HKG_AB6 Rwy07L ILS Landing Heavy Rain Hong Kong

[TinnInches]

Fake. FX11 shit right there.

[fishmanMarch61]

I miss Kai Tek.

[N277WA]

Yeah, but hardman476' comment seems pretty ironic and I don't think he was serious.

[hardman476]

shitty fsx again

[fspilot1000]

@hardman476 You think thats fsx????

[N277WA]

@fspilot1000 You think he's serious????

[fspilot1000]

@N277WA  It was a joke. you would have to be really dumb to think thats not real. lol. hahahahahaha

[16striker16]

Nice Landing, A bit scary on my part ^_^

[Pattii99]

Respect for Pilots!:)

[bnmelech]

danflood94 spoke of Kai Tak. How old are ya Dan? I saw k.t. in 1963, but don't know just when they moved the airport. The k.t. landing was exciting from the back seats. Over water, then thump, but still unable to see earth from in back. Is that what you recall or did you get to see from the front?

[walekfan]

A300 is the only Airbus tjat don`t call his pilot a retard ;)

[danflood94]

I liked in memory of kai tak and a awesome landing



[Mauricio51209]

@hairysaccs

It's just you

[Keralasutra]

What is teh difference landing in rain?, there was an incident at cochin airport recently, the priliminary investigation was that it was due to inapropriate landing technique during rain that caused the flight to skid off the run away..

[hairysaccs]

is it just me or  are landings slow, it looks so fast from the passenger window

[jdwu]

@hairysaccs Due to Zoom in.

[hairysaccs]

@jdwu what is your usual ground speed landing?

[ChrizRockster]

@jdwu - and a little ground effect thrown in for good measure lol.

[MrRiot007]

@hairysaccs

That's because the landing kicks in way earlier then you think as a passenger.

[ebksb123]

@hairysaccs It IS fast, ~160 mph, 140 kph or 260 km/h. Although it is hard to imagine: remember the runway at 1:00 is about 4000 meters or 13300 feet long!

[hairysaccs]

@ebksb123 i know it is fast, it just doesnt look like it

[QeXeQ]

@ebksb123 Nice info :D, what plane it is?

[ebksb123]

@QeXeQ I think its in the description ;)

[Silentkilla0101]

@hairysaccs actually the reason they seem slow is because you are approaching not only horizontally but also vertically, so its a at an angle to the horizon.

[MickeyET7]

Proudly filmed from passenger window!

[RalphC89]

this runway is very short



[4500intelx]

@RalphC89 no it wasn't just because we ZOOMED IT REALLY HATE IT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!

[akeightley]

That's no Ka Tak!

[gfruy]

Wow... Nice video.... Any idea what the rate of descent was???

[jeffg24LT21]

im dizzy :S

[Spiritualseeker2007]

@priyonjoni What a silly question you don't think a captain of an airliner would jeopardize the safety of the aircraft and the passengers and hold a camera jeez some silly questions

[priyonjoni]

@Spiritualseeker2007 No I don't think that at all, if you read my reply to the last fellow, I was being sarcastic.

[felixfelicis888]

Lol thank god most aircraft don't have such an annoying gpws countdown voice.

[MichaelNewmann]

@priyonjoni

lmao I think any pilot who would that would get fired quite fast.

[priyonjoni]

@MichaelNewmann I know I was being sarcastic

[MichaelNewmann]

@priyonjoni sorry didn't catch that, I should have gone to sleep earlier.

[jdwu]

@priyonjoni No, I was in observer's seat.

[mrboogiemanjp]

Nice landing!!

[Section31Trinity]

Awesome

[leesrlewisj]

Well done. That's why these guys are professionals.

[lexichronicle2]

walking it onto the runway :P

[thelopespilot]

wow what a rain

[UnderMediKated]

This is not CATIII weather...

[airbusisawesome]

Settings:

Gravity: low

Engine Strength: low

Speed: slow

Braking Time: almost instant

LOL. :)

[mdo686]

Unless its Cat III conditions 90% of all landing are done by hand. The aircraft is usually flown on auto pilot until short final at which point the pilot takes control and lands the plane.

