@afkdude i can't understand why people can't appreciate those shots. oh! i know maybe they are amateurs who think that a pool table is like a circus where one can perform tricks all the time. From a good billiard player's(even a pro pool player's) perspective they were one of his best. You guys are not putting "pressure" on your things-to-appreciate in pool.
best shots in this video means havent meant the ball must be push into the pocket, it means the way Beta play and solve his turn in super super hard situations that a pro players haven't thought they must play like this, those trick shots are only played in practice.
Rotation is not the hardest game of the pool games. In the Philippines, rotation is the most popular game and people do not use international rules, instead, they use very funny local rules, by which much more "Chamba" often occurs. No-cushion rule is not applied because the table condition is terrible. However, those bad conditions make Filipino players so strong.
Efren would never say, Rotation is the hardest game even on the Philippine table. Ever tried 14-1 or one-pocket?
@OhMyHj Exactly. You miss, you lose. That's how it goes in almost every pool game at the pro level, which is why I don't think 9 ball is that much harder. The game itself is easier.
@OhMyHj that's your opinion. and you can say the same thing about straight pool and 8 ball to a lesser extent. IMO, 9 ball's not that tough. It's just as hard as any other pool game to be great at, but it's the easiest game to learn. In actuality, if your opponent consistently strings 3-7 racks together when he has a shot and you keep missing, you're losing not because the game's harder, but because your opponent is a great player.
What's so good about snooker? Snooker has no complexity when it comes to pocketing the balls. You hit straight in, or a one rail bank shot. In pool, there is more flexibility, more possibility because of the smaller table. Plus, the pockets are POINTED, not CURVED, so do a little research before talking shit ok?
What excuses? I'm just telling the truth. Points? Goddamn. This is about flexibility, about using the table to it's full extent. No snooker player has ever played 3 cushion at all. Take this is a fact.
@MirageBistro FFS you wanna go 3 cushions? and you could look up on ronnie o'sullivans 3 cushion pot if you want. and i also want you to take it as a fact that snooker is on a much higher level than fuking pool. just think about it. a slight twist in your stroke or a jerk would alrdy make you miss the pot by a mile. i guess you havent played on a snooker table?
Higher level? Then how come I don't see anyone doing any jump shots, bank shots, cross bank shots, cross rail shots and kick shots on the goddamn snooker table?
What is this gimmick?
What twist?
The snooker holes are curved to allow ANY ball to enter w/o any problem. On pool, they are at a sharp angle to challenge the player to SHOOT straight.
@MirageBistro He's definitely not a joke. simply because he doesn't do stuff Blomdahl does doesn't disqualify all the skill he possesses. He's, at the least, 3rd best snooker player in the world. How is that a joke?
What do you know about the different disciplines of pool? Have you watched Efren Reyes? Earl Strickland? Nick Varner? Have you seen the flexibility being displayed on the pool table by these players?
Fact is, HE IS A JOKE compared to these players ON THE POOL TABLE.
Snooker? Come on, man. Who wants to play a mind numbing game like that? I don't see ANYTHING IMPRESSIVE , ANYTHING COMPLEX, OR ANYTHING RISKY on the snooker table. Let me put it this way: Where are the kick shots?
@MirageBistro U dont think snooker is impressive? Id like 2 see u try play snooker. It is an incredibly difficult game to learn and master, JUST LIKE POOL. Im just wondering when ppl will realize snooker vs pool is a retarded argument. They're both billiards game, they are BOTH challenging in their own ways. ie u can be good at pool and suck at snooker and vice versa. They both take a lot of skill to be good at. I dont watch snooker to see incredible kicks. Its about accuracy really.
@MirageBistro DUDE! U don't see banks or kicks in snooker because that's not how you're supposed to play the game! Im not going to show u 3 rail kicks in snooker, because they're too risky in snooker because the game is DIFFERENT. If u really understood that, u wouldnt be trying to make me show u a 3 rail snooker kick.
Face it, snooker and pool both take an incredible amount of skill, but in different ways. Just cuz ur good @ pool dont make u good at snooker & vice versa.
You're stupid to compare success with snooker player succeeding in snooker and pool players succeeding in pool. If a snooker player succeeded in pool, then hes a good pool player as well. Very few have made a transition. and the ones that did are snooker hall of famers so there is no surprise that they can make that transition. But it is ignorant to say ALL snooker players can make that transition
@MirageBistro I dont remember talking about kick snooker shots, but if I said something of that sort, I typed my comment wrong. My comment w/success was simply demonstrating how different the games are since players can't transition that well. I dont even know what we're arguing about anymore. I am a pool player myself, just to let u know. And I dont even remember me bringing up breaking in pool and the luck factor etc etc. PM me if u want 2 continue talking cuz I hate 500 character limit
Don’t refer to 9 ball as “pool” there are many more difficult and advanced games in pool. 9 ball is a relatively easy game, especially for pros who can get away with poor position play with their accuracy. however, breaking is not all luck. You can master it enough to use good power and control the cue ball, but that is just about the most difficult thing to do, where you are cueing that fast and you have to hit the correct spot on the cue ball.
