This has the making of being a complete disaster, especially in this bad economy. More expensive/regulation on bullets= less bullets bought= less items bought = decreased sales of not only ammo but guns too= lost jobs in a viable sector= worse economy. Also, just like prohibition in the 1920's when there is a ban on a popular item a black market is created. This is a bad, bad, bad idea.
Just another thing to make it difficult for the GOOD GUYS! They tried this shit in My State, fortunately it was shelved! Fuck Anti's! Stay armed America!
It seems to me this would be almost impossible to enforce. It would cost too much money to the tax payers plus, encoding ammo? That is just stupid. Most libs will admit that it would be damn near impossible. Don't forget all of the gun ranges who sell their own reloads. They won't buy into this garbage. On the surface it has too many things that scream "waste of tax payer money" written all over it. Stupid scare video. Nice try. We all have our guards up. Beside pro-gun just won in DC.
I got a letter: Dear (name removed), Thank you for your thoughtful e-mail regarding ammunition serialization and second amendment right issues. I agree with your assessment and will oppose this measure and all similar efforts that may come up in the future threatening our the freedoms of law-abiding gun owners. Again, I appreciate your contacting me and your active participation in this vital public safety issue. Sincerely, Nancy Barto Representative, District 7
HB 2833 in Arizona of all places. I've already mailed all of my state legislators, my senator, and my governor about how this is just a vieled attempt to take take away our guns by first taking our ammo.
We''l just sand or grind offf the stamp. It's not that hard. Anyone with commom sense know that if a bill is made to make people "feel" better it's going to do more harm than good.
God forbid someone picks up the few rounds of brass you were unable to find at the range, and leaves them at a crime scene... I shoot about 500 rounds a month. I reload and use a shell catcher, etc... I still can't find all of them.
We can barely drive down the street or go shopping w/o being recorded. If my car gets into an accident, the car company calls me & can hear my response w/o my pressing any button. My old Nokia 6600 already has an RFID chip in it. ...Now this? It starts in America and spreads around the globe.
but, you should look into these bills in the house and senate of the federal government...
(Barack Obama supports this)
S. 2605
H.R. 5266 Gun Control Advocates Introduce 'Microstamping' Bill Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) for introduced legislation that would require gun microstamping in all fifty states."
Without the ability to sell or transfer a weapon without microstamping, older weapons would become useless in a single generation and the population would be forced to register and re-arm themselves to achieve any modicum of personal protection
Umm, do they realize that the high costs would most likely result in people making their own ammunition? Might even turn into a decent business like boot legging beer.
'Rolling you own' will become a felony just as possessing the equipment to reload. You're right, there would be an underground market and there would be people that would continue to reload (like me) for their own use. I'm hopeful this legislation will die though I think this is where we're headed long term.
They are making it harder right? The only thing I can say is that if you don't have any record on file of any kind, this won't matter in a sense, if you're a model citizen! But they're trying narrow down who, what, & why because of all these killings. But stuff like this was in the works way before anyways. Remember, they want to KEEP CONTROL OF US IN EVERY WAY!
Everyone talks "to arms ,to arms" but no one is doing it. Why? our government has become tyranical in its socialist marxist endeavors. If there was a call to arms, i would be one of the first to join.
I say again, to anybody and everybody...check into your local militia. They were first organized to protect citizens from ALL threats; foreign AND domestic. Just check 'em out. Guarantee they're pist about this.
Several prominent advocates speaking about the collapse of the U.S. warn that the arrival of the NAU will be preceded by increasing gun control laws.
The future leaders believe the idea of a change in government form and function, in the presence of an armed citizenry, may not be the most desirable course. :)
Those future leaders fear that We The People might actually stand up and defend our nation against enemies domestic, which our founders warned us about in the late 1700s.
those commi libs think they're gonna take it over don't they... he, he, he, little do they know...
ONEILLOPS 2 years ago 2
What will STOP this outrageous usurpation!? Lord I'm so fed UP with this crap.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
it's not 5 cents per round its .005 cents per round
litmus101 2 years ago
This has the making of being a complete disaster, especially in this bad economy. More expensive/regulation on bullets= less bullets bought= less items bought = decreased sales of not only ammo but guns too= lost jobs in a viable sector= worse economy. Also, just like prohibition in the 1920's when there is a ban on a popular item a black market is created. This is a bad, bad, bad idea.
ManiacMarauder01 2 years ago
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status
of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -George Washington, Jan 7, 1790
benzo430 3 years ago
they want to destory it all by 2011, lets fight back!!!!!!!!load up
HandsHeldHigh1 3 years ago
hell ya bro... lock and load!!!
ONEILLOPS 2 years ago
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ammosmith 3 years ago
Just like banning firearms, it would be impossible to completely regulate. Besides their asking for a revoloution if that happens....
tylerpomeroy 3 years ago 2
Just another thing to make it difficult for the GOOD GUYS! They tried this shit in My State, fortunately it was shelved! Fuck Anti's! Stay armed America!
GL2330 3 years ago
Just try this kind of shit in Texas and you will end up on the end of a rope.
pork4allah 3 years ago 3
in between 4 horses or strung from a tree?
xeronicus 3 years ago 2
A - fucking men sir. I dare em'
TVRf4N 2 years ago
It seems to me this would be almost impossible to enforce. It would cost too much money to the tax payers plus, encoding ammo? That is just stupid. Most libs will admit that it would be damn near impossible. Don't forget all of the gun ranges who sell their own reloads. They won't buy into this garbage. On the surface it has too many things that scream "waste of tax payer money" written all over it. Stupid scare video. Nice try. We all have our guards up. Beside pro-gun just won in DC.
tooleleven 3 years ago
Thats some fucked up shit there man!!!!What if you load your own shells????
