Monza is one of the last surviving classic GP circuits and now the fastest of them all on the calendar. It's despite the chicanes still a very dangerous circuit but as a motorsport fan I love it.
Compare this to the Von Tripp video and note how little the track had changed (ie. had not changed at all really in this part, only difference is they were not using the high speed banked part anymore)
@chikozo1 He never secured the crotch straps on his six-point harness, only wearing a simple lap belt. When he struck the wall, he slid into the cockpit, where the metal attachment sliced his neck open.
@chikozo1 Back in the bad old days of F1, just spinning or hitting the wall was enough to kill the drivers. Without proper safety harnesses or the HANS device, the g-force applied to the head and neck in a spin or collision was just too much for any human to endure.
@VoidSkipper There were a lot of things that contributed to Rindt's fatal crash....Brake Line Failure...an AMCO Barrier not properly fastened (the car slid under it,and struck a vertical support...tearing the car in half). Finally, and I hate to say this......"Safety Equipment Negligence" on the part of Rindt...as, he was not wearing his crotch strap...causing him to "submarine" upon impact. It was with this...Jochen Rindt became the first ever POSTHUMOUS World F1 Champion.
Das Tragische daran ist ja, dass er den Crash überlebt hätte. Er hatte wenige Runden vorher eine Panne am Auto vermutet, ist stehen geblieben ausgestiegen und als er nix gefunden hatte, weitergefahren. Beim Einsteigen hat vermutlich vergessen, sich anzuschnallen. Man sagt aber auch, dass JR den Gurt nicht angelegt hat, weil er Angst hatte, im Falle eines Feuers nicht rechtzeitig aus dem Wagen zu kommen...R.I.P. =(
WATCH THIS VIDEO FOR AMATEUR FOOTAGE OF THE FAMOUS F1 SPA 1998 PILE-UP AT THE START: /watch?v=oKGvy-6yl-g WE JUST CONVERTED THE TAPE TO DVD AND THEN PUT IT ON THE COMPUTER SO IT HASN'T BEEN UPLOADED BEFORE.. RATE AND COMMENT TO GET A SUB #FTW :)
@McLarenMercedes Jochen was actually german but bought up by his grandparents in austria after his parents were killed n a bombing raid during the war.
His fate was that he was unlucky to slip underneath the crash barrier with his car which killed him immediately. Very great loss and he is also not forgotten like many others. Yep those were days of very risky races - look at the cars and compare them with today's ones...
What killed him was his failure to put his seatbelt on. The crash was caused by mechanical failure, and the Armco hadn't been installed properly. However he died because of throat injuries inflicted by the seat belt; he didn't fasten the crutch straps and essentially slid down the car. Had he put the seatbelt on properly, he would have broke his ankles badly, but lived
The crash was due to mech failure of the suspension. For comparison look at the (i think) Red Bull wreck during practice when the cars front tires snapped off under heavy breaking. It still happens today.
@LordApocalypse7 the front bulkhead was torn off the car togeather with the suspension and steering.
Now allegedly JR refused to were the crotch straps of his seat harness, he was forced down into the cockpit with his feet tangled up with the pedals, and in the process, his throat was cut by the harness.
I was born in 1970 but love watching the old f1 footage. Saying that it's hard to watch these with the complete lack of safety concerns. If I was a driver no way would I race that day , I would rather pay respect to one of the greats, but its was a different time and maybe he would like the race to continue. Thank you Jochen for your talent.
@pionier111 naja, ich würde sagen, er ist zusammen mit clark der beste. Beide hatten das Problem des deffektanfälligen Lotus, ansonsten waren sie eine Klasse für sich
Jochen was one of the last drivers to wear seatbelts (harness), but he only wore the lap belt part of the harness without the crotch strap (wearing that would have stopped him from submarining under the belt and he would have still bee alive today if he did) and he was choked/partially decapitated by the buckle
At 0:51 you can see the driver's legs being catapulted around the wreckage, probably still held by the harness but external to the car itself. I don't know the physics specifics of downforce etc. but F1 cars in those days seemed way over powered in relation to their comparitively primitive safety; the margins for error were very thin indeed.
two bolts on the cage of the car rusted and failed. and the barrier didnt hold up.
he was testing the lotus 72 without wings to see if it would go faster with less drag, so downforce was effected. the inboard brakes failed and the tyres were too grippy for the car and caused it to flex on corners.
The most incredible: in the previous day, Emerson Fittipaldi was using Rindt's car, to "smooth" it. But Fittipaldi crashed it. So, Chapman decided that Rindt would use Fittipaldi's car, because he (Rindt) was running for the world title. The car had a problem and Rindt died, instead of Fittipaldi. Two races later, in the US GP, Fittipaldi won the race and helped Rindt to won a "post death" world championship.
damn those old f1 days. even no sign of security. bath tubes with lots of hp and torque and ready to burn fuel. spectators on the track. and on the towers. I saw videos of bridges collapsing on the track. I ve seen marshalls hit by cars crossing the road to help a driver trying to get out of the car. I ve seen pilots burnt to the death. I ve seen drivers stopping their cars in the middle of the road to help getting a (probably already dead by the hit) driver out of his car.
@amokachi31 Well said, but statistically, and in every from of motor racing, the 1950's and early 60's were even worse! The cars had gotten very fast, but the tracks, the tires, and the safety standards and equipment lagged far behind.
