this is not Land Rover against Renault this is old wherses new.they are destrying some old myths too. crashing q7 and x5 is a bit more expencive isnt it but it would prove the same. the biggest cars isnt always best.
Now here i agree whit audirocks and sqr81r cuz the discovery is waaaay older , it looks to me like the one from 88-93-94 and the discovery looks like a 2003-2004 at least . Yeah the older are made like tanks but all that " tank like " chassie are pussed into the car , where at the newer cars that eather absorb eather deflect the sock of the crash to all chassie and bodywork . So use 2003-4 newer 4x4 and i bet all would be gooder than the rest of the car types
calm down guys, the point of this video is obvius, some people think the old cars are much more safer than the new ones, they said that the older ones ofers better protection because "they are build like tanks" and the new ones are made of plastic.
The most important is a solid passanger "cage" and not an old indestructible bumper...
Watching these tests. You can tell which car is going to win. It is going to be the one you don't expect and the one that they are promoting. We live in such a world of bullshit that it is impossible to believe anything. Best safety is use you fucking brain and pay attention on the road.
they didnt show the in-car camera for the land rover to see if he hit the dash or steering wheel...he may just have seatbelt burn and leg bruises but they didnt elaborate enough like they didon the van
see that was what I am talking about. 1000 times worse? No wonder you liked this video, it fits right in with your exagerating lifestyle. Lets take a mid nineties crappy landy and crash it into a brand new minivan and then work the camera angles and ignore all the numbers and try to sell our minivan.
Lets try to sell our car. Lets set up a biased test to confirm our supposition so we can sell more cars. They left the window up on the van so you couldn't see how munched up the driver was. They didn't give any hard numbers or measurements like force on occupants. This is not hard science people. This is sensationalism. Don't go and buy a minivan just on this video.
@wildmouse216 if u own an old thing and think it's better check euroncapdotcom and see how new cars perform and if the window is bla bla and we didn't see how the forces moved and other bla bla we did see that he was crushed in the 4x4 1000 times worse than in the minivan so open ur eyes
Schoolrun Landy? Oh boy... It's a horrible horrible car. All electrics are broken. It jolts, rocks, twitch, turns, wobbles. It's a magic it passes inspections year after year. However it pulls cars out of ditches and best of all it pulls itself out of ditches. It doesn't belong on-road.
@swedishiron yes, but some people do. I would rather like to know how a modern SUV vs an Espace works out. We all know that the older cars perform extremely bad when it comes to crashes.
@AudiROCKS Right. Like all families can afford to drive such things. This test was about a used affordable 4x4. Both those examples are useless ugly garbage. Q7 must be the ugliest car around these days.
@rock3tcat well that's a real un educated comment calling people who drive a 4x4 in urban environments idiots... 2 wheel drive may be fine where you live with your claimant and geography..in my part of the country you will be sitting at home all winter and loose work and starv jack ass...
@AudiROCKS it is fair.it is much better then against an modern suv because they are build completely different.the frame structure of those old landrovers is very massive whereas the new suv's like audis are more designed and crafted like normal sedans or vans.with a soft frame structure in the front to absorb the impact.so this test is very useful in my opinion.it shows that nobody needs those suv's to feel safe.
hope some can be inspired to buy a normal car instead of such silly big suv's.
