ah, no.....:)))), i began today with this Carreras aria and it seems, that will take such a time, before i stop today again:))), addictive singer, too.
niente da dire su questa interpretazione giovanile
Carreras resta un tenore lirico, ma molto passionale e con un timbro e colore di voce belli ed inconfondibili
Si e' sempre detto che aveva difficolta' negli acuti In verita' la voce di carresas era molto unifirme, senza i distacchi nei passaggi di registro che si osservano in molti cantanti
I may get beaten up over this but this is the third performer whose vocal decline was ascribed to Karajan; Carreras, Ricciarelli, and Baltsa. These are just the ones I have read about. Why would he do that. Could he have been ignorant of the effects on the voice or are there just not enough people with the natural vocal talents to sing these parts? I doubt that but it just seems odd to me. I am not a musician and have no musical training.
Carreras said in his autobiography that it was more important for him to sing the roles that he found challenging than to keep his voice pristine and keep singing the same lyric roles over and over, and therefore be incredibly bored. Besides, he only had until 1987 before leukemia brought his operatic career to a screeching halt. He wanted to sing the heavier roles, despite the risk to his voice. I, for one, and very glad that he did.
It was his technique that did him in, he could have sung some heavier repertoire, but the singing in the throat was only made worse by the fact that he started adding more size to try and be heard over the orchestra.
Well lets talk clear on this, Carreras was right when he once said that he rather sing challenging roles than sticking to the same boring repertory. To me Its all down to what you consider boring and whats not. Its all about the idea of a young singer of making career in opera. Then you have another option, like Kraus option, being faithful to your voice´s features and keeping your vopice in top form you entire life with a solid tecnique. Then we all singer choose here.
to tena2, you are correct - a singer's personality must be accounted for. I don't understand what is wrong with a singer taking on roles that are outside of their vocal category if that's what they want to do. It's their career, their choice. If it damages their voice I'm sure they are aware of the risk, it is obviously worth it to them.
@novice1959 it was a sacrifice :)partly, i am grateful. but if he was able to survive leukemia ,he would have surely been able to keep his full voice (but voice problems + first of all leukemia) were probably too much. but he is so very admirable. i love his edgardo, alvaro.... Without leukemia he would have managed everything. i think leukemia is to blame and we should be grateful he is still able to sing and that he survived. it was such a luck.
Well, I don't care what the critics may say, I absolutely love his singing here, I think he sounds absolutely gorgeous!!! I would much rather listen to a passionate performance like this one than some "careful" one. No, Carreras was not a cautious singer, and I thank him for it! He dived off the cliff everytime, and I love it!
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Nobody is criticizing people's taste and choice. But people do characterize their choice as the best which is quite often not the case. Feel free to like Carreras. Just don't characterize him as an excellent tenor -he never was, nor was his singing naturally.
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Yes...most people think his voice degraded due to his illness. Actually, his voice took a huge beating about 10 years before his illness thanks to Karajan's persuasion. He should have never ever moved into heavier roles in the late 1970s if ever.
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djura-Carreras is simply not capable of producing the required vocal performance. That is why he sounds totally off. He sounded extremely throaty and hooted as always, and lacked brilliance. There is not point in comparing Carreras to Pava and Kraus. Carreras is a couple of notches below the level Pava and Kraus have reached artistically.
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His voice was pretty good between 1970-79. It wasn't anything stellar, but very good. After than, it was a premature decline for he moved into heavier roles. No matter what the timbre is, if it is not harnessed with a superb technique one ends up like Carreras. He sobs on every note as his voice is not communicative. He has a rather large gap in his passagio. And he's got no appreciable top.
Unfortunately this is true. One of the most beautiful natural voices ever but destroyed dude to unwise choices. Not to be cruel but what the above poster states is true.
There is no denying the commitment, gentlemanly behaviour of this artist however.