@JGMagoo yes but my only point was towards safety. I didnt say anything about performance. and the drivers? I can say that it was maybe 100 times harder to drive those cars comparing them to todays modern cars. they were extremely talented (as much as todays drivers) but they were braver than todays heros. from a point of view old races may look more mannish but my point of view says safety first and human life first.
Plese can somebody explain to me what happened, cause I see tha F1 car taking a wide right turn, and than, BAM hitting the fence, witch is on the left side, of a right turn,,,
" There's no one in F1 who's not arrogant. Nowadays or in the past " No, it just wasn't like that in the 60s. The social aspect of formula 1 doesn't exist any more but did back then. Drivers had genuine friendship & proper regard & affection for each other. The plain fact is that the sport didn't have a high enough profile to be full of prima donnas back then anyway. If U were old enough to remember the era or the drivers U wouldn't think that. Neither are they all arrogant today really.
"watch a few races" another stupid statement. See the response I made above. The same wager is available to you if you choose. So many of you young guys are just all mouth. Why do you resent people who actually know a little about the subject ? I'm not the only one and I certainly don't present myself as an expert. I just comment on what I remember of the era. Some through my experience in the industry, but mostly just my own observations as an enthusiast like other real enthusiasts.
I'm not going to apologise to a kid for knowing some F1 history. It's not my fault if U don't. As an engineer, I worked for Broadspeed & March engineering & on my own racing cars. My specialist area was metallurgy, having migrated from the aerospace industry when the opportunity first arose with a short stint at Hewland engineering. and... " you didnt know the man! " That's just a stupid statement. I live in Australia too now, so I bet U $5000 I DID know Chapman. Are we on ?
Also, Jochen had just recently started wearing a simple lap belt (seat belt). In the wreck, he submarined under the belt and the belts buckle cut his throat.
I know a lot about this accident. The Lotus 72 that Rindt was driving had an inboard brake shaft fail. That is undisputed, proven in the investigation of the car afterwards. What is mysterious is why Rindt did not use the sand runoff the bring the car to a stop. Rindts car instead pitched into the barriers, way before the sandtrap. The 72 was running without nose foils and a rear wing, which made the car faster but extremely unstable. Most experts agree Rindt lost control due to instability.
Rindt had just passed Denny Hulme in the McLaren when this accident happened. Hulme later said that Rindt's car was weaving very badly when it passed him. Rindt's teammate Miles was afraid to drive his 72 without wings, claiming it would be way too unstable. He was on the track when Rindt died and only drove a couple of laps without the wings. He later said that it was the worst car he had ever driven, and it really frightened him to drive that car without the front and rear wings.
U're completely correct. Don't know why people dispute long established facts. At the time, he was a complete passenger after the shaft failure. ( I think many don't understand the design or significance of the brake shaft carrying the load from the wheel to the inboard setup. The result of failure is obvious & Jochen's nature at at the" wheel, was ."...correct ? Give me a call if interest incliude Nat - seer u sson anyway.
sorry for the jibberish - I hit the button accidentally and the last part of reply was to 9000 . The My point is clear though, . Dediciitution makes great competitors. Good night
What ? Who started name calling here ? "typical mouthy Austrlalian" & talking about how U swing from guys' nutsacks or whatever. U actually free to roam or did someone leave a gate unlocked ? "wiki is edited by some of the best brains in the world" LMAO - what an uninformed statement - & phrased in such a childish, brainwashed naive way, too. Facts are as I stated. I can actually put U in contact with Nina Rindt if U want to tell her she's remembering it all wrong too. What a wiki fool U R
I presented the facts little man. What's your dispute ? I assume you actually have no real evidence to the contrary ? ( I know you don't of course ) So I'll take this as a backdown from a big mouth. You're a stupid clown. The facts are well known to real F1 enthusiasts who are old enough to remember them. So, only a moron would say "read wiki if you want the facts" You must be the only one in the world who still thinks wiki is reliable. Come back when you know what you're talking about.
Well, firstly, DON'T read wiki if you want the facts. That's a myth that circulates among youngsters. I assure you that my account of it is true. Rather that reading Wiki, I recommend living through it closely. You know where Wiki reports come from right ? Secondly " Not tue" - that's a bit vague. You need to tell me what you are refuting. If you want to tell me what you think isn't true, I will tell you how I know it to be true. Don't be a Wiki boy, please. ( for your own sake ! )
There's a little more to the story. It may have been said earlier of course. The 72 had inboard front brakes here. The 72 followed the basic design of the 4WD 63 which Andretti drove and crashed and which Lotus collector John Dawson Damer was killed in at goodwood a few years back. The inboard brakes are an advantage in reducing unsprung weight and therefore increasing suspension frequency. The breakage was of one of the shafts which carry the braking load into the inboard brake setup.
If a shaft breaks while the other side still had 100% braking power, the car will inevitably turn. The shaft was broken but there was suggestion of question whether it broke while running or on impact. I don't buy it because it could onbiously be established on examination. It must be said that Jochen did decide to go out without wings, but also that he never wanted to use the 72 at Monza. He had told Chapman they needed to use the 49.
Chapman agreed, but when Jochen got to Monza he found there was no 49 - just the 72s. When he asked Chapman about the agreement to run the 49, Chapman just said he'd decided to run the 72s. When Jochen said he didn't think it was wise (which it wasn't ), Chapman told him in his typical arrogant way that he could drive the 72 or go home and not worry about the race. ( this to the guy who has just won you the championship ) So, he effectively had two hands in the accident as far as I'm concerned.
