I wouldn't dare call this instrument 'shoddy.' It is the Cavaille-Coll of St Sulpice, one of the most famous, and finely voiced organs in the world. It would be any organist's dream to play here!
why are the keys on the upper layers going down by themselves? lol thats creepy but I can't believe anyone could play with both their feet and hands, must be tiring.
@maidwithluv It's a mechanics thing. I've never played an organ, so don't quote me on this, but I think those knobs on the sides can even choose which ones go down. Volume and other things I'm sure.
@nivarion Those Stop knobs, when pulled out, turn on the various ranks of pipes. Different types of pipes produce different kinds of sounds.
They are not "Couplers" which mechanically connect the manuals (keyboards) together. Pedal couplers enable the pedal notes to also pull manual keys. For example: Pressing the low pedal C also pulls the lowest manual key (C) down.
Muy provisimo mi Mediterranean butterfly flapping her tootsies over mon pedestals. What a medley! Deadly! Google search Mobile Audit Club for proof of robbing of the earth and explanations on how. Thinkers invited. Mobile Audit Club. Mamma Mia,
@querty0me That's actually the Barker system. It makes mechanical action organ easier to play. After all, the more stops that you have drawn, the harder it is to depress each key. At a certain point, the organist can have a difficult time with that, especially if the piece is fast.
@clemmoylan Because when you couple a manual (keyboard) onto another (keyboard) you play all the ranks (pipes) of that manual as well as the ranks belonging to the manual your fingers are actually physically playing on, so on mechanical consoles, this sometimes makes the keys move. It's not very easy to explain, and I've made a complete hash of it, sorry.
Some keyboards are able to be mechanically linked to other keyboards (manuals and pedals) by a device called a coupler. It is the decision of the organist to do this when he/she wishes to have sounds from other keyboards playing simultaneously.
Well done! For those of you who have not played a mechanical organ, i know the "click click click" tends to be annoying, but playing on an 1891 Hook and hastings Tracker organ for Sunday services I know exactly where she is coming from. And when you begin to couple more then just one manual, it requires a great deal of more strength to press all those keys. The Organist in this video impresses me that she can still articulate the notes that well, with all of those couplers on.
I agree tracker organ especially when coupled is really an exciting instrument, i love that u really feel that ure in control of this massive instrument
Thanks to the system of Barker levers (pneumatic assists) that you can plainly hear clacking away in the background (the Barker mechanism is directly behind the organist in the base of the case), the Grand Orgue of Saint-Sulpice is actually easier to play than you might think, considering its size. :-)
The pipe organ was invented by us Greeks around 500 B.C. and then improved by Hydraulis and Archimedes. It was extensively improved in Baroque period by the Germans and the British and by the end of the 19th century Americans also started making it and today they have one of the biggest and best pipe organs in the world.
Cette organiste s'exécute de façon expressive. Je crois qu'elle est co-Titulaire à St Sulpice partageant l'instrument avec Daniel Roth sur l'ancien orgue de Widor modifié en 1862 par Aristide Cavaillé-Coll. Cet instrument possède encore des jeux de Clicquot, (facteur avant Cavaillé-Coll).
I hope the action is not as hard as it seems since everything is coupled. It looks like an instrument with all thoses stops you wouldn't need to couple.
You are right about the action, but the Recit Expressif is the Swell, not the Bombarde. As such, it actually makes a great deal of sense for the swell to be coupled in this instance. Furthermore, Man. IV is the usual position for the swell (or schwellwerk, etc.) in a five manual organ.
The action does seem very hard.... willowthebored is right there shouldn't be things coupled from the bombarde manual- Bach didn't have bombarde divisions on the organs he played!
This organ doesn't have a Bombarde division. There's a solo (Man. V), but it contains several mellow stops, like the 8' Violoncelle. You certainly don't hear any overpowering bombarde-style stops (like a 16' Bombarde) anyway.
