Talking Heads - Live in Rome 1980 - 04 I Zimbra

[jinkblade7]

To the 5 people who downvoted this : your taste in music is obviously horrid.

[cassandrafella]

GROOVY SHIT!

[jackonfire85]

Geniali. Tra i più grandi di tutti i tempi!

[brucedburns]

It's too bad Robert Fripp couldn't have been there! Not that Adrian wasn't up to it or anything, but having both King Crimson guys there would be ridiculous. Maybe too ridiculous...

[gxtmfa]

I love the nonsense lyrics.

[earwicker]

David Byrne should open a School of Dancing for the Awkward

[NeverSaidYes]

Steve Scales is the man.

[VincentGecko]

Busta's bass starting in at 4:30 is fucking kick ass

[Arsonist75205]

5 viewers are I-literate...

[carplo111]

tpatgod2007 - words cannot describe how grateful I am to you for uploading this concert

[FigureOurYourself1]

David Bourne and Adrian Belew are like two similar fellows in two different bodies! Could both have been great frontmen for the band, Bourne the best for Talking ofcause, and Belew the best for the late King Crimson! Don´t listen too much to any of them, but i think they´re really refreshing and fun to listen to sometimes!

[vonpiro]

I have this concert on DVD, amazing!

[tugster19]

I'm sorry but frank zaapa Yield!!! to this amaziness

[jtomasik]

@tugster19 Although the Heads were a very creative, fantastic band, I really don't think either band has to "yield" to the other. I'm thankful to have both growing up, and I feel bad for what the kids have today.

[a090006]

these are the moments my nabours are happy ,this stereo doesn't go louder without broken walls!!!

[jjamo5]

yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wicked

[aluddite1]

began my love affair w/ TTH in '78. (TTC - Weymouth, etc. in '82) in '83 - the Remain in Light tour was teh shit!! (SF Civic Center) Byrne began w/ 'Psycho Killer' (acoustic guitar.)

the stage was dark, somber and slightly intimidating throughout the entire production. (Remain in Light)

it was ALL about the MUSIC - not special effects, flag waving or tutus. looks like the past 27 years have softened that edge the Heads enjoyed and shared...

truly sorry 'you' missed the real deal.

[TheJaddjamil]

u can not say that italians (the fucking!!) are were cold!!!!!!!!!

roberto

[xxBIRDY]

"I Zimbra" (from the album fear of Music) is an African-influenced disco track and includes background chanting from assistant recording engineer Julie Last; whose lyrics are based on a nonsensical poem by Dadaist writer Hugo Ball. Robert Fripp recorded the guitar part on the album.

[luisthedude]

to truthaxe and piggyalice, two things, 1. shut the f u c k up and enjoy the music, and 2. take your argument and make a video on it since it seems to be so analyzed by your comments. f u c k off or enjoy i zimbra.

[TruthAxe]

You amuse, luisthedude.

That you hold the false belief that you can order about others through YouTube shows the world your unstable mental state.

[ziprweld1]

i got to see bernie worrel in harrodsburg ky last year at the terrapin hill harvest festival with the funky meters! he is still tearin it up!

[jesusiscarl]

tina weymouth on electric guitar for this song instead of her usual bass

[drfoxcourt]

People praise Belew to the sky, and I won't say they are wrong. I saw him with King Crimson's Discipline tour and I was mentally and physically washed out by the end of the show.

That said...

Byrne was and still is a master composer and poet. He's even a good author (Bicycle Diaries).

Combined with Franz, Weymouth, and Harrison the group innovated at the top of their game throughout. They combined danceability, new age sensibility, drive, earnestness and just plain art like no one else.

[TruthAxe]

@drfoxcourt What does that mean, "new age sensibility"?

New Ageism amounts to foolery, fairy tale stuff that appeals to effeminates and hormone-imbalanced females who fall for bullshit like "spirit" and Reiki.

[TruthAxe]

Belew was the band.

These guys were hacks before him and became hacks after him.

David Byrne was the Elvis of his generation -- a guitar wearer.

Studio musicians played the hard parts, which to the band was nearly every part and touring musicians had to "back" them up.

