jesus fucking christ, people cant fuckin stop worrying about who is right and wrong for 5 seconds and actually appreciate music. what the fuck does it matter if trent or johnny wrote the fucking song?! its beautiful music either way
On the whole NIN vs Cash version debate. I think the arrangement is far closer to NIN version, especially the 'almost out of tune piano' sound that makes NIN version quite uncomfortable on the ear.
I think the 'crown of thorns' line may be used as a sort of radio edit and more in fitting with the gregorian style than a direct nod to Cash.
In saying that, I think without Cash's version there wouldn't have been this version simply down to the exposure Cash's version brought.
yea it sides more with NIN, but truth be told you can't side with cash or NIN, two different artists with different sounds; music is mostly based on emotional state so sometimes one version is more appealing to you than the other, and other times vice versa =), thats only my oppinion of course though, i`ve had that experience with a hand full of original songs and their covers.
With almost every song of Gregorian found on YouTube, I see comments stating the song from Gregorian is either 'better' or 'worse' than the original is.
But neither is really true, actually.
Gregorian never meant to really challenge the original songs, so, the Gregorian versions are not 'better' or 'worse', only different. It's a personal opinion to either like or dislike it, but it's different from 'better' or 'worse'.
@zodiakranch No, they did not cover it. Trent Reznor wrote Hurt's lyrics at the least and Nine Inch Nails performed it. Johnny Cash covered it later because reportedly he felt it had a lot to do with his life and past experience. As I say, reportedly, not stating any facts here other than that Nine Inch Nails wrote this, not Cash. Yes the man is dead, yes he was very old when he covered it, but he DID cover it.
@Tarresan I had actually decided to look it up after I posted but then I couldn't fugure out how to remove my comment. You are correct that Johnny Cash covered it. And yes he must have been very old because he has been dead for quite a while now. Live and learn...
Actually, if you watch the Cash version of the Video, his wife was in it. She died a couple of months AFTER the video was shot, but prior to it being aired. And, it was not the last song Cash recorded, as it was not the last song he recorded for that album. It was, however, on the last album he recorded.
@DaarkRedeemer No, it's most certainly a Johnny Cash song. There's physical evidence of that. However, NIN *did* actually create the song. Cash just made it his own with that heart-breaking version of his. I prefer Cash's over NIN.
@DaarkRedeemer the title does not say it is a Johnny Cash song it says it is the Johnny cash version of the song. we all know the original song is from NiN, but you clearly did not know that there is a Johnny Cash version of it as well :-)
And I can see you take every opporitunity to be a pretentious douche. Of course I know what source means. But yeah, sure, I'm having lunch with Trent next tomorrow, would you like to come and hear him say it? How in the hell do you 'prove' anyone said anything? I find a website saying he said it, you find one saying he didn't, it's a friggin comment page, assbag, not a news article.
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Let me check...yep, you want Reznor's dick deep in your mouth. Sorry fanboy, kissing his ass online isn't going to make him know you are. I already said it could be or not, who the fuck knows with all the different shit written out there. Pay attention, dipshit. Oh, and this was all said FOUR FUCKING MONTHS AGO. I've nothing against NIN, it doesn't matter who said what to me. Go be a whiny bitch elsewhere. Hmmm...or maybe you want Iowa's cock in your mouth. And those are MY exact words.
If all of you think that the Gregorian style is only for masses of monastery. ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG. After you heard any masterpieces of the Gregorian I challenge that you will change your mind and you will see what is the diference and the new version of the3 Gregorian are better than the original versions.
The gregorian style of this song is better than the original version. No excuses and everybody of the world agreed that the new style made by The Gregorian are better thatn the original versions.
Johnny Cash owns this song so much that every cover is refered to as a cover of his version, on wikipedia at least.
Great song, written by Trent Reznor. Covers may be inspired by Johnny Cash, but I take issue with the idea that a band can "cover" a cover of a song, unless that version is radically different, in a different key with a different arrangement, rewritten lyrics, otherwise its a cover of the trent Reznor version.