It's an old Cavaille-Coll console, I believe all of those manuals are permanently coupled to the grand-choer. Not to mention there is no Bombarde division on this thing.
her foot pedals arnt sustains at all, they are notes, the manuals(organ foot pedals) are a laid out keyboard, on very low bassy range spanning about an octave.
They're the bass notes, there are usually 32 of them, although this organ may have 30 because of the time and style in which it was built. They can be used to put a bass in the background, or to play a theme louder than the rest of the whole organ.
Yes, I'm sure. Actually, the organ in its pre-1862 state already had one Barker machine (due to Callinet, I think), and that's precisely the one Cavaillé-Coll used for the Récit. He then built new ones for all other manuals, plus an additional machine for the first manual (for the couplers), plus a machine for the stop action. That's a total of 7 Barkers (the Callinet included).
The Coll organ located in the gallery of Sulpice is indeed a tracker. What you hear, at the console, are the "O" rings pulling. Once you've played this most fabulous of instruments many times, you won't hear the trackers which are directly behind the organist. Never record the audio AT the console. Move your mics about 30 feet into the nave, one left up 40 feet, one center up 40 feet, one center up 65 feet, one right up 40 feet. Talk about an acoustical anomaly - you'll never hear the trackers.
i play a 3 manual large flentrop (largest in the uk) and it doesnt depend on how many stops are pulled out the weight of the keys is dependent on manual couplings and length of trackers. (Our organ is COMPLETELY mechanical and has no playing aids)
You guys whining about the noise of the action cant have been in the church to see it or u would know that it cant be heard from the nave.Also sounds louder on the cam than in the flesh.And because the pipes are so high above u playing out into the nave u also dont hear them as loud at the console as downstairs.This organ is fantastic. If you ever go to see one played live then go to this one.Daniel Roth the Titulaire is a perfect gentleman yet his playing is incredible.
Go find an experienced organist in your area. Check out the backgrounds of the local church organists...especially at the Protestant churches in the US. Most of them have great experience. Find a teacher who went to college for organ performance or with an organ primary though. They are the best.
If it won't be heard in church then the video should have been paired with audio from the church - child's play in this era or technical wizardry. The loud, clanky valving (is that a word?) detracts from both the beautiful music and the performance.
smb - WRONG. The wonders of the French recordings in the Tribune is being able to hear what the organist hears: indeed, hearing the Barker Machines and trackers is what makes these recordings special. If you want a silent instrument, forget Cavaille - try an allen (even if it's only a computer with an identity crisis lol).
So does anyone know what happened to Notre Dame de Paris console? It looked very similar to this (5 manual tiered console) when Cavaille-Coll rebuilt the organ, but when did they decide to scrap it and build a new one? It's too bad they got rid of that one...
the console for the notre damn organ is in the musee de notre damne in a building on the north side of the cathedral along with other interesting items such as louis viernes glasses and some origional manuscripts
The old N-D de Paris 'console en amphithéâtre' may be found in the small museum in the rue du Cloître Notre-Dame across the road (north side of cathedral).
Given that the noise of the action is not heard in the church, and the organ is functioning properly(!), I like the clatter! There's an honesty in the sound of the keys moving that can even be enjoyable to the organist. There certainly is magic in a big old mechanical-action organ like this, noise and all!
I think he was saying the Wanamaker organ sounds better than the ACCHO. Not that it sounds better than the St Sulpice organ. That may or may not be true, but that's not what he is saying.
The clatter is normal for a large mechanical-action organ that is about 150 years old. But don't worry, the listeners in the church don't hear it. Its just that the microphone is close to the mechanical parts and is sensitive to that noise. The best videos will have the microphones back in the church.
This organ has been in use since the 1860s, and it's always sounded like that. The signature Barker lever sound! It's just the pneumatic motors, like small bellows, which operate with each key press. The spurts of air entering and exiting the motor make that sound.
The congregation doesn't hear the mechanism. The organ is located in a balcony and the console is squeezeed in between the main organ and the positiv. Look at other videos of this church and see the clock in the organ facade. The organist is behind it. I very much want to go visit there someday. Maybe they'd let me play it!