[piggyalice]

@TruthAxe Man why you talk when you have no idea of what you're saying. If they where hacks why Belew would carry their influence all over King Crimson? Those early 80's albums from Crimson are extremely influenced by Talking Heads. Besides the comparation with Elvis is so random and irrelevant. David Byrne is a conceptual genius, guitar is just one of his toys. how old are you man? you really need to listen more music.

[TruthAxe]

You amuse, piggyalice.

Putting aside your ad hominem attack using innuendo (hinting by mentioning age), it's you who knows of what you talk.

Belew is not a member of the Talking Heads. Never was Belew a member of the TH.

NONE of the Crimson recordings are influenced by the Talking Heads.

Belew joined Zappa's touring band in '78 and then Bowie's in the same year. Belew played guitar on Bowie's Lodger.

Belew was brought in to record proper guitar on Remain in Light.

[TruthAxe]

@piggyalice After RITL and the tour, Belew joined Fripp and Crimson. The sound on Crimson is thoroughly Fripp, Levin and Bruford with Belew's long established guitar tricks.

The Talking Heads were hacks who couldn't play instruments, poseurs. They relied on studio producers and hired guns who made the music behind them.

Go listen to Gabriel's Scratch and hear Levin and Fripp on it. Then go listen to Fripp's Exposure for the new Crimson sound.

You're a listener hack, piggyalice.

[piggyalice]

@TruthAxe And do you really think NONE of the albums of King Crimson were influnced by Talking heads??? obviously you have never heard of Krimson's first 3 albums of the 80's. I mean listen to songs like "three of a perfect pair" or "elephant talk"; those (among others) are so influenced by the talking heads (especially lyricaly and vocal wise) that you have to be retarded not to get the influence.

[TruthAxe]

You and your feeble attempts at ad hominem amuse piggyalice, again!

Brian Eno produced Remain in the Light, the recording on which Adrian Belew appears.

Eno is friends with Fripp. Fripp and Eno's friendship goes back at least to 1972.

Eno worked with Fripp on No Pussyfooting where they came up with Frippertronics. Fripp influenced Eno.

Many YTers are ignorant to music history. You should quit while you're so far behind. You live in fantasy land.

T Heads were marketing band.

[piggyalice]

@TruthAxe So what's your point?? you write in a pretentious way but your arguments are just silly. so what if Eno produced Fripp? so what if Eno is a friend of Fripp? so what??? in any case, if you think the Talking Heads are a marketing band what are you doing posting stuff in their videos. someone so "ahead" in the music history like yourself (pff) should be writing a book or something. no man just kidding your a genius hahahaa

[TruthAxe]

You amuse, piggyalice.

You're a typical know-nothing Youtube dipshit. When faced with truth that conflicts with your false beliefs, like most, you suffer from cognitive dissonance.

Your first reaction is rage. You engage in ad hominem and you make excuses for your silly, false beliefs.

Without fail, when beaten, your kind makes a final gasp, "Why are you here?"

YT provides facility for posting videos and accepting comments. You're not forced to read comments, dipshit.

[TruthAxe]

@piggyalice To further show your ignorance, David Byrne read a book about Africa, an academic work, which had nothing to do with music.

Eno came up with the musical idea for the song of using polyrhythms, which is prevalent in some African music and voila, I Zimbra became a song.

Bryne isn't a genius, musical or otherwise. He was a fruity, nerdy art student who was made famous by musical business executives who hired on professional musicians in studio.

[piggyalice]

@TruthAxe Your last reaction is rage. You engage in ad hominem and you make excuses for your silly, false beliefs homie aahhaha. MAN you wrote "To further show your ignorance, David Byrne read a book about Africa, an academic work, which had nothing to do with music" hahaha MY GOD. is THAT your argument?? i mean come on!!!! OHH man i mean for real, let's just drop this thing here. If think you got your point right, ok, man, goodnight. you're a star man ;)

[TruthAxe]

You amuse, piggyalice.

Mere words have whipped you into frenzy from the beginning. My words pull your strings and you, the puppet, dance.

With each post, you dance an angry dance.