[JtotheROC]

wow, from that high the runway looks so small...

[Phil1480]

what a view... wonderful landing

[TheMingEmperor]

ya..nice landing..

[dutchbhproduction]

like hitler was in the cockpit, " 300! 200! 100! 50 40 30 20 10!!!

[AndyJensen80]

Amazing!!

[dubai1dari]

a real heavy rain

/watch?v=CHaBzAb0Wew

[Deltapilot96]

i landed there 2day.... in fsx :d nice vid!

[aish340]

nice landing,bad weather but right on track!!

[uberwagn]

@moe10000 ... Most pilots prefer to land the plane manually.. I know I do (well, I have no choice in a Cessna heh heh)

[jkiang]

@uberwagn LOL don't we all wish we can do cat3c landings in a cessna?

[cut76]

doesnt the ils land you not the pilot?

[Phyrex999]

@cut76 ILS guides you, both horizontally and vertically, to the runway. You disable autopilot at minimums and land the plane manually.

[kdes]

nice

[jdwu]

@kdes Thanks!

[MafiosoTR]

what a airport

[maynardr6]

That windshield washer is the business. I could use that on my Jetta.

[yttrack1]

Good job!

[bigfleabag]

@moe10000 True but I find today's engineering just amazing, they create planes that not only fly themselves now, but land themselves. Plus, it was a pretty smooth landing in bad weather :0

[roger82it]

i love rhis video..thx so much

[louisonthemove]

Nice landing !

[KRDSH931]

runway looks cool

[Nicolasfcl]

as a famous video game !

[TheAviationdisasters]

what's the name or code of this airport?

[johninopatin]

@TheAviationdisasters its VHHH

[SalocinTEN]

@TheAviationdisasters should be HKG

[matthiashaenni]

GREAT clip!!!

[jdwu]

@matthiashaenni Thanks!

[posseidonnnn]

How can it fly slow like here???

[iscay666]

@posseidonnnn Strong headwind maybe. A plane could practicly hover if the headwinds were strong enough ^^, I do it in FSX in a f-18 its funny.

[bigfleabag]

crap weather. great landing. :D

[jdwu]

@bigfleabag Thanks for love it!

[mmichaeldonavon]

The approach looks so steep, but if you look at the VASI (PAPi?), to the left, he is definitely "on glidepath".

[SenorSpode]

@mmichaeldonavon: Yes, it's a PAPI. Generically, they're all referred to as Visual Attitude Slope Indicators (VASIs), but then they get subdivided to Standard VASIs (2, 3, 4, 6, 12 and 16 light), PAPIs (2 and 4 light), TRCV (Tri-colur VASI) and PVASI (pulsing VASI). There's others, too, but the most common seem to be 2- and 4-light PAPIs and 4-light VASIs. Wikipedia has some good info on it all.

[overthekhyber]

@SenorSpode visual approach slope indicator

[SenorSpode]

@overthekhyber You're right. I goofed.

[trk82]

landing very slowly no need to brake

[Imyourguest]

Are you pilot?

[blckcloud15253]

He's on glideslope all the way too nice landing

[tomatoface181]

@blckcloud15253

thats how its suppose to be.. you dont play with 200 lives

[SenorSpode]

That's because the autopilot is flying the approach; most airport ILSs, including this one, have a glideslope facility. A little too good to be true, eh? But there are some pilots who are good enough to duplicate that by hand...under ideal conditions, of course.

[Ryanpusslover]

wow looks like there going so slow

[faostube]

@Ryanpusslover that would make sense since the person filming was actually zooming into the runway as they got close. totally over zoomed in the end but nice stuff still.

[snedie69er]

@Ryanpusslover

Sounds like a prop, so probably around 80KM/H

[4500intelx]

@Ryanpusslover ya because he zoomed it

[FullMetalJackSquat]

zoom out.!!