He was certainly a very talented engineer with inate ability, but a flawed character. The main failings of the cars were caused by his obsession with light weight. He commonly employed the very worse tactic. Engineer light, then build up until it doesn't break any more. He was no doubt a very arrogant character too. I admire his achievements but I have little regard for him as a man.
No, that's not really the case at all. Chapman's extremely cavalier attitude was all his own. Any engineer can and does make mistakes but Chapman had an almost calous disregard for driver safety. Jim Clark and he were very very close, but toward the end, Clark was getting really fed up with it. He confided in fellow drivers that he didn't know what was going to break on the car next.
Clark had mentioned thoughts of retirement to closer friends. Shortly before his death he had another big "off" in F2 car after a breakage. He was unhurt, but the marshals reported that the normally relaxed, unflappable Clark was livid. When Chapman arrived at the scene, Clark said, ( without attempting to hide it from the marshals ) "look, Colin, let's get something straight - if you're going to keep building them like this you can start driving them yourself again too"
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This announcer is an annoying hippie. He has to get poetic about this guys death, Just say he passed away and move on. "THE NORMAL CONTINUAM OF HUMAN EVENTS HAS A BEGINING AND AN END". I hope this announcer died in a fiery accident somewhere.
Miles????? The modern world uses the Metric System. Three nations have not officially adopted the International System of Units as their primary or sole system of measurement: Liberia, Burma and the United States.
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Its obvious. Many other drivers have been killed intentionally by there own team due to the mafia , due to political or monetary influence, or just for other reasons. Similarities between Ayrton and Rindt...........come to me. Both killed.
That is jochen rindt's death, he was the only world champion to not survive his championship year and was widely tipped to be the 'Senna' of the 70s until this moment.
What was even more heartbreaking: it is said that Jochen told his wife Nina that this would be his last year in F1 and that he would retire. His prophecy came true in the most horrific way imaginable. RIP Jochen Rindt. Definitely every bit as good as Niki Lauda.
yes,he was world champion on the end of the season.Jacky Ickx could have been world champion but he didn't do so out of respect for Jochen.That is what you call a gentleman and sportsman.Something that's missing in the sport today.
That's not true. Ferrari had big tire trouble at Watkins Glen in the last race and could do nothing to stop Fittipaldi from winning and securing the title for Rindt. Of course Jochen and his Lotus were so dominant that it would be unfair to be beaten at the last moment.
Soon after the crash, the TV shots clearly shows Hunt trying to help to get Ronnie out of his car. However the scene I more vividly recall from my childhood is a very quick shot of the face of Ronnie soon after he was extracted from the cars. He looks conscient, despite shocked and suffering from the fractures to his legs. Everybody was convinced he would have survived and most of the worries were about Brambilla, an italian driver who looked like having suffered the worst injuies from the crash
According to both Tony Rudd and Jackie Stewart he died because he wasn't wearing crotch straps therefore slid down on impact and cut his throat on the chest belt buckle.
I think you are thinking of Ronnie Peterson, who suffered badly broken legs in a crash just after the start of the 1978 Italian GP. Overnight, some of the bone marrow got into his bloodstream and caused a fat embolism, pretty much like a blood clot, which shut down his organs.
Yes I can perfectly remember Ronnie. He was rescued with severe injuries to the legs, but I vividly remember that first news did not say his life was endangered,so his death came as a surprise. There was an error in the race start from the race director (too early start) that caused a mess in the first bend. Probably the McLaren of Hunt skidded causing the crash
To be more precise,sorry for my english,the root cause was the braking system that probably collapsed. Specifically,the evidence was about a suppor of the disk brake that was literally cut in two because (probably) of the stress caused by the absence of wings.
Looks like he had the 6 anchor belts, but that also collapsed.He suffered a cardiac arrest with the impact so that,despite the severe injuries,there was no blood loss.He died immediately,not because lack/untimeliness of assistance
he was scared to die,if a fire broke out, so he didn´t used the seatbelt..
TDirlewangerbra 2 months ago
The sad part is. He would of never been able to celebrate his world championship victory.
RIP Jochen Rindt.
RoryBrice123 2 months ago
Monza is one of the last surviving classic GP circuits and now the fastest of them all on the calendar. It's despite the chicanes still a very dangerous circuit but as a motorsport fan I love it.
kzbxvz 2 months ago
Compare this to the Von Tripp video and note how little the track had changed (ie. had not changed at all really in this part, only difference is they were not using the high speed banked part anymore)
Zoomer30 4 months ago
Rindt was crowned World champion that very weekend. Unbelievably sad.
azapro911 4 months ago
@azapro911 he wasnt champion until after the us grand prix
pioujd427 2 months ago
@pioujd427 It's still heartbreakingly awful.
azapro911 2 months ago
Didn't they stop the race after the fatal crash?
andersonleite166 4 months ago
@andersonleite166 The accident was in qualifying or practice.
jgmagoo1 4 months ago
This clip exists in many places. Whatever happened to what must have been film of him being lifted from the car ?
ysgol3 4 months ago
Gee, ever think you watch an F1 race hoping for the best driver in the world (Jochen Rindt at the time) and he died?
My God, the public reaction was the same as mine ...
Jochen Rindt that GOD has it.
FeSantista4ever 5 months ago
@FeSantista4ever Notice that all the greats died due to car failure, not driver error?