Watch THeads at CBGB's performing "Warning Sign". Tina plays bass about as well as a 10 year old. Bryne doesn't know how to play guitar. The bad performance gives testimony to truth -- the Talking Heads were little better than lip-syncing performers while real musicians backed them up.

[ryumitch1]

@TruthAxe what are you talking about? seriously? do you know that Tina only started to play bass very rescently even before this performance! so you cant say she played as well as a 10 year old, i don't see the evidence to prove your points

[piggyalice]

@TruthAxe man the concept of the polyrhythms things became when P-Funk (George Clinton Parliament-Funkdadelic) gave a show in ny in the late 70's. Of course they were blow away (like everybody else) and decided to go that direction. it's called "influence" is the eternal, universal, flow.!! i mean whaterver man, i'm tired.

[DirkStarrz]

@TruthAxe They never released an album called "Remain in the Light" - It was titled Remain in Light. IMO (which is all you and piggyalice are spewing) the Eno - Fripp - Byrne collaboration on Fear of Music is what draws a talent like Belew. As great of a guitar player as Belew is, he was not the band. I truly believe the first 4 albums by the Talking Heads were EPIC. After that they became much more mainstream. Another proof of Byrne's talent - his album with Eno - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts.

[TruthAxe]

You amuse, DirkStarrz.

Studio musicians, engineers, and producers made the T-Heads sound. The band itself were poseurs who existed for investors to get a return on their investment in WEA and its subsidary Sire.

The T-Heads were nothing more than stage and video puppets used to hawk designer plastique.

The design of the plastique changed to appeal to ever more customers -- "Cute. Cute. Little baby." and all the other THead garbage.

[MonsieurRondu]

@TruthAxe Three fucking pages OF THIS?!?!?!?

SERIOUSLY.

I don't like to get mad, but you (and DirkStarrz), BOTH OF YOU;

Plz SHUT THE FUCK UP, everyone stopped caring about you and DirkStarrz' input like 2.99998 pages ago.

go away, this is not a matter of whether the th sound was really the band itself, just about clogging regular, constructive discussion, just stfu.

[TruthAxe]

@MonsieurRondu Much time has passed since those posts were made. Yet, you've dredged them up, again.

Clearly, you care. You must care. Otherwise, you would have been strong in mind not to comment upon the comments.

Yet, you should check yourself if you believe you can order about others through comments on YT vids.

Enjoy the song. Enjoy living.

[MonsieurRondu]

@TruthAxe kthx hunny

[MonsieurRondu]

@TruthAxe but i mean justsayin it reelee doesnt matter if they were 2 weeks ago cuz they were the very last comment left on the page and even SO i couldnt read anything but bickering for like a page because YOU outflooded everyone else and were even clogging the very first page,

kthx scrub

[TruthAxe]

@MonsieurRondu And six days have passed since you last complained about posts written three weeks ago and longer.

I sense that you're lonely and in need of a friend or at least someone who is going to listen to you.

[MonsieurRondu]

@TruthAxe I think i give up but i will say youre kindof a Negative Nancy and a bit of a party pooper D:

however i think we should make a truce and be reelee good friends now cuz i think you still seem like a good egg =]

[TruthAxe]

@MonsieurRondu Meanwhile, it seems that you're the negative one. You tried to resurrect a long dead debate between two persons whom you do not know.

Next, you attempted to insult one of them (me). And then you tried to resurrect again, banter with me after many days.

Now you insult me a second time and after I tried to help you. So who is the negative one?

Enjoy Adrian Belew and all the professional musicians who makes the Talking Heads sound good here.

[MonsieurRondu]

@TruthAxe ]= why can't we be friends? arguing things seems to just take up the same space over and over again on everyone's part so i think instead of trying to prove who is wrong or right, I think we should make a pinky truce cuz pinky truces are always legit and be friends plz respond to the part about being friends instead of giving your reasons as to why i am a negative, lonely, soulless, tepid beast ] = which is true, thats for sure but we can ALSO be REELEE good friends =D

[juddyydduj]

@TruthAxe Why don't you shut the fuck up and go blog about guitars or something? Why keep up a conversation with assholes?

[TruthAxe]

Yes, @juddyydduj. Why should I keep up convo with people like you?

