measuring pitchblende lode with Gamma-Scout dosimeter / geiger counter

[HolidayNova]

I would get out of there

[bere5de]

Didn't you know that gamma radiation is bad for yout health? Throw that rock away..!

[BWIENS789]

Is that my geiger counter going crazy or is it me flatlining? It's both!

[Xaphooncat]

there is a wiki-page called "Radiation watch Wiki" where you can enter your measurements with the Geiger-Counter /Dosimeter.

Please spread the word! Thanks.

[Bobster986]

Is XRadiation the same as Alpha?

[bionerd23]

@Bobster986

no, x-radiation is electromagnetic radiation, such as gamma radiation (gamma and x-rays are basically the same; they just have a different origin. the x-rays are produced within electron shells, gamma radiation comes from the atom's core after decay. gamma rays are emitted by radioactive isotopes, while x-rays are typically produced in electron tubes (x-ray tubes)).

[bionerd23]

@billabobzozy

lol, no way. i'd never destroy those beautiful minerals. i'd rather keep them in air-tight but see-through boxes and take them out of their lead cases once in a while to look at just how beautiful they are... i'm a mineral collector. :)

...and you can just find them in nature, like most minerals. see my "finding uranium in nature" videos for details. watch?v=v9DsOyWsNp0

[pikulicluka]

@bionerd23 Aren't these gamma scouts really expensive? Over 400 euros, I reckon...

Is there anything cheaper? Something that can measure small radiation levels like the gamma scout?

Great videos.

Cheers!

Luke.

[thepeach12345]

Its the first time I have seen you wear gloves to hold somthing! Now that stuff must be really bad! ;) btw have you tried getting the program software to work with the gamma scout for the computers with vista? I have a 1 month old brand new gamma scout that came with software and Im thinking of trying to get it pc linked tonight. Hopefully it will work.

[bionerd23]

@thepeach12345

lol, nah, it was just supposed to make it look "posh". those gloves dont protect from radiation, anyway. i'd still rather touch stuff bare-handed and wash my hands thoroughly afterwards, as usually. :)

but yeah, i did get the gamma scout to work with vista now.

[thepeach12345]

@bionerd23 I got mine to work last night, very hard, thank goodness they gave me a hnt in the manuak where t manuakky install it, but hey Auestion, You know that gamma scout website under the download section they show you can do graphs with it . How Do you take the raw data which all I see is code on the tool box reading the GS and take it to a time and graph format?

[bionerd23]

@thepeach12345

save the data - that'll turn it into a *.txt file - and import the file to e.g. excel or any other spreadsheet program that will allow you to make graphs from the data. simply mark the area you want to import and COPY it, then PASTE it into excel or e.g. open office calc. it's how i do it. :)

[thepeach12345]

@thepeach12345 thanks Ill try that tonight, I have mine set to take on a 1 hr intervals, whats yours set at? im reading , give or take .15 micro siver hrt here in az usa.

do u know if doing it at the houly mean it should give me a lower actual gieger reading rather then the ticks and ticks, cause i dont have the formula to covert to micro severt an hr

[BitchCrafstmanship]

cool,but you ll have cancer soon if you do that stuff

[cassiavc]

Geez! I though that uranium was not a good beta/gamma emitter! But almost all of its radioactivity is beta and gamma rays! Uraninite is dangerous.

[bionerd23]

@cassiavc

that's because uranium is in equilibrium with its daughters; many of those radioisotopes down the uranium-radium decay chain are beta emitters, and from radium onward, there are some very hard gamma rays in the mix, too. uranium itself is an alpha emitter.

[cassiavc]

@bionerd23 I have completely forgotten about the time and about the decay chains! But the uraninite contains more uranium than radium or any other decay's product, right? So the alpha emission should be a little bit higher, am I right? I mean, you got like 330microsiervets of beta/gamma rays and only 50microsieverts of alpha radiation. I mean, if the uraninite contains more uranium then radium, then the alpha emission should be higher, because uranium is an alpha emitter. Is it right?

