the african who speaks elementary english, grew up in some war-torn shithole, and has lived here for just a few years and got his new passport stamped yesterday is just as american as apple pie. the liberal turks said it so it must be true.
The runner is actually a Christian who's very involved in my local community, married to an American woman, and deeply concerned for the welfare of his home country.
I don't understand why people are commenting on his not being born here and having to apply for citizenship. Most of you probably have no idea what it is like to give up the land of your birth and accept a different homeland. Who cares what physiological or physical advantages he might have gotten growing up where he did, I'm sure he also had many disadvantages. As Cenk said, they didn't get to be American by birth, they got it the harder way, and to me the better way, by choice
Meb is every bit as American as a Toyota made and driven in Japan for 12 years, imported to the US, and licensed in 1998
The controversy with Meb is that he was East African (like Kenyans and Ethiopians) and grew up at altitude, giving him genetic and physiological advantages over most American-born athletes
The same controversy surrounds Bernard Lagat, a former Kenyan who has medalled 4 times for the USA since becoming a citizen in 2004
Yes, she is right. Nobody cared that Obama wasn't born here. If you are not born in America, you should not be able to participate in any events except the Special Olympics. Like Barack Obama, he is not actually the President, he is more like the Special Olympics president. He gets to Golf, and go on T.V. everyday because noone really wants to hurt his feelings and then he will have to put his helmet on so he dont hurt himself. They give him a ribbon whether he wins or loses.
Over 90% of people living in America don't have 100% American blood. Since they're descendants of Europeans who originally immigrated there. Go figure.
The point is, is that Kenyans are the ones who win. So having an American born, is different, since they are built differently. If a dude from Kenya rides a camel over here, and wins, it doesn't mean an american won
As much as the lib in my heart wants to agree with the idea that this guy is a true american, I have to be honest and keep it real right now since cenk and ana aren't. I was born and raised and lived my whole life in appalachia, if I were to move to New York and lived there for ten years would i then be a New Yorker. I don't believe anybody would say that i was just as much of a New Yorker as someone born and raised there, and i would always consider myself to be an appalachian. am i off base?
i don't totally disagree with what cenk is saying, but lets keep it real. people come to this country because of the opportunities not because they just "love" america so much.
You are right everybody came here for a reason. The European ancestors came not because they "love America so much" as you put it. They came because they were being persecuted so it was a matter of safe haven for them. The Africans were chained and brought here like cargo- that I know they didn't like one bit. So everybody got here for a reason and many not so much about "the love for america"
You are right. Bruce Willis calls himself a full blooded American even though he was not born here. Alexander Hamilton the first treasury secretary of the US was born on a Caribbean Island of Saint Croix and he obviously will say he's an American if he were alive today. So not been born here doesn't make you less of an American than if you were.
I agree w/Cenk, naturalized citizens work 2become Americans, from the struggles to get here, to staying here by jumping thru legal hoops & taking tests whereas born citizens are just given the same rights and opportunities the imigrants work for. I was born here & while I am proud to be an American I didn't choose & work to become one.
Native Americans migrated as well, just earlier. They came from Asia across Canadian routes. Every land and region on the planet was colonized by homo sapien ancestry a first time, except maybe the Savana region where primates first started standing upright. Based on your definition, no one is a bona fide national of ANY country.
On the other hand, the USA has only existed since 1776, so, in that sense, earlier indigenous inhabitants were not really Americans at all.
Yes Natives migrated. But the thing is who came and met who? Israelis claim the present land they are on right now belonged to them some 2000 years ago so all Arabs[palestinians] have no right to form their own state even though they came to meet them there. So it's more about who came and occupied the land first.
That doesn't work either. The lands we call today Israel and Palestine have changed hands many times, and the first inhabitants of those territories most likely didn't have an official tribal name. Their language was probably very limited too, if not non-existant. Do you see the problem? There are no magic parameters we can apply to define what makes someone the rightful owner of any land. Everything was discovered, fought for, reinhabited, then fought for again. Historically, might makes right.
Indeed very true. That makes me wonder why some of our Euro-Americans feel the have more rights to this land than the Afro-Americans do. Some go to the extent of telling blacks to "Go back to Africa where they belong". Tea baggers had signs reading " Go back to Kenya" during the tea party.
Wow. Okay, I like the male broadcaster, but that whiny bitch? Really? Dont talk down to S. Korea. We are an old cultured country. Thats why our culture is based on respect. Respect to the elderly, respect to our neighbors, etc. Don't talk like that. Just because you are American does not mean you can talk down to other cultures. Being American does not make you superior. Nice outfit btw, slutty whore.
You sir, are an idiot. She was talking about the fact that you have to be "full-blooded" in order to be considered part of the country/culture or you're looked at as an outcast. Is this not true? She (among many other people around the world) believes that you don't have to be born in a country to become part of it and represent. She wasn't talking down to any culture, fool. "That's why our culture is based on respect"...lol what does that have to do with anything? So is Japan and China.
Im sorry 'fool.' I just take offense when slutty women who think they know everything about the world talk DOWN to country I love. S. Korea IS an old-cultured country, much because it IS centered around respect. Okay? Go fuck yourself and start arguing with someone else.
its the older white people who think they are the real americans but don't realize the sacrifices others made!!! and don't forget this land was stolen and slavery and.........................you know I'm right!
@mrcutlass911 i think your mistaken. the older generation is the one that protected this country from its enemies by fighting in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. If anyone knows about sacrifices then its that older generation. You're right the land was stolen but slavery wasn't America's idea. African tribe leaders actually sold other Africans who were their prisoners of war into slavery to both the British and Americans.