You're most amusing. What's it like being so deluded in mind that you believe you can order people through YouTube to keep quite?

[juddyydduj]

@TruthAxe - what I love about you is you can't spell, but deride others.

Keep quite what? You mean 'quiet'?

It's just a hint. STFU.

[TruthAxe]

Most amusing, @juddyydduj.

If you feel the need to believe that a typo reflects the inability to spell, more power to you.

Yet, mere words have enraged you. And now you look for every moment to express your rage.

Oh how you amuse.

[piggyalice]

@TruthAxe Robert Fripp played (way before Belew) on "I Zimbra" by the Talking Heads (1979) and he cites that etnic aproach as an influence. you can find in google tons of interviews of Belew and Fripp where they talk about the heads, and their importance. besides The Talking Heads are a massively respected band, nobody cares if you understand them or not. Plain and simple.

[TruthAxe]

@piggyalice What happened to your error-filled gibberish?

"@TruthAxe ppffff man what are you talking about man??

First of all I never (please go back and read again) said he was or not in the band. I don't give a f--ck if he was considered to be in the band or not, that doesn't matter one bit. It was YOU who said he "was" the band. I mean make up your make. He was the band or he was not in the band??? hahaha your so

random."

[spreadneck7]

David Bryne and his team transformed a building into an instrument. No lie....look it up.

[szeal]

Nice to see this music finally getting the attention it deserves...this is revolutionary music. Our society at large is starting to catch up to where these musicians were in 1980.

[tethystheone]

Why isn't Tina singing backup?  That other chick sounds like a hamster being tortured

[piggyalice]

@tethystheone What a stupid comment.

[SunshineInWoods]

"I tell you everybody's name"... he couldn't find an easiest expression to be understood by an Italian audience (poor us!)!! But the photography is amazing!

[boldguy54]

Bernie is amazing. But...the stylings of Belew are so distinctive. T-Head, KC, solo...Finding these videos of the '80 Rome show is like finding buried treasure!!

[boitapower]

And there are bundles of TH fans in Italy too !!!!

I 'd have loved seeeing Maestro Bernie Worrell doing a funky solo...

[RKM52925]

I didn't realize there were so many TH fans on Youtube...this is pretty cool!

[Danimalization]

yeah the brothers playing here really kick it out nice great bottom!

[nick1137]

imo this concert beats stop making sense

[iesus68]

totally agree, best line up ever.

[KRUB76]

BERNIE Worrell RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lordzhuge]

the backing woman's mic is waay too loud

[mikey71]

she ruins what is otherwise a great jam

[lordzhuge]

agreed, doing my best to ignore her the song sounds so much better

[650monza]

i think she's great

[illegalsmirf]

Don't be so racist!

[unhappytobehere]

How the hell is that racist? They're talking about her microphone, not skin color. Dispense with the bullshit, please.

[ockfener]

It's not racist in the slightest.

Maybe Byrne wanted the screeching? (I doubt it).

Maybe it sounded different onstage?  (I guess so)

[lulzlover]

yea, probably just recorded too hot. happens.

[bspikol]

Jam? That's not a jam -- it's very close to the album version.

[purpledynasty]

Nobody has mentioned the presence of Bernie Worrell on these videos - he's every bit the rock and funk legend, having performed with as varying musicians as Talking Heads. Parliament/Funkadelic and Les Claypool and his Barrell of Bernie Bucket Brigade.

[blekick]

david byrne has an excellent swagger.

[johnartmaster]

I MISS COKE.......

[JazzzRockFuzion]

Ahhhh he was a session musician and went on tour.....So by your definition, anyone who records with a band and tours with a band is NOT in that band. What a completely illogical statement. Belew wasn't fired from the Talking Heads. He very well might have continued with them if he hadn't been approached by Robert Fripp. I'd really love to know your definition of a "band member". Do you mean the main songwriter(s)? Because that means Ringo Starr was simply a session player in the Beatles too....

[ockfener]

Exactly.

Ade was as fired by Heads as Levin was by Paul Simon or Bruford by Yes a decade prior.