@AudiROCKS 5 years, probably the same price as the espace - you woulden't be able to buy a Q7 for the same price as a same-year espace - It would be an unfair test to test cars you coulden't afford to buy
my point was they say heavy duty 4x4, a range rover aint a heavy duty 4x4, you want a heavy duty 4x4 you go big, and powerful......somthing that can pull a 10,000lb+ ....lets see your "Heavy Duty" Range Rover do that
our range rover does do that a couple of time a month we have a tractor trailer that on its own weighs 3 ton, fully loaded it weights over 7 ton and our rangie pulls it up and down hill with no problem at all
oh and as you seem to be a half witt thats 15,680lb and how can you say that a range rover isn't powerfull it has a 4.6 v8 and a low range gear box that =390bhp a silverado only produces 360bhp so go shuv your silverado as far up your ass as possible
thats most likely the 6.0 gasser, the specs change ALOT when you start bumpin up into the 8100 gasser and the 6600d-max. you go hook a chevy and a range up and i will bet money the chevy will pull the range around. and by the way your a dumb ass if you think you can pull 15,680lbs your off on ur specs there jack
awwh, im srry i made you cry. i guess ill leave you alone, you ride your pos range in ur back yard while i ride high and fly in my big bad chevy blowin black smoke
what are you on about you stupid wanker go ride your piece of shit chevy that only has about 2 horse power because americans make shit engines 360 bhp from a 8100 we can brits canm get that from a 2.5 diesel
all of them could tow ur lil range around anywhere, they are bigger, stronger and have more power than ur lil piece of shit. think what you want,. by the way the 8100 completely stock puts out 375hp and 490lbs of torque, lets see ur range put out 490lbs, hp doesnt mean shit, the power is in the torque. the suped up versin puts out 420hp and 505lbs of torque. the new D-mas puts out 660lbs of torque stock, so put that in ur lil ranges tail pipe and smoke it. whiny ass, get ur shit together
They are comparing an old vehicle to a new one. of course the fucking renault is going to do better its nearly 10 years newer with much better safety features than the land rover. stupid 5th gear.
When I saw 4x4 crash test I was thinking big ass trucks not these little bitch cars if my truck hit that car doing 40mph I would be fine and that car would be completely gone
they actauly developed the discovery during 1987/88 and the espace went on sale in sumin like 2006 so the diffrence in technologys in these 2 vehicles is extremely vast
@synaesthesia89 actually the Disco was on sale from 1989-1998 (this was a mid to late 1990s model) and the Espace was sold from 1997-2003.So this is a typical late 1990s model crash.
hold on isnt landrover one of the original 4x4 and rest want to be. theres nothing wrong with are landies my bro in law has got a patrol and my freelander diesel keeps with it all the way dont see many aussie 4x4's
This one is no a valid test. If you are going to prove which type of vehicle is safer, it is necessary to use vehicles with similar technologies. That Land Rover Discovery model is from 1995, and, the Renault Espace, from 2003. The difference in technology is about 8 years, too much. The result of the test: obvious.
How can you say it isn't valid? There are all sorts of cars out there from different years. The chances of crashing a car from the same era as your own is not always going to happen. 4x4's are designed in a different way to cope with serious strength added to points a normal car wouldn't have. The point is that 4x4's arn't always the strongest in this everyday situation.
Do it with a Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol not a P.O.S weak chassied pommy Disco. The big problem is the UK thinks landrover products are good..............very funny.
Lol, someone has uploaded this video to this channel twice.
MattLoaf92 1 month ago
those guys from 5th gear... are...don´t know.. dumb!!!! what's the purpose of this video????
santosteixeira76 5 months ago
skip to 1:23 to start the good stuff
naknak95 9 months ago
they should do it at a faster speed
shthd84 10 months ago
plus the fact...any land rover owner will tell you (like me) you don't have a lot of leg room anyway...that looked about standard for a land rover!
pagesfarm 11 months ago
results may very
ChrisBennett18 11 months ago
this is not Land Rover against Renault this is old wherses new.they are destrying some old myths too. crashing q7 and x5 is a bit more expencive isnt it but it would prove the same. the biggest cars isnt always best.
156and 1 year ago
Anyway you would be best in the back seats of any car
motanelustelistu 1 year ago
Now here i agree whit audirocks and sqr81r cuz the discovery is waaaay older , it looks to me like the one from 88-93-94 and the discovery looks like a 2003-2004 at least . Yeah the older are made like tanks but all that " tank like " chassie are pussed into the car , where at the newer cars that eather absorb eather deflect the sock of the crash to all chassie and bodywork . So use 2003-4 newer 4x4 and i bet all would be gooder than the rest of the car types
motanelustelistu 1 year ago
calm down guys, the point of this video is obvius, some people think the old cars are much more safer than the new ones, they said that the older ones ofers better protection because "they are build like tanks" and the new ones are made of plastic.