If you go to the second Mass on Sundays, I believe that Daniel Roth lets people in the organ loft, and if you are an organist, he lets you play it. Don't take my word for it though.
Today you would use electric actions but I think you somehow lose this feeling of playing an instrument when everything works electrically...Thats my oppinion.
the banging sound is produced by the barker machinery that is a help for the organist to press the keys more easiely. Without, it would be nearly impossible to play with several keyboards coupled together.
Sure the sound of it may be quiet annoying but it was a great invention back then, that helped the organ builders to build even greater organs!
Its annoying in the video because the microphone is right there where the noise is. Don't worry, the listeners in the church just hear the pipes. In very quiet pieces they might be able to just hear the clattering, but they hear the pipes more.
This organ may be expensive, but considering it was built in 1862 and that much of it dates back to the 1700s, you have to figure St. Sulpice has gotten their money's worth!
I love St. Sulpice and the organists that play there. Quality of pipes, action, and accoustics are paramount, and neither Atlantic City nor Wanamaker can compare. I want to move to Paris just to attend Church every Sunday.
In response to GC's "doesn't function": Neither does any organ if you turn it off. Even a hand-pumped organ won't work if you don't pump it. Many things can prevent an organ from functioning properly, including lack of an organist! But whether the organ is fully functional or not does not change the fact that it is still the world's largest.
Since I've never had the opportunity to listen to either organ with my own ears (not recorded) and especially since the Atlantic City organ hasn't been fully operational for many decades, I cannot tell whether your statement is true or not. However, assuming you have it, I envy your experience!
Let me re-phrase. In my opinion the sound of the Wanamaker Organ at Macy's far surpasses that of the ACCHO. The ACCHO is just a bunch of world records. 100 inches of wind for a single stop? Give me a break.
I'm afraid you're not giving it a fair trial. I've heard it said by people who listened to and played the ACCH organ when it was in proper working condition that it was the most amazing thing they've ever experienced. Sure, 100" seems like a lot, but that's what it takes for one reed pipe to be heard loudly in an auditorium that size. Most of the stops though are in the 20" range, and some are even in the 4" range.
Have you considered the space it speaks into! its over 15,000,000 cubic ft of space it has to fill. It sounds at the smae volume any other organ would sound in smaller buildings.
It also has stops by cavaille coll, willis and loads of others.
You need to have a closer look. Every one who hears it says its the best thing they have heard. People who study it says its one of the best they`ve seen. Its not all loud stuff, there are some stops on 4" wind as well.
I don't like the clamor of the Barkers but try to imagine that this organ was as you see it in 1863; an innovation of that time.
mrstevecbournias 2 months ago
Pull out all the Stops on it... or Keys to the Shaft of the Abyss. Tee Hee
passionsean 6 months ago
This is a mechanical instrument - hence the clickerty-clack noise as the parts move.
The congregation would hear none of the noise as the organ is some 70-80ft off the ground.
meknight77 9 months ago
I wouldn't dare call this instrument 'shoddy.' It is the Cavaille-Coll of St Sulpice, one of the most famous, and finely voiced organs in the world. It would be any organist's dream to play here!
diapason93 10 months ago
@diapason93 I agree 100%!!!!! it would be amazing to get be able to play this organ.
quinn244 2 months ago
A fine performance on a shody instrument. I feel bad for the organist.
rollsroyce59 10 months ago
how can a human do that!!
sirAlexanderthegrape 1 year ago
Is this a French Cavaille-Coll organ, or one of their rebuilds?
NJPurling 1 year ago
I LOVE the Barker action, It makes me feel like I'm at a giant typewriter.