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In truth to all our family's tree history. Our families were all immigrants to this area of the world, which we established as the United States. So there is no need to discriminate on anybody whether they were born here or came here and became citizens of this country.
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"I love this country" - Cenk. Actually you love collectivism, you didn't love the country until Dear Leader was elected. Before that, you hated the country.
I'm sick people, sick and tired of it all. I'm sick of feeling guilty of my skin color, tired of apologizing for something none of us had control over. A couple of generations away from living in Ireland or Portugal where this argument probably wouldn't even matter to me. Maybe that's why there are so many racists out there. Guilt combined with ignorance and fear becomes hate. From hate comes the kkk and the neo-nazis. I don't agree with them, but I try to understand why. The world is crazy man.
Replying to my own comment yeah I know. But for better or worse I've had another thought, more appropriately an idea. What if we made the citizenship test mandatory at age 18? If not that, then I truly believe we should remove it altogether. When natural born Americans, as we're called, are more likely to fail the test than immigrants are; the purpose of the test is lost. 18 is the voting age, how can we allow people that are so ignorant of this country that they fail a citizenship test vote?
Got to really wonder about the writer of that article. The last American who won, was born in Cuba, but the writer didn't say anything about him not being American born. I just have to wonder if there isn't another reason Meb just wasn't "American" enough.
once you are naturalized you are just as american as a born american. ive seen those kind of people who are bitter of natralized americans. the sad thing is those who are naturalized can appreciate america's virtues more than those who take it for granted like the bitter folks.
To the people debating Meb's nationality: Meb is definetly not American because he's from a different country and even though he immigrated to America years ago, became a U.S. Citizen, and is proud to represent our country, that still doesn't make him an American. I guess any American with non-Native American heritage isn't really American either. And this is sarcasm in case some of you morons didn't catch it.
BTW, What the hell does Obama have to do with any of this??
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Yah the Young Turks announcer is the most American guy in the whole country...that's why he hyped up rare missteps by our troops in Iraq, while saying nothing of the constant daily terrorist atrocities. On how many programs did you mention Abu Ghraib where terrorists were humiliated? And how many programs did you devote to each of the restaurant bombings, pet market bombings, beheadings for wearing tennis shorts, etc committed by the jihadi animals they were fighting. What an All-American!
The one who directs 99.99% of the time they spend decrying atrocities in the overseas wars against those committing 99.99% of the deliberate atrocities over there---the jihadi animals, not US troops.
You missed my point entirely. Instead of bitching about another country's problems, he bitches about our own preventable problems. And when our troops do something problematic, he points that out too. Because if he doesn't, then who will? The terrorists? Terrorists don't want to see America improved, they want to see more mistakes. Cenk is trying to prevent those mistakes from ever happening again.
To me, that is more American than being a broken record saying "I hate the enemies of America"
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yet more anti american bias from the anti-american network, whenever america succeeds why do liberals always say we didnt deserve it, and obama was born in kenya and liberals still support him, but the constitution forbids him from being fuhrer (one because of the bill of rights which obama has routinely ignored) and two because you have to be born of two american parents in america, cenk and ana are destroying america so i bet their from iraq or north korea.
OK, you are talking about nothing. Maybe I think because I'm not American and have never been there but quite pointless to know. Those are not even real news, we don't have the same problem with Russians and They don't even give interviews in our language. Won the olympics-cool
"Back to Africa"? Obama was born in Hawai'i you moron. His other residence in America's Heartland for chrissakes. As far as that athlete goes, he's a legal citizen. Stop being a fucking racist.
This guy originally comes from Eritrea..not Kenya. Yes, they are different countries just as the USA and Honduras are different countries. Even though you have no idea where they are on a map, they are two different places.
Obama's father was from Kenya. But Obama was born in the USA. Your father's nationality has nothing to do with your citizenship.
Well, I have no idea what you're responding to, but there is some speculation as to if Obama was born in the U.S.A. They were advertising his birth place in Kenya.
Don't play that dumb. You are just a another "birther" who just cannot accept that Obama is your President. You believe what you want no matter how god damned ridiculous it is. That man was born in Hawaii just as his birth certificate says.
No, I can accept he is our president. I don't support him, but I accept it. I keep up with his actions and when he makes a good one, I support it. When he makes a bad one, I don't support it. I'm not one of those Republicans who look at every bad thing. I look at good and bad.
So if this country were attacked again and the President took action you would not support him? Hell, I thought Bush was an illegitimate president for the way the 2000 election was conducted, but when it came down to it I was behind him 100% when this country was attacked on Sept 11th.
As for your criteria for judging the president, that is the way you should judge any person in office.
You have a point there that will fly right over 97% of people's heads because of the deep cultural biases people have been indoctrinated into. The Americas, Africa, South Asia, Southeast Asia and Australia were fin pre-Age of "Discovery" by the European pirates who illegally appropriated huge swathes of lands, peoples, and continents for themselves by way of the gun and sword. Those places did not need the nor benefit that much from the so-called "civilizing" colonial rule.
I know it'll go over their heads but it needed to be said. But I guess this needs to be said too. I don't blame all "white folks" just the fuckers that ruined it all. In addition, those people who missed my point (as you so cogently put it) need to rethink their notion of "civilized". I don't think stealing, rape, murder & abject exploitation is "civil" practice. But hey, who am I?
LOL haha gotta hate those "fake" Americans. You know, those damn immigrants that have been coming to America since the 1700's and weren't actually born here. How dare they win a race in the name of America.
If i was the dude, i'd be repping my home country that raised me until the age of 22. not the new country i happened to come to for financial reasons that doesn't even appreciate you. Where ever you go, Eritreans will call you brother.
