@aviefar He's a hatemonger, jihadwatch is a hate website, what if it was called "jewwatch" or "semiticwatch"? What would you think of it then? Do not link to videos or website on my channel, it's against my rules and you must respect my rules or I will block you. I'm removing the links (especially since they promote racism and hate), and am ready to engage with you constructively or block you, it's up to you.
"..Does anyone seriously believe that the Albanian Kosovars and the Serbs can live together again after all the bloodlet— ting that has taken place? The interethnic violence that has already occurred in the immediate postwar period confirms how unrealistic that scenario is? Instead, NATO should pursue a settlement that partitions the province, creating an independent Albanian Kosovar state." John Mearsheimer: "The Case for Partitioning Kosovo".
@aviefar Argument by appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. Everyone can live together, if given a chance, just ask anyone who lives in america, where jews, muslims, christians, hindus and atheists live together peacefully. There is no need to partition america, and no need to partition anywhere, the only need is for people to stop hating, stop justifying violence because of race or religion.
@aviefar You mean germans who invaded poland or germans who lived there before? If they lived there before, then certainly they can go back, if they colonized poland by force after germany captured it, then no, don't be ridiculous, of course not.
I'm sorry, I couldn't find your video about the "racism" in the existence of the "Islamic Republic of Pakistan".. I'm sure you have made one, 'cause I read in the Wiki that the creation of this "Islamic Republic" forced some 7,249,000 Hindus and Sikhs refugees to move from Pakistan to India - and I also read in the Wiki about a genocide called "1971 Bangladesh atrocities" in which millions of Hindus were murdered or became refugees (I also wonder how are those who stayed doing today?)..
@aviefar Apology accepted, I did not see your video on those topics either! Isn't that funny? I'm sure you made one, because you have been looking at it on wikipedia, so you have enough interest in it to do some mouse clicks, right? Why don't you go make that video now and we'll talk about it.
@bulbulinush You're wasting my time and you are polluting my channel with your racism and lies. You're not entitled to rule over arabs as an overlord and abuse them, and the idea that you're gambling the life of your "chilled" (child) by giving these supposed savages their basic human rights is just racism. I'm sick of it, and I've been far too tolerant of you and your propaganda. Blocked. Removed.
@bulbulinush Yeah, he was just some muslim guy, whether he founded pakistan or not, that does not make him the representative of muslims just because he happens to say what you want. I'd still like to know why you, if you believe refugees have no right to return, are even concerned about hindus. Could it be that you advocate THEIR right of return solely because it is a way for you to demonize muslims and argue against THEIR rights?
@bulbulinush Are you arguing that hindu refugees be allowed to return to pakistan? Please do, I'd love to hear you do that, then explain to me why you advocate one thing for one ethnic group, and another thing for another ethnic group. But how about this, how about I advocate the right of hindu refugees to return, and you advocate the right of palestinian refugees to return! Deal?
@bulbulinush Argument by appeal to authority, which is a logical fallacy. You can't quote some muslim guy to prove that muslims and hindus cannot live together in peace.
@bulbulinush In fact I could go on and on for days about all the reasons why we should speak out against what israel is doing to palestinians, but you don't want that, you want me to shut up and pretend that israel is not a racist state, so that it can be a racist state, because after all, racism does exist in other countries, although it isn't legitimized by the state the way it is in israel.
@bulbulinush So, basically, you're pretending that the only thing unique about israel is that it's an ethnic state for jews. That's bad enough, but beyond that, israel has violated more UN resolutions than all other nations combined, and it has the support of the majority of americans in committing it's crimes, so therefore it makes sense to object and to make people aware of the truth.
@YosefMikhaeli Bullshit. There is a clear difference between arabs and sub saharan africans. You have no idea what you're talking about, using anwar al sadat, or some other individuals, who have dark skin, to prove arabs are sub saharan africans is laughable. You are a person I previously blocked, masquarading as someone else, you have no business here, you're wasting my time, and you're a racist with no real argument. Bye bye. Blocked again.
@YosefMikhaeli I'm not really interested in whether or not you're sincere, if you come here to say that arabs are the one group on earth with no clear racial or ethnic identity, I'll make you defend that position and I'll argue most strenuously against it, because I know what you're doing and I know why you're doing it, and I am here to oppose you and what you stand for.
@YosefMikhaeli It could even be more than one race! Tell us, are arabs white people and black people? That's what you seemed to be suggesting, but funny thing is, they don't seem to look white OR black in any of the pictures I've seen...