[trent8002003]

There seems to be no standard runway lead in lights pattern. Hong Kong, Taipei, Singapore all have different patterns of runway lead in lights.

[DreamboyCAT]

@trent8002003 Approach lights patters depend of the category of the runway. CAT I, II, or III runways have different patters and allow lower or no minimums for the landing.

[trent8002003]

Oh I see. But the north runway of HKIA featured here has Cat III capability. Does it mean Singapore's changi airport's runway is a less capable runway?

[raykrislianggi]

Just 1 question: How can an airplane land without hitting the lights on the runway?

[sk8drumdie0116]

the lead lights only extend about 10-15 feet off the ground (blind estimate) and most commercial airplanes are 50ft AGL when they cross the threshold or start of landable runway.

[EuroPiIot]

If you mean the centerline lights those are built into the concrete/asphalt and those can withstand an enormous amount of preassure.

[DreamboyCAT]

@raykrislianggi Lights are embedded on the runway concrete. They look like metal plates with the lights inside. They are almost flat and very resistant so airplanes can roll aver them without problems.

[Chinook249]

Check out the wipers must be on MAX lol

[CAMEROOOOOOOOPIEOOOO]

why does the runway tail lights go all fuzzy at one point? ( 0:45 )

[beehard44]

Blame it on the rain.......

Did you read the title???

[SenorSpode]

Ugh, haven't we had enough Milli Vanilli for this lifetime?

[toootooot]

nice video !!

i just wanna know how does pilot identify the runway names and numbers? and how to use ILS to land. i tried using fsx but fail.. need guidances

[littlec916]

As far as ILS...its not something easily explainable on a youtube comment. Look for videos about it. As far as runway numbers, those details are usually given to the pilots by the air traffic controllers. The pilots then refer to their airport diagrams.

[TKV3192]

just search after what u need to learn on youtube... "How to land ILS FSX" example.. That how I did

[anovo21]

Simple, set your nav frequencies, set your Course (CRS) heading and follow the lines in.. Diamond goes up and down depending on altitude and a line that tells you if your centre or off centre the localizer.. what you want in the diamond in the middle and your "line" straight, which means your on the proper ILS glide path

[lunchbag08]

You have Nav feq. you put in your com 1 or 2 then you have two needles one being a vertical (for the localizer) another being horizontal (for the glide slope) tthe both together are used for the ILS, just the vertical is used for the localizer approach. They you just get the needle straight up and down and the horizontal on right in the middle. Of course there is approach procedures you have to follow which are on approach charts. Its not easy to learn, thats why it takes time to be a pilot.

[JustAnOrdinarySimmer]

just to correct you, you put the VOR/DME/ILS Frequency in the NAV 1 or Nav 2, some planes do it automatically via the FMC

[lunchbag08]

sorry i ment NAV 1 or 2, not Com

[sealalula]

Everytime i land in hong kong its always 07L and 25R.

Check out my videos , over 200 of them !!

[clubad2000]

Yes. HKG isn't operating on mixed mode yet. So 07L/25R is assigned as landing. The only exception is when 07L/25R is undergoing maintenance and cargo planes can land on 25L/07R because of its proximity to the cargo aprons. I also understand that 25L/R are not running on independent operations either...this used to be the case but not sure whether it applies now.

[sealalula]

No wonder , i always see aircraft's landing on 07L/25R

And taking off only for 07R/25L.

I was coming in from Vancouver that day , and landed on 25R , we had to taxi all the way to gate 4 right at the other end of the terminal.

Everyone was exhausted and could'nt wait to get off the plane after 14 hours of flight !

[alnglmz]

super

[Fjallis95]

If fsx scenary would be like that i would be veary happy!

[keltic2]

Why is the weather so nasty in HKG in summer?. Always storms

[DaAfterburner]

ask a meteorologist..it has to do something with its geographical location.