I don't think there is a beautiful way to destroy a voice, I have almost 50 live Carreras performances, and in many of them it is so upsetting the way he forces and strains that voice.
something about how people percieve music is how they can enjoy a performance for the beauty of the music and the beauty of the voice. no amount of technique will make a beautiful voice.
however, some people look at the music for the technique and intentions of the performance, their flaws and how they arent as good as some people who the critic would prefer to view.
you remind me of a small child who says "oh, he doesnt sound like pavarotti!" and cant fulfil their own high expectations.
It was "..NUME IN CIEL.." [complete - "ne congiunga il Nume in ciel. {may God unite us in heaven}. The voice was deliberately adjusted to portray "a last breath".
I listened to Pavarotti and Kraus, and they sing it at the end with the full voice, even larger than when they sung the same theme at the beginning of the aria.
If he tried to imitate death, he wouldn't walk around with nife stabbed in his chest. I think something else is the case here, not his delibarate adjusting of voice. Nevertheless, I prefer Carreras.
The theatric interpretation of a performer doesn't need to be similar with other performers. The beauty lies behind the difference in the performer's interpretation, it is where his idiosyncracy and operatic brilliance may be displayed. Even the "La Donna E Mobile" of Kraus, Pavarotti, Aragall, Schipa, Rodger, Volpi, Domingo, Carreras, and many more; all of them portrayed different acts, scenes, tones, rythm, pitch and theatric peculiarities. YOU HAVE A NICE OBSERVATION! YOU'RE A GOOD SPECTATOR
Oh my!I'm glad you appreciated it,but now I'm afraid I've made a mess.That translation is very unfaithful.You have to understand that Italian operas have very weird,old-fashioned lyrics.What he really says is:
Lucia and Edgardo are in love,but their families disapprove.When her brother tells her Edgardo is going to marry another woman,she kills herself.When Edgardo(in this scene)finds out,he kills himself,too.What he says,not litterally,but quite,is:
bravo!!!!!! ... que genial! ... gran voz! ... que capacidad de vocal y dramatica ... realmente admirable ... me gusta como actua ... lo hace bien ... logra sentir , logra transmitir ... bravo ! bravisimo!
Bravo!! There's that gorgeous voice again - another one for my favorites! Here he goes, singing his heart out again - I love it! I'm not familiar with this opera. Can anyone translate this aria for me?
El principal responsable de que Jose perdiera esa gran voz fue el señor Herbert Von Karajan quien lo empujo a cantar roles mas dramaticos de los que el podia encarar.
Aun no he encontrado un Edgardo mejor que Jose Carreras y mas en la version de estudio de 1976 a lado de Caballe-Sardinero-Ramey bajo la batuta de Lopez-Cobos, un Carreras estupendo lamentablemente se quiso acabar su voz tan rapido y por eso cuando cantaba esto se empezo a meter con repertorio Spinto y Dramatico. Lastima de Voz.
I don't think so...that's a matter of style, not a matter of voice. Gigli used to sing Aida with Caniglia and Stignani (he was much more than a "tenore spinto"!) and sang many times Chénier, but his Edgardo is sung with much style and elegance, legato, pianissimi. That's even a matter of technique of course.
ah, no.....:)))), i began today with this Carreras aria and it seems, that will take such a time, before i stop today again:))), addictive singer, too.
eurydike 2 months ago
niente da dire su questa interpretazione giovanile
Carreras resta un tenore lirico, ma molto passionale e con un timbro e colore di voce belli ed inconfondibili
Si e' sempre detto che aveva difficolta' negli acuti In verita' la voce di carresas era molto unifirme, senza i distacchi nei passaggi di registro che si osservano in molti cantanti
belle prova come sempre
clementeamiodar 5 months ago
Great....
Huljic 7 months ago
Muy buena voz. Sin embargo me permito opinar. Algo lenta la interpretación. Y siempre apoyando la voz.
1mane2 9 months ago
@1mane2 como?