@YosefMikhaeli Then if arabs DO have a race, then kindly tell me what it is!!!!! I'd really like to know because everyone who denies the arab race so far has failed to answer this simple question. If you want to take away the idea that they are arabs, you must tell us which race will fill this conceptual void you have created.
I don't want to take away the idea that Arabs are Arabs, wherever did you get that notion? How many times must I repeat myself and beg you not to put words in my mouth? Arabs are a collection of various peoples spanning a wide geographic area with certain shared cultural and linguistic attributes and there is a consensus among many of them that they have a shared national identity, but they're not a race.
@YosefMikhaeli In that case there are no races. Period, end of story. They are a race in exactly the same sense as europeans, africans, asians, and hispanics. If there are no races, and yet racism still exists, then racism against arabs still exists, and therefore you have nothing to gain by making this argument. :)
@YosefMikhaeli Reread the sentence, I didn't say you used the N word, I said that you would never deny that africans have racial identity, but you deny that about arabs because you wish to provide cover for people who make racist remarks about them.
@YosefMikhaeli THAT is your project here, to minimize other people to tear them down, to deny their identity, to project them as people who can be abused, scorned, derided, etc. THAT is why you say they have no race, and this project you pursue by vainly attempting to intimidate and mock anyone who stands up for the natural human rights of arabs or who objects to racism against arabs. It won't work, we will continue to speak out against racism, and regard your scorn with pride.
@YosefMikhaeli No, I don't think you want to see a palestinian nation, and even more, you don't wish to see palestinians in palestine have equal rights and equal representation. You wish to promote jewish identity, calling yourself a "people" while denying arab identity, saying that HAVE NO RACE while EVERYONE ELSE DOES! You wish to justify generalizing about arabs, denigrating them, discriminating against them, because it can't be racist if they have no race.
@YosefMikhaeli You certainly aren't trying to undermine the concept of nationalism, or race, or ethnicity, or peoplehood, you're not saying there are no races, no ethnicities, you're saying that only ARABS have no race! Only ARABS are devoid of this popularly held concept which people use to describe other people based on many different (often conflicting) qualities. You'd never say that africans are not a race so you can use the N word, but that's what you try to do to arabs.
@YosefMikhaeli You are not sticking up for arab identity, you're trying to undermine it. Your entire project here is to make it ok for people to say racist things about arabs! By denying that arabs are a race, without denying the concept of race itself, you are trying to provide cover for people who hate arabs and make bigoted statements against them. There is no other explanation for your strenuous and repeated attempts to deny the fact that arabs are thought of as a race.
@YosefMikhaeli You can't answer because you wish to deny that arabs have a race, without stating the obvious and common knowledge fact that race doesn't EXIST! Race (as I have tirelessly explained to you) is not a scientific concept but a popular concept invented (along with ethnicity, "peoples" "nations") in order to justify nationalism. It is a way for people to categorize other people, and you wish to deny palestinians a nation so you naturally attempt to negate their race.
It is you who can and ought to prove yourself wrong with this one - not being a case analogous to that of the holocaust, among other things - since you accept only your own evaluation of things - or rather lack thereof - and are aware as well as I do of your motivations to find someone it would be comfortable to blame and be angry about. The knowledge of facts countering your views is accessible to you, all right: it is you who knows full well you haven't bothered with it. High time you did.
@Ramatganski I don't like to compare suffering, all human suffering is important and should be acknowledged. If someone's family is murdered, to that person it's as bad as it gets, right? Of course the nackba is not exactly the same as the holocaust which was much bigger and more destructive, but to the individuals involved, both were tragedies. I have studied history, I have read the israeli historians, and I am just using logic and common sense to describe the situation.
@n8glenn Well, you've probably read some israeli historians and not others - or rather chose to ignore the ones who do not offer an easy, simple accusatory view of things which lines up with the right-wing Arab nationalistic cause. Some intellectuals and their followers are satisfied enough - as long as they can get away with it without being directly harmed by their own doing - with easy to digest good/bad notions which perfectly match the right-wing, conservative, war mongering narratives.
@Ramatganski I understand that israeli historians disagree on the politics, but seldom do they disagree about the facts, even benny morris acknowledges that the nackba was real, however, recounting the truth is not about accusing people, I'm not accusing you of the nackba, I'm stating history, because it's important to know the truth in order to bring about justice. I am not a supporter of right wing arab nationalism, I'm a supporter of human rights, democracy, and equal rights.