[tiago105]

they say 5 ? never heard that before XD .

do they say One ? :P

[OliverKahnNr1]

They say 5 if the sink rate is extremely low. You can tell that he is flaring nicely and that the landing will be smooth. However, since that one accident where a Lufthansa A300 couldn't use reverse thrust due to a "too soft" landing (system didn't recognize touchdown), they usually land "hard" to avoid such a fatal computing error.

[KEITHRICHARDSFAN101]

Is there no way to overide the computer and use the thrust reverse manually?

[OliverKahnNr1]

No, unfortunately there isn't. The lock is on to avoid accidental activaiton of the reverse thrust in midair. Another incident was Japan Airlines Flight 350 on 09 February, 1982. On the final approach to Tokyo airport, the Captain DELIBERATELY activated reverse thrust in the inboard engines 2 and 3 and caused a stall. 24 people died. The captain was later proven to be insane. The First Officer and Flight Engineer failed to restrain him. That's why we have reverse thrust locks today.

[KEITHRICHARDSFAN101]

wow i never knew that. Thank you for explaining

[OliverKahnNr1]

No problem. It's on wikipedia. The flight numbers are Lufthansa LH 2094 and Japan Airlines JAL 350. What I forgot to tell you was this (for the LH flight).

- The weather report reported a crosswind and wind shear; it turned out to be a tailwind.

- The aircraft came in 20 knots faster than normal to compensate for the anticipated crosswind.

- They overshot the ideal touchdown point and only the right wheel had contact. - 9 seconds later the left wheel touched down, but REV. came too late.

[beehard44]

blame the weather report...

[beehard44]

lol he was INSANE!!!!!

[ArmyofSeaturtles]

yes you can override the auto throttle, but after you let go of the throttle levers it will automatically moves it to the commanded airspeed

[OliverKahnNr1]

We were talking about overriding the computer for thrust reversers that rejects deployment in mid-air. There is NO way you can override it these days if the system hasn't recognized the touch down. Overriding the TO/GA modus on an RTO is a completely different story.

[ArmyofSeaturtles]

i was talking about overriding the auto throttle not reverser

[OliverKahnNr1]

Landing with Auto Thrust during a manual landing is neither very conventional nor safe. And why would you force the throttles into thrust reversers? This being hypothetical, you cannot activate thrust reversers because the Auto Thrust was never constructed for activating that itself. Or do you have pictorial/video evidence of the Auto Thrust somehow stopping the aircraft completely by itself? -_-

[ArmyofSeaturtles]

i think you don't understand i was replying to some one asking if you can override the A/T i didnt say force to thrust reverser, there was a video on you tube showing you can override the A/T he did it during cruise not landing

[OliverKahnNr1]

I think I do. It started with my comment. 2 months ago, I was praising the crew for their overly smooth final sinkrate, however, I also stated that too soft of a touch down could cause bad traction with the ground, thus not allowing thrust reversers due to the computer override (remember, this happened 20 years ago in Warsaw, it might have changed). Keithrichardsfan101 was referring to MY comment during THIS FINAL APPROACH. Then you replied below him on my comment (referring to the landing).

[fallenxavier1989]

what are those 4 lights beside the runway? can u explain me what they are for?

[OliverKahnNr1]

PAPI lights. They communicate to the pilots if the plane is too high (3/4 white lights) or too low (3/4 red lights). A balance of 2 red and 2 white lights communicates a perfect approach.

[fallenxavier1989]

are a commercial pilot?

[OliverKahnNr1]

No, I'm afraid I'm not.

[JustAnOrdinarySimmer]

4 white too high, 4 red too low, 3/4 red or 3/4 white is ok and on the heavy jets 747 for example they would use the 3/4 white, but medium size jet say 737 would use 2 red and 2 white, IF they have either 3/4 red or 3/4 white the pilot would then adjust the throttle a little to either descend a little faster to get back on 2 red and 2 white or iff too low the pilot would increase throttle a little to hold altitude until 2 red 2 yellow. I have PPL

[Gamestar11]

what about on boeing?

