BUSONI PLAYS Bach - Busoni - Chaconne d minor 1/2

[Bluetooth6483]

I sometimes ponder: Why were the romantic composers/musicians in particular so eager about transcribing, improving, embellishing and editing Bach's music?? Should we be grateful to them today for all their wild ideas? Yes, we should - it contributed to opening the ears of generations to Bach's world!

[galapz]

@Bluetooth6483 Busoni didnt try to improve Bach. He transcribed this in the honor of great Bach.

[binkymagnus]

wow, this is some kind of performance. usually the pianists play the Bach/Busoni Chaconne all legato-y and with lots of pedal and it loses a lot of the sharpness that violinists get out of it. Always interesting to hear how the performances change over time; no one plays it like this now.

[iif5]

Y_Y

[cualquie]

Historical document

[DonAnzalone]

A great master at work. No matter what they say. Unfortunately, not many understand what piano roll means. Piano roll is a mechanical record of a musical sequence including all dynamic nuances. Basically, piano is a mechanical instrumet, and as such gives possibility of mechanical recording. It would be absolutely impossible with, say - violin or guitar.

Saying this was played by machne is equal to saying a rendition of contemporary musician recorded on DVD was played by your computer.

[Bret6464]

@DonAnzalone Great comment! You get some commenters who use the "piano roll" argument to diminish the greatness of many extraordinary artists on piano, this and all the Rachmaninoff recordings. And at the same time you will find the same people extolling some current "player" who is more mechanical than a midi-file and totally lacks musicality - basically now "honky-tonk" classical players are all the rage in some circles!

Great performance - this is how Busoni "wrote" it :-) TY for sharing.

[tnmtemerity]

@DonAnzalone WOW, I mean I'm glad we have piano rolls of great musicians but, to say they include all dynamic nuances clearly is a HUGE overstament...

[MrStrav81]

I also prefer contemporaries' performances of this. Regardless, Busoni bestowed on us one of the greatest of all piano transcriptions. He is a genius.

[001Asoer]

Is there a CD available?

[alexilmagnifico]

He was a real devil... Claudio Arrau though, when they played him those rolls "blindly" he didn't recognize him at all......

So its not even a glimpse of his playing...... let us be thankful though.. :)

[fredericfranc]

This does not sound halfway bad but I worry: it is not a person, it is a freaking MACHINE playing the Chaconne. If the machines can do a believable Chaconne, where does it leave us, the so called people? Like, before long, you will be taught how to play the piano, yes, by a MACHINE...it is happening, in some ways, already...

[mahler151]

@fredericfranc

Egad! Pretty soon we'll be the servants...TO THE MACHINES!

[fredericfranc]

@mahler151 ...at the present commercial software does exist that will predict rather well how a popular song will do "in the charts"...what the next step is likely to be you can well figure...

[spr1ng0ni0n]

very nice interpretation and such a clever arrangement - it flows throughout

[spr1ng0ni0n]

very nice interpretation and such a clever arrangement

[JupiterIV]

@1Thompsonmusic Why Liszt and Busoni?

[1Thompsonmusic]

@JupiterIV Their greatness as virtuosi is the reason I'm quitting. Had enough of wasting time

[JupiterIV]

@1Thompsonmusic That shouldn't be a reason to quit, but for one to try harder. That's what I've learned from their music.

[evitaercx]

@1Thompsonmusic What do you mean?

[Jazzanswer]

Interesting.

Busoni is expressing the way a stringed instrument would play the chords as well as "pianistic" chords.

I'm glad we have the interpretation by the person who created such a well-known and often performed arrangement.

Vive les piano rolls and the advanced methods of recording touch as well as notes, and vive modern technology for giving us a window into the times, minds and hearts of people whose artistry would otherwise be unavailable to us.

[BoeingB17FF]

I like the Rubinstein playing better...

[jorgefuentes90]

I personally hate this version, I think it's completely anti-bach

[Stehnz]

@jorgefuentes90 its not bach its bach-busoni so its fine

I personnaly love this version

[kinkajoes]

aaargh I don't like this version!

[3intelligents]

Busoni plays ??.

[wnaenni]

Wann ist diese Aufnahme entstanden?

[thepianistchef]

Greattttt besttttt  i like

[berlinzerberus]

arrau once said that busoni might be probably the greatest interpreter since liszt.

listening to this i must agree!

[shela2]

For me , It is The Most thrilling composition of Busoni , however he himself played it . that he could leave for other pianists to follow and inspire others. ad finitum........

[oracle2world]

Busoni arranged it for the tempos he plays. He is not going to arrange something he can't play.

[enantiodrom]

Comincio a temere che si possano far rivivere i dinosauri. Non so cosa andate blaterando: chiunque sia il pianista l'intepretazione è stupefacente. Sembra a tratti di vedere i movimenti dell'archetto sulle doppie corde. Se poi si tratti davvero di un rullo rielaborato di Ferruccio Busoni, allora, l'unico che in Italia può chiarirci l'arcano è Piero Rattalino

[aardvaark069]

These piano roll performances should be identified as such.

[Haeronthegreat]

Isn't it odd how all the 'the composer plays it the right way all the time!' sentiment disappears when the composer plays a little out of the ordinary...

[larkinmusic021]

is not the audio quality too good fot being from before 1924???

[codonauta]

Yes, it's very interesting to hear the Busoni himself playing the Chaccone, but this is not the best perfomance of the Bach/Busoni Chaccone I've ever heard, I sure about that.

[tasteism]

@codonauta I agree, it is very unsteady.