LOVE the Johnny Cash version though. This one meh...
well, this is definitely a cover of the trent reznor of nine inch nails version. johnny cash's is a different key, different feel, vocal technique and tempo. so you CAN cover johnny cashs version or trent reznors version.
sorry to burst your bubble but this is cash's version of it if you listen at 2:50 you will hear them sing i wear this crown of thorns upon my liars chair unlike trent's version which clearly says i wear this crown of shit upon my liars chair so sorry but this is cash's version
to daedolon sorry but youre dumber than dogshit ...do you think this is trent's version? no it is neither version it is its own version but it is remade from johnny cash's version loosely ...if you wanna fight semantics and say its someones remake its cash's remake
what the fuck are you babbling about?originally i said it was cash's version and you said i was wrong now u agree it is his make up your ignorant mind... and ps just because you attempt to o use big words doesnt make you any less ignorant...my statement was the usage of this song was from cash's version if you learned to read correctly you would see that so kindly shut the hell up jackass b4 you show your true brainless self for who you are
sarcasm is different from ignorance if youre going to try to be sarcastic at least do it with some sense of wit dumbass ignorance does not equate sarcasm
jesus fucking christ, people cant fuckin stop worrying about who is right and wrong for 5 seconds and actually appreciate music. what the fuck does it matter if trent or johnny wrote the fucking song?! its beautiful music either way
reeceJyoung 7 months ago 4
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dodomoewe 1 year ago
wow... thats the truth!!! the one and only..!
dodomoewe 1 year ago
I hurt myself today
Because I thought something bad
Dionysius8421 1 year ago
I must also point out that this is a Nine Inch Nails song.
mistressdemonica 1 year ago
NIN wrote it but REZNOR said Cash made it
thebishopofme 1 year ago
@thebishopofme Really? I thought Cash ruined it! And I love Johnny....
utube4717 9 months ago
haha, I like how it's considered a cover of a cover. but this does sound a hell of a lot more like the original... the way it's spaced out.
greanbean4 1 year ago
This is kind of more like the Nin version.
TheEgotasticRipoff 1 year ago 2
Definitely based on the Nine Inch Nails Original.
OhMyGodSANDWICH 1 year ago 7
@OhMyGodSANDWICH Lollollol And Thancs!
AlftqhRoussfe 1 year ago
this song is in a league of its own
gothboy2k6 1 year ago
the test of a great song is that it is great no matter who sings it
MSKR111 2 years ago
On the whole NIN vs Cash version debate. I think the arrangement is far closer to NIN version, especially the 'almost out of tune piano' sound that makes NIN version quite uncomfortable on the ear.
I think the 'crown of thorns' line may be used as a sort of radio edit and more in fitting with the gregorian style than a direct nod to Cash.
In saying that, I think without Cash's version there wouldn't have been this version simply down to the exposure Cash's version brought.
dball111 2 years ago
I like the metaphore of the statue (hurt) and reality of (hurt). Nice!
2012knightstemplar 2 years ago
I'm not gonna take sides over who's 'better', but this arrangement obviously takes more after the NIN version than after Cash.
doombuggy84 2 years ago 4
yea it sides more with NIN, but truth be told you can't side with cash or NIN, two different artists with different sounds; music is mostly based on emotional state so sometimes one version is more appealing to you than the other, and other times vice versa =), thats only my oppinion of course though, i`ve had that experience with a hand full of original songs and their covers.
MelodiousEndeavors 2 years ago 2
the sound quality is terrible in this one
rockbusterihs 2 years ago
Original version is not from J. Cash it is Nine Inch Nails' actually.
However, this is the best song in "The Dark Side"
chaosdrow666 2 years ago
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I don't like this bullshit
Im sorry
give me Munk
thats the better Tuning
dlordtempac 2 years ago
With almost every song of Gregorian found on YouTube, I see comments stating the song from Gregorian is either 'better' or 'worse' than the original is.
But neither is really true, actually.
Gregorian never meant to really challenge the original songs, so, the Gregorian versions are not 'better' or 'worse', only different. It's a personal opinion to either like or dislike it, but it's different from 'better' or 'worse'.
Just think about that.
Besides: this song is...
Heartbreaking beautifull..