The most important is a solid passanger "cage" and not an old indestructible bumper...
SQT81R 1 year ago
should have used the newer discovery. that wouldve been reasonable
cardude1992 1 year ago
Watching these tests. You can tell which car is going to win. It is going to be the one you don't expect and the one that they are promoting. We live in such a world of bullshit that it is impossible to believe anything. Best safety is use you fucking brain and pay attention on the road.
mynewpastime 1 year ago
use a new disco!!! buttheads
santosteixeira76 1 year ago
@santosteixeira76 that is not the point is it.
156and 1 year ago
Fot the crash test skip to 1:23
Xayser 1 year ago
i was just wondering how much money the Renaul gave to these guys...
mandalay6969 1 year ago
and the engines just magically dis-a-fucking-peared
cavaliersfan08 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
0:56 go, GO NOW ;)
drivermini 1 year ago
pause at 1:35 and look at the driver on the espace!!!!!!!!!!!!
micrasupers557 1 year ago
Espace is really good, surviving crash with 20yo old offroader. Bravo.
Matticitt 1 year ago
is this a top gear nock off?
black69goat 1 year ago
this is a buy-comercial for Renault ....that 4x4 engine is missing..
TheSudstyle 1 year ago
the espace is the 2004 model not 2006 you idiot ...
legioner9 1 year ago
they didnt show the in-car camera for the land rover to see if he hit the dash or steering wheel...he may just have seatbelt burn and leg bruises but they didnt elaborate enough like they didon the van
felando2002 1 year ago
Renault à misé sur la survie des passagers et c'est un très bon point pour lui !
Agarthalien 1 year ago
wow rofl 1:36, i wander if you would get burned in an accident..
Pieguy302 1 year ago
This proves nothing...
kawi3000 2 years ago
@kawi3000 and why is that? u wanted to see the discovery disappear into dust in order to believe?
kingeddy137 2 years ago
This proves nothing because one id from the 90's and the other is more modern.
kawi3000 2 years ago
@kawi3000 yeah if it's like this sure man it's not fair, but it's to prove for ppl who love old 4x4s that they are not that safe at high speeds
kingeddy137 2 years ago
That's true, i see the point now :)
kawi3000 2 years ago
see that was what I am talking about. 1000 times worse? No wonder you liked this video, it fits right in with your exagerating lifestyle. Lets take a mid nineties crappy landy and crash it into a brand new minivan and then work the camera angles and ignore all the numbers and try to sell our minivan.
wildmouse216 2 years ago
doesnt help that land rover of those years are JUNK. try that compair O' with a toyota
sturomain 2 years ago
at 1:36 look at the mini van it has fire coming out of it
thfyfy 2 years ago
@thfyfy airbag
HFZARGOV 1 year ago
The top piece if the steering wheel is'nt missing you twat,it's obstructed from view by the 'A' pillar interior trim.OPEN YOUR EYES.
LouisMarcelFerdinand 2 years ago
did anyone else catch the top piece of steering wheel missing from the crappy minivan?
even with the aribags deployed the drivers head broke the freaking steering wheel...
that was a nice disco... =[
ZR2PLD 2 years ago
Lets try to sell our car. Lets set up a biased test to confirm our supposition so we can sell more cars. They left the window up on the van so you couldn't see how munched up the driver was. They didn't give any hard numbers or measurements like force on occupants. This is not hard science people. This is sensationalism. Don't go and buy a minivan just on this video.
wildmouse216 2 years ago
@wildmouse216 if u own an old thing and think it's better check euroncapdotcom and see how new cars perform and if the window is bla bla and we didn't see how the forces moved and other bla bla we did see that he was crushed in the 4x4 1000 times worse than in the minivan so open ur eyes
kingeddy137 2 years ago
1:38 haha
alexbjorn123 2 years ago
haha the baby is so cute
acstechtips 2 years ago
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fuck that "4X4" my 2000 F250 is soo much better
xox945 2 years ago
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Calma90 2 years ago
Schoolrun Landy? Oh boy... It's a horrible horrible car. All electrics are broken. It jolts, rocks, twitch, turns, wobbles. It's a magic it passes inspections year after year. However it pulls cars out of ditches and best of all it pulls itself out of ditches. It doesn't belong on-road.