CantusMaximus 1 year ago
Just think if it weren't for the barker levers on the organ how heavy the action would be if you had 4 keyboards coupled to one!
organist45 1 year ago
It's supposed to do that...notice the keys going down on their own from the other stops?
furley523 1 year ago
Umm...it's supposed to do that.
furley523 1 year ago
Sus pies en los pedales (salvo por esos horribles botines) son espectacularmente sexys
lamepiemujer 1 year ago
why are the keys on the upper layers going down by themselves? lol thats creepy but I can't believe anyone could play with both their feet and hands, must be tiring.
maidwithluv 1 year ago
@maidwithluv It's a mechanics thing. I've never played an organ, so don't quote me on this, but I think those knobs on the sides can even choose which ones go down. Volume and other things I'm sure.
nivarion 1 year ago
@nivarion Those Stop knobs, when pulled out, turn on the various ranks of pipes. Different types of pipes produce different kinds of sounds.
They are not "Couplers" which mechanically connect the manuals (keyboards) together. Pedal couplers enable the pedal notes to also pull manual keys. For example: Pressing the low pedal C also pulls the lowest manual key (C) down.
robertgift 1 year ago
I myself love key click and mechanical noises.
Zylstra555 1 year ago
Muy provisimo mi Mediterranean butterfly flapping her tootsies over mon pedestals. What a medley! Deadly! Google search Mobile Audit Club for proof of robbing of the earth and explanations on how. Thinkers invited. Mobile Audit Club. Mamma Mia,
saintrambone 1 year ago
What a mess...
silverstartrucker 1 year ago
Actually it's a nice sound; the clacking of the barker action. it's an integral part of the pipe organ experience for me.
Contratrombone64 1 year ago
Sophie-Véronique Cauchefer-Choplin is the organist here and she's one of the world's best.
acorntechnique 1 year ago
this looks extremely difficult, borderline impossible.
Yoyocita2 1 year ago
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tonyleeson1 2 years ago
I love how you can hear all the air lines opening and closing.
querty0me 2 years ago
@querty0me That's actually the Barker system. It makes mechanical action organ easier to play. After all, the more stops that you have drawn, the harder it is to depress each key. At a certain point, the organist can have a difficult time with that, especially if the piece is fast.
speaks3703 1 year ago
It is Bach?
mereudesertaciune 2 years ago
@mereudesertaciune
Yes, it is BWV 537.
Ntalikeris666 1 year ago
why are there keys playing themselves
clemmoylan 2 years ago
@clemmoylan Because when you couple a manual (keyboard) onto another (keyboard) you play all the ranks (pipes) of that manual as well as the ranks belonging to the manual your fingers are actually physically playing on, so on mechanical consoles, this sometimes makes the keys move. It's not very easy to explain, and I've made a complete hash of it, sorry.
TomTheConductor 2 years ago
@TomTheConductor No, you explained it very clearly. Everyone with a brain understood what you wrote.
tasteism 2 years ago
Some keyboards are able to be mechanically linked to other keyboards (manuals and pedals) by a device called a coupler. It is the decision of the organist to do this when he/she wishes to have sounds from other keyboards playing simultaneously.
fjsmusic 2 years ago
is so emotional for my
DeeJayMontevideo 2 years ago
wow so amazing looks HARD to play
dungeonfleet 2 years ago
Well done! For those of you who have not played a mechanical organ, i know the "click click click" tends to be annoying, but playing on an 1891 Hook and hastings Tracker organ for Sunday services I know exactly where she is coming from. And when you begin to couple more then just one manual, it requires a great deal of more strength to press all those keys. The Organist in this video impresses me that she can still articulate the notes that well, with all of those couplers on.
tubamagna16 2 years ago
I agree tracker organ especially when coupled is really an exciting instrument, i love that u really feel that ure in control of this massive instrument
donanobispacem1003 2 years ago
It's easy because of the Machine Barker...
VonDuesenberg 2 years ago
Thanks to the system of Barker levers (pneumatic assists) that you can plainly hear clacking away in the background (the Barker mechanism is directly behind the organist in the base of the case), the Grand Orgue of Saint-Sulpice is actually easier to play than you might think, considering its size. :-)
posaune16 2 years ago
A regular mechanical action organ shouldn't make that much noise unless you're really pounding. This is just noisy because of the barker mechanism...
menschmaschine5 1 year ago
All I hear are the pedals and keys...