@n8glenn There are many ways to achieve democracy, equal human rights and the well being and prosperity of the people involved. You happened to stumble upon the very approach which has been PREVENTING this all along. The movement of denial of the Jewish people of equal human rights in a home-land, which they could not achieve as a minority anywhere - especially under Arab rule. A violent movement which is now an obsession to reclaim "Arab land" - to literally win it back. "Victory" - war.
@Ramatganski Nonsense. Democracy and equal rights is not the one thing preventing democracy and equal rights. I advocate equality, secular democracy and equal rights! No one has a right to NOT be a minority, I'm sorry, but that means you're forcing other people to be a minority and that's unacceptable. You must accept demographics as it is and work within that to create a democratic society.
@n8glenn Oh yes, this IS indeed all about you and what you "stand for". Anyway, everyone has the right for equal rights, and if the only way to achieve that right for some people is by establishing a home-land in their nation's origin place by building from scratch, then that's how they'll get it. If Arab nationalistic, antisemitic movements have stood in their way and still do, also by insisting on a spiteful, confrontational "reclaiming" of that land as "theirs", then it's not about "rights".
@Ramatganski If someone is forced off of their land, they have a right to return, that's just international law. They also have a right to equal representation in the government, and it makes no difference whether they are a majority or a minority, everyone should have an equal rights and an equal vote. If there happen to be more arab muslims than european jews, then that's just the way it is, white people couldn't oppress black people in south africa so why accept that anywhere?
@n8glenn ; No Arab was forced out of his land but Jews. Arabs started the war, not Jews. One Arab state in Palestine exists rom 1922 and is called Jordan. The Arabs didn't want to complite mission and let the Jewish state to live aside. Arabs have equal representation in the government in Israel and Jews are not allowed to live is the future second Palestinian Arab Jedenrein state in the "territories". White can't oppressed blacks in S.Africa so why can blacks oppressed whites in Palestine?
@aviefar Don't insult my intelligence. Arabs did not start the war, the zionist militias were ethnically cleansing palestinians for 5 full months before any arab army invaded palestine, and if you want to claim the nackba didn't happen, you're going to be attempting to advance a narrative that no israeli historian would support. The very idea that none of the 750,000 refugees were forced from their homes is beyond absurd, it's the type of lie that, if repeated, will get you blocked.
@n8glenn B.S. The local Arabs, and some non-regular-army fighters who came from other countries, already started the war right after the U.N's General Assembly approved a plan to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict by partitioning Palestine into two states, on November 29 1947.. The Jews who excepted the U.N partition plan, and who were practicing "Havlagah" till this time (try to look for "Havlagah" in the Wiki) were only defending themselves from the Arab aggression...
@bulbulinush Why don't you tell that to the israeli historians? Apparently they have never studied history the way you have! They all say that the zionist militias started the fighting and had their way with the palestinian villages, and faced virtually no opposition, as the arab population was totally disarmed and disorganized and had no offensive or even defensive capability after being crushed by the british.
@n8glenn I'm not sure what "Israeli historians" you read, but maybe they forgot to write about the massacres of hundreds of Jews and ethnic-cleansing of Jewish communities in Hebron, Gaza, and few other places, which started already during the 1921 "Jaffa riots", during "1929 Palestine riots" and during "1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine".. Maybe they forgot about "Operation ATLAS", or about the "Army of the Holy War" and "Arab Liberation Army" that were already in action long before May 1948.
@bulbulinush No, they did mention the ethnic strife, the fighting, the massacre at hebron, where 76 people were killed because there was a false rumor that zionists were murdering children. They knew of the arab uprising of 1936, that was why many palestinians were massacred in 47 and 48, to get revenge. They also understood that this is a natural reaction when people are told that they are going to be dispossessed or exiled from their land, none of it excuses the nackba.
@bulbulinush You can't simply say, well, they occasionally committed crimes, they were angry at us after we told them we were going to steal their homes, so now we get to ethnically cleanse and massacre them, or well, maybe they're in refugee camps, but look at what their ancestors did! They deserve it! No, that doesn't really work.
@n8glenn But, did we really tell them that "we were going to steal their homes"? I'm not sure about that, but what I am sure about is that today they are telling us that they are going to steal our homes, take our national freedom, and kill us all - so I guess it's time for us to be angry and occasionally commit a few crimes..
Anyway, if you want them out of "refugee camps" you should start pushing them to forget about "returning" to Israel and having revenge - and go for a better Solution...