Haha! I'm Native American... WHICH MEANS I'M MORE AMERICAN THAN ANNNNYYYYOOOONNNEEEEEE!!!
jk. Anna is right, plus, the fact that he was able to past the citizenship test - a test which studies prove that most Americans fail - is spectacular, meaning he really, really wanted to be American. He's American because he chose to be, not by an accident of birth.
I was born in puerto rico, which is a common wealth land with U.S.A. and even when I moved to the main land people don't cosider me a real american, though I've been living here for 13 years and know more about the U.S. history and goverment than alot of "real americans" I know, which is a shame. Its a shame the mentality in this country.
Knowing or not knowing about US history doesn't make you any more or any less an American. Naturally people who are born in America feel more "American" than people who weren't born here, it's natural to feel that way. Bottom line is once you become a citizen then you're an American. Only downside is you can never be President, no big loss because that job sucks and doesn't pay enough for all the bullshit you have to put up with :-P
My point about knowing U.S. history was because I'm proud enough to be interested in it, I bother to learn about my own country, I let my words and actions speak more louder that way than having them go out empty when I say Im proud to be american like many people know who can't even point out whos the second president of the united states or the year of our independence. They don't even care, yet think are more americanthan I because I wasnt born in the mainland.
NewYorkCityUSA7 You must not know ur constitution very well>.>. In Article II: The Executive branch it CLEARLY STATES,
"No person except a NATURAL born Citizen, or a CITIZEN OF the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
"at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution"
You seem to have overlooked this part. If you were a citizen before the adoption of the constitution, then you would be eligible. I don't think anyone is that old, though.
If lostchild waits another year and he wants to be president by the law of the contitution he has a right to do so after another year if he wanted to be president. I always amazes me that people in our own usa don't know this still=o. as long as the person has been here for 14 years which for lost child is just ONE more year he can be president if he wanted to=o.
Puerto ricans are citizen by consideration "naturally born". We are common wealth. Me if I wanted to run to be president I'd have the same eligability as McCain did when he was running for president. He was born in U.S. territory but in Panama, meaning not in the main land. I was born in U.S. teritory, just outside of the mainland as well. Seriously, educate your self
Yes, of course, I should've clarified I'm not talking about the man himself, he should be proud. And if he feels proud to be an American more power to him, that's great.
I was talking more about having this debate about "real Americans", "native born" and what have you. And people saying "An American won some race so I feel proud" like they accomplished something other than watching it on TV. (and it goes for other countries too, not just America.)
Honestly who the hell cares if he has a bit of paper that says he's American or whatever. Who even cares where he was born? It's HIS accomplishment, it's not America's, neither is it of the country he was born in.
This stupid jingoism takes all the fun out of sports.
question? - if a world class soccer player moved to america and got his citisinship would he be allowed to play for the national team? and i mean a player that hasnt already playedfor another country.
here in scotland its if uve been here for 5 years or more then your allowed
"...in Scotland its if uve been here for 5 years..."
Nonsense. You can apply for British citizenship after 5 years of residence. But to play for any of the teams (England, Scotland, etc) you need to be born in Britain or having a British parent or grandparent
that is something, if he became a legal citizen then he's an american. but one comedian one said how can anyone be called illegal in a country that's established by thieves, and is now run by crooks, lol.
He came here when he was 12. He is an American runner. The last American to win the marathon was Cuban American (born in Cuba, came as a baby) and he said people are only saying this because of race. They accepted him because he looked white. It was in the NY Times a few days ago.
for all you fu**ers that say that race doesn't matter anymore...well you've got a few people from your family that def. want to keep sh** the way it is.
if the runner was damn WHITE we wouldn't be having this conversation and we would be ROASTING the FUCK out of that dude.
so many people really haven't changed.
people tell you in your face, they're not a biggot or prejudice...lol...
I think that the reporter just messed up his words and ending up saying something he didn't mean to say. He was just pointing out that this African guy is a better distance runner than any person from the U.S. And had he not been forced out of his country by war decades ago 2009 would have been yet another losing year for the U.S. in its own New York Marathon. Basically the reporter said "we got lucky"
My personal experience with trying to be a working American over the period of quite a long time makes me believe that it's also a good place for evil bastards to get ahead at the cost of others.
oh please get over it. he's american. be it american born or not. he's a citizen. stop ur crying cause his last name isn't smith or johnson. if he was illegal then go boo hoo to your mother cause you have a reason to. but americans are immigrants and decendent of immigrants ppl come to this country everyday and become citizens. you feel so hard about it go run and win the fuckin marathon yourself.
So let me get this straight. Because I was born in this country I'ma real American BUT If I was born in another country and moved here then I'm an Amnerican but not a REAL American.
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RadarGuidedVermin 1 month ago
HAIL MEB
Svartljus 10 months ago
if it was Osama bin laden hwo won, they say " we been over there too long " ......go usa....pleace! There is no sutch thing as a real american.
Gnibens 11 months ago
He's a citizen, that's good enough for me.
SmokeyCough 1 year ago
the african who speaks elementary english, grew up in some war-torn shithole, and has lived here for just a few years and got his new passport stamped yesterday is just as american as apple pie. the liberal turks said it so it must be true.
channelswimmer 1 year ago
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schmui 2 months ago
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WHAT WAR TORN SHIT HOLE?IS THAT UR DISEASED ANUS?
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5jorgelk4life5 7 months ago
You don't care about the marathon you piece of shit fat fuck reporter because you can't run shit. Fuck tyt
melovetorun 1 year ago
@melovetorun
he doesnt care about the marathon coz he is bulky and fatty
goldenboyi1989 1 month ago
The runner is actually a Christian who's very involved in my local community, married to an American woman, and deeply concerned for the welfare of his home country.
