Turkey: Putting a veil on secularism-Top story-EN France24

[Trains2007]

I'm so happy to see Turkey returning back to Islam, hopefully this will end Turkeys bid to join the EU.Turkey is in Asia, nothing to do with Europe.

[utkusarioglu]

@Trains2007 ah you don't getting it.. turkey is playing a neutral policy now. they are both european and not, middle eastern and not, islamic and not. it's a very clever policy... apparently everyone abroad buys into it.

[ironage666]

The process is going very well in Turkey now Islamist agenda is not being used by AKP but muslims think they're muslims in the power who defend their rights. Actually they're the real economic-liberals who're focusing to liberalise Turkish economy, privatise all turkish national resourses to global capital.(Which is the IMF's agenda actually)

[ironage666]

There's nothing to defend also the Military because Military had supported islamism to grow (by the state control) against mass people of communist revolutionaries in the 70's & 80's in Turkey.(by the support of USA i.e. New World Order) But timely islamist movement got independent from Military and taken control by New World Order. They used headscarf violation to get into power!

[ironage666]

In this video you can see what AKP wants you to see about Turkey. There's not a military pressure on AKP about the reforms, on the contrary, military is neutrilised by process of their 'Ergenekon trial',(to surpress turkish revolutionaries and anti islamists in the military.)

[islAMingotunekoim]

fuck islam we will never surrender to this sick islam!! death to islam!!

[Yunuskavgaci]

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[euroasian80]

yea altamer is right islam out of europe

and probably change europian union to christianity union,

what a pity u are sooo dumb!

[Altamer100]

islam out of Europe!!!

[ardaeksi]

if there is powerty then there is religion..because people become hopeless when there is no money..and they expect a solution from god that doesnt exist or doesnt give a fuck about your prays lol :D

[nagamora]

@ardaeksi will women become poor if they wear a head scarf ?!!

secularism is going down n islam is rising back again .its a war between muslims n the enemies of Allah . secular people r disbelievers Kuffar .all those who force muslims to leave their religion shall see islam spreading in front of them even if they hate it .Allah is greater than ur shitty ungodly army

u want to switch off the light of Allah with ur mouths but Allah is perfecting his light islam even if u hate it

[vilyaarda]

scarf is a political symbol and yes wherever religion leads countries poverty is rampant as well as lack of education. all Muslim countries are developing and most of them poor with serious gap between rich and the others. you want a statistic to compare between the level of education and financial stability of secular people and religious one? It is clearly in the favor of secular ones. that doesn't mean that if you want in your home to practice whatever you are not free to do it.

[vilyaarda]

without secularism turkey will not be on the map today or be on the verge of dismantlement in rivers of blood like Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. you are confusing state with religion . turks are as much Muslims as they were before but they live in a decent stable country without trowing fatwas to each other and killing their neighbors instead of fallowing real laws. would you like instead of politicians a guy with 4 classes who nominate himself imam to make the laws?

[glower125]

@vilyaarda turkey is a shit hole. don't you know that. you are the joke of europe, you have gave up your culture and religion to be accepted by the west because you were defeated by the west. they still don't like you and you a priah in this world.

[vilyaarda]

@glower125 first of all I'm not a turk so I have no idea why u say we. secondly I do not make fun of them nor despise them as you seem you do albeit seams you are Muslim. Being secular does not mean giving up culture and religion simply entering 21 century and not wanting to be Pakistan or Afghanistan trying everyday to kill your neighbor because it doesn't think like you. clearly u never set foot in turkey to see they do have culture and religion.

[vilyaarda]

You prefere the hypocrisy of some of so called religious states where home they are pious people then you see them in Thailand with underage girls and everyday in bars? wake up and travel around to see what is going on. At most people make fun of these states who look funny.

[DutchTurkish]

@glower125

We were not defeated by the west, we even beat the biggest naval army of all time till that date at Galippoli, but we had to surrender because Germany lost. But by force no country occupied Turkish homeland. The 2 countries never occupied by the Western countries is Turkey and Japan. We even occupied nearly half of Europe for 500 Years. So we were not the joke of Europe but the FEAR of Europe. We are TURKS, you dickhead !

[ansar1919]

@DutchTurkish

Europeans must be laughing at you.. Hahaha . Europe controlled you all along using attaturk as a tool. Wow.. they really brainwashed you on how Europe played you since 1922...hahaha

[futuramark]

they claim secularism and then force and impose islam traditions to students..yet are trying to make us christians remove our crosses from class...stay out of eu turkey bye.

[drunusgilani]

If religion is not sacrosact how come secularism be taken as an ideal to be imposed in an undemocratic way.Freedom is the norm.

[yasini]

This ban only makes us stronger and stronger.

This would not stop my families education, we will strive for an education even if it takes to study internationally.

One day, this ban will be uplifted, and people will live in a stronger and better demographic nation

[futuramark]

go to the european court just like they did to us in europe..for taking away your freedom of a secular education.

[ameldzan]

yeah in your dreams do you think real that they going to remove head scarfs in turkey its all politic there are more and more womens in turkey with head scarfs.

[simonmni]

Im sorry it doesn't make any sence, all because of polotics?

The main point is that turkey is classed as a muslim country, they shouldn't even think twice about banning women from wearing head scarfs full stop.

The Uk and even america, which regarded as the most hated country int he world doesn't ban women from banning head scarfs.

Turkey now wants to be classed as a westernised country and wanna disown there own islamic religion.

I feel sorry for the remaining true muslims in turkey

[hamisharn]

they can be both, its a nation run by reality and not by religion. turkey is a westernised islamic nation, just like the UAE. dont you get it? all other muslim countries are third world cesspits, but the wetsernised ones prosper.

[simonmni]

omg weather the country is getting more westernised or not, is the not the main issue for the banning.

it's still classed by alot of people as a muslim country so why ban muslim women from wearing scarfs for what they believe in?

You would never get this in the Uk, spain, finland, sweden, italy etc.

The list goes on mate these as u know r european countries who r also westernised and doesnt ban women from wearing head scarf nor intends to in the near future.

TAKE THAT TO NOTE

[aceofdiamonds21]

The head scarf was banned By Mustafa Kemal Ataturk when Turkey Was invaded in 1923. you guys are chattin nonsense. ! its illigal to were it in Universities END OF ! every county has its own rules.

Iran wants every one to cover up. Comment on dat too !

[satail]

well france has banned religious symbols like headscarves or cross neckalases in schools

if im correct

[JupiterO1]

Thanks for uploading this! I heard about Chirac's plan to start a French-based news channel to give France's perspective on world events. It's just sad that -once again- it HAD to be the government that came with the initiative, and not a French private citizen. Socialism kills entrepreneurialism, 76% of French kids under 25 want to become "fonctionaires" which means security and mediocrity. I like France but the leftist mentality has really corrupted your "exceptionalisme."