@bulbulinush They don't want revenge, they want their lives back, their citizenship back, their country back. The palestinians don't have a colonial, exclusivist project like the zionists clearly did back then, it was common knowledge what they wanted to do, everyone knew the palestinians had to go, it was just a matter of time! Palestinians now want either a two state solution or a one state solution with equality, not exclusivity, not revenge.
@n8glenn I'm sure you are right about many of them. I know you are wrong about many of them. I just wish you are right about enough of them..
If that is the case, a reasonable solution will be found: it will not (and could not) include the return of refugees to the "original homes and lands" from 1948 in "Israel proper", and the loss of the Jewish national freedom and independence, but it will include them getting their lives and citizenship rights back - and that is the most important thing..
@n8glenn Maybe you should read "The Myth of the Palestinian Refugee Crisis", by Prof. Efraim Karsh, and see what he says about those "new historians" you're counting on..
@bulbulinush Really? Are the palestinian refugees a myth? The camps a myth? The documents from the zionist militias, the memories of the survivors, all myths?
@n8glenn It's a surprise - find it, read it, and see for yourself (but I'm guessing that the word "myth" has to do with how the real crisis was really formed, and how it was artificially enhanced and preserved through the years, so that people like you could use those poor refugees, and their poor children's children, as a weapon against the Jewish state)...
@bulbulinush A weapon?! Why are they weapons? How does allowing them to return to their homes, as is their right under international law, a threat to anybody? If the "jewish state" is threatened by treating people fairly, or by accepting the existence of people who are not the right race or religion, then that should tell you all you need to know about that state.
@n8glenn Don't play the naive. It's just like asking "what's so bad if China invaded the U.S.A and settled its people and its rule there - if you just don't resist and there's no war? Is it bad just because the Chinese are from the wrong race?"..Or "What's so bad if Great Britain took Ireland back under it's wings - or if Yugoslavia was united again under the rule of the Serbs?". And also "Why won't you give me the ownership of your home and make me the boss of your family? - 'cause I'm a Jew?".
@Ramatganski You are right. Arabism is a culture and not a race not nationality. There are no Arab Libyan, Syrian, Iraqi, Jordanian peoples but citizens. Iraq, for example, contains Shiite, Sunnis and Kurds that define their existence in different ways. Iraq is a colonial invention and a state system alone. Some of the now days Iraqis close to Persians, others to the tribes of Saudia and some to ancient Assyrians that part of them live in Eastern Syria.
@aviefar You feel free to tell me what race arabs are. Your next comment will be an answer to that question or it will be removed and you will be blocked.
@bulbulinush You want to try to argue that it's ok to hate arabs because they "aren't a race" too?! Unbelievable. You guys must be on a mailing list or something, you all cashing a check at the same office, or just sharing a brain? If you want to deny that the arab race exists, go right ahead, and tell me in the same comment what race arabs are, and if you deny arab identity and fail to answer my question you will be blocked immediately and your comments removed.
@bulbulinush And of course, they are every bit as much of a "race" as anybody else! They are a race in the popular conception of the term, but not scientifically speaking, because races don't exist. If you move to china, ethnically cleanse part of it, and tell the chinese people who remain that they can never be equal to you, then yeah, that qualifies as hate. Or maybe it isn't so much hate as a love of privilege, but that privilege is often justified by demonizing the oppressed.
@n8glenn So you mean to say that the Arab-Muslim invasion to "Palestine", and the imposing of the "Covenant of Umar" (google it) which turned Jews into an inferior status of "Dhimmis" (google it too) in their own ancient homeland - and all other places ruled by Muslims - was a "racist hate crime"?
@bulbulinush What's your point? Spit it out. You want to say that because arabs invaded hundreds of years ago, that their distant descendents should be abused? Let me explain something to you, many crimes have been committed down through history, by all peoples, including israeli jews, and none of those things are an excuse for racism today, for abusing people, or denying them their human rights because of their race.
@n8glenn I fully agree with you. The fact that few Arabs lost some real-estate in a war during the first half of the previous century, in the previous millennium, is no excuse for killing Jews today; it's no excuse for abusing Jews and denying their right for self-determination and self-rule on a small part of their tiny homeland; and it's no excuse for placing the 6 million Jews who live in Israel today under the same Arab-Muslim rule that would abuse them like before - or probably even worse..