CyborgNinja7 1 year ago
Wow...I love Ana's top. Her hair falling into her cleavage. Seriously hot. Very distracting.
lesmcluffalot 2 years ago 3
I was getting distracted by that too
TheInfamousCanadian 1 year ago
I don't understand why people are commenting on his not being born here and having to apply for citizenship. Most of you probably have no idea what it is like to give up the land of your birth and accept a different homeland. Who cares what physiological or physical advantages he might have gotten growing up where he did, I'm sure he also had many disadvantages. As Cenk said, they didn't get to be American by birth, they got it the harder way, and to me the better way, by choice
jifler 2 years ago
I guess then that based on this logic, the former national Security Adviser Zgbigniew Brzezinski is in the same category as the marathon winner.
Or maybe not, the runner is black, the former is not black. Tell me I am wrong and I hope I am wrong. That is amazing !!!!!
tarpumpphillips 2 years ago
Meb is every bit as American as a Toyota made and driven in Japan for 12 years, imported to the US, and licensed in 1998
The controversy with Meb is that he was East African (like Kenyans and Ethiopians) and grew up at altitude, giving him genetic and physiological advantages over most American-born athletes
The same controversy surrounds Bernard Lagat, a former Kenyan who has medalled 4 times for the USA since becoming a citizen in 2004
I'll flip when a kid from Queens or Michigan wins
manonthemount 2 years ago
Queens or Michigan lol. That would surely take a while. Lets say in 80 years time?
kakompo 2 years ago
Dathan Ritzenhein
manonthemount 2 years ago
He won a few times?
kakompo 2 years ago
no wins, just a medal in World Half-Marathon Championships and the American 5k record
manonthemount 2 years ago
Still good. No Olympic gold yet? He'll get there..eventually
kakompo 2 years ago
Yes, she is right. Nobody cared that Obama wasn't born here. If you are not born in America, you should not be able to participate in any events except the Special Olympics. Like Barack Obama, he is not actually the President, he is more like the Special Olympics president. He gets to Golf, and go on T.V. everyday because noone really wants to hurt his feelings and then he will have to put his helmet on so he dont hurt himself. They give him a ribbon whether he wins or loses.
bigdogsdontbark 2 years ago
Why the fuck would anybody say that?
motelcalifornia 2 years ago
Over 90% of people living in America don't have 100% American blood. Since they're descendants of Europeans who originally immigrated there. Go figure.
Saaduk92 2 years ago
The point is, is that Kenyans are the ones who win. So having an American born, is different, since they are built differently. If a dude from Kenya rides a camel over here, and wins, it doesn't mean an american won
iquit4gud 2 years ago
As much as the lib in my heart wants to agree with the idea that this guy is a true american, I have to be honest and keep it real right now since cenk and ana aren't. I was born and raised and lived my whole life in appalachia, if I were to move to New York and lived there for ten years would i then be a New Yorker. I don't believe anybody would say that i was just as much of a New Yorker as someone born and raised there, and i would always consider myself to be an appalachian. am i off base?
TheFatboy1800 2 years ago
i don't totally disagree with what cenk is saying, but lets keep it real. people come to this country because of the opportunities not because they just "love" america so much.
TheFatboy1800 2 years ago
You are right everybody came here for a reason. The European ancestors came not because they "love America so much" as you put it. They came because they were being persecuted so it was a matter of safe haven for them. The Africans were chained and brought here like cargo- that I know they didn't like one bit. So everybody got here for a reason and many not so much about "the love for america"
kakompo 2 years ago
why does it make a difference were someone is born. bruce Willis was born in Germany, try telling him hes not american.
socarulz 2 years ago
You are right. Bruce Willis calls himself a full blooded American even though he was not born here. Alexander Hamilton the first treasury secretary of the US was born on a Caribbean Island of Saint Croix and he obviously will say he's an American if he were alive today. So not been born here doesn't make you less of an American than if you were.
kakompo 2 years ago
I agree w/Cenk, naturalized citizens work 2become Americans, from the struggles to get here, to staying here by jumping thru legal hoops & taking tests whereas born citizens are just given the same rights and opportunities the imigrants work for. I was born here & while I am proud to be an American I didn't choose & work to become one.
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TheSocialBear1 2 years ago
there is no such thing as a real American besides Native Americas
every person that is so called American Born has to have some lineage of an immigrant one time or another in thier past
sniporay 2 years ago 11
Native Americans migrated as well, just earlier. They came from Asia across Canadian routes. Every land and region on the planet was colonized by homo sapien ancestry a first time, except maybe the Savana region where primates first started standing upright. Based on your definition, no one is a bona fide national of ANY country.
On the other hand, the USA has only existed since 1776, so, in that sense, earlier indigenous inhabitants were not really Americans at all.
dookdawg214 2 years ago
Yes Natives migrated. But the thing is who came and met who? Israelis claim the present land they are on right now belonged to them some 2000 years ago so all Arabs[palestinians] have no right to form their own state even though they came to meet them there. So it's more about who came and occupied the land first.
kakompo 2 years ago
That doesn't work either. The lands we call today Israel and Palestine have changed hands many times, and the first inhabitants of those territories most likely didn't have an official tribal name. Their language was probably very limited too, if not non-existant. Do you see the problem? There are no magic parameters we can apply to define what makes someone the rightful owner of any land. Everything was discovered, fought for, reinhabited, then fought for again. Historically, might makes right.
dookdawg214 2 years ago
Indeed very true. That makes me wonder why some of our Euro-Americans feel the have more rights to this land than the Afro-Americans do. Some go to the extent of telling blacks to "Go back to Africa where they belong". Tea baggers had signs reading " Go back to Kenya" during the tea party.