Gustavocasanovatenor 7 months ago
how he acts. the pain in his face is so believable...
eurydike 1 year ago 3
Sounds pretty Damn good to me,and looks pretty damn good too.
maxthecat14 1 year ago 2
he made me cry when i heard him sing the final scene in aida today
eurydike 1 year ago 2
i can´t help, i like his singing the best:-)
eurydike 1 year ago 2
They cut out the part of the chorus...odd.
Carreras great as always in this time frame!
donatello1 2 years ago 4
@donatello1 yes, very interesting cut.. probably because of the directorial concept here of having him be in Lucia's chambers. Sounds weird though.
drewski67 1 year ago
Brilliant acting, brilliant singing. I struggle to find words to praise this enough.
Bravo Josep!
MsF1Annie 2 years ago 20
this is so sad...
gheeah 2 years ago 3
Magistral ,como todo lo que hace Carreras !!!!!
MrLuiscastellanos 2 years ago 7
Moving acting... The voice is what it is with its limitations, but the delivery is top-notch. See the young tenor Bulent Bezduz on Tu che a Dio...
19xMAYx1919 2 years ago
Carreras in the Philips Duo studio recording is amazing in this final scene.
wattever333 2 years ago 8
Tenors and their neverending death scenes. :D But the singing is beautiful.
Where is the chorus? They cut the part where they try to hold him back.
Sieglinde84 3 years ago 4
I may get beaten up over this but this is the third performer whose vocal decline was ascribed to Karajan; Carreras, Ricciarelli, and Baltsa. These are just the ones I have read about. Why would he do that. Could he have been ignorant of the effects on the voice or are there just not enough people with the natural vocal talents to sing these parts? I doubt that but it just seems odd to me. I am not a musician and have no musical training.
NKWIAM 3 years ago
Carreras said in his autobiography that it was more important for him to sing the roles that he found challenging than to keep his voice pristine and keep singing the same lyric roles over and over, and therefore be incredibly bored. Besides, he only had until 1987 before leukemia brought his operatic career to a screeching halt. He wanted to sing the heavier roles, despite the risk to his voice. I, for one, and very glad that he did.
novice1959 3 years ago 30
It was his technique that did him in, he could have sung some heavier repertoire, but the singing in the throat was only made worse by the fact that he started adding more size to try and be heard over the orchestra.
Mooorhe 3 years ago
Well lets talk clear on this, Carreras was right when he once said that he rather sing challenging roles than sticking to the same boring repertory. To me Its all down to what you consider boring and whats not. Its all about the idea of a young singer of making career in opera. Then you have another option, like Kraus option, being faithful to your voice´s features and keeping your vopice in top form you entire life with a solid tecnique. Then we all singer choose here.
tena2 3 years ago 3
to tena2, you are correct - a singer's personality must be accounted for. I don't understand what is wrong with a singer taking on roles that are outside of their vocal category if that's what they want to do. It's their career, their choice. If it damages their voice I'm sure they are aware of the risk, it is obviously worth it to them.
novice1959 3 years ago
@novice1959 it was a sacrifice :)partly, i am grateful. but if he was able to survive leukemia ,he would have surely been able to keep his full voice (but voice problems + first of all leukemia) were probably too much. but he is so very admirable. i love his edgardo, alvaro.... Without leukemia he would have managed everything. i think leukemia is to blame and we should be grateful he is still able to sing and that he survived. it was such a luck.
eurydike 10 months ago 2
Well, I don't care what the critics may say, I absolutely love his singing here, I think he sounds absolutely gorgeous!!! I would much rather listen to a passionate performance like this one than some "careful" one. No, Carreras was not a cautious singer, and I thank him for it! He dived off the cliff everytime, and I love it!
novice1959 3 years ago 7
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Nobody is criticizing people's taste and choice. But people do characterize their choice as the best which is quite often not the case. Feel free to like Carreras. Just don't characterize him as an excellent tenor -he never was, nor was his singing naturally.
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
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Yes...most people think his voice degraded due to his illness. Actually, his voice took a huge beating about 10 years before his illness thanks to Karajan's persuasion. He should have never ever moved into heavier roles in the late 1970s if ever.