[bionerd23]

@cassiavc

you forgot to take the HALF LIFE into consideration. uranium-238's half life is 4.5 billion years, radium-226's (daughter nuclide of U-238) half life is a mere 1600 years. so yeah, 0.1 grams of Ra-226 would have an activity of about 30 GBq (giga-becquerel, 30 billion decays per second), while 0.1 grams of U-238 just have an activity of 1 KBq (kilo, a thousand decays per second).

i hope i roughly got the numbers right, lol, not sure though - but yeah, you get the idea.

[cassiavc]

Do you have operated before a Kvarts geiger counter?I've been tolded that it is more sensitive to radiation levels then the gamma scout. Is that right?

[bionerd23]

@cassiavc

i dont know of that device, so i cant tell you about that. however, the sensitivity of a geiger mueller counter depends on the size of the tube as well as the size and material of the radiation window. watch?v=I_txeufgt_4

[Barnekkid]

That's a hot rock!

[Bieber1994]

i think, your gloves wont help for the gamma rays ^^ be carefull dude

[cantris]

Bionerd, you're awesome, that is all. :)

[TheKatara1999]

вот это камешек... *отвисла челюсть*

[sovageek]

You need to be more careful. Remember Madam Curie carrying 226 Ra in her lab coat!! She died of bone cancer. That has to be over 1MBq or so so take heed and have a glove box to test and a lead pig to store that in. Hotter than hell fire!!! Careful.

[bionerd23]

@sovageek

she was 66 years old though, much older than my mother who died of lung cancer due to smoking tobacco (and i'm a strict non-smoker, needless to say). ;)

plus, she had tons of uranium ore and a full gram of radium. that's a whole different story than my collection, which is pretty much harmless.

[Renner8592]

My friend that is NOT a harmless specimine especially if the dust becomes airborn. I see your wearing cotton gloves, that;s great for alpha but it's doing you no good for the very hot gama that the piece is putting off. You're playing with fire, if you breath dust with an alpha emitter you could end up with a nasty suprise in five or six years, if it's gamma... welll you should start making your "final arrangements" soon.

If you want to display it put it in a filled fish tank on some quartz

[Renner8592]

@Renner8592 By the way would you be willing to sell that very nice sample of yours? 

[bionerd23]

@Renner8592

that's like asking me to sell my very own child. i'm not answering to such immoral questions! :P

[sovageek]

@Renner8592 if you reply to a comment you MIGHT not reach bionerd23 than if you posted your own comment (maybe/maybe not). Just a heads-up since i got your reply.  If i had any 'play' or 'demo' sources around the house, I certainly would not want them any hotter than 300cpm gamma 500 cpm beta or 1k cpm alpha and still would store it in the tool shack. I just don't want bionerd's or my own face to turn black and peel off from radiation.

[bionerd23]

@sovageek

look up wikipedia for radiation sickness, then look up the inverse square law, and add a dash of reading about full body doses vs. isolated doses on e.g. the hands. this should put you at ease, so you could comfortably sleep next to a huge chunk of pitchblende without having to be scared of any effects, let alone your face peeling off, hehe.

[J0Boa]

Where is this speciment from?

[bionerd23]

@J0Boa

saxony, germany.

[J0Boa]

@bionerd23 is this your hottest speciment?

[bionerd23]

@J0Boa

nah, by far not. but it's a nice looking one. :)

[healer378]

I have the same unit and it has been telling me radiation does penetrates behind the lead wall in my X-ray room. But my radiologist specialist says "this machine checks something else" his giger didn't read what this device is reading. Also this device picks up electromagnetic radiation and says its "radioactive". I have a wimhurst machine that when you rotate it for eelctricity, this device reads it as "radiation". So what should I believe?!