@bulbulinush No, you don't agree with me. You wish to demonize an entire race of people based on historical wars and invasions, and then turn right around and say that palestinian refugees can be denied their basic human rights because what's happened to them is in the past. Well, it's not in the past, it's happening now. I don't blame you for that because of your race, I don't blame jews, but I demand that their human rights be respected and they be allowed to return.
@n8glenn No, you're not really interested in human rights or better life for "Palestinians". Like Shylock, you only try to twist the good ideas of "human rights" and "justice" in order to have your racist revenge against Jews: to deny their basic human right for self-determination and their own free nation state, and to place them in the hands of those who wish to kill them.
Like Shylock, you can have that "Pound of Land" you "demand" - but not a drop of Jewish blood or national-freedom with it.
@bulbulinush I never asked for land, or jewish blood, or "national-freedom", I asked for human rights and complete civil equality for palestinians, for secular democracy, not ethnocracy or theocracy, and if you don't like the idea of equality and human rights for all human beings, don't come crying to me about it, I don't care if you are attached to your privilege and do not want to give it up.
@bulbulinush And do not presume to tell me what I believe, or what I'm interested in. YOU are the one who obviously has no interest in human rights or a better life for palestinians.
@bulbulinush Let's be more specific, we all know that technically race doesn't exist, it's a popular concept, not a scientific concept. In fact, there is virtually no genetic difference in the human race, so really there's no race or ethnicity or "peoples" or "nations", if you want to be scientific, but if you want to talk in terms of how people think, they categorize people into races, caucasians, asians, arabs, africans, etc. YES, racism does exist, and is not based on science.
@n8glenn However, racism - which is, indeed, stupid - should not to be mixed with the scientific fact that the human race is divided to sub-groups of people with very different cultures; different religions, perceptions, values and ideologies; and different national identities. It would be stupid of me to ignore the fact that the most holy books and traditions of Muslims defined me as an inferior human, son of of monkeys and pigs, who should live as a "Dhimmi" and finally be annihilated, right?
@bulbulinush Now, here's your (all of you) bullshit argument, there's a white race, a black race, an asian race, but no arab race, so I can hate arabs all I want and I'm not a racist!!! So you're hating people based on factors which are associated with a particular group of people, commonly thought of as a race, and yet you're not a hateful bigot, because the objects of your bigotry have no identity. Isn't that really what you're saying here?
@n8glenn Of course all people have a right for "self-determination" and "self-rule" and that includes the right NOT to become a minority ruled by others - by preventing people of other nations from migrating into their own national state. The Jews have a long history of living as a persecuted minority under the rule of Christians and Muslims, most of the people who built Israel are refugees of the Holocaust and persecutions in Muslim countries, and they'll NEVER agree to loose their self-rule.
@bulbulinush No, no one has a right to NOT be a minority, and the palestinians in the refugee camps, the west bank, and gaza are not immigrants, they were born in palestine and not allowing them to return to palestine is ethnic cleansing, and no one has a right to do that, regardless of what label you put on it.
@n8glenn Nonsense."Democracy and equal rights" are just a slogan used by those who wish to deny the right of Jews for self-determination and who are looking for an excuse to flood the Jewish state with millions of Arabs who will turn them into persecuted minority - and finally annihilated them..
Will you be here to guarantee Jews get "Democracy and equal rights" under the rule of an Arab majority? Will you protect us in case we'll be persecuted like all minorities in Arab countries? Yea, right..
@bulbulinush What you're basically saying is that democracy and human rights are too good for arabs, because you know what they will do in the future and it will be bad, unless we keep our boots on their throats and destroy them. That argument didn't work in south africa and it won't work for you either. You don't need me to protect you from arabs, arabs are not evil, subhuman savages, and besides, that's what laws are for, make the right laws, it worked for south africa.
@n8glenn Logic: A 36 years old house-owner left his humble home in Palestine 64 years ago, with 5 kids - 6-16 years old. By now he's dead, and each kid is 70-80 years old, with ~5 kids and ~25 grand-kids - many of whom with kids of their own.. So, to "fix" what happened in the Nakba, we'll see ~150 descendants leaving their current homes in the Arab countries - where all of them were born - and "returning" with their spouses and kids - looking for their great-grandfather's house in Israel. Hmm..
@bulbulinush By your logic, jews certainly have no right to return to palestine, after having been gone for over a thousand years, and with no clear way to know whether any of them are actually even related to anyone who ever came from that area. In reality, the logic of what you're saying is that israel has denied a man his human rights his entire life, and then denied all of his descendents THEIR human rights! If he had lived in his home, he still would have had children.