EdmundSquid 3 years ago
it would be illegal to reload your own...
bootme21 3 years ago
That seems impossible to enforce. Just like any other prohibition is impossible to enforce in a "free" society.
EdmundSquid 3 years ago
Then i suppose i am screwed, i make my own ammo and smith my own guns.
xeronicus 3 years ago
Democrats probably coming + inflation skyrocketing = Ammo selling like hot cakes
rseveran 3 years ago
fatefinger 3 years ago
HB 2833 in Arizona of all places. I've already mailed all of my state legislators, my senator, and my governor about how this is just a vieled attempt to take take away our guns by first taking our ammo.
fatefinger 3 years ago
Ha what happens when they do the assault weapon ban again? Hillary and Obama both have talked about it..
bodyoverminds 3 years ago
S. 2605
To require certain semiautomatic pistols manufactured, imported, or sold by Federal firearms licensees to be capable of microstamping ammunition.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
February 7 (legislative day, February 6), 2008
Mr. KENNEDY introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
bootme21 3 years ago
We''l just sand or grind offf the stamp. It's not that hard. Anyone with commom sense know that if a bill is made to make people "feel" better it's going to do more harm than good.
fatefinger 3 years ago
God forbid someone picks up the few rounds of brass you were unable to find at the range, and leaves them at a crime scene... I shoot about 500 rounds a month. I reload and use a shell catcher, etc... I still can't find all of them.
CatesBoy3 3 years ago
We can barely drive down the street or go shopping w/o being recorded. If my car gets into an accident, the car company calls me & can hear my response w/o my pressing any button. My old Nokia 6600 already has an RFID chip in it. ...Now this? It starts in America and spreads around the globe.
Excellent posting. Doesn't need any commentary.
proteanview 3 years ago
This is bullsh^%!
Hebertprime 3 years ago
this bill is dead in Indiana, for now.
bootme21 3 years ago
AWSOME! because thats bullsh&*
Thats like Arnold with his microstamping bullsh*&
Hebertprime 3 years ago
but, you should look into these bills in the house and senate of the federal government...
(Barack Obama supports this)
S. 2605
H.R. 5266 Gun Control Advocates Introduce 'Microstamping' Bill Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) for introduced legislation that would require gun microstamping in all fifty states."
bootme21 3 years ago
Without the ability to sell or transfer a weapon without microstamping, older weapons would become useless in a single generation and the population would be forced to register and re-arm themselves to achieve any modicum of personal protection
bootme21 3 years ago
Umm, do they realize that the high costs would most likely result in people making their own ammunition? Might even turn into a decent business like boot legging beer.
Voidka 3 years ago
'Rolling you own' will become a felony just as possessing the equipment to reload. You're right, there would be an underground market and there would be people that would continue to reload (like me) for their own use. I'm hopeful this legislation will die though I think this is where we're headed long term.
hornshwangler 3 years ago
This bill is dead in Indiana........ for now.
NineMMAR15 3 years ago 2
Yes, it is.
bootme21 3 years ago
They are making it harder right? The only thing I can say is that if you don't have any record on file of any kind, this won't matter in a sense, if you're a model citizen! But they're trying narrow down who, what, & why because of all these killings. But stuff like this was in the works way before anyways. Remember, they want to KEEP CONTROL OF US IN EVERY WAY!
Sinosure 3 years ago
Everyone talks "to arms ,to arms" but no one is doing it. Why? our government has become tyranical in its socialist marxist endeavors. If there was a call to arms, i would be one of the first to join.
shadowsofnineveh 3 years ago
I am. And I will.
Refuse, resist, until death!
I only hope if I get killed someone takes the gun off my corpse and continues the fight.
fatefinger 3 years ago
I am. And I will.
Refuse, resist, until death!
I only hope if I get killed someone takes the gun off my corpse and continues the fight.
fatefinger 3 years ago 4
Isn't that the irony? The people who come aftr you will probably bring guns with them so ur in luck! you only need one round to gain about 45?
tucanchew32 3 years ago
I say again, to anybody and everybody...check into your local militia. They were first organized to protect citizens from ALL threats; foreign AND domestic. Just check 'em out. Guarantee they're pist about this.
dnHooligan 3 years ago 5
what a great infringement on our Rights!
this shit is getting old fast!
thanks you Chris
donna
anothervanmeter 3 years ago 3
They are sooo clever,but still they bleed like us.
Thanks for posting this.
DVincentW 3 years ago
Several prominent advocates speaking about the collapse of the U.S. warn that the arrival of the NAU will be preceded by increasing gun control laws.
The future leaders believe the idea of a change in government form and function, in the presence of an armed citizenry, may not be the most desirable course. :)
Those future leaders fear that We The People might actually stand up and defend our nation against enemies domestic, which our founders warned us about in the late 1700s.
foxmuldr 3 years ago 5
Expect more campus and public shootings. Did you know the Columbine killers were Jewish?
sirbadman 3 years ago
most interesting.
TrueScience 3 years ago
yea, I'm sure criminals wont break this law, this is just more bullshit from the gun hating left wing nazis
RangeReview 3 years ago 7
And the lawyers on both sides start to drool.
what a system. Pass a law, constitution be damned and let that law remain in effect for the ten or fifteen years it will be in the court system.
To arms to arms the government is coming.
trauts01 3 years ago 3
AMMO CODING BILLS
(coming to your state soon!)
Arizona House Bill 2833
Hawaii House Bill 2392
Illinois House Bill 4269, 4349
Indiana House Bill 1260
New York House Bill 7300
Description:
Requires ammunition manufactured or sold to be coded; requires the attorney general to maintain an electronic database of coded ammunition.
These bills are in violation of Amendment IV of the United States Constitution.
bootme21 3 years ago