@MirageBistro What do u mean show u something equivalent @ the pool table? I dont understand the point u were trying to make with kick shots. Ya snooker is pretty much all cut shots and pool has more variety of ways to pocket balls.
Ya Efren can kick amazingly. Didn't really understand what u meant. However, the equivalent on a snooker table would be watching a 147, which is something most pool players cant do. Most snooker players struggle to run 9 ball racks. They're different. Case closed.
@jsmh3 I've also played both snooker and pool. Im sick of ppl arguing snooker is harder and it's a fact. Look. Potting balls are harder in snooker due to bigger table & smaller pockets. But as far as positional play and all the other aspects that make both billiards game unique, you can't really say what's harder. Ive seen O'Sullivan play 9 ball a few times. Guess what? For the most part, not that impressive. Him on a snooker table? Incredible. Just goes to show how different the 2 games r.
Potting balls is not what billiards is about. It's about HOW you pocket balls. Talk about 9-ball.
POOL IS NOT AN INFERIOR GAME
It is merely an opinion!
Pool has POINTED POCKETS that offer challenge to the average snooker player. The snooker table is HUGE, a potential detriment to a regular pool player.
@MirageBistro I don't understand u. Of course pool is not an inferior game. I never said that. In fact, it's just about all I do with my spare time. Like I said, the games have their differences and they require different amounts of skill and yes, I do watch Reyes, Archer, Varner, Bustamante, etc. Im saying it takes different types of skill. In snooker, ur cut shot ability needs to be at such a high level for u to play competitively. Pool has a bigger variety of gameplay(kick, bank etc).
The aims of the games are different, the rules are different, and there are shots in pool that are not legal in snooker (jump shots, for example). The behaviour of the cloth is different. The nature of the audiences are different. The general strategies involved are different: You try to break the balls up as much as possible on the break in eight ball, whilst a safety break bringing the white ball back to the baulk cushion is standard in snooker.
@insidenglish consider the match dumbass... that missed attempt on the nine ball's audacity was felt by the crowd. For people who are watching it, it can be consider great in pulling that shot. And the scratch, one thing about it, efren made the cue ball go through the 2 and the 9 from the rail. Can you think other escape from that safety?
@joshuaagar lol you're not on the bright side buddy:)) Ok just for you : slop shot is the third shot you posted in your "compilation" when he missed the 5 into the side but made it into the corner pocket, not the first one. Do you even know what a slop shot is? dont even bother.
@insidenglish Nice going ragging on a guy who's first language probably isn't English and happens to not know what slop means. It's a nice compilation. Maybe not named accurately, but still exciting to watch. No need to be an asshole about it. That missed kick shot is still is a sick shot. Efren was in JAIL and had to thread the cue ball between the 2-9 and he even arced the cue ball a bit with follow off the foot rail. But I guess you can't appreciate that subtle skill and shot.
lol this uploader has alot ofrage built up.
afkdude 7 months ago
@afkdude i can't understand why people can't appreciate those shots. oh! i know maybe they are amateurs who think that a pool table is like a circus where one can perform tricks all the time. From a good billiard player's(even a pro pool player's) perspective they were one of his best. You guys are not putting "pressure" on your things-to-appreciate in pool.
joshuaagar 7 months ago 4
best shots in this video means havent meant the ball must be push into the pocket, it means the way Beta play and solve his turn in super super hard situations that a pro players haven't thought they must play like this, those trick shots are only played in practice.
phongvo9989 7 months ago
bobo ng nag-upload nito! palitan mo title tanga!
meleighbry 9 months ago
@OhMyHj no the hardest pool game is rotation most common pool game in the philippines
PeterPinduko 9 months ago
@PeterPinduko
Rotation is not the hardest game of the pool games. In the Philippines, rotation is the most popular game and people do not use international rules, instead, they use very funny local rules, by which much more "Chamba" often occurs. No-cushion rule is not applied because the table condition is terrible. However, those bad conditions make Filipino players so strong.
Efren would never say, Rotation is the hardest game even on the Philippine table. Ever tried 14-1 or one-pocket?
kenkenken9876 8 months ago
i didnt know you can record videos with a shaver
gokawi 10 months ago
@OhMyHj Exactly. You miss, you lose. That's how it goes in almost every pool game at the pro level, which is why I don't think 9 ball is that much harder. The game itself is easier.