[bionerd23]

well, you already answered that yourself; the gamma scout does indeed pick up electromagnetic radiation (which is a big flaw i'd say). it could also be that his counter was less sensitive and there are indeed SOME x-rays getting through the "lead wall" - i mean, look at my latest nuclear medicine video - there's always *some* of the gamma (x-ray) radiation that penetrates even very dense lead windows, as you can see.

just make sure there's no electromagnetic source of disturbance near.

[bionerd23]

die menge macht das gift. ein paar uranmineralien fuehren aber wohl lediglich zu stochastischen strahlenschaeden... aber wenn man ne tonne davon hat, sieht's wahrscheinlich auch wieder anders aus.

ca. 5 Sievert als akut-ganzkoerperdosis fuehren mit relativ grosser wahrscheinlichkeit zum tod. siehe wikipedia:strahlenkrankheit

[freefrederikfree]

LOL i dont want tht stone in my room :p

[windowlicker1]

very cool :)

[GigaPikachu9]

wow :D

Well the sand. In chenobyle would otherwise be resounded. I would not illuminate the gamma radiation. Thyroid otherwise would sing.

[viciokas1993]

Cool, but u cant match chernobyl after 1 hour! It was like 15000 there, YARGH!

[kielce14]

holy crap thats alot!

[mrpickles478]

could i implant uranite on a cash bill, and then use a geiger counter to find a thief ?

[bionerd23]

lol, funny idea... i guess that'd be possible in theory. :-D

[cajklsj]

wikipedia says background is 2.4 mSv/year...

will i be sick if i hold this rock ten minutes a day for ten days ??

[bionerd23]

lol, no. you'd need a PURE GAMMA exposure of 200 mSv in a VERY SHORT TIME (less than a day, maybe 1-2 hours) and on your WHOLE BODY, just having your hands irradiated isnt going to do much at all, not even with 200 mSv - and the stuff you can see in the video is uSv/h (1000 uSv/h = 1 mSv/h).

[thyskl]

Radiation making contact with any cell in your body can potentially cause cancer or other cell defects.

[bionerd23]

yup, but that are late-effects, not radiation sickness.

also, UV-light from the sun and free radicals do the same - thousands of times a day, a DNA-DSB occurs. usually, the cells dies due to apoptosis, though. but sometimes, it mutates...

[1stsmosh]

Are there any geiger counters that can measure micro rems, and nano rems? Needed for soil and water testing

[mike240se]

bionerd if that thing is 500uSv/hr isnt that substaintly exposure for you, that is like 50millirems/hr which is pretty damn high, plus if you have maxed that meter out at 100millirems/hr (1000uSv/hr) that is really high exposure! definetly dangerous levels. d

[bionerd23]

do not forget to consider that the readings are ALPHA, BETA and GAMMA radiation, all together... if it was that much gamma radiation, it may be a different story, but as you see, there isnt all that much gamma radiation measurable.

[professionalvr]

The messurements are same,as if it's in the Chernobyl "Vladimir Lenin" NPP on April 26,1986 or on Pripyat and Chernobyl moss. It's a very cool gadget.

[blackriverbridge]

nice i got all these sick civil defense geiger counters and a russion drsb-01 i went to an abandon airforce base in NJ contaminated with plutonium from a fire.

[mike240se]

i wanted to go there, did u find anything?

[blackriverbridge]

ya but u cant go inside its right by a airforse base so i wouldnt even try, radiation levels were pretty high from the road but when i moved closer to the fence the geiger counter jumped, dont go in the radaition levels are really high on the inside

[mike240se]

wow i didnt know, i must be thinking of something else. there is another nike or bomarc site near livingston, i thought that was the one that had the fire. i must be confusing it with another site. where is this one?

ps what kind of meter do u have? i just ordered a terra-p from ukraine off ebay. good for the money i think.

[Polyron]

Ah you are in the 'alpha-radiation' measure mode, so it's not really dangerous since your skin stop it.

[bionerd23]

it measures alpha, beta and gamma in this mode, though.