kakompo 2 years ago
@sniporay meb keflezgi was born in africa which is the reason he is mostly likly that he is a good runner. hes kenyan not american end of story
TheRunningLife 1 month ago
Wow. Okay, I like the male broadcaster, but that whiny bitch? Really? Dont talk down to S. Korea. We are an old cultured country. Thats why our culture is based on respect. Respect to the elderly, respect to our neighbors, etc. Don't talk like that. Just because you are American does not mean you can talk down to other cultures. Being American does not make you superior. Nice outfit btw, slutty whore.
backoswacko10 2 years ago
You sir, are an idiot. She was talking about the fact that you have to be "full-blooded" in order to be considered part of the country/culture or you're looked at as an outcast. Is this not true? She (among many other people around the world) believes that you don't have to be born in a country to become part of it and represent. She wasn't talking down to any culture, fool. "That's why our culture is based on respect"...lol what does that have to do with anything? So is Japan and China.
Valtheos 2 years ago
Im sorry 'fool.' I just take offense when slutty women who think they know everything about the world talk DOWN to country I love. S. Korea IS an old-cultured country, much because it IS centered around respect. Okay? Go fuck yourself and start arguing with someone else.
backoswacko10 2 years ago
its the older white people who think they are the real americans but don't realize the sacrifices others made!!! and don't forget this land was stolen and slavery and.........................you know I'm right!
mrcutlass911 2 years ago
@mrcutlass911 i think your mistaken. the older generation is the one that protected this country from its enemies by fighting in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. If anyone knows about sacrifices then its that older generation. You're right the land was stolen but slavery wasn't America's idea. African tribe leaders actually sold other Africans who were their prisoners of war into slavery to both the British and Americans.
trueathlete15 2 years ago
Americans came from Europe so real American means Europeans? Your argument doesn't make sense. You can't explain me what a real American is.
RezzaNL 2 years ago
im a real american
LorcaAdonai 2 years ago
Cenk claims to be the most American person in the country, but he isn't American enough to run for president.
korrdxl 2 years ago
Correction: he isn't born in America.
Totally unrelated to being American.
Zander73 2 years ago
Cenk, are you sure you beat out Craig Ferguson as the best American. What about Christopher Hitchens?
I was adopted by my parents and always told my sister that mom and dad loved me more because they "chose me" and just "got you."
RonWolf 2 years ago
Meb is from Eritrea rather than Kenya as you said.
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LOCKERZFTW23 2 years ago
cnbc is the same thing as fox news, why doesn't Obama wage war against them?
tico8007 2 years ago
In truth to all our family's tree history. Our families were all immigrants to this area of the world, which we established as the United States. So there is no need to discriminate on anybody whether they were born here or came here and became citizens of this country.
dmp079 2 years ago
dude...what an asshole.
what a fucking asshole.
CooperLordOfAll 2 years ago
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"I love this country" - Cenk. Actually you love collectivism, you didn't love the country until Dear Leader was elected. Before that, you hated the country.
wantwit 2 years ago
not at all fagbag
jackylegs93 2 years ago
5 points for fallacy.
k4hbloodshed 2 years ago
So, following your logic, because Obama is now president, you hate America?
thef13nd138 2 years ago
Actually I do hate this country but its been since around 2002. That's why I favor civil war.
wantwit 2 years ago
I hope all the stupid fucking people (like you) in this country try. At least than we'll be rid them.
thef13nd138 2 years ago
Good, we need more liberals who understand that left and right can no longer coexist.
wantwit 2 years ago
Ana is ultra sexy today. Nomnomnom
Selax 2 years ago
I'm sick people, sick and tired of it all. I'm sick of feeling guilty of my skin color, tired of apologizing for something none of us had control over. A couple of generations away from living in Ireland or Portugal where this argument probably wouldn't even matter to me. Maybe that's why there are so many racists out there. Guilt combined with ignorance and fear becomes hate. From hate comes the kkk and the neo-nazis. I don't agree with them, but I try to understand why. The world is crazy man.
TheK00laid47 2 years ago 9
People can be assholes man. If people can't accept you for who you are, let them keep their head up their ass.
xxxsssxxxsss 2 years ago
I just read your comment and I have to say that it probably one of the most profound ones I've read on YT. Thanks...
rickamabob13 2 years ago
Replying to my own comment yeah I know. But for better or worse I've had another thought, more appropriately an idea. What if we made the citizenship test mandatory at age 18? If not that, then I truly believe we should remove it altogether. When natural born Americans, as we're called, are more likely to fail the test than immigrants are; the purpose of the test is lost. 18 is the voting age, how can we allow people that are so ignorant of this country that they fail a citizenship test vote?
TheK00laid47 2 years ago
I agree. I don't think we should have citizenship tests for anyone. If you want to live here, you can.
Zander73 2 years ago
Got to really wonder about the writer of that article. The last American who won, was born in Cuba, but the writer didn't say anything about him not being American born. I just have to wonder if there isn't another reason Meb just wasn't "American" enough.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago 2
sort of. not really
SPARTAN118mj 2 years ago
once you are naturalized you are just as american as a born american. ive seen those kind of people who are bitter of natralized americans. the sad thing is those who are naturalized can appreciate america's virtues more than those who take it for granted like the bitter folks.
wrinkleypp 2 years ago
Interesting video.
To the people debating Meb's nationality: Meb is definetly not American because he's from a different country and even though he immigrated to America years ago, became a U.S. Citizen, and is proud to represent our country, that still doesn't make him an American. I guess any American with non-Native American heritage isn't really American either. And this is sarcasm in case some of you morons didn't catch it.