[JustAnOrdinarySimmer]

in other words aircrafts normal touchdown rate is between -150 and -300 ft per min

[Renard380]

i've already heard 9 :p

[OliverKahnNr1]

In Kai Tak, where they only provided IGS (Instrument Guidance System), the GPWS only says "60, 30, 10". So the Captain was murmuring something incomprehensable - it went something like "plus five hundred" or whatever. I'm not a commercial pilot for their airline, so I don't exactly know what he meant. xD

[psycosheep4495]

this only happens in airbus' and not boeing

[CiussDj]

i hate the minimums voice in airbuses

[Renard380]

plus it tells you you're a retard couple of times :p

[Renard380]

I was joking, i know that it's not actually saying "retard". But i guess the guy who gave me a bad rating is somehow retarded since he obviously didn't get it...

[beehard44]

agree

[Renard380]

lol didn't remember that one :p

[CHCalfonzo]

Zooming gives the impression of low speed, it is an illusion. In reality the aircraft is moving much faster than it appears in the video.

[HoppyVegas]

The pilot must have to have had the aircraft almost at it's stall speed to do that approach because it looked like it was coming in extremely slow. Amazing ladning in those conditions.

[jamasama28]

The speed was rather relative since we don't know how many knots the pilot was doing or the weight of the aircraft on final. Still, with a combination of strong headwinds and the use of leading-edge slats, s/he certainly could have made a safe approach at stall speed. Nice landing.

[RobertGary1]

Approach at stall speed? I don't want to be on that flight!!!! Flying a swept wing aircraft near stall speed down low is a very, very bad idea. This isn't a Cessna.

[jamasama28]

Right, well, the stall speed is variable. For example, if you stall at 100kts under default wing configuration, you could lower slats and flaps and easily fly 100knts without stalling. Here, I still refer to 100knts as the stall speed (although it has fundamentally changed due to the new wing configuration). Regardless, I seriously doubt any commercial pilot would risk stalling on approach unless in an emergency. The aircraft landing in this video is certainly not in any danger.

[RobertGary1]

That was my only point; that this aircraft is not near stall speed. Stall speed is not reached until the mains are firmly on the ground, unlike in a Cessna.

[xterrasesc]

Beautiful!

[Laffayet]

great plane

[mattemuppen]

nice!

[pilotdrummer95]

Great landing! I really look up and aspire to pilots like you who make videos and share them with the world. One day I hope to be a pilot too! Can't wait!

pd95:)

[jdwu]

Go to get it .

[nanomusic]

that is a very smooth landing! great job! and you did it in heavy rain. 5 stars!

[jdwu]

Thanks for love it and your understanding.

[Gorrion964]

Exellent

[jdwu]

Thanks!

[qwerty3862]

does anybody no what the other runway number is at hong kong international?(cuz i now this one is 07)

[pilotkaneyboii]

well, runway 07 means it has a rough heading of 070 degrees, therefore to find out other end of the runway you either take away 180 degrees or add on 180 but remembering if you take away 180, once you get to 0 thats same as 360, so you start counting back from there

so simmply maths: 070 + 180 = 250, therefore it being runway 25. so the runway number is the first 2 numbers of the heading of the runway rounded to the closest 10 unit.

runway 250 is at an approx heading of 250 degrees.

take care

[qwerty3862]

thanks so much for taking your time to reply and write all this!

[jesuistahmid]

HK has two runways both are 7... so one is 7 R the other 7 L... so the corresponding opposite would be 25 L an 25 R respectively

[qwerty3862]

ty for replying runway 25 l and r rule!

[corsairflyfan]

It's 07 Left and 07 Right

[qwerty3862]

tyvm

[gunju221]

that altitude voice sounds so weird...

[issueagent]

So you used to fly the A300 then now the B747?

[chamilitary999]

very nice video, why above 20 fts the gpws didn't say: RETARD RETARD ?

[jdwu]

Retarding Thrust Lever to IDLE for landing.

[chamilitary999]

thanks i know that^^, i just wanna know why the GPWS didn't say retard,retard

[jdwu]

For A300 at CAT I GPWS no "Retard Retard!" at manual flight.