KisukeFreak 2 years ago
three pedals is enough for me thanks!!! (i dont even use the practice one >.>)
ay0nman 2 years ago
OMG! those Barkers!! eeeeeew!
aidavdbrake 2 years ago
wow! who the hell invented pipe organ instruments?? he's a god!
1stuy 2 years ago
some greek guy
bachspirit 2 years ago
The pipe organ was invented by us Greeks around 500 B.C. and then improved by Hydraulis and Archimedes. It was extensively improved in Baroque period by the Germans and the British and by the end of the 19th century Americans also started making it and today they have one of the biggest and best pipe organs in the world.
koroush7 2 years ago
bua du des klapprat i dära kischta:)
Adlbaerg 2 years ago
Oh my darling! The lovely sound of clicking mechanical action keys!
Helkaluin 2 years ago 2
Barker levers.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
Cette organiste s'exécute de façon expressive. Je crois qu'elle est co-Titulaire à St Sulpice partageant l'instrument avec Daniel Roth sur l'ancien orgue de Widor modifié en 1862 par Aristide Cavaillé-Coll. Cet instrument possède encore des jeux de Clicquot, (facteur avant Cavaillé-Coll).
Un des meilleur instrument en France.
klodg 2 years ago
I hope the action is not as hard as it seems since everything is coupled. It looks like an instrument with all thoses stops you wouldn't need to couple.
davlber 3 years ago
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willowthebored 3 years ago
You are right about the action, but the Recit Expressif is the Swell, not the Bombarde. As such, it actually makes a great deal of sense for the swell to be coupled in this instance. Furthermore, Man. IV is the usual position for the swell (or schwellwerk, etc.) in a five manual organ.
speaks3703 2 years ago
The action does seem very hard.... willowthebored is right there shouldn't be things coupled from the bombarde manual- Bach didn't have bombarde divisions on the organs he played!
organist99x 2 years ago
This organ doesn't have a Bombarde division. There's a solo (Man. V), but it contains several mellow stops, like the 8' Violoncelle. You certainly don't hear any overpowering bombarde-style stops (like a 16' Bombarde) anyway.
speaks3703 2 years ago
It's an old Cavaille-Coll console, I believe all of those manuals are permanently coupled to the grand-choer. Not to mention there is no Bombarde division on this thing.
menschmaschine5 1 year ago
@menschmaschine5
No, you are wrong. There manuals are not permanently coupled. This "thing" no other than the cavaille coll of St.Sulpice.
is one of the best romantic pipe organs out there.
Ntalikeris666 1 year ago
@Ntalikeris666 I'm well aware it's a great instrument. Calling it a thing was not meant to be degrading, so don't get your panties in a bunch.
menschmaschine5 1 year ago
@menschmaschine5 Ah, ok. It just did not sound that right.
Ntalikeris666 1 year ago
Nice Lady with manny Technicks.
Wath is wite the Pedals?
19521205 3 years ago
regarding the noise of the mechanism, I assume it's the sound of Barker Levers?
wurlitzer3 3 years ago
She cracks that little smile; she stuck that one! 5 stars for this lovely organist and a smidgen of envy for getting to play that instrument.
accousticdecay 3 years ago
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willowthebored 3 years ago
no , its a Bach fugue in c minor , bwv xyz :)
Menrathorgan 3 years ago
Expensive? I don't think you can put a price on Du Grande Orgue de Saint Sulpice, love :D
willowthebored 3 years ago
her foot pedals arnt sustains at all, they are notes, the manuals(organ foot pedals) are a laid out keyboard, on very low bassy range spanning about an octave.
akm5176 3 years ago
are those pedals just sustain pedals..or something more complicated than that?
granpastreetz 3 years ago
They're the bass notes, there are usually 32 of them, although this organ may have 30 because of the time and style in which it was built. They can be used to put a bass in the background, or to play a theme louder than the rest of the whole organ.
codeman2008 3 years ago
what is that banging noise donsnt that throw you off.
Ravenswood34 3 years ago
its the keys working which are connected to the pipes, because this Organ is pneumatic and not electronic the keys make a lot of noise.