BTW, What the hell does Obama have to do with any of this??
missnicointokyo 2 years ago 4
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Yah the Young Turks announcer is the most American guy in the whole country...that's why he hyped up rare missteps by our troops in Iraq, while saying nothing of the constant daily terrorist atrocities. On how many programs did you mention Abu Ghraib where terrorists were humiliated? And how many programs did you devote to each of the restaurant bombings, pet market bombings, beheadings for wearing tennis shorts, etc committed by the jihadi animals they were fighting. What an All-American!
RuflessRecords 2 years ago
He can't report on everything. Sorry. No one can.
ArranoGris 2 years ago
And guess what, those terrorist acts weren't in America and he devoted attention to IMPROVING AMERICA.
So you tell me, mr "I support our country's mistakes", who's more American?
Zander73 2 years ago
The one who directs 99.99% of the time they spend decrying atrocities in the overseas wars against those committing 99.99% of the deliberate atrocities over there---the jihadi animals, not US troops.
RuflessRecords 2 years ago
You missed my point entirely. Instead of bitching about another country's problems, he bitches about our own preventable problems. And when our troops do something problematic, he points that out too. Because if he doesn't, then who will? The terrorists? Terrorists don't want to see America improved, they want to see more mistakes. Cenk is trying to prevent those mistakes from ever happening again.
To me, that is more American than being a broken record saying "I hate the enemies of America"
Zander73 2 years ago
I'm not American born and i stand up for this country more than the Republicans do.
magter3001 2 years ago 2
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DeagleBeagle 2 years ago
i am afriad only a few nutjobs share your opinion.
lloydreggie 2 years ago
i guess your show should be called the young americans then going by what you're saying, you are so wrong
FaceKillaBloodSpilla 2 years ago
my godfather ran in this marathon lol
cozzy120 2 years ago
I know immigrants who've taken bullets for this, their, our country. I wonder if that reporter would have said the same about them.
jotunobsidianeyes 2 years ago 4
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yet more anti american bias from the anti-american network, whenever america succeeds why do liberals always say we didnt deserve it, and obama was born in kenya and liberals still support him, but the constitution forbids him from being fuhrer (one because of the bill of rights which obama has routinely ignored) and two because you have to be born of two american parents in america, cenk and ana are destroying america so i bet their from iraq or north korea.
tehant1liberal 2 years ago
You could've at least written something coherent.
upabittoolate 2 years ago
Despite the Hawaiian government personally saying Obama was born there, you are still saying he is Kenyan. Ridiculous!!!!
SAVSTATENIG 2 years ago
I hope you're joking.
oexnorth 2 years ago
OK, you are talking about nothing. Maybe I think because I'm not American and have never been there but quite pointless to know. Those are not even real news, we don't have the same problem with Russians and They don't even give interviews in our language. Won the olympics-cool
dontlayeggs 2 years ago
To be American you must love money, eat a LOT, and have abs. Note: the abs don't have to show, you can even have a one pack.
AustinBerchtold 2 years ago
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Oh, look another kenyan, maybe he can give Obama a lift home.
xxxRightThePowerxxx 2 years ago
The Secret Service gives Obama a lift. He lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Deal with it idiot.
upabittoolate 2 years ago
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PUT THEM BOAT IN A BOAT BACK TO AFRICA
xxxRightThePowerxxx 2 years ago
"Back to Africa"? Obama was born in Hawai'i you moron. His other residence in America's Heartland for chrissakes. As far as that athlete goes, he's a legal citizen. Stop being a fucking racist.
upabittoolate 2 years ago 3
They are not poor like you. If they choose to visit a place in Africa they can travel by plan fist class.
You are the one who would need a raft to get there.
FlatulenceFox 2 years ago
You aren't very bright are you?
This guy originally comes from Eritrea..not Kenya. Yes, they are different countries just as the USA and Honduras are different countries. Even though you have no idea where they are on a map, they are two different places.
Obama's father was from Kenya. But Obama was born in the USA. Your father's nationality has nothing to do with your citizenship.
FlatulenceFox 2 years ago
Well, I have no idea what you're responding to, but there is some speculation as to if Obama was born in the U.S.A. They were advertising his birth place in Kenya.
AustinBerchtold 2 years ago
Don't play that dumb. You are just a another "birther" who just cannot accept that Obama is your President. You believe what you want no matter how god damned ridiculous it is. That man was born in Hawaii just as his birth certificate says.
Tough shit for you if you cannot accept that.
FlatulenceFox 2 years ago
No, I can accept he is our president. I don't support him, but I accept it. I keep up with his actions and when he makes a good one, I support it. When he makes a bad one, I don't support it. I'm not one of those Republicans who look at every bad thing. I look at good and bad.
AustinBerchtold 2 years ago
So if this country were attacked again and the President took action you would not support him? Hell, I thought Bush was an illegitimate president for the way the 2000 election was conducted, but when it came down to it I was behind him 100% when this country was attacked on Sept 11th.
As for your criteria for judging the president, that is the way you should judge any person in office.
FlatulenceFox 2 years ago
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I am more American than Cenk. Cenk chose to become an American, but I CHOSE to be born in America.
Richardgwm 2 years ago
So when you were in your moms stomach...you kicked her and said..."hey woman, make sure I'm born in America...you hear me"? Your a TOY
ashrok1982 2 years ago
err... how did you do that?
calumafc1983 2 years ago
You chose where you were born? That's a nice trick. You'll have to show it to me in the next life.
upabittoolate 2 years ago
Richardgwn...you had no more choice to be born American as you had a choice being born retarded.
It was just the cool hand of fate kid. Accept it.
FlatulenceFox 2 years ago
Hypothetical question: If North America was never colonized, would it now be similar to Africa?