Some musicians just want to be in King Crimson. As a matter of fact, Ade insisted on having time for a solo career during his 80s time in KC. Facts are easy to find on this.

Don't forget the Bowie work either.

[JazzzRockFuzion]

This band was a RARE melting pot.....you have the new wave beat/vibe of David Byrne's writing.....the ethnic percussion/traditions.....the shred pyrotechnics of Adrian Belew.....MIND BLOWING!!! There may never be another band like this.

[bman10030]

Belew wasn't even in the band lol

[JazzzRockFuzion]

Actually, Belew WAS in the band- he played on the Remain In Light album and toured with them during that period, hence THIS video!

No accounting for ignorance I guess.....

[bman10030]

He was a session musician and went on tour. He still wasn't actually part of the band.

[gxtmfa]

@JazzzRockFuzion I don't being a back up musician lent by the studio really counts as being a member. Maybe that's not the case, though.

[vulgarvulcan]

great band, david byrne awesome, belew frickin amazing, and Tina Weymoth SUPER HOT

[amml1234]

saw David earlier this week in the Netherlands doing a great show, I loved it. But, to be honest, nothing beats the Talking Heads. Especcialy witj Adrian Belew.

[Lyktwz]

Thank You, Hugo Ball!

[Shadowsnshades]

I Zimbra is my favorite Talking Heads song.

[AnalogueBubblebath]

It's quite apprent that Talking Heads inspired Fripp & Co. to write Discipline. The "new wave" sound that Talking Heads introduced to the world is in full force on that album.

[KanjiHanzi]

David Byrne introduces the band. A pretty impressive cast! Look, listen and learn, youngsters!! :-)

[crimsonkng]

Belew is God.

[chibitiny]

Yes! Belew Is the man!

[suonovisione]

I was there. This tune was the top of all. Near to nirvana ...

[manbartlett]

jealous i am. very jealous.

[halcyoncoquette]

so. am. I.!

[quakerwildcat]

I did not know that was Fripp on the album! No surprise though -- always thought it was Belew sounding like Fripp. No surprise that this inspired Discipline. An amazing moment in time!

[OffWhiteCow]

This is a wicked song

[SnOrfys]

well i'm a dunce and this was written before thela hun ginjeet so I got nothing

[SnOrfys]

the opening riff to this reminds me of thela hun ginjeet, so maybe that's where the fripp comment comes from

[trollfinger]

Fripp was on this track on the album.

[cuddy62dj]

Rai doc TALKING DOC...

[carloscheesey]

the b-52's used to open for talking heads in 79 and 80. it would be brilliant if there was video of b-52's live in 70s/80s with this kind of quality, but alas...

[Kubrickfan1]

RE: Most of the comments on this post:

The International Brotherhood of Hairsplitters is never out of session on YouTube. The music speaks for itself.

[squonkamatic]

"BUSTA ... JONES?"

Just realized that even with the introductions, this version is about a minute and a half longer than the version on "The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads".

[Cayo205]

First riff courtesy of Robert Fripp ;)

[trollfinger]

All the lead in this was Fripp written was it not ?

[squonkamatic]

Fripp played just the solo part that Adrian Belew is approximating starting at 3:46 and then at the very end. Which on the album was really 3 takes edited together that he played in the studio without the band present. He was not contributing to the rhythm bed, but he did find inspiration in the composition for the polyrhythms that became the Discipline sound. Talking Heads thought the song up on their own, with words by dada poet Hugo Ball. Fripp only played the solo.

[Gammarklar]

u know whats really funny about the quote of byrne supposedly saying the timing was off on this tour with belew? belew posted in a blog recently that he thought the band started playing this song way faster live than he expected because they were all coked out of their skulls. not a direct quote but something to that effect. you can tell theyre yacked up though throughout this concert, especially tina and chris.

[trollfinger]

Twas the early 80's man. Belew did play with the tom tom club after this didn't he ? either way ! i still think its fucking brilliant

[squonkamatic]

Since they were humans setting the beat and not using a drum machine with digital timing it's not surprising to hear that the speed may have changed from night to night, or even within the song itself. I also agree with the dude below, it's brilliant any way it happened.

[pythagoruz]

No embed, wtf!