BeFrSc 2 years ago
Well, the recit is mechanical, I think!
tjugofyra 2 years ago
All manuals have the same action: mechanical with Barker machine.
chwidder 2 years ago
Are you 100 % sure?
I'm not sure about that!
tjugofyra 2 years ago
Yes, I'm sure. Actually, the organ in its pre-1862 state already had one Barker machine (due to Callinet, I think), and that's precisely the one Cavaillé-Coll used for the Récit. He then built new ones for all other manuals, plus an additional machine for the first manual (for the couplers), plus a machine for the stop action. That's a total of 7 Barkers (the Callinet included).
chwidder 2 years ago
now play popcorn lol
mixstreet 3 years ago
By-the-by, Sophie is fabulous!
ahmelmahe 3 years ago
The Coll organ located in the gallery of Sulpice is indeed a tracker. What you hear, at the console, are the "O" rings pulling. Once you've played this most fabulous of instruments many times, you won't hear the trackers which are directly behind the organist. Never record the audio AT the console. Move your mics about 30 feet into the nave, one left up 40 feet, one center up 40 feet, one center up 65 feet, one right up 40 feet. Talk about an acoustical anomaly - you'll never hear the trackers.
ahmelmahe 3 years ago
This is a Cavaille-Coll organ, (or a cavaille-Coll rebuild of earlier material)?
I thought they used pneumatic action. It sounds like the keys and pedals are opening air valves.
NJPurling 3 years ago
Hearing the tracker noise is exciting in itself. Playing on tracker vs. electro-pneumatic give a much more satisfying feel for the organist
gpbri 3 years ago
agree.
ChristophMC 3 years ago
I've never played a tracker instrument of such magnitude. Does it require great effort when using a large registration?
fordtruxdad 3 years ago
i play a 3 manual large flentrop (largest in the uk) and it doesnt depend on how many stops are pulled out the weight of the keys is dependent on manual couplings and length of trackers. (Our organ is COMPLETELY mechanical and has no playing aids)
organstudent 3 years ago
I would love to play this organ!
pipeman126 3 years ago
You guys whining about the noise of the action cant have been in the church to see it or u would know that it cant be heard from the nave.Also sounds louder on the cam than in the flesh.And because the pipes are so high above u playing out into the nave u also dont hear them as loud at the console as downstairs.This organ is fantastic. If you ever go to see one played live then go to this one.Daniel Roth the Titulaire is a perfect gentleman yet his playing is incredible.
simonsteam 3 years ago 2
where does one take organ lessons?
longliveMD11 3 years ago 2
Go find an experienced organist in your area. Check out the backgrounds of the local church organists...especially at the Protestant churches in the US. Most of them have great experience. Find a teacher who went to college for organ performance or with an organ primary though. They are the best.
edolch 3 years ago
my favorite video is when that french dude plays widor's allegro from like symphony 5 or somethin on that organ. it sounds sooo good. post the video.
riverscuomo06 3 years ago
Never heard valves that loud! But it adds to the performance, in a weird eerie kind of way, I like it.
MacGear14 3 years ago
och :)
Junker1917 3 years ago
music is great but it sounds like the organ is going to fall apart or something...
tyuru2 3 years ago 7
that's a classic sound from the builder's work, its the pneumatic valves working.
BeFrSc 3 years ago
Oh my gosh those trackers are SOO loud!
Brandotuomikoski 3 years ago 14
And?
You won't hear it in the church...
rjijmker 3 years ago
I think you can hear the barker levels in the "church", but of course not as loud as you here them on the organ loft!
tjugofyra 3 years ago
@Brandotuomikoski thats the bst part
User846 1 year ago
@Brandotuomikoski whatre trackers?
DoubleMannings 9 months ago
That's the way!