ImustBeDead 2 years ago 74
I agree...wise words
010car010 2 years ago
This is not a Johnny Cash song it's NIN ,Trent Reznor. Whatever it's imtense I'm so into Gregorian- thank you.
DaarkRedeemer 2 years ago 16
@DaarkRedeemer NIN covered it and I heard that long before I heard Johnny Cash singing it but I believe it was originally his song.
zodiakranch 1 year ago
@zodiakranch No, they did not cover it. Trent Reznor wrote Hurt's lyrics at the least and Nine Inch Nails performed it. Johnny Cash covered it later because reportedly he felt it had a lot to do with his life and past experience. As I say, reportedly, not stating any facts here other than that Nine Inch Nails wrote this, not Cash. Yes the man is dead, yes he was very old when he covered it, but he DID cover it.
Tarresan 1 year ago 3
@Tarresan I had actually decided to look it up after I posted but then I couldn't fugure out how to remove my comment. You are correct that Johnny Cash covered it. And yes he must have been very old because he has been dead for quite a while now. Live and learn...
zodiakranch 1 year ago
@zodiakranch Johhny Cash made his version after his wife died, it was the last song released by Johnny when he was alive
prameszy 1 year ago
@prameszy
Actually, if you watch the Cash version of the Video, his wife was in it. She died a couple of months AFTER the video was shot, but prior to it being aired. And, it was not the last song Cash recorded, as it was not the last song he recorded for that album. It was, however, on the last album he recorded.
Yay for Pop-up Video!
BrotherPraetus 8 months ago 2
@zodiakranch It's the original song from NIN, Cash did the cover.
Dosadan0dan 1 year ago 3
@DaarkRedeemer No, it's most certainly a Johnny Cash song. There's physical evidence of that. However, NIN *did* actually create the song. Cash just made it his own with that heart-breaking version of his. I prefer Cash's over NIN.
errOHneoS 8 months ago
@DaarkRedeemer the title does not say it is a Johnny Cash song it says it is the Johnny cash version of the song. we all know the original song is from NiN, but you clearly did not know that there is a Johnny Cash version of it as well :-)
Tawnyn 7 months ago 7
Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) wrote this song, and NOT Johnny Cash ..
All credit goes to Reznor.
Iowa789101112 2 years ago 4
Except Reznor himself said Cash's version was better, so, there's that.
DarkLordKhaos 2 years ago
Source?
Iowa789101112 2 years ago
Source? The source that Reznor said it was better was Trent Reznor. I believe I said that. Let me check....yep, I already said that
DarkLordKhaos 2 years ago 2
I can see you don't know what source means.
Can you prove that he said that?
Iowa789101112 2 years ago
And I can see you take every opporitunity to be a pretentious douche. Of course I know what source means. But yeah, sure, I'm having lunch with Trent next tomorrow, would you like to come and hear him say it? How in the hell do you 'prove' anyone said anything? I find a website saying he said it, you find one saying he didn't, it's a friggin comment page, assbag, not a news article.
DarkLordKhaos 2 years ago
haha well said
nudeadnation 2 years ago
Except that he didnt.
"still retains sincerity and meaning — different, but every bit as pure."
Those are the exact words used. Nothing about it being better. Never heard the word different used as better... hmmm.
Let me check.... yep you're an idiot making up shit on the internet trying to sound right.
Let me check....yep credit still goes to Reznor for making a masterpiece, Iowa already said that
nickcblackwell 2 years ago
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Let me check...yep, you want Reznor's dick deep in your mouth. Sorry fanboy, kissing his ass online isn't going to make him know you are. I already said it could be or not, who the fuck knows with all the different shit written out there. Pay attention, dipshit. Oh, and this was all said FOUR FUCKING MONTHS AGO. I've nothing against NIN, it doesn't matter who said what to me. Go be a whiny bitch elsewhere. Hmmm...or maybe you want Iowa's cock in your mouth. And those are MY exact words.
DarkLordKhaos 2 years ago
Just for reference: This song can be found on the Gregorian - Dark Side CD.
If you like it, then support it and buy the CD!!!