[madcyril2k6]

Bernie fucking worrell

[baardw]

line up was mabye better but the music was not

better on stop making sense this is talking heads on their best for sure!

[statnerd52]

stop makinh sense line up was way better...the vocalists were better and no adrian (i have no clue) belew....

[weareglass81]

I respectfully disagree. This tour was their zenith. Never was the same after Remain in Light..."stop makin" became the commercial crossover-good but not Remain and the incredible Fear of Music.

[truespaceball]

oh wow i disagree with statnerd as well.

a. belew rocks! talking heads is not as good without him.

[threeleggeddog1]

Wait a minute...Statnerd, did Belew bang your girlfriend or something. That would explain it.

[statnerd52]

why would a joy boy bang anyone's GF?

[threeleggeddog1]

I am at a loss about the Belew comment. So much color and energy to his playing. Either playing super clean twang bar or nasty distortion effect bombs. This band was wayyyyyyyy better with him on board.

[statnerd52]

Byrne was displeased with the lineup and the overall sync.....but what would Byrne know..right?

[threeleggeddog1]

But why get personal with the "I have no clue" slam? Byrne would never stoop to such drivel. Such disrespect to a nice guy. I have worked as a drummer for 30 years and Adrien is a class guy whom I have talked to on many occasions. He definitely has a clue.

[statnerd52]

all Byrne said after the tour (and a major reason for the break in action) was the chemistry wasn't to his liking and sometimes timing was off...what does that have to do with being a nice guy?....Byrne had clashes with other members of TH which is why there will never be a reunion...when they did put together an expanded band to record "Speaking in Tongues" they kept Worrell and Scales

[threeleggeddog1]

again... But why get personal with the "I have no clue" slam?

[statnerd52]

Ok I apologize..to each his own...and the she's must agree with the he's..oops...errr..belay that last comment

[personflesh]

I could see some off timing, but the energy is killin' in the Rome '80 vids. I think belew was ground breaking player who took chances. Stop making sense for me was uninspired in contrast- showbizy too. The first three records and live shows up to remain in the light must've been something.

[weareglass81]

Thanks to all for the replys. I failed to mention that I saw this exact show in Boston 1980 and I still smile very much when I think of that night. Belew is a monster. Think how much anticipation I had to see the guitarist of Bowie's "Red Sails" add marauding slopes of guitar over Byrne's syncopated (highly underated)nerd-scratching. Exquisite.

[SnoqualmieAppraiser]

F'n amazing. I try not to play too much TH too often, so when I do it's fresh and it kicks my ass, which it never fails to do.

[pinball630]

Brividi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dynmohum]

I am a tool of the government ...

[liecht]

and industry too...

[zeldaxbox007]

and im destined to rule and regulate you.

[liecht]

I may be vile and pernicious, but you can´t lok away

[liecht]

In fact he was the real and true Gene Guiri,the most Gene Guiri of them all.Oh Fucking Gene Guiri,have you guessed me yet?

[littlecave]

I am the slime from the video!

[liecht]

Yes,oozing out from your TV set

[davideirth]

There is probabaly a few jackdollhandler's that your not aware of. Im sure there is evan a Gene Wilder living in your street. Look him up and jam, hard core.

[srhadden]

!!!

[littlecave]

hilarious that he introduces himself

[Jbeckwith]

No, it is actually Gene Wilder.

[futureimage]

Yep, Gene Wilder DID play percussion on the original I Zimbra

[duncan4942]

lol gene wilder and hachman are both actors but if eather of tem are credited thats fucking awsome

[chrisodenkirk]

this hand drummer will do , just fine

[pbl1]

don't you mean Gene Hackman?

[sergelapelle]

They didn't film the guitar solo :(

[blink182python]

i was the first view.. amazing.

i love this song.

i wish gene wilder was playing bongos for them live :(

[jackdollhandler]

gene wilder?

that WOULD be cool, you do mean the actor? There's not another 'gene wilder' that i'm not aware of, is there?

[jbk1286]

gene wilder was credited as playing the bongos on fear of music, if i remember correctly

[bintelshalabiya]

I thought he played the congas on Life During Wartime