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
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djura-Carreras is simply not capable of producing the required vocal performance. That is why he sounds totally off. He sounded extremely throaty and hooted as always, and lacked brilliance. There is not point in comparing Carreras to Pava and Kraus. Carreras is a couple of notches below the level Pava and Kraus have reached artistically.
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
But you can´t denied that his voice was beautifull.
corellilover 3 years ago 3
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His voice was pretty good between 1970-79. It wasn't anything stellar, but very good. After than, it was a premature decline for he moved into heavier roles. No matter what the timbre is, if it is not harnessed with a superb technique one ends up like Carreras. He sobs on every note as his voice is not communicative. He has a rather large gap in his passagio. And he's got no appreciable top.
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
Poor technique,the preasure of Herr Karajan for moving into heavier roles and that´s it.
corellilover 3 years ago
Unfortunately this is true. One of the most beautiful natural voices ever but destroyed dude to unwise choices. Not to be cruel but what the above poster states is true.
There is no denying the commitment, gentlemanly behaviour of this artist however.
AntoineGodor 3 years ago
Either way, it was the most beautiful way to destroy a voice, no matter how terrible that sounds.
mcknighty11 3 years ago 3
I don't think there is a beautiful way to destroy a voice, I have almost 50 live Carreras performances, and in many of them it is so upsetting the way he forces and strains that voice.
Mooorhe 3 years ago
something about how people percieve music is how they can enjoy a performance for the beauty of the music and the beauty of the voice. no amount of technique will make a beautiful voice.
however, some people look at the music for the technique and intentions of the performance, their flaws and how they arent as good as some people who the critic would prefer to view.
you remind me of a small child who says "oh, he doesnt sound like pavarotti!" and cant fulfil their own high expectations.
Pavarotti4eva 3 years ago 5
Please, can anybody explain what happend with his voice at the end of the aria - 4:8-4:21? I cannot recognize his voice there.
djura3 3 years ago
It was "..NUME IN CIEL.." [complete - "ne congiunga il Nume in ciel. {may God unite us in heaven}. The voice was deliberately adjusted to portray "a last breath".
barrister79 3 years ago 2
I listened to Pavarotti and Kraus, and they sing it at the end with the full voice, even larger than when they sung the same theme at the beginning of the aria.
If he tried to imitate death, he wouldn't walk around with nife stabbed in his chest. I think something else is the case here, not his delibarate adjusting of voice. Nevertheless, I prefer Carreras.
djura3 3 years ago
The theatric interpretation of a performer doesn't need to be similar with other performers. The beauty lies behind the difference in the performer's interpretation, it is where his idiosyncracy and operatic brilliance may be displayed. Even the "La Donna E Mobile" of Kraus, Pavarotti, Aragall, Schipa, Rodger, Volpi, Domingo, Carreras, and many more; all of them portrayed different acts, scenes, tones, rythm, pitch and theatric peculiarities. YOU HAVE A NICE OBSERVATION! YOU'RE A GOOD SPECTATOR
barrister79 3 years ago 3
Thanks for your comments.
djura3 3 years ago
Raimondo: CHE FACESTI? [what have you done?]
Edgardo: A TE VENGO,O BELL'ALMA.. [I come to you, oh beautiful soul]
Raimondo: SCIAGURATO! [unhappy man]
Edgardo: TI RIVOLGI,AH AL TUO FEDEL. [Oh! turn towards your true love]
Raimondo:PENSA AL CIEL! [think of heaven!]
barrister79 3 years ago 4
Oh my!I'm glad you appreciated it,but now I'm afraid I've made a mess.That translation is very unfaithful.You have to understand that Italian operas have very weird,old-fashioned lyrics.What he really says is:
You've spread your wings to God
O beautiful loving soul
Turn towards me appeased
May your faithful lover ascend with you
If the wrath of the mortals
brought on such a cruel war against us
If we were parted on Earth
May God unite us in heaven.
gimmileo 3 years ago
Lucia and Edgardo are in love,but their families disapprove.When her brother tells her Edgardo is going to marry another woman,she kills herself.When Edgardo(in this scene)finds out,he kills himself,too.What he says,not litterally,but quite,is:
You've preceded me to heaven,
O my one and only true love,
now let your faithful lover
let your faithful lover join you there.