[Polyron]

Im curious as to what units are used on your dosimeter.

[bionerd23]

uSv/h. microsievert/hour.

[Atisos]

ihr beide auch? will auch nach tschnobyl. vielleicht kann man was zusammen organisieren

[shvets007]

0_o

[medicaldud]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This video is amazing.

UR THE SMARTEST KID I KNOW.

WOW!

U know how to work such stuff. The highest piece of equipment I know how to work is an ECMO pump.

I've had to use all that stuff like HFOV, ECMO defibrillator, etc.

[mrmaxell222]

2 things

1.uranium ore? is that even legal?

2.shouldn't you be waring a hasmat suit or something being close to radioactive ore?

[bionerd23]

yup, it is legal. as a mineral, it is considered a collector's item and legal to have. in the USA, i think you may have a few pounds / ounces / or whatever your unit of measurement is, but i'm not exactly sure about the details in your country. :-P

however, pure uranium metal is available in exempt quantities that are different from country to country; if you have more than the exempt quantity, you will need a license for it.

[bionerd23]

as uranium ore is only mildly radioactive, you dont really need to wear a hazmat suit or anything like that - not when handling such small amounts, anyway. the emitted radon is a bit of a concern, but i do keep the ore boxed for this reason.

[DeltaLima2]

Ich bezweifle die angezeigten Meßwerte. Sie sind viel zu hoch für so einen Krümmel. In einem anderen Comment sagtest Du, daß Dein Geigerzähler schon mehrere Jahre auf dem Buckel hat.

Wurde das Zählrohr ausgetauscht und geeicht ? Wenn nicht, dann ist es sowieso nur noch ein Schätzeisen bei den ganzen Spielereien die Du mit dem Teil so betreibst...

[bionerd23]

richtig. je aelter das geiger-mueller-zaehlrohr, desto ungenauer wird die messung, da mit etwa 10^9 ionisationen das end of life erreicht ist. aber: die messwerte sind mit zunehmendem lebensalter GERINGER als der eigentliche wert, NICHT hoeher (logisch). und: als ich dieses video aufgenommen habe, war mein (kalibiertes und neu bei conrad gekauftes) messgeraet noch ziemlich neu.

[bionerd23]

schau dir halt mal andere videos an, wo leute pechblende messen; du wirst aehnliche werte finden (je nach dem, wie dick und rein die ader ist, natuerlich). bitte beachten: nicht alle messgeraete koennen alpha- beta- und gammastrahlung messen; die meisten sind nur in der lage, beta- und gammastrahlung zu messen, was zu niedrigeren werten fuehrt - siehe video.

[bionerd23]

ach ja: schau dir doch auch mal mein 'finding uranium in nature' video an. da siehst du, dass sachsen viel verstrahlter ist als berlin - ausserdem messe ich frei in der natur herumliegendes gestein (in der naehe von uranmienen und steinbruechen)... wenn du das dann immernoch anzweifelst, dann kann ich nur sagen: fahr nach sachsen und ueberzeug' dich selbst davon. ;-)

[bionerd23]

ach ja: das zeug, was ich dort gefunden habe, ist AUTUNIT. es enthaelt viel weniger uran als URANINIT (pechblende), weswegen die messung an dem brocken, den ich da gefunden habe, auch 'nur' 120 uSv/h erbrachte. kannste auch ergoogeln, um das bestaetigt zu wissen.

[jsbid]

Solche Messwerte kann ich auch bestaetigen. Ich bekomme meinen 6 Monate alten Gammascout auf 2 mSv/h mit 100g Pechblende und im Gamma-only Modus. Natuerlich in unmittelbarer Naehe. Man bedenke: Die Intensitaet nimmt mit r^2 ab. In Tschernobyl habe ich im roten Wald 50uSv/h gemessen, allerdings in 1,5 m Hoehe. Nun kann sich jeder denken, was bei geringerem Abstand rauskommt.