[jsnauwaert]

He uses a lot of "tricks" (sudden accelarations, exaggerated emphasis,...), which I don't like too much.

[sqdge]

The recording is taken from a Piano Roll (grooves on a sheet of paper that get fed into a special piano) that he recorded. The recording that you hear was then made many years after he died - which is why it is such high quality. But it is still, technically, him playing it. Fascinating Fact # 617!

[jubulalau]

Thank you so much for uploading this.

Made my day.

[rvn10rvn17]

i still like michelangeli much more than this.. sorry busoni..

[codonauta]

Yes, I prefer Michelangeli's version too.

Busoni's version is not clean in some parts, for me. Michelangeli's version is clean from the beginning to the end.

[Neilhoven]

Playing that's beyond technique.

[xper2xper]

what a dazzling performance.. peak of musicality...

[callenishss]

priceless!

[callenishss]

wow its really busoni...!

[filippeo85]

no is not.I have whole cd

[manoskitsikop]

Do you know when he recorded it?

[evoone1024]

@filippeo85

I want to know do you have the whole detail about this CD's from Busoni's playing?

[redrothko]

this is busoni? are you kidding? i'm reminded of the guy posting fake rachmaninov on youtube.

[bradleighstockwell]

It's all true. Busoni recorded his transcription on piano rolls for Duo-Art - Catalog number 6928. There's now a market for CDS of these rolls played back and recorded with modern equipment. I believe Busoni made his recording in the 1920s. And Rachmoninoff? Yep. Go to Amazon and type "rachmaninoff ampico." His "new" digital work is amazing!

[bradleighstockwell]

Type a YouTube search for "Busoni on a Duo-Art" and you'll see a Busoni piano roll in action. These playbacks are what's recorded to give us these hypothetically accurate performances.

[JupiterIV]

Who posted fake Rachmaninoff?

[tigrankalevian]

Oh, qué interesante escuchar al propio busoni interpretando su transcripción. Dista de ese virtuosismo casi maquinal (pero igualmente alucinante) de pianistas más modernos, pero tiene una musicalidad romántica maravillosa. Gracias por copartir esta joya

[nico22059]

Busoni no era virtuoso?? Busoni tuvo una técnica y una musicalidad impresionantes, ningún pianista de hoy en día le pisa los tobillos, más que nada en cuanto a técnica se refiere...esa generación de músicos (no solo pianistas, sino también violinistas, por ej) está casi a años luz de distancia de lo que son los músicos actuales (sin desmerecerlos, hay muchos músicos excelentes, pero ninguno iguala esa generación de virtuosos)

[lokopiano]

¿NO?

Y que fue Michelangelli, Rubisntein , Horowitz?

Lokopiano.

[nico22059]

musicos y virtuosos...ambas cosas

Aunque, en verdad la tecnica no es un fin en si mismo, simplemente es una herramienta que debe servir para hacer musica...

[lokopiano]

Uhmmm eso está mejor.

Busoni fue considerado "El diablo mecánico" nada menos que por Artur Rubinstein, pero como repito, esa generaci´`on de virtuosos fue coronada por Busoni. Paralela a ella vino la generaciòn de monstruos como Horowitz, Rubisntein y michelangelli ( que sin ser mi total favorito) creo que es quien ha poseído la técnica mas gigante de todos los tiempos. Ni Pollini ni la Argerich le llegan a igualar.

Lokopiano.

[zicekanelo]

interesantes su comentarios, coincido contigo que no habra otros como Rubinstein, Horowitz, Michelangelli, y agregaria a Sviatoslav Richter, es la perfeccion de la tecnica pianistica, aunque a mi gusto Horowitz era demasido mecanico..

[lokopiano]

Gracias. Lo que sí, en algo desearía ser puntual y esto es respecto a Richter.

Muy al márgen del gran músico que fue específicamente para cierto tipo de música, técnicamente existe una gran contradicción: Su habilidad digital y su psicomotricidad han sido alucinantes, pero sin embargo su impostación técnica tuvo inifinidad de defectos, los cuales, obviamente a el no le hicieron merma en absoluto.

Bueno, estamos en contacto a través de YT

lokopiano.

[zicekanelo]

en eso tienes razon, el solo se encargo mas en compositores romanticos como Chopin y Debussy por mencionar algunos, no tocaba a Bach porque decia que no habian sido escritas para piano sino para clavecin, pero cuando escuches las Baladas de Chopin tocadas por Richter te das cuenta del genio que fue, eso si lejos de los monstruos antes mencionados..

[GeorgeMaxwellDuPre]

Cuanto más escucho, me convence que Argerich posee técnica la más impresionante que otro pianista. Pero la falta a veces mucho en terminos de musicalidad y expresión.

[suzettegm]

fully agree with yukily07, thanks!

[yukily07]

Didn't know THIS existed... All the thanks of listners around the world go to the poster.

[stienwayz]

If anybody has the scanned roll to this... send it to me please and I will record it! It has been one of the pieces I have wanted to make a recording of for A LONG TIME!

[X52SY]

It's wonderful, many thanks for this video. I also appreciate a pianist called Nuccio Trotta. He's unkown but I'd like to invite watching his performances because I think that's a pianist worth listening in to. Thanks.

[aewanko300]

1920's.

[nickus32000]

When is this from? It's obviously a piano-roll. Welte?

[aewanko300]

I think this is from Duo-Art. It could be Welte-Mignon.

[stienwayz]

Duo-Art!

[jinfiesto]

Busoni recorded for Duo-art