haardkaar 2 years ago
A little Car Polish and everything is like before gg
blutfahrer01 2 years ago
try that with new Range Rover :)
DonGianni00 2 years ago 3
yer thats probably why they didn't cause the people carrier would be flatened i heard in the ncap it is the toughest car they have ever testeed
JasonHam41 2 years ago
they should crash tundra x ram
airtonpavilhao 2 years ago
not a fair test, the discovery is like 10yrs older then the espace. how about using a "used" Audi Q7 or Bmw x5/x3.
AudiROCKS 3 years ago 20
@AudiROCKS Fair, everyone doesn't drive NEW cars
swedishiron 1 year ago
@swedishiron yes, but some people do. I would rather like to know how a modern SUV vs an Espace works out. We all know that the older cars perform extremely bad when it comes to crashes.
AudiROCKS 1 year ago
@AudiROCKS Well the SUV would win as it has more weight and all the tech.
editedbyfailure 1 year ago
@AudiROCKS how about they use an american car, a real 4x4
CRF150EXPERT 1 year ago
@AudiROCKS Q7 and X5 are 5star EUROncap cars, there are still older Land Rovers on the road so they show why you probably should change.
fesen2 1 year ago
@AudiROCKS Right. Like all families can afford to drive such things. This test was about a used affordable 4x4. Both those examples are useless ugly garbage. Q7 must be the ugliest car around these days.
BlackStar250874 1 year ago
@AudiROCKS
No no no, they should have used a "used" lorry or a tank against the Espace...
Why can't people just admit that there's no reason whatsoever to drive a 4x4 in urban enviroments, and the people who do are simply idiots... :D
rock3tcat 11 months ago
@rock3tcat well that's a real un educated comment calling people who drive a 4x4 in urban environments idiots... 2 wheel drive may be fine where you live with your claimant and geography..in my part of the country you will be sitting at home all winter and loose work and starv jack ass...
sublimedward 9 months ago
@AudiROCKS it is fair.it is much better then against an modern suv because they are build completely different.the frame structure of those old landrovers is very massive whereas the new suv's like audis are more designed and crafted like normal sedans or vans.with a soft frame structure in the front to absorb the impact.so this test is very useful in my opinion.it shows that nobody needs those suv's to feel safe.
hope some can be inspired to buy a normal car instead of such silly big suv's.
GIwillo 8 months ago
@AudiROCKS 5 years, probably the same price as the espace - you woulden't be able to buy a Q7 for the same price as a same-year espace - It would be an unfair test to test cars you coulden't afford to buy
Xaiano 3 months ago
Trust them for picking one of the worst built 4x4's on the road.
Elefant95 3 years ago 7
heavy-duty 4x4, that range rover isnt a heavy-duty 4x4, a 2500hd chevy silverado is a heavy-duty 4x4 not a lil range rover
MossyOak83 3 years ago
a:its a discovery b:the range rover is the toughest vehicle ever tested by ncap so you can say the chevy is tougher
JasonHam41 2 years ago
my point was they say heavy duty 4x4, a range rover aint a heavy duty 4x4, you want a heavy duty 4x4 you go big, and powerful......somthing that can pull a 10,000lb+ ....lets see your "Heavy Duty" Range Rover do that
MossyOak83 2 years ago
our range rover does do that a couple of time a month we have a tractor trailer that on its own weighs 3 ton, fully loaded it weights over 7 ton and our rangie pulls it up and down hill with no problem at all
JasonHam41 2 years ago
oh and as you seem to be a half witt thats 15,680lb and how can you say that a range rover isn't powerfull it has a 4.6 v8 and a low range gear box that =390bhp a silverado only produces 360bhp so go shuv your silverado as far up your ass as possible
JasonHam41 2 years ago
thats most likely the 6.0 gasser, the specs change ALOT when you start bumpin up into the 8100 gasser and the 6600d-max. you go hook a chevy and a range up and i will bet money the chevy will pull the range around. and by the way your a dumb ass if you think you can pull 15,680lbs your off on ur specs there jack
MossyOak83 2 years ago