[bionerd23]

geil, du warst in Tschernobyl? da will ich auch mal hin, unbedingt... hast du auch mein 'finding uranium in nature' video gesehen? da habe ich uran im erzgebirge gesucht (und gefunden). :-)

[jsbid]

Ja, letzten Oktober.

Das Video habe ich gesehen; ich habe eigentlich was ganz Anderes gesucht aber wenn man einmal mit youtube anfaengt kommt man so schnell nicht mehr los...

[JaksProductions]

9 mR/h :o

[nukeum2]

I bet any one a 1,000 he gets cancer in a few months.

[bionerd23]

a thousand dollars? ok, i'll bet you! what is a few months? shall we say until july 2009? ^_^

i could really do with some easy-to-earn money to buy new stuff for my experiments. =)

ps: what cancer do you expect? just as a guess... if you guess wrong, you will of course still win on any cancer i get.

(hint: i am female, so e.g. 'testicle cancer' is beyond question)

[JaksProductions]

you should make uranium soup,:D

[geizhals0815]

hello, i sent you a videoanswer showing the malfunction of my own GS. Do you have similar problems with your GS ? Please let me know. thanks a lot !

[bionerd23]

hmmm, strange, i had a similar occurance lately, but only really strong dose rates caused that problem... you can actually see it happen in my 'a closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector' video at 4:50 minutes!

ps: i sent you a private message regarding the matter!

[Isosphere]

Look at YAHOO GROUPS under Gamma-Scout,

GeigerCounterEnthusiasts and CDV700CLUB

[bionerd23]

thanks for the tip! :-)

[Isosphere]

Some people use stuff like that for house construction ...

[morel16]

Crazy man ????

do you know what are the consequences of a short exposition ???

it's maybe amazing ... but very very dangerous.

In the movie, the mesure unit is : uSv/h . It's mesure the "hard ray" which going in your body.

sorry for my english.

if you want to live. You must stop it immediately !!

[bionerd23]

of course i know the consequences of a short exposition. they're less high than an x-ray at your dentist... namely no noticable side effects AT ALL.

uSv/h is the aequivalent dose. that does not tell anything about the kind of radiation, OR the energy of the emitted particles / waves. alpha particles cant even penetrate a piece of paper or your skin. do you even know what hard rays are?! i guess not. please - next time you speak up, research and understand what you're talking about before hand.

[CATSCEO]

What type of geiger counter is that? Mine is a RDXnuclear DX-1, which I wish had a digital display like yours.

[bionerd23]

that is a GAMMA SCOUT - there are three versions, the 'silent' one, the w/alert (with audible click - that's mine), and an 'online'-version that sends data to the PC via usb every 10s (mine and the 'silent' version only have memory that can be read via USB, but not 'live'). this is for the german market, though; for the overseas market, there's only one version as it seems. google for more info. :-)

[zzorby]

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[RockSteadyRus]

you can eat it ! realy

[sciencoking]

yes you can also eat potassiumcyanite-but it´s probably the one and only time you do it

[jaleeel]

ur gonna get cancer and hav mutant babies

[Isosphere]

Where did you get that hot piece?

Not say- Ebay :-)

[Ch3mG33k]

Holy cow that sample is hot. How do you feel comfortable near that? Also, what's with the gloves?

[bionerd23]

i just love radiation, i like the idea of being irradiated. =)

the gloves are to protect the sample from finger smears, mainly.

[Ch3mG33k]

Ah, I see. I thought maybe there were some anti-radiation gloves I didn't know about on the market.

[StarlightGuitar]

you like it now cuz u're a stupid child but u're gonna regret this stupidity

[exon112]

Geez that's hot, the my piece of pure u-238 only gets my counter to 120 u/sv. I need something more radioactive!

[kabster]

I have no idea why this reminded me of a glowing Homer Simpson (other than he works at a nuke plant)

Please keep us posted as to your health in a few years.