TheStrokeofGenious 11 months ago
@OhMyHj that's your opinion. and you can say the same thing about straight pool and 8 ball to a lesser extent. IMO, 9 ball's not that tough. It's just as hard as any other pool game to be great at, but it's the easiest game to learn. In actuality, if your opponent consistently strings 3-7 racks together when he has a shot and you keep missing, you're losing not because the game's harder, but because your opponent is a great player.
TheStrokeofGenious 11 months ago
pool players have such lousy skills. just look at their stroke FFS. so jerky, twisted. pool is a complete joke.
jsmh3 1 year ago
@jsmh3
What's so good about snooker? Snooker has no complexity when it comes to pocketing the balls. You hit straight in, or a one rail bank shot. In pool, there is more flexibility, more possibility because of the smaller table. Plus, the pockets are POINTED, not CURVED, so do a little research before talking shit ok?
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@MirageBistro lol your giving so many excuses. i bet you cant even get a 20point break in snooker. just keep talking seriously.
jsmh3 1 year ago
@jsmh3
What excuses? I'm just telling the truth. Points? Goddamn. This is about flexibility, about using the table to it's full extent. No snooker player has ever played 3 cushion at all. Take this is a fact.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@MirageBistro FFS you wanna go 3 cushions? and you could look up on ronnie o'sullivans 3 cushion pot if you want. and i also want you to take it as a fact that snooker is on a much higher level than fuking pool. just think about it. a slight twist in your stroke or a jerk would alrdy make you miss the pot by a mile. i guess you havent played on a snooker table?
jsmh3 1 year ago
@jsmh3
There's no such thing as a "3 cusion pot".
Higher level? Then how come I don't see anyone doing any jump shots, bank shots, cross bank shots, cross rail shots and kick shots on the goddamn snooker table?
What is this gimmick?
What twist?
The snooker holes are curved to allow ANY ball to enter w/o any problem. On pool, they are at a sharp angle to challenge the player to SHOOT straight.
Snooker is for wankers lol.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@jsmh3
PS. Ronnie O Sullivan is a joke. Never seen a SINGLE video of him doing the stuff Tbjorn Blomdahl is doing.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@MirageBistro well if you say his a joke then i guess its pointless for me to go on.
jsmh3 1 year ago
@MirageBistro He's definitely not a joke. simply because he doesn't do stuff Blomdahl does doesn't disqualify all the skill he possesses. He's, at the least, 3rd best snooker player in the world. How is that a joke?
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
What do you know about the different disciplines of pool? Have you watched Efren Reyes? Earl Strickland? Nick Varner? Have you seen the flexibility being displayed on the pool table by these players?
Fact is, HE IS A JOKE compared to these players ON THE POOL TABLE.
Snooker? Come on, man. Who wants to play a mind numbing game like that? I don't see ANYTHING IMPRESSIVE , ANYTHING COMPLEX, OR ANYTHING RISKY on the snooker table. Let me put it this way: Where are the kick shots?
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@MirageBistro U dont think snooker is impressive? Id like 2 see u try play snooker. It is an incredibly difficult game to learn and master, JUST LIKE POOL. Im just wondering when ppl will realize snooker vs pool is a retarded argument. They're both billiards game, they are BOTH challenging in their own ways. ie u can be good at pool and suck at snooker and vice versa. They both take a lot of skill to be good at. I dont watch snooker to see incredible kicks. Its about accuracy really.
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
Kicks? Like the ones Reyes can do ? Like the one Strickland can do ? Show me something EQUIVALENT @ the pool table. I dare you.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
That's what I'm trying to say, dude! They're both equivalent, but unfortunately EVERYONE is biased in favor of snooker.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@MirageBistro DUDE! U don't see banks or kicks in snooker because that's not how you're supposed to play the game! Im not going to show u 3 rail kicks in snooker, because they're too risky in snooker because the game is DIFFERENT. If u really understood that, u wouldnt be trying to make me show u a 3 rail snooker kick.
Face it, snooker and pool both take an incredible amount of skill, but in different ways. Just cuz ur good @ pool dont make u good at snooker & vice versa.