Brilliant playing.
deopromusic 3 years ago
If it won't be heard in church then the video should have been paired with audio from the church - child's play in this era or technical wizardry. The loud, clanky valving (is that a word?) detracts from both the beautiful music and the performance.
smb12321 3 years ago
smb - WRONG. The wonders of the French recordings in the Tribune is being able to hear what the organist hears: indeed, hearing the Barker Machines and trackers is what makes these recordings special. If you want a silent instrument, forget Cavaille - try an allen (even if it's only a computer with an identity crisis lol).
marsvltor2 3 years ago
Absolutely perfect! Beautifil technique and registration!
I love you!!!!!
remineur 4 years ago
I love she`s style !!!!!!!..............
AlexOrganMusic 4 years ago
I think rhis fugue.....it`s the most wonderful who rote Bach.....and he played abolutely perfect !-Good organ-good player!
AlexOrganMusic 4 years ago
it is absolutely captivating music
Blazingmad 4 years ago
I'm just fascinated to hear the organ as the organist hears it. You'd never get this sound from a commercial recording.
wurlitzer3 4 years ago 2
Brilliant confident playing and cool outfit and smile at the end!
Johntheorganist 4 years ago
So does anyone know what happened to Notre Dame de Paris console? It looked very similar to this (5 manual tiered console) when Cavaille-Coll rebuilt the organ, but when did they decide to scrap it and build a new one? It's too bad they got rid of that one...
Arky83mi 4 years ago
the console for the notre damn organ is in the musee de notre damne in a building on the north side of the cathedral along with other interesting items such as louis viernes glasses and some origional manuscripts
simonsteam 4 years ago
The old N-D de Paris 'console en amphithéâtre' may be found in the small museum in the rue du Cloître Notre-Dame across the road (north side of cathedral).
tormus1 4 years ago
Given that the noise of the action is not heard in the church, and the organ is functioning properly(!), I like the clatter! There's an honesty in the sound of the keys moving that can even be enjoyable to the organist. There certainly is magic in a big old mechanical-action organ like this, noise and all!
virginiaorganbuilder 4 years ago
I think he was saying the Wanamaker organ sounds better than the ACCHO. Not that it sounds better than the St Sulpice organ. That may or may not be true, but that's not what he is saying.
andyofvermont75 4 years ago
Now how can anyone say that the wanamaker is better than the A.C when both of them dont fully operate.
The midmer losh hasnt worked properly since the 1940`s so there are very few, if any people who have heard it all working.
acchos 4 years ago
the clatter under her feet is not of her fault. Performanc is absolutely brillant. Organ maker should do something.
djv14 4 years ago
The clatter is not under her feet only, but under her fingers as well.
This is the Saint-Sulpice's Cavaillé-Coll organ, one of the biggest instruments in France.
The noise may be due to improper positioning of the microphone(s), too close to the mechanical features of the action.
I have been to Saint Sulpice many times (including last December). There is no such an audible clatter, even when you stay close to the bench.
Congratulations to the organist for the C minor Fugue BWV 537.
GilbertoGuarino 4 years ago
You're absolutely right. The camera with the built-in microphone (I assume) is near the performer.
Congratulations to the organist for the Fugue from me too.
djv14 4 years ago
What are you talking about?
GrandeChoeur 4 years ago
Beautiful piece and registration too.
aricmm 4 years ago
she looked almost relieved as she finished.
lovely piece and well played though.
BUT what a clatter !!! perhaps she should have worn rubber shoes !!!
gaybaronet 4 years ago
The clatter is normal for a large mechanical-action organ that is about 150 years old. But don't worry, the listeners in the church don't hear it. Its just that the microphone is close to the mechanical parts and is sensitive to that noise. The best videos will have the microphones back in the church.
andyofvermont75 4 years ago
sounds like the organ is about to break?
thecatwith9wives 4 years ago
This organ has been in use since the 1860s, and it's always sounded like that. The signature Barker lever sound! It's just the pneumatic motors, like small bellows, which operate with each key press. The spurts of air entering and exiting the motor make that sound.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
that must of been hard but it ws cool
jalomy 4 years ago
The congregation doesn't hear the mechanism. The organ is located in a balcony and the console is squeezeed in between the main organ and the positiv. Look at other videos of this church and see the clock in the organ facade. The organist is behind it. I very much want to go visit there someday. Maybe they'd let me play it!
accousticdecay 4 years ago
If you go to the second Mass on Sundays, I believe that Daniel Roth lets people in the organ loft, and if you are an organist, he lets you play it. Don't take my word for it though.