[XxkutaapxX]

jezus! peeeeeeeeeepriprieepepeeeeeeee­eeepireeeeeeeeeee

[taliban0king]

well i have seen some1 selling a uranium rock on e bay that had 330,000 CPM is that enough to kill you on contact?

[taliban0king]

oh and it's e bay item number is...200202132670... look it up on search and i will tell u 330k cpm i dont think its uranium....

[assigerd]

und sowas hast du zuhause....^^

[bionerd23]

warum auch nicht :-D

[assigerd]

ja^^

[sleepfreak12]

is the dangers of plutonium exageratted?

[bionerd23]

in general, no. plutonium has a very short half time of only 15 to 25.000 years (depending on the isotope). so, it is a LOT more radioactive than uranium 238, whose half life time is 4.5 BILLION YEARS. there's quite a few bit of radiation coming of that small uranium rock in my video - now imagine it'd decay not in 4.5 billion years, but in 15 years. that'd be so radioactive, it'd kill you - all the rays of 4.5 billion years released in 15 years would be an insane increase in radiation levels.

[bionerd23]

so - the amount is important. if you only have a needle eye full of plutonium, it might be safe to handle. same as pollonium is safe to handle in that amount.

[21Panzer21]

wow i'm so jealous :)) where can u get bitchblende or uranium ore? because i have a hobby , colecting dieferent chemical substances (sulphur , iodine , chlorine , coal,etc) ... it would be nice to add to my collection... where do u keep that rock? because it's quite damngerous but at teh same time it's beautifull ... i have an old uranium mine about 20km where i liv e.. but i have not geiger counter si i'd rather not risk :D nice vid

[bionerd23]

abandones uranium mines are THE place to get uranium - i got it from an abandoned mine in saxony, germany, where you can just walk in and collect it. but yeah, you'd need a geiger counter to actually know for sure what you're doing and holding in your hands, true...

also, uranium is sold on ebay - though it might be quite expensive there. or try googling for mineral collector's forums and see if people have anything on offer, that might be the best choice!

[bionerd23]

i keep that rock and the many others i have (see my other video, "insane radioactivity on a pile of pitchblende ore") behind some lead sheets and old lead accumulators now, but it doesnt shield all that much anyway. also, see my "my irradiated room" video if you want to see how strong a little pile of uranium ore actually irradiates. :-)

[namdor11]

Are there any big risks of touching that rock with bare hands?

[bionerd23]

no. it just keeps the fine dust particles off my hands - alpha ray emitting material is quite harmful if inhaled or ingested. that rock is way too tiny though, you'd have to handle uranium with bare hands and lick your fingers afterwards every day to increase your risk for cancer by something that can be measured, i guess. but also gloves keep annoying fat stains and stuff from my hands off the mineral specimen. :-)

[namdor11]

what if u touch some uranium rock with bare hands and eat something afterwards without washing ur hands but only once?

[bionerd23]

maybe that might increase your risk to get cancer. same as maybe your risk for cancer is increased if you smoke ONE cigarette in your life and then never again...

but it's not much of a high risk, i guess.

[crazyboys88]

do you have a gammescout alert?

[bionerd23]

yes, and i think it's a really awesome dosimeter. :-)

[taliban0king]

...iv just been to the website its a lot...but how the hell did u get uranium ore!?...im sorry i have a lot of questions...

[bionerd23]

you can obtain it in obandoned uranium mines - i got mine in east germany... and sometimes you can get it on ebay and other web sites as well. its not illegal to have some uranium minerals at home - at least not in germany.

[taliban0king]

i want ur geiger counter where do i get it?

[bionerd23]

in electronic stores or online; see gammascoutDOTcom for more info on that geiger counter.