TheK00laid47 2 years ago
No, it'd be fine. Just like Africa, the N. America natives were doing fine until white folks came along & decimated the infrastructure.
upabittoolate 2 years ago 5
You have a point there that will fly right over 97% of people's heads because of the deep cultural biases people have been indoctrinated into. The Americas, Africa, South Asia, Southeast Asia and Australia were fin pre-Age of "Discovery" by the European pirates who illegally appropriated huge swathes of lands, peoples, and continents for themselves by way of the gun and sword. Those places did not need the nor benefit that much from the so-called "civilizing" colonial rule.
FlatulenceFox 2 years ago 2
I know it'll go over their heads but it needed to be said. But I guess this needs to be said too. I don't blame all "white folks" just the fuckers that ruined it all. In addition, those people who missed my point (as you so cogently put it) need to rethink their notion of "civilized". I don't think stealing, rape, murder & abject exploitation is "civil" practice. But hey, who am I?
upabittoolate 2 years ago 2
-Africa was colonized. It was the colonial powers that messed it up.
-If a guy steals your home and makes it better, would you accept the same justification for the theft that you are using?
FormerlyKnownAsNopez 2 years ago
Where is the real Americans?!?! I can't see any American Indians around.
RezzaNL 2 years ago
LOL haha gotta hate those "fake" Americans. You know, those damn immigrants that have been coming to America since the 1700's and weren't actually born here. How dare they win a race in the name of America.
*Sarcasm off*.
Please finish off your pathetic life, CNBC toad.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 2 years ago 2
The Native Indians should have had more strict immigration policies!! LOL
Who is truely a citizen of this land??
How soon we forget.
LadyTressa 2 years ago 2
If i was the dude, i'd be repping my home country that raised me until the age of 22. not the new country i happened to come to for financial reasons that doesn't even appreciate you. Where ever you go, Eritreans will call you brother.
chefawkes 2 years ago
This dude won the marathon but wasn't "American enough" for this asshole reporter. Epic Fail for CNBC.
Ajacks1911 2 years ago
If Obama had ran the marathon and won.............conservatives would have said that proves he's Kenyan.
jessie74 2 years ago 12
LOL
jumpchamp08 2 years ago
LOL. Thats fucking brilliant.
Fangtorn 2 years ago
ROTFLMAO!
good one! XD
Ristar85 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA
Zander73 2 years ago
Haha! I'm Native American... WHICH MEANS I'M MORE AMERICAN THAN ANNNNYYYYOOOONNNEEEEEE!!!
jk. Anna is right, plus, the fact that he was able to past the citizenship test - a test which studies prove that most Americans fail - is spectacular, meaning he really, really wanted to be American. He's American because he chose to be, not by an accident of birth.
dakoneko 2 years ago 6
Ana's comment about the CNBC guy is right on--he is a douche.
MaryJesusJoseph 2 years ago
I was born in puerto rico, which is a common wealth land with U.S.A. and even when I moved to the main land people don't cosider me a real american, though I've been living here for 13 years and know more about the U.S. history and goverment than alot of "real americans" I know, which is a shame. Its a shame the mentality in this country.
lostchild06 2 years ago 2
Knowing or not knowing about US history doesn't make you any more or any less an American. Naturally people who are born in America feel more "American" than people who weren't born here, it's natural to feel that way. Bottom line is once you become a citizen then you're an American. Only downside is you can never be President, no big loss because that job sucks and doesn't pay enough for all the bullshit you have to put up with :-P
NewYorkCityUSA7 2 years ago
My point about knowing U.S. history was because I'm proud enough to be interested in it, I bother to learn about my own country, I let my words and actions speak more louder that way than having them go out empty when I say Im proud to be american like many people know who can't even point out whos the second president of the united states or the year of our independence. They don't even care, yet think are more americanthan I because I wasnt born in the mainland.
lostchild06 2 years ago 2
Dude, stop patting yourself on your back, nobody really gives a shit.
NewYorkCityUSA7 2 years ago
NewYorkCityUSA7 You must not know ur constitution very well>.>. In Article II: The Executive branch it CLEARLY STATES,
"No person except a NATURAL born Citizen, or a CITIZEN OF the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
this means NATURAL or LEGAL
PharaohessSetsume 2 years ago
"at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution"
You seem to have overlooked this part. If you were a citizen before the adoption of the constitution, then you would be eligible. I don't think anyone is that old, though.
terminaldeity 2 years ago
That's what I said dumb ass.
NewYorkCityUSA7 2 years ago
Well that's not very nice. We're here to have a discussion not to be childish and send insults to people. What is with people these days?
PharaohessSetsume 2 years ago
If lostchild waits another year and he wants to be president by the law of the contitution he has a right to do so after another year if he wanted to be president. I always amazes me that people in our own usa don't know this still=o. as long as the person has been here for 14 years which for lost child is just ONE more year he can be president if he wanted to=o.
PharaohessSetsume 2 years ago
People from Puerto Rico are US citizens.
terminaldeity 2 years ago
Yeah, but......not really. Different flag kinda lessens that. They should make PR a state.
NewYorkCityUSA7 2 years ago
Puerto ricans are citizen by consideration "naturally born". We are common wealth. Me if I wanted to run to be president I'd have the same eligability as McCain did when he was running for president. He was born in U.S. territory but in Panama, meaning not in the main land. I was born in U.S. teritory, just outside of the mainland as well. Seriously, educate your self
lostchild06 2 years ago
What are you talking about? Anyone born in Puerto Rico is considered a legal US citizen. It's been that way since 1917.
terminaldeity 2 years ago 3
ummm isn't ARNOLD then technically NOT a real american?
chatham2006 2 years ago 4
Bingo!
moebigsley1976 2 years ago
I was born in Texas. So I'm more American than anyone. LOL!
jxsilicon9 2 years ago
Wasn't Texas part of Mexico?