Jim Clark: Tyre Failure
Jochen Rindt: Break line failure
Ayrton Senna: Steering column failure
VoidSkipper 3 months ago 3
@VoidSkipper
You're right, they did not die due to carelessness, but by the failure of the cars ...
oh, sorry for my bad English, I am Brazilian
FeSantista4ever 3 months ago
did the car flip? if it didnt i dont understand how the crash killed he just span and span did something hit is head i dont know?
chikozo1 5 months ago
@chikozo1 He never secured the crotch straps on his six-point harness, only wearing a simple lap belt. When he struck the wall, he slid into the cockpit, where the metal attachment sliced his neck open.
slhoffman8 4 months ago
@chikozo1 Back in the bad old days of F1, just spinning or hitting the wall was enough to kill the drivers. Without proper safety harnesses or the HANS device, the g-force applied to the head and neck in a spin or collision was just too much for any human to endure.
VoidSkipper 3 months ago
@VoidSkipper There were a lot of things that contributed to Rindt's fatal crash....Brake Line Failure...an AMCO Barrier not properly fastened (the car slid under it,and struck a vertical support...tearing the car in half). Finally, and I hate to say this......"Safety Equipment Negligence" on the part of Rindt...as, he was not wearing his crotch strap...causing him to "submarine" upon impact. It was with this...Jochen Rindt became the first ever POSTHUMOUS World F1 Champion.
thevmanvj 3 months ago
The only posthumous series driver's point champion in motorsports history.
RIP JR.
TheAntihero6212 5 months ago 4
@TheAntihero6212 what about richie evans???
rwb043 4 months ago
Das Tragische daran ist ja, dass er den Crash überlebt hätte. Er hatte wenige Runden vorher eine Panne am Auto vermutet, ist stehen geblieben ausgestiegen und als er nix gefunden hatte, weitergefahren. Beim Einsteigen hat vermutlich vergessen, sich anzuschnallen. Man sagt aber auch, dass JR den Gurt nicht angelegt hat, weil er Angst hatte, im Falle eines Feuers nicht rechtzeitig aus dem Wagen zu kommen...R.I.P. =(
Schrecklassnach38 6 months ago
It was so sad, he won the championship that year :(
blinkyth3fish 6 months ago
RIP
lefgeo 6 months ago
XD
titouan35420 6 months ago
This footage ain't rare..it's quite common.
gonace 6 months ago
es gibt leute die mögen sowas , bei solchen anblicken wie sein unfall das is ja brutal R-I.P.
birneFT 7 months ago
He is the only driver to posthumously win the Formula One World Drivers' Championship....
LuisAntonioRC 7 months ago
does anyone know what the cause of death actually was?
Scaura90 7 months ago
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renyclaire 7 months ago
WATCH THIS VIDEO FOR AMATEUR FOOTAGE OF THE FAMOUS F1 SPA 1998 PILE-UP AT THE START: /watch?v=oKGvy-6yl-g WE JUST CONVERTED THE TAPE TO DVD AND THEN PUT IT ON THE COMPUTER SO IT HASN'T BEEN UPLOADED BEFORE.. RATE AND COMMENT TO GET A SUB #FTW :)
zzifGirzz 7 months ago
D: R.I.P
PESOLI100 8 months ago
Ich glaube das!
luckystiff5 8 months ago
Ich glaube das!
luckystiff5 8 months ago
this just shows how much F1 safety has moved on. had it been a crash like this today, the driver probably could have just walked away
bullet50000 8 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Jochen was actually german but bought up by his grandparents in austria after his parents were killed n a bombing raid during the war.
loonietune83 8 months ago
i saw some of these cars today in the monreal grand prix
GotBallzzzz 9 months ago
Not as many jokes as your wife made when she saw the incredible similarity between your penis and a mouses....
chambreski 10 months ago
well he did quit
chambreski 10 months ago
@chambreski Did you also make jokes about the Japanese tsunami death toll?
KinetiK138 10 months ago
His fate was that he was unlucky to slip underneath the crash barrier with his car which killed him immediately. Very great loss and he is also not forgotten like many others. Yep those were days of very risky races - look at the cars and compare them with today's ones...
TheBigHase 10 months ago
@TheBigHase
What killed him was his failure to put his seatbelt on. The crash was caused by mechanical failure, and the Armco hadn't been installed properly. However he died because of throat injuries inflicted by the seat belt; he didn't fasten the crutch straps and essentially slid down the car. Had he put the seatbelt on properly, he would have broke his ankles badly, but lived
RJM1983 8 months ago
The crash was due to mech failure of the suspension. For comparison look at the (i think) Red Bull wreck during practice when the cars front tires snapped off under heavy breaking. It still happens today.
Zoomer30 10 months ago
My God Enzo Ferrari was there!!! Such a pity about Jochen Rindt
renzojvd 10 months ago
Happy birthday Jochen. R.I.P Today is 18th April..
FERRARIAVI 10 months ago
A very good german docu about the german F1 Racinglegend Jochen Rindt:
/watch?v=o3NXOVUGIj4&feature=feedu
Rockeydooky 1 year ago
@Rockeydooky
RIndt was Austrian, like Niki Lauda and Gerhard Berger.
McLarenMercedes 10 months ago
This man must have had some balls!
thegreatbasher 1 year ago
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spiralz46 11 months ago
Rindt had a finnish girlfriend, so she got the pocal after that season ended, and she was also first finnish who have got F1 Champion Pocal
NakkiapinaFTW 1 year ago
What exactly killed him here?... I only see a car going off track and then sand everywhere.
LordApocalypse7 1 year ago
@LordApocalypse7 The cars in that time werent that safe like the ones today..
And you can see, the car is totally torn apart.
TimKaaarl 1 year ago
@TimKaaarl Yeah but the driver is still inside? Except for his legs, that is. It's pretty common to see cars going offroad like this in F1 races.