[radu3x]

it sounds like the cancer has been installed :))

[kingarthur20]

ist das denn net gefährlich? ich meine einfach so nen (nach dem lauten knarren beurteilt:) total radioaktives element einfach so im haus zu haben?^^

[bionerd23]

na ja, soooo radioaktiv ist uran ja garnicht. uran 238 hat ne halbwertszeit von 4,5 milliarden jahren - das ist nicht besonders radioaktiv. polonium 218 hat eine halbwertszeit von 3 minuten und ist damit ziemlich stark radioaktiv, mal so als vergleich.

[bionerd23]

wenn man mit nur wenig uran umgeht und es ansonsten gut aufbewahrt (in kaesten, damit das gas in der zerfallskette - radon - nicht entweichen kann; ausserdem weit genug weg von menschen und je nach menge auch eventuell abgeschirmt (blei)), ist das eigentlich kaum ein problem. guter vergleich: du muesstest deinen kiefer 25 minuten direkt an den stein halten um die dosis, die bei einem roentgenbild beim zahnarzt gemacht wird, abzubekommen...

[Beutelwolf1988]

ja ich komm aus Hartenstein und mein Pap hat auch noch einiges davon und auch sonst noch viele andere mineralien aus dem erzgebirge

[Beutelwolf1988]

Feine sache woher hast du deisen stein?

[bionerd23]

von einem freund aus sachsen - die verlassenen uran-minen sind offen, man kann einfach da rein gehen und sich was holen. ;-)

jetzt noch etwas wirklich gutes zu finden ist natuerlich nicht unbedingt einfach, da das meiste schon gefunden wurde.

ich hab uebrigens noch mehr von dem kram, siehe auch meine anderen videos (u.a. leuchtende gruene steine und noch viel mehr pechblende).

[cabronazoi]

Hello as get minerals uranium? Another thing you could do another video viewing if the lead has radioactivity and k is the disintegration of uranium

Thanks

[bionerd23]

sorry, i didnt quite understand - do you mean to ask where i got the minerals from, or...?

and a video of lead in front of the geiger counter would be pretty boring, as stable lead isnt radioactive at all (well, otherwise it wouldnt be stable, eh?). ;-)

[zsmith1744]

smart move.

whered u find that ore?

[bionerd23]

its from a mine called hartenstein (abandoned uranium mine), located in saxony, germany.

[chester73]

thats uh...pretty radioactive lol

[muddywaja]

If I had a geiger counter clicking like that,

I would run for the hills like a goat on fire!

[rcmoonpie1967]

to muddy: I heard that! I'd be right behind ya!

[Geomanb]

right - he's burning his hand - the cotton glove won't help it :-(

[Jemlink]

I believe bionerd23 is using the glove to keep his hand from picking up fine particles from the rock, not as a radiation shield.

[Geomanb]

yes, thats right. but i meant: if you hear that sound: time to ran as fast as hell!!

[bionerd23]

Jemlink, apart from that being "her" hand, not "his", you're absolutely correct. :-)

[TheCactusGardener]

Ha ha ha, you made the little robot scream!

[nitrex]

By the way i have seen your other video and i left some comments on it if you wore wondering.

[nitrex]

Have you seen Sklowdoskite,metatobernite and cuprosklowdoskite. They are African Uranium ores and they are very rare and they can only be found in Zaire. You should take a look at it.

[bionerd23]

yeah, seen metatorbernite - in fact, i got a little piece (3x2x2 cm) of it at home. love the dark-green color, though its a shame the copper kills its photoluminescence - but yeah, looks great. :-)

i'd like some of the nice yellow sklodowskite, too, but i've never managed to find any - not any i could afford, anyway.

[nitrex]

Well where do you get your minerals from?. I have sklodowskite and its radiactivity is really high.

[bionerd23]

totally depends - i know people who live in saxony and sell pitchblende as well as autunite and uranocircite, but the metatorbernite for example i got on a german auction site (not ebay). some stuff, i buy on ebay. some stuff, i buy from people offering them in german forums... what about you?

sklodowskite sure is pretty radioactive, if its pure, at least - 55% uranium inside that stuff. but nothing rules the 88% of uraninite. :-)

(nothing natural and unmanipulated, anyway)

[nitrex]

Yes , But Sklodowskite is much more radioactive then Uraninite. I buy my stuff from a company online, How many Radioactive minerals do you have ?

