non persian.
mpirlis 4 years ago
yes he is and he will defeat US and their friends
persiansoldier1 4 years ago
sto mouseio twn plataiwn na pate na deite leofwro mara8wnws ..remember the fallen
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Galatsian 5 years ago
Poli kalo file
inevitablemind 5 years ago
Telio!
Hoplite4 5 years ago