LordApocalypse7 1 year ago
@LordApocalypse7 the front bulkhead was torn off the car togeather with the suspension and steering.
Now allegedly JR refused to were the crotch straps of his seat harness, he was forced down into the cockpit with his feet tangled up with the pedals, and in the process, his throat was cut by the harness.
flipsidedogchop 1 year ago
Such a Poignant story. Perhaps one of the saddest deaths in motorsports. Simply due to the background behind it.
SaintBEEP 1 year ago
it supposed to be fittipaldi running on that car
isrj01 1 year ago
War Jochen Rindt nicht der erste und bisher einzige, der posthum F.1-Weltmeister geworden ist?
pedowife4kids 1 year ago
@pedowife4kids
Jep
Sorayn 1 year ago
Ironic taht Rindt's hero growing up was Wolfgang Von-Trips. and he died in the same corner as him
SaintBEEP 1 year ago
i watched this i was 5 yrs old i remember this i asked my self why they make a big drama now i understand why... uniqe...
joecool3535 1 year ago
40 years ;( [*]
wln666 1 year ago 34
I was born in 1970 but love watching the old f1 footage. Saying that it's hard to watch these with the complete lack of safety concerns. If I was a driver no way would I race that day , I would rather pay respect to one of the greats, but its was a different time and maybe he would like the race to continue. Thank you Jochen for your talent.
runforitscooby 1 year ago
Jochen lebt weiter
Hasi1974 1 year ago
40years is jochen rindt dead!!! jochen we miss you
punrockboy 1 year ago
Er war und ist der beste F1 fahrer aller zeiten,niemand hatte seitdem so ein talent wie er !! (sagte mal Ecelstone)
pionier111 1 year ago 15
@pionier111 das sagte er bestimmt bevor schumi 7 mal weltmeister wurde ;-)
HESSENKING 9 months ago
@HESSENKING
eben nicht..
zuletzt sagte er dies voriges jahr zum gedenken an jochen..!
pionier111 9 months ago
@pionier111
ecclestone ist ein witzbold, so einen darf man nicht zitieren der hat keine ahnung vom rennsport. das einzige was zählt sind resultate
lordsaddler89 6 months ago
@lordsaddler89 das Einzige, was bei Bernie zählt ist die Knete xD
Schrecklassnach38 6 months ago 3
@pionier111 naja, ich würde sagen, er ist zusammen mit clark der beste. Beide hatten das Problem des deffektanfälligen Lotus, ansonsten waren sie eine Klasse für sich
Bech2go 1 month ago
NiallatUTube:
Jochen was one of the last drivers to wear seatbelts (harness), but he only wore the lap belt part of the harness without the crotch strap (wearing that would have stopped him from submarining under the belt and he would have still bee alive today if he did) and he was choked/partially decapitated by the buckle
MaccasWell 1 year ago 2
rare accident
thijsisf1fan 1 year ago
At 0:51 you can see the driver's legs being catapulted around the wreckage, probably still held by the harness but external to the car itself. I don't know the physics specifics of downforce etc. but F1 cars in those days seemed way over powered in relation to their comparitively primitive safety; the margins for error were very thin indeed.
NiallatUTube 1 year ago
lots of things happened to cause this!
two bolts on the cage of the car rusted and failed. and the barrier didnt hold up.
he was testing the lotus 72 without wings to see if it would go faster with less drag, so downforce was effected. the inboard brakes failed and the tyres were too grippy for the car and caused it to flex on corners.
neosio 1 year ago
@neosio Two bolts failed due to corrosion? On a recently and meticulously built race car? I don't believe that for one second.
1RadNomad 1 year ago 2
Rindt was running the Lotus 72 without the rear aerofoil that day, which probably contributed to it losing control.
Rhubba 1 year ago
Why are all those people on the track?
Vintage for sure Great stuff
KC8YOQ 1 year ago
oh.... what is the name of the song at 2:05.. does anybody know?
EspooF1 1 year ago
I am from Brazil and Fittipaldi told this story in a interview in a Brazilian talk show some days ago. He cried while telling it.
OtavioBravo 1 year ago 2
The most incredible: in the previous day, Emerson Fittipaldi was using Rindt's car, to "smooth" it. But Fittipaldi crashed it. So, Chapman decided that Rindt would use Fittipaldi's car, because he (Rindt) was running for the world title. The car had a problem and Rindt died, instead of Fittipaldi. Two races later, in the US GP, Fittipaldi won the race and helped Rindt to won a "post death" world championship.
OtavioBravo 1 year ago 3
Short before he said to Colin Chapman, the Teamonstructor of Lotus:
"If something of the car breaks again and I survive it, I will kill you.......!"
Pfeffi1972 1 year ago
damn those old f1 days. even no sign of security. bath tubes with lots of hp and torque and ready to burn fuel. spectators on the track. and on the towers. I saw videos of bridges collapsing on the track. I ve seen marshalls hit by cars crossing the road to help a driver trying to get out of the car. I ve seen pilots burnt to the death. I ve seen drivers stopping their cars in the middle of the road to help getting a (probably already dead by the hit) driver out of his car.
damn those old days.
amokachi31 1 year ago
@amokachi31 Well said, but statistically, and in every from of motor racing, the 1950's and early 60's were even worse! The cars had gotten very fast, but the tracks, the tires, and the safety standards and equipment lagged far behind.