GrandeChoeur 4 years ago
Today you would use electric actions but I think you somehow lose this feeling of playing an instrument when everything works electrically...Thats my oppinion.
DAOFB 4 years ago
the banging sound is produced by the barker machinery that is a help for the organist to press the keys more easiely. Without, it would be nearly impossible to play with several keyboards coupled together.
Sure the sound of it may be quiet annoying but it was a great invention back then, that helped the organ builders to build even greater organs!
DAOFB 4 years ago
what is that banging sound?? it's very annoying
northumberlandgirl 4 years ago
Its annoying in the video because the microphone is right there where the noise is. Don't worry, the listeners in the church just hear the pipes. In very quiet pieces they might be able to just hear the clattering, but they hear the pipes more.
andyofvermont75 4 years ago
This organ may be expensive, but considering it was built in 1862 and that much of it dates back to the 1700s, you have to figure St. Sulpice has gotten their money's worth!
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
I love St. Sulpice and the organists that play there. Quality of pipes, action, and accoustics are paramount, and neither Atlantic City nor Wanamaker can compare. I want to move to Paris just to attend Church every Sunday.
accousticdecay 4 years ago
This is Sophie-Veronique Cauchefer-Choplin playing the fugue from Bach's Fantasy and Fugue in c minor, BWV 537.
HeatherMHdma 4 years ago
meglio se suonato su un organo barocco, bachiano
giufighter 4 years ago
the pipe organ is the largest instrument you can get.
It is the most diverse instrument there is, it creates the deepest and highest sounds, the loudest and quitest.
This organ is a cavaille Coll organ, it is in ST.Sulpice in paris and has 100 stops. It is one of the best ever made.
The largest organ built is the Atlantic city convention hall organ, it has 33,114 pipes (most organs may have 1,000) and 1235 stops.
acchos 4 years ago
You forgot to mention that the Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ doesn't function.
GrandeChoeur 4 years ago
It does, just not enough to get a tune out of it. Its restoration has started though.
acchos 4 years ago
Its still teh largest though.
It does work, just not enough to play it.
Its restoration has started as well as the kimballs.
acchos 4 years ago
In response to GC's "doesn't function": Neither does any organ if you turn it off. Even a hand-pumped organ won't work if you don't pump it. Many things can prevent an organ from functioning properly, including lack of an organist! But whether the organ is fully functional or not does not change the fact that it is still the world's largest.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
The Wanamaker Organ sounds better.
GrandeChoeur 4 years ago
Since I've never had the opportunity to listen to either organ with my own ears (not recorded) and especially since the Atlantic City organ hasn't been fully operational for many decades, I cannot tell whether your statement is true or not. However, assuming you have it, I envy your experience!
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
Let me re-phrase. In my opinion the sound of the Wanamaker Organ at Macy's far surpasses that of the ACCHO. The ACCHO is just a bunch of world records. 100 inches of wind for a single stop? Give me a break.
GrandeChoeur 4 years ago
I'm afraid you're not giving it a fair trial. I've heard it said by people who listened to and played the ACCH organ when it was in proper working condition that it was the most amazing thing they've ever experienced. Sure, 100" seems like a lot, but that's what it takes for one reed pipe to be heard loudly in an auditorium that size. Most of the stops though are in the 20" range, and some are even in the 4" range.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
Have you considered the space it speaks into! its over 15,000,000 cubic ft of space it has to fill. It sounds at the smae volume any other organ would sound in smaller buildings.
It also has stops by cavaille coll, willis and loads of others.
You need to have a closer look. Every one who hears it says its the best thing they have heard. People who study it says its one of the best they`ve seen. Its not all loud stuff, there are some stops on 4" wind as well.
acchos 4 years ago