Mxyzptlk562 2 years ago
It was stolen fair and square. No take backs.
jxsilicon9 2 years ago
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Black athletes are all Americans.
The rest of the black population are all a bunch of n***ers
The same in Europe
sansez 2 years ago
damn are you stupid, or trying to be sarcastic
goldgrif 2 years ago
I dream of a world without borders.
devourerofbabies 2 years ago 4
too many people are too selfish to have that, look at the banking crap, and the repugs, but I would love that someday
goldgrif 2 years ago
Non but the native americans are americans /topic
10thAngel 2 years ago
Yes, of course, I should've clarified I'm not talking about the man himself, he should be proud. And if he feels proud to be an American more power to him, that's great.
I was talking more about having this debate about "real Americans", "native born" and what have you. And people saying "An American won some race so I feel proud" like they accomplished something other than watching it on TV. (and it goes for other countries too, not just America.)
The guy himself obviously should be proud :D
megamarsvin 2 years ago
god ultra patriotism is really annoying
slideawayification 2 years ago 4
It's also dangerous.
devourerofbabies 2 years ago
Honestly who the hell cares if he has a bit of paper that says he's American or whatever. Who even cares where he was born? It's HIS accomplishment, it's not America's, neither is it of the country he was born in.
This stupid jingoism takes all the fun out of sports.
megamarsvin 2 years ago
Patriotism is for dumbasses.
megamarsvin 2 years ago 2
question? - if a world class soccer player moved to america and got his citisinship would he be allowed to play for the national team? and i mean a player that hasnt already playedfor another country.
here in scotland its if uve been here for 5 years or more then your allowed
18Scotland73 2 years ago
"...in Scotland its if uve been here for 5 years..."
Nonsense. You can apply for British citizenship after 5 years of residence. But to play for any of the teams (England, Scotland, etc) you need to be born in Britain or having a British parent or grandparent
sansez 2 years ago
its not nonsense they changed the rules not that long ago what i said is right
18Scotland73 2 years ago
to be considered an american you have to be a native american!!!!!!!!!!!
KarateKidX 2 years ago
-2 rating? I can't believe that people actually took that comment seriously
KarateKidX 2 years ago
even if he was born here, where does his blood reside?
this guy wants people to read his story to make him popular.
padre1917 2 years ago
that is something, if he became a legal citizen then he's an american. but one comedian one said how can anyone be called illegal in a country that's established by thieves, and is now run by crooks, lol.
sliferfan 2 years ago 2
come on it´s a country of immigrants so I just don´t understand when this argument comes up....
PolexiaAphrodisia 2 years ago 4
If the runner was white, you can bet the donuts they would not have said this.
Bottom line. America was FOUNDED by immigrants. That's what made the US one of the better countries.
pooyan6969 2 years ago 5
So resuming the story:
The guy isnt american.
Who gives a shit? -_-
The guy won. Yay for him.
andersonxpl 2 years ago
He came here when he was 12. He is an American runner. The last American to win the marathon was Cuban American (born in Cuba, came as a baby) and he said people are only saying this because of race. They accepted him because he looked white. It was in the NY Times a few days ago.
flowergirl1313 2 years ago 6
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Here's a free quote for Progressive: "Fuck off."
AverageAdam 2 years ago
hear hear.
tylerpianist 2 years ago
lol, ppl think your talking about liberals
chefawkes 2 years ago
LOL. Note I didn't say progressives. Either that or people get really defensive over that dumbass car insurance ad before the video.
AverageAdam 2 years ago
Yay TYT! The CNBC reporter was American by accident - the marathon winner is by choice.
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TheThirdHour 2 years ago
for all you fu**ers that say that race doesn't matter anymore...well you've got a few people from your family that def. want to keep sh** the way it is.
if the runner was damn WHITE we wouldn't be having this conversation and we would be ROASTING the FUCK out of that dude.
so many people really haven't changed.
people tell you in your face, they're not a biggot or prejudice...lol...
please.
doctorsizzle 2 years ago
I think that the reporter just messed up his words and ending up saying something he didn't mean to say. He was just pointing out that this African guy is a better distance runner than any person from the U.S. And had he not been forced out of his country by war decades ago 2009 would have been yet another losing year for the U.S. in its own New York Marathon. Basically the reporter said "we got lucky"
Craigipedia 2 years ago
Why do ya'll even entertain Friction? All he does is troll TyT videos while jacking off with bacon grease and mayonnaise.
s13ge 2 years ago 3
like limbaugh he fantasizes about screwing kids, he is a troll, I love to piss the idiot off, like he really has anything to say
Friction is a pedophile
goldgrif 2 years ago
Wow... I dare the douche guy to say that to the Govenator!
Kenjineering 2 years ago
Ahhnold would break his leetle guurlee aahhms!
s13ge 2 years ago
My personal experience with trying to be a working American over the period of quite a long time makes me believe that it's also a good place for evil bastards to get ahead at the cost of others.
hypnofan35 2 years ago
oh please get over it. he's american. be it american born or not. he's a citizen. stop ur crying cause his last name isn't smith or johnson. if he was illegal then go boo hoo to your mother cause you have a reason to. but americans are immigrants and decendent of immigrants ppl come to this country everyday and become citizens. you feel so hard about it go run and win the fuckin marathon yourself.
bulldri9 2 years ago
So let me get this straight. Because I was born in this country I'ma real American BUT If I was born in another country and moved here then I'm an Amnerican but not a REAL American.
What as arsehole.
kwatson813 2 years ago
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