JGMagoo 1 year ago
@JGMagoo yes but my only point was towards safety. I didnt say anything about performance. and the drivers? I can say that it was maybe 100 times harder to drive those cars comparing them to todays modern cars. they were extremely talented (as much as todays drivers) but they were braver than todays heros. from a point of view old races may look more mannish but my point of view says safety first and human life first.
amokachi31 1 year ago
Plese can somebody explain to me what happened, cause I see tha F1 car taking a wide right turn, and than, BAM hitting the fence, witch is on the left side, of a right turn,,,
Ilko2007 1 year ago
39 years later..he will remember as the driver who got killed in a unfortunate moment
MrHumerousify 2 years ago
@MrHumerousify 40 years.
SCHIZOPHRENlC 1 year ago
2000 year later idiot
MrHumerousify 1 year ago
@MrHumerousify hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha.. fucking moron.
SCHIZOPHRENlC 1 year ago
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hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha.. fucking moron.
MrHumerousify 1 year ago
" There's no one in F1 who's not arrogant. Nowadays or in the past " No, it just wasn't like that in the 60s. The social aspect of formula 1 doesn't exist any more but did back then. Drivers had genuine friendship & proper regard & affection for each other. The plain fact is that the sport didn't have a high enough profile to be full of prima donnas back then anyway. If U were old enough to remember the era or the drivers U wouldn't think that. Neither are they all arrogant today really.
gcmc2 2 years ago 2
who are you gcmc2, colin chapmans biographer? you didnt know the man!
flipsidedogchop 2 years ago
No kidding..... watch a few races and I guess it turns you into a journalist....
richardwhat 2 years ago
"watch a few races" another stupid statement. See the response I made above. The same wager is available to you if you choose. So many of you young guys are just all mouth. Why do you resent people who actually know a little about the subject ? I'm not the only one and I certainly don't present myself as an expert. I just comment on what I remember of the era. Some through my experience in the industry, but mostly just my own observations as an enthusiast like other real enthusiasts.
gcmc2 2 years ago 2
@richardwhat So.... I guess that's a "NO - I was just mouthing off like a silly kid" ? ........ I'm still available otherwise.
gcmc2 2 years ago
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I'm not going to apologise to a kid for knowing some F1 history. It's not my fault if U don't. As an engineer, I worked for Broadspeed & March engineering & on my own racing cars. My specialist area was metallurgy, having migrated from the aerospace industry when the opportunity first arose with a short stint at Hewland engineering. and... " you didnt know the man! " That's just a stupid statement. I live in Australia too now, so I bet U $5000 I DID know Chapman. Are we on ?
gcmc2 2 years ago
Also, Jochen had just recently started wearing a simple lap belt (seat belt). In the wreck, he submarined under the belt and the belts buckle cut his throat.
squirrelnutz7 2 years ago
i think that rindt drove his car without wings and that mad car unstable...
i read it in f1 book of mine... cheers mates!
davorsertic 2 years ago
Jochen Rindt den besten de wir je hatten R.I.F. Ruhe in Frieden
Austria4ever1000 2 years ago
I know a lot about this accident. The Lotus 72 that Rindt was driving had an inboard brake shaft fail. That is undisputed, proven in the investigation of the car afterwards. What is mysterious is why Rindt did not use the sand runoff the bring the car to a stop. Rindts car instead pitched into the barriers, way before the sandtrap. The 72 was running without nose foils and a rear wing, which made the car faster but extremely unstable. Most experts agree Rindt lost control due to instability.
Troylito 2 years ago
Rindt had just passed Denny Hulme in the McLaren when this accident happened. Hulme later said that Rindt's car was weaving very badly when it passed him. Rindt's teammate Miles was afraid to drive his 72 without wings, claiming it would be way too unstable. He was on the track when Rindt died and only drove a couple of laps without the wings. He later said that it was the worst car he had ever driven, and it really frightened him to drive that car without the front and rear wings.
Troylito 2 years ago
U're completely correct. Don't know why people dispute long established facts. At the time, he was a complete passenger after the shaft failure. ( I think many don't understand the design or significance of the brake shaft carrying the load from the wheel to the inboard setup. The result of failure is obvious & Jochen's nature at at the" wheel, was ."...correct ? Give me a call if interest incliude Nat - seer u sson anyway.
gcmc2 2 years ago
sorry for the jibberish - I hit the button accidentally and the last part of reply was to 9000 . The My point is clear though, . Dediciitution makes great competitors. Good night
gcmc2 2 years ago
What ? Who started name calling here ? "typical mouthy Austrlalian" & talking about how U swing from guys' nutsacks or whatever. U actually free to roam or did someone leave a gate unlocked ? "wiki is edited by some of the best brains in the world" LMAO - what an uninformed statement - & phrased in such a childish, brainwashed naive way, too. Facts are as I stated. I can actually put U in contact with Nina Rindt if U want to tell her she's remembering it all wrong too. What a wiki fool U R
gcmc2 2 years ago
I presented the facts little man. What's your dispute ? I assume you actually have no real evidence to the contrary ? ( I know you don't of course ) So I'll take this as a backdown from a big mouth. You're a stupid clown. The facts are well known to real F1 enthusiasts who are old enough to remember them. So, only a moron would say "read wiki if you want the facts" You must be the only one in the world who still thinks wiki is reliable. Come back when you know what you're talking about.