If the schemes of wordly hatred
prevented us from being together,
if we weren't happy in life
let us be happy in death.
gimmileo 3 years ago
Thank you for the translation!!!!
novice1959 3 years ago
bravo!!!!!! ... que genial! ... gran voz! ... que capacidad de vocal y dramatica ... realmente admirable ... me gusta como actua ... lo hace bien ... logra sentir , logra transmitir ... bravo ! bravisimo!
mhfranco 3 years ago 5
brilliant, heart-felt and honest.
romanazazel 3 years ago 4
...que corte mas feo!!
narfitowa 3 years ago
¿por qué le cortaron todo lo del medio? la dañaron
quientepregunto 3 years ago
Bravo!! There's that gorgeous voice again - another one for my favorites! Here he goes, singing his heart out again - I love it! I'm not familiar with this opera. Can anyone translate this aria for me?
novice1959 3 years ago 3
Muy buena interpretacion...pero por dios...que mal actua... una buenas clases de teatro le hubiesem ido bien
diehlan 3 years ago
I was always thought this was one of Carreras' finest roles
kazakhman52 3 years ago 2
Tu che a Dio spiegasti l'ali
o bell'alma innamorata,
ti rivolgi a me placata,
teco ascenda il tuo fedel.
Ah! Se l'ira dei mortali
fece a noi sì cruda guerra,
se divisi fummo in terra,
ne congiunga il Nume in ciel.
barrister79 4 years ago 2
El principal responsable de que Jose perdiera esa gran voz fue el señor Herbert Von Karajan quien lo empujo a cantar roles mas dramaticos de los que el podia encarar.
corellilover 4 years ago
Creo que sea estupendo!!
inmylife9 4 years ago 2
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bad vocal technic...he sings Edgardo like Canio
mozart200657 4 years ago
Great stuff - Carreras always gave so much, be it in an operatic role or singing in concert, he always put his heart and soul into it!
Phaedrax2 4 years ago 4
there, I found the clip, this is so lovely and touching...
gheeah 4 years ago 3
el aria esta baja medio tono.
ilbacioditosca 4 years ago
yo pienso y pensaré siempre como kraus, cuando uno no se cuida el repertorio acaba dañando su voz hasta en el repertorio propio.
Si esta baja un tono y es decepcionante, un carreras con tanta voz como cuando erwa joven.
tena2 4 years ago
Aun no he encontrado un Edgardo mejor que Jose Carreras y mas en la version de estudio de 1976 a lado de Caballe-Sardinero-Ramey bajo la batuta de Lopez-Cobos, un Carreras estupendo lamentablemente se quiso acabar su voz tan rapido y por eso cuando cantaba esto se empezo a meter con repertorio Spinto y Dramatico. Lastima de Voz.
verdiotello 4 years ago
MUY MAGNIFICO!
barrister79 4 years ago 5
wow!
dvdgrog 4 years ago 4
ardent and arresting Carreras but i can tell that he wasnt in best voice that night.
hoomi19 4 years ago 2
Great voice
peter4076 4 years ago 5
Was a great Andrea Chenier
peter4076 4 years ago 6
Yes...but why singing Edgardo like Chénier?...
Shabran87 4 years ago 3
Becasue he's a tenore spinto
babycatcher2004 4 years ago
I don't think so...that's a matter of style, not a matter of voice. Gigli used to sing Aida with Caniglia and Stignani (he was much more than a "tenore spinto"!) and sang many times Chénier, but his Edgardo is sung with much style and elegance, legato, pianissimi. That's even a matter of technique of course.
Shabran87 4 years ago
Nice. Thanks.
rmm413 5 years ago 3
great acting, and a heavenly voice,fantastic clip!
gheeah 5 years ago 7