Preninthecleric 2 years ago 2
If all of you think that the Gregorian style is only for masses of monastery. ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG. After you heard any masterpieces of the Gregorian I challenge that you will change your mind and you will see what is the diference and the new version of the3 Gregorian are better than the original versions.
Inkacienciano 2 years ago
The gregorian style of this song is better than the original version. No excuses and everybody of the world agreed that the new style made by The Gregorian are better thatn the original versions.
Inkacienciano 2 years ago
quite stupid argument..
Trent Reznor wrote it..
and he deserves all the honors for the song..
Cash made an awesome version indeed, but the song is Reznor´s masterpiece..
it's hard to accept, since Cash was such a talented artist.. it's hard to even consider him covering an alternative band..
Respect to both, Reznor and Cash
tortelli 2 years ago
Johnny Cash owns this song so much that every cover is refered to as a cover of his version, on wikipedia at least.
Great song, written by Trent Reznor. Covers may be inspired by Johnny Cash, but I take issue with the idea that a band can "cover" a cover of a song, unless that version is radically different, in a different key with a different arrangement, rewritten lyrics, otherwise its a cover of the trent Reznor version.
LOVE the Johnny Cash version though. This one meh...
CavemanSynthesizer 3 years ago
Nonsense. Total nonsense.
hguy89 3 years ago 4
well, this is definitely a cover of the trent reznor of nine inch nails version. johnny cash's is a different key, different feel, vocal technique and tempo. so you CAN cover johnny cashs version or trent reznors version.
NecroFellas 3 years ago
but ultimately you are covering a trent-reznor SONG. I love the Johnny Cash version, but give credit where credit is due.
I think I just got caught up in a bad case of semantics.
CavemanSynthesizer 3 years ago 3
Not true. Johnny Cash released a superior version. It's his now.
mixmastermind 2 years ago
Johnny Cash = awesome cover.
Trent Reznor = wrote the song
CavemanSynthesizer 2 years ago 2
you are so wrong. My mind is appalled to the point it can't even come up with an arguement...so I'll just say. "You Fail"
LuthienC 2 years ago
All I'm saying is, Trent Reznor made a good song. Johnny Cash made an amazing song.
I also believe that Jimi Hendrix owns "All Along The Watchtower" (which even Bob Dylan admits to) and Santana own Black Magic Woman.
This is my belief. So sue me.
mixmastermind 2 years ago
sorry to burst your bubble but this is cash's version of it if you listen at 2:50 you will hear them sing i wear this crown of thorns upon my liars chair unlike trent's version which clearly says i wear this crown of shit upon my liars chair so sorry but this is cash's version
thesmogmankills 2 years ago
@thesmogmankills
Do you actually expect them to say Shit?
Other than the one line there is no resemblance to the Cash cover.
Daedolon 2 years ago 3
to daedolon sorry but youre dumber than dogshit ...do you think this is trent's version? no it is neither version it is its own version but it is remade from johnny cash's version loosely ...if you wanna fight semantics and say its someones remake its cash's remake
thesmogmankills 2 years ago
@thesmogmankills
yes, the use of dissonance was clearly taken from Cashes as well as the vocal melodies, so very much taken from the Cash version...
It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about so please put away your fanaticism and just enjoy the song.
Daedolon 2 years ago
what the fuck are you babbling about?originally i said it was cash's version and you said i was wrong now u agree it is his make up your ignorant mind... and ps just because you attempt to o use big words doesnt make you any less ignorant...my statement was the usage of this song was from cash's version if you learned to read correctly you would see that so kindly shut the hell up jackass b4 you show your true brainless self for who you are
thesmogmankills 2 years ago
@thesmogmankills
I guess sarcasm is too difficult for you to grasp.
Anyway, I'm done.
Daedolon 2 years ago
sarcasm is different from ignorance if youre going to try to be sarcastic at least do it with some sense of wit dumbass ignorance does not equate sarcasm
thesmogmankills 2 years ago
agreed with ya mate
Bimo165 2 years ago
this is oddly awesome
chillaxer4eva867 3 years ago 2
Awesome Sound!
Grummlock 3 years ago