gcmc2 2 years ago
Well, firstly, DON'T read wiki if you want the facts. That's a myth that circulates among youngsters. I assure you that my account of it is true. Rather that reading Wiki, I recommend living through it closely. You know where Wiki reports come from right ? Secondly " Not tue" - that's a bit vague. You need to tell me what you are refuting. If you want to tell me what you think isn't true, I will tell you how I know it to be true. Don't be a Wiki boy, please. ( for your own sake ! )
gcmc2 2 years ago 2
he crashed and died at the same corner as his hero, wolfgang von trips. so sad :(
puhyd 2 years ago 2
what exactly happened? every video i see shows the same thing. one car racing and then the crash
cehamlet89 2 years ago 2
There's a little more to the story. It may have been said earlier of course. The 72 had inboard front brakes here. The 72 followed the basic design of the 4WD 63 which Andretti drove and crashed and which Lotus collector John Dawson Damer was killed in at goodwood a few years back. The inboard brakes are an advantage in reducing unsprung weight and therefore increasing suspension frequency. The breakage was of one of the shafts which carry the braking load into the inboard brake setup.
gcmc2 2 years ago
If a shaft breaks while the other side still had 100% braking power, the car will inevitably turn. The shaft was broken but there was suggestion of question whether it broke while running or on impact. I don't buy it because it could onbiously be established on examination. It must be said that Jochen did decide to go out without wings, but also that he never wanted to use the 72 at Monza. He had told Chapman they needed to use the 49.
gcmc2 2 years ago
Chapman agreed, but when Jochen got to Monza he found there was no 49 - just the 72s. When he asked Chapman about the agreement to run the 49, Chapman just said he'd decided to run the 72s. When Jochen said he didn't think it was wise (which it wasn't ), Chapman told him in his typical arrogant way that he could drive the 72 or go home and not worry about the race. ( this to the guy who has just won you the championship ) So, he effectively had two hands in the accident as far as I'm concerned.
gcmc2 2 years ago
From what I have read from drivers that drove for Chapman, he was an assclown.
LesPaulCustom79 2 years ago
He was certainly a very talented engineer with inate ability, but a flawed character. The main failings of the cars were caused by his obsession with light weight. He commonly employed the very worse tactic. Engineer light, then build up until it doesn't break any more. He was no doubt a very arrogant character too. I admire his achievements but I have little regard for him as a man.
gcmc2 2 years ago
Guess that's true, but please consider the times also.
In those days everyone constructed cars in that manner, maybe he employed it more than others, but still everone did it like that.
hoogestefan 2 years ago
No, that's not really the case at all. Chapman's extremely cavalier attitude was all his own. Any engineer can and does make mistakes but Chapman had an almost calous disregard for driver safety. Jim Clark and he were very very close, but toward the end, Clark was getting really fed up with it. He confided in fellow drivers that he didn't know what was going to break on the car next.
gcmc2 2 years ago
Clark had mentioned thoughts of retirement to closer friends. Shortly before his death he had another big "off" in F2 car after a breakage. He was unhurt, but the marshals reported that the normally relaxed, unflappable Clark was livid. When Chapman arrived at the scene, Clark said, ( without attempting to hide it from the marshals ) "look, Colin, let's get something straight - if you're going to keep building them like this you can start driving them yourself again too"
gcmc2 2 years ago
Sad for me to see Im a close relative. I'm too young to have seen it but a death in the family is sad.
Planexpert90 2 years ago
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This announcer is an annoying hippie. He has to get poetic about this guys death, Just say he passed away and move on. "THE NORMAL CONTINUAM OF HUMAN EVENTS HAS A BEGINING AND AN END". I hope this announcer died in a fiery accident somewhere.
tossingmidgetsforfun 2 years ago
Shame. Rindt had promised his girlfriend to quit racing at the end of the season, if he won the championship.
fearbeforefearbefore 2 years ago 85
actually, he promised her to quit racing when he becomes the champion. Given the circumstances, I'm sure she'd rather see him keep racing.
bostjan42 2 years ago 3
Nina was actually his wife. They were married in 1965 I think and had a young daughter.
gcmc2 2 years ago
The daughter's name is Natasha and is now a fully qualified pilot.
rotterdam1953 2 years ago
Yes, she'd be a woman of about 40 now.
gcmc2 2 years ago
@fearbeforefearbefore
he did both
win and quit
R.I.P. Jochen
Rosensteiner2010 1 year ago
@fearbeforefearbefore somehow he did both =(
kamikatze07 1 year ago
@fearbeforefearbefore well he won the championship and quit racing.
didickcheeseburger 1 year ago
@didickcheeseburger c*ck end comment
spiralz46 11 months ago
Miles????? The modern world uses the Metric System. Three nations have not officially adopted the International System of Units as their primary or sole system of measurement: Liberia, Burma and the United States.
icevaporeon 2 years ago
I think i know u was behind it. My father gave me a hint.
newromantic888 2 years ago
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Its obvious. Many other drivers have been killed intentionally by there own team due to the mafia , due to political or monetary influence, or just for other reasons. Similarities between Ayrton and Rindt...........come to me. Both killed.
newromantic888 2 years ago
They want a german champion instead of a brazilian racer.
icevaporeon 2 years ago
Somebody intentionally killed Jochan Rindt.
newromantic888 2 years ago
I think his car wad doctored.
newromantic888 2 years ago
Too many similar accidents around the same time for my liking.
newromantic888 2 years ago
butthese mistakes dont happen. He was definately killed. I am getting it now. No mistake he was intentionally killed. For me this the best example.
newromantic888 2 years ago
is that happend at the parabolica corner??, was there latest race when Barrichello win
Jackydev 2 years ago
Are those people running back and forth across the race track????
copperhead29 2 years ago
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hi!
can someone tell from which film is this scene from?
imotakttob 2 years ago
it's not a film, it's real life...
zamzungas 2 years ago 17
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everyone knows that it is really happened. what i am interested about is what film features this scene?
imotakttob 2 years ago
@zamzungas its not a film? pretty sure it is cause they didnt have digital recording yet
koouumar 1 year ago
@koouumar Have you ever heard the word "analog" before?? *facepalm*
snippydude 1 year ago
It's not from a film. It's real footage from the 1970 Monza Grand prix...