im not of on my specs cause we have to take it on a weigh bridge so i know exactly what it weighs so fuckin do one you prick
JasonHam41 2 years ago
awwh, im srry i made you cry. i guess ill leave you alone, you ride your pos range in ur back yard while i ride high and fly in my big bad chevy blowin black smoke
MossyOak83 2 years ago
what are you on about you stupid wanker go ride your piece of shit chevy that only has about 2 horse power because americans make shit engines 360 bhp from a 8100 we can brits canm get that from a 2.5 diesel
JasonHam41 2 years ago
all of them could tow ur lil range around anywhere, they are bigger, stronger and have more power than ur lil piece of shit. think what you want,. by the way the 8100 completely stock puts out 375hp and 490lbs of torque, lets see ur range put out 490lbs, hp doesnt mean shit, the power is in the torque. the suped up versin puts out 420hp and 505lbs of torque. the new D-mas puts out 660lbs of torque stock, so put that in ur lil ranges tail pipe and smoke it. whiny ass, get ur shit together
MossyOak83 2 years ago
aahh.. its rare that the land rover doesnt supports that!! q raro q no soporto eso!!
shadremix 3 years ago
Land Rover FTW! I love the Discovery 1
Zerolagg 3 years ago
my hot videos get removed and hers don't?
17soso 3 years ago
They are comparing an old vehicle to a new one. of course the fucking renault is going to do better its nearly 10 years newer with much better safety features than the land rover. stupid 5th gear.
Muddkipz 3 years ago 4
is an annoying voice the only qualification needed to get on thsi shitty show?
UKRedWing 3 years ago 4
yeah this has to be the shittest car show ever.
Muddkipz 3 years ago
When I saw 4x4 crash test I was thinking big ass trucks not these little bitch cars if my truck hit that car doing 40mph I would be fine and that car would be completely gone
F350With460engine 3 years ago
exactly my point, right on!
MossyOak83 3 years ago
they actauly developed the discovery during 1987/88 and the espace went on sale in sumin like 2006 so the diffrence in technologys in these 2 vehicles is extremely vast
synaesthesia89 3 years ago 20
Disco uses a Classic Range Rover chassis and body shell - developed in 1968/69.
angrylandy1 3 years ago
ok so its even more vast then LOL
synaesthesia89 3 years ago
@synaesthesia89 actually the Disco was on sale from 1989-1998 (this was a mid to late 1990s model) and the Espace was sold from 1997-2003.So this is a typical late 1990s model crash.
whattheheck1000 1 year ago
hold on isnt landrover one of the original 4x4 and rest want to be. theres nothing wrong with are landies my bro in law has got a patrol and my freelander diesel keeps with it all the way dont see many aussie 4x4's
inthewred 3 years ago
This one is no a valid test. If you are going to prove which type of vehicle is safer, it is necessary to use vehicles with similar technologies. That Land Rover Discovery model is from 1995, and, the Renault Espace, from 2003. The difference in technology is about 8 years, too much. The result of the test: obvious.
santiagora89 3 years ago
How can you say it isn't valid? There are all sorts of cars out there from different years. The chances of crashing a car from the same era as your own is not always going to happen. 4x4's are designed in a different way to cope with serious strength added to points a normal car wouldn't have. The point is that 4x4's arn't always the strongest in this everyday situation.
bratattack5 3 years ago
the fireball was the airbag deploying. I wouldnt call it an explosion since its chemically "decomposition" but I guess it gives off some light
tyeadon 4 years ago
PML... yes lets see a 4 x 4 against a politically correct enviro friendly super mini
2792729 4 years ago
yeah there was a fireball in the van
gravelboycauty 4 years ago
did anybody see the fire in the van when they hit
shepkimberly 4 years ago
Do it with a Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol not a P.O.S weak chassied pommy Disco. The big problem is the UK thinks landrover products are good..............very funny.
70smetal 4 years ago
jeje
dangie77 4 years ago
cool
locokidd1000 4 years ago