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
You're stupid to compare success with snooker player succeeding in snooker and pool players succeeding in pool. If a snooker player succeeded in pool, then hes a good pool player as well. Very few have made a transition. and the ones that did are snooker hall of famers so there is no surprise that they can make that transition. But it is ignorant to say ALL snooker players can make that transition
MirageBistro 1 year ago
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@MirageBistro I dont remember talking about kick snooker shots, but if I said something of that sort, I typed my comment wrong. My comment w/success was simply demonstrating how different the games are since players can't transition that well. I dont even know what we're arguing about anymore. I am a pool player myself, just to let u know. And I dont even remember me bringing up breaking in pool and the luck factor etc etc. PM me if u want 2 continue talking cuz I hate 500 character limit
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
Don’t refer to 9 ball as “pool” there are many more difficult and advanced games in pool. 9 ball is a relatively easy game, especially for pros who can get away with poor position play with their accuracy. however, breaking is not all luck. You can master it enough to use good power and control the cue ball, but that is just about the most difficult thing to do, where you are cueing that fast and you have to hit the correct spot on the cue ball.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
Snooker sucks!
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
Again, where are those impressive 3 bank tightly executed kickshots on a snooker table?
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@MirageBistro What do u mean show u something equivalent @ the pool table? I dont understand the point u were trying to make with kick shots. Ya snooker is pretty much all cut shots and pool has more variety of ways to pocket balls.
Ya Efren can kick amazingly. Didn't really understand what u meant. However, the equivalent on a snooker table would be watching a 147, which is something most pool players cant do. Most snooker players struggle to run 9 ball racks. They're different. Case closed.
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
You idiot. Can't you read? You mentioned some kick shots ON THE SNOOKER TABLE. Prove them!
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@jsmh3 I've also played both snooker and pool. Im sick of ppl arguing snooker is harder and it's a fact. Look. Potting balls are harder in snooker due to bigger table & smaller pockets. But as far as positional play and all the other aspects that make both billiards game unique, you can't really say what's harder. Ive seen O'Sullivan play 9 ball a few times. Guess what? For the most part, not that impressive. Him on a snooker table? Incredible. Just goes to show how different the 2 games r.
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
Potting balls is not what billiards is about. It's about HOW you pocket balls. Talk about 9-ball.
POOL IS NOT AN INFERIOR GAME
It is merely an opinion!
Pool has POINTED POCKETS that offer challenge to the average snooker player. The snooker table is HUGE, a potential detriment to a regular pool player.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
@MirageBistro I don't understand u. Of course pool is not an inferior game. I never said that. In fact, it's just about all I do with my spare time. Like I said, the games have their differences and they require different amounts of skill and yes, I do watch Reyes, Archer, Varner, Bustamante, etc. Im saying it takes different types of skill. In snooker, ur cut shot ability needs to be at such a high level for u to play competitively. Pool has a bigger variety of gameplay(kick, bank etc).
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
@ProdigyKimXP
The aims of the games are different, the rules are different, and there are shots in pool that are not legal in snooker (jump shots, for example). The behaviour of the cloth is different. The nature of the audiences are different. The general strategies involved are different: You try to break the balls up as much as possible on the break in eight ball, whilst a safety break bringing the white ball back to the baulk cushion is standard in snooker.
MirageBistro 1 year ago
HEH REDNECK HATES EFREN, EARL MUCH?
isinox 1 year ago
@insidenglish, those ones were difficult to pull out... Potting is not all that is appreciated in billiards..
joshuaagar 1 year ago
@joshuaagar wow lol. are slop shots appreciated ?
Efren pulled some amazing shots in critical moments in big matches and you include scratches and slop shots in you "compilation". Weak.
insidenglish 1 year ago
@insidenglish consider the match dumbass... that missed attempt on the nine ball's audacity was felt by the crowd. For people who are watching it, it can be consider great in pulling that shot. And the scratch, one thing about it, efren made the cue ball go through the 2 and the 9 from the rail. Can you think other escape from that safety?
joshuaagar 1 year ago
@joshuaagar lol you're not on the bright side buddy:)) Ok just for you : slop shot is the third shot you posted in your "compilation" when he missed the 5 into the side but made it into the corner pocket, not the first one. Do you even know what a slop shot is? dont even bother.
insidenglish 1 year ago
@insidenglish better call yourself babo, baka, tanga and idiot.
joshuaagar 1 year ago
@joshuaagar no you're stupid
MrRasulversion 1 year ago
dude you include a slop shot and a missed kick to the "best shots" ? are you retarded?
insidenglish 1 year ago
@insidenglish yes...what can you do at situations like that....bullshit
joshuaagar 1 year ago 22
@insidenglish Nice going ragging on a guy who's first language probably isn't English and happens to not know what slop means. It's a nice compilation. Maybe not named accurately, but still exciting to watch. No need to be an asshole about it. That missed kick shot is still is a sick shot. Efren was in JAIL and had to thread the cue ball between the 2-9 and he even arced the cue ball a bit with follow off the foot rail. But I guess you can't appreciate that subtle skill and shot.
namgnay 1 year ago
@insidenglish the missed kick was still a great shot, thru all that traffic.. so close
jasminetomcat 1 year ago