[bionerd23]

is it? how can that be? i thought sklodowskite contains uranium 238 as well, so, there's no difference in half time or in the element altogether to uraninite?

i have a total of 46 radioactive minerals at the moment - 8 micromounts and 7 huge rocks (like the one in the video), the rest are "average", ie around 4-6x2-3x2-3 cm. you?

[nitrex]

Well the Sklodowskite i have is 2 times more then any Uraninite Ore i have. I have about 30 Radioactive minerals. I have two from the rare Samarskite-(Yb). About 2 Skowlodskite with some Cuprosklowdowskite, and about 3 Big Uraninite Ores. The other Ores are Rare Earth minerals which are also Radioactive with Thorium and Uranium

[nitrex]

By the way the company i am with they sell all kinds of radioactive ores, i just checked with them and they also sell Uranocircite, they say it can be found in germany and they have it in stock. I am thinking to get the yellow Uranophane and some carnotite.

[bionerd23]

yeah, you can find uranocircite everywhere - well, everywhere in saxony, around the so called "vogtland". its the so called "homeland" (no idea if thats the proper word in english) of uranocircite, ie the common mineral for the area, same as autunite (and meta varianties of both, of course).

[nitrex]

Yes both of those minerals look very nice, I will try to buy it but i am sure it would be abit expensive since the place i am buying it from get it from germany. Maybe you know more about the radioactive minerals they sell over their.

[bionerd23]

well, you could check out h t t p: //minmax. net/index. php ?lang=en - there's a list of the minerals available in every country, and it also says if its a "type locality", ie a typical mineral to be found in that location.

[nitrex]

Sorry the site wont give me any access without a username and password. Also the index.php.

[bionerd23]

hmm, shouldnt do that if you type in w \w \w. mi\nmax .\n\et by hand...

[nitrex]

Its ok i got it. I wrote it with Index.php. Too bad they dont have UAE on the local search.

[nitrex]

If i am correct this is Uraninite with petrified wood :)

[bionerd23]

the uraninite is supposedly on a dolomite matrix, which is quite common for the hartenstein (saxony, germany) uraninite. but, i have no means of testing but my eyes. ;-)

[nitrex]

You know what i find strange, its that every Uraninite ore which is found in different countries which have the same UO2 formula, They all look different from each other in color, for example the Uraninite in Utah is Black but the one from New Hampshire is yellowish blue etc.

[bionerd23]

hmmm. probably isnt pure then - afaik, pure uraninite (U02) is greyish or brownish-black (or really deep black), but not yellow or blue. there's lots of uranium minerals, like autunite - Ca(UO2)2(PO4)2·10-12(H2O) - which come in all kinds of colors (i got a video of autunite under UV light as well if you wanna check it out). so, i guess, for yellow and blue etc., more element(s) must be involved. just my guess. :-)

[nitrex]

Actually no Uraninite Ore is pure, their are different compounds which is near the Uraninite more like a node attached to it, thats why i said that your Uraninite looked like it had Petrified wood with it. This is why i wanted to get the Czech Uraninite ore because even though its the same UO2 it has a different color and shape.

[nitrex]

Nice video :). Thats a nice Uraninite mineral. I have some from Utah but this looks like its found in some place else. I wanted to get some Uraninite from Czechslovakia , excuse me if the spelling of the country is wrong.

[bionerd23]

whats special about the czech uraninite?

[nitrex]

It has a different color and shape. You should check it out, its different from the Uranium ores in other countries.

[Spacelines]

gamma only circa 80-90

beta + gammas circa 315-320

alpha + beta+ gamma circa 300-350

ouch

[bionerd23]

uSv/h, yeah. not all that bad. :-D