Benji27 2 years ago
this is not a movie!!!!!! this was the F1 race at monza...read the title for goodness sakes.
monxcrib 2 years ago
That is jochen rindt's death, he was the only world champion to not survive his championship year and was widely tipped to be the 'Senna' of the 70s until this moment.
scottN1980 2 years ago
are you crazy???
this is the deadly accident from jochen rindt....
smampfal1 2 years ago
Jochen was one of the most fascinating F1 drivers.I just heard of him by my father and watched most of the videos.
R.I.P Jochen
Streetkig 2 years ago
What was even more heartbreaking: it is said that Jochen told his wife Nina that this would be his last year in F1 and that he would retire. His prophecy came true in the most horrific way imaginable. RIP Jochen Rindt. Definitely every bit as good as Niki Lauda.
starlionblue 2 years ago 2
yes,he was world champion on the end of the season.Jacky Ickx could have been world champion but he didn't do so out of respect for Jochen.That is what you call a gentleman and sportsman.Something that's missing in the sport today.
seatleontsi1 2 years ago 3
That's not true. Ferrari had big tire trouble at Watkins Glen in the last race and could do nothing to stop Fittipaldi from winning and securing the title for Rindt. Of course Jochen and his Lotus were so dominant that it would be unfair to be beaten at the last moment.
dragob 2 years ago
You could be right about that,because i was told it this way,never looked it up before,sorry if i was wrong..
seatleontsi1 2 years ago
Although this, he was the champion........RIP
pablotjob 2 years ago
I couldn't figure out why his car crash at that spot, It looks like the Parabolica Curve's entrance, not a hard braking over there.
Kw12345ff 2 years ago
A part of his car's breaking system broke (sorry, I don't know whats the english word for 'Bremswelle') and so the car started to turn.
Mumbamumba 2 years ago
its called Brake shaft
Hiosho 2 years ago
Yes it is Parabolica, and yes they brake hard enough there.
dragob 2 years ago
Soon after the crash, the TV shots clearly shows Hunt trying to help to get Ronnie out of his car. However the scene I more vividly recall from my childhood is a very quick shot of the face of Ronnie soon after he was extracted from the cars. He looks conscient, despite shocked and suffering from the fractures to his legs. Everybody was convinced he would have survived and most of the worries were about Brambilla, an italian driver who looked like having suffered the worst injuies from the crash
gvv1965 2 years ago
According to both Tony Rudd and Jackie Stewart he died because he wasn't wearing crotch straps therefore slid down on impact and cut his throat on the chest belt buckle.
ysgol3 2 years ago 4
i couldve sworn he died in the hospital because of a blood claught (or however you spell i) in his leg, hmph... maybe it was another driver...
mattgotowned 2 years ago
He died because of the crash before reaching the hospital. Safety belts did not work and the driver was fatally pushed against the steering wheels.
gvv1965 2 years ago
I think you are thinking of Ronnie Peterson, who suffered badly broken legs in a crash just after the start of the 1978 Italian GP. Overnight, some of the bone marrow got into his bloodstream and caused a fat embolism, pretty much like a blood clot, which shut down his organs.
tricesimo 2 years ago
yeah, thats who i was thinking of, thanks.
mattgotowned 2 years ago
Yes I can perfectly remember Ronnie. He was rescued with severe injuries to the legs, but I vividly remember that first news did not say his life was endangered,so his death came as a surprise. There was an error in the race start from the race director (too early start) that caused a mess in the first bend. Probably the McLaren of Hunt skidded causing the crash
gvv1965 2 years ago
Yes and Hunt spent the rest of his life trying to blame the innocent Patrese. Twat.
ysgol3 2 years ago
when did they change the monza track from the banked circuit to the current layout?
Ifuckingh8you 2 years ago 2
F1 stopped using the banks in 1961 after the death of Wolfgang von Trips.
CescSoler 2 years ago 2
Could have snapped his neck, severing the spinal column, probably would have kinned him instantly.
howtowakeakar 2 years ago
Any opinions as to whether running without wings may have contributed to Rindt's crash? I've always wondered...
tricesimo 2 years ago
it was a brakeshaft failure, so very unlikely the wings had anything to do with it
woot123sexyparty 2 years ago
This is the theory supported by Italian Wikepedia. The wings were eliminated in Monza to make Lotus more competitive
gvv1965 2 years ago
That's right - the Ferrari V12's were very much at home on the long Monza straights, so to keep the Lotus competitive, the wings were taken off.
I'm sure this must have made the car more unstable, so perhaps the brakeshaft failure resulted in a worse crash than if they ran with wings.
tricesimo 2 years ago
To be more precise,sorry for my english,the root cause was the braking system that probably collapsed. Specifically,the evidence was about a suppor of the disk brake that was literally cut in two because (probably) of the stress caused by the absence of wings.
Looks like he had the 6 anchor belts, but that also collapsed.He suffered a cardiac arrest with the impact so that,despite the severe injuries,there was no blood loss.He died immediately,not because lack/untimeliness of assistance
gvv1965 2 years ago