@n8glenn By your logic, Jews certainly had no right to return to "Palestine" - and the Arabs had full right to prevent the Jews from returning, and to even kill Jews for that, although "Palestine" was not a sovereign state and those Arabs were just incidental residents in some tiny corner of the Ottoman Empire.. And by your other "logic", made especially for Jews, the Jews in Israel have no right to prevent Arabs from returning to Israel, although Israel is their own a sovereign state..
@bulbulinush No, that is not my logic, by my logic, everyone has a right to return to their home, as is specified by international law, everyone has a right to have all of their rights under the universal declaration of human rights honored and respected, and that has nothing to do with whether or not jews could immigrate into palestine. Palestinians were not just "incidental residents", btw, anymore than anybody else is an incidental resident of any country.
@n8glenn But I just showed how "their homes" is hardly relevant for some +100 people who were born in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq or Tunis, and who would try to "return" to some tiny house of their great-grandpa - who is most likely destroyed or inhabited for the last 64 years by Jews (usually by "Arab Jews" who left all their homes and property in Tunis, Iraq, Syria, etc)..
If India moved Hundreds of thousands of ppl from their homes for Tiger-Reserves, we can find a good solution for Jews&Arabs too.
@bulbulinush No, the fact that israel has forced people to stay in refugee camps and they had children in those camps in no way invalidates the right of those children to the land and homes of their parents. Those children deserve go to to the homes they would have inherited, to build new homes in the land they have a natural right to, because their parents had a natural right to it. The crimes of the past are not an excuse for crimes in the future.
1) It's not Israel who forced them to stay in "refugee camps" (ghettos for the decedents of Arab refugees of 1948 in Arab countries), it's their own Arab-Muslim brothers who keep them their under apartheid - ass a weapon against the Jewish state (there's a good vid' called "Apartheid in the Middle-East" and an article called "And the World is Lying" - look it up yourself).
2) The "Arab Jews" who came to Israel left more houses and property in Arab countries, they can have that instead.
@bulbulinush So in other words, israel isn't forcing them to stay in the camps, because israel will allow them to go live in other countries?! You can't go home but you don't have to say here?! And also, if arabs in other countries commit crimes, you can just take it out of the hides of palestinians?! Just like if someone steals your car, and your neighbor is the same race as the criminal, you just steal HIS car and call it a swap?
1) What you call "Home" is long-gone. Most of the specific houses were destroyed; lands re-occupied; and the entire "Palestine" of 1947 has changed beyond recognition. It's like giving Manhattan "back" to the Lenape Indians.
2) The number of "refugees" has also dabbled from 600,000 to 4.5 million -so "home" wouldn't fit even if it existed.
3) Your "Palestinians" are in fact Arab-Muslims whom 90% of which were born in those other Arab-Muslim stats - or lived there since childhood..
@bulbulinush 1) No problem, just rebuild the destroyed homes, most of the land is NOT reoccupied, and those who have reoccupied (stolen) the land can either give the land back, or if they bought them from others, be moved and compensated, or the owners of the land can be compensated.
2) if there's no room for palestinians in palestine, there's no room for jews in palestine, we know that's not true.
3) palestinian refugees came from palestine, not other countries, as we all know.
@n8glenn 1) No problem, but first help us move the Al-Aqsa Mosque and rebuild our temple where it stood in the first place; help us move every Arab village or town that were built on the ruins of an ancient Jewish village, town or land (as a former student of archaeology I can assure you this will cover almost every Arab settlement built in the last 1350 years); and help us reclaim ownership on every Jewish property stolen throughout history..
2) So, they can return to "Palestine" - not Israel.
3) No Arab had a "natural right" for any square inch in the Land of Israel. The Arabs were imperialist-colonialist occupiers who were siting on a stolen Jewish land, and their crimes of the past are not an excuse for crimes in the future.
@bulbulinush Everybody has an equal right to land. You can't just assert that land is "jewish land" because you presume that some ancestor of yours lived their thousands of years ago. Anyone who owns land or has lived on land for centuries has the right to that land.
@Ramatganski Now, as far as being angry and blaming people, I don't know what exactly in my life I could blame on israel or zionism. I have if anything profited from what israel has done, as an american with access to low gas prices. I am not angry, and I don't need to blame anybody for anything, but I do feel outraged at injustice, and that outrage is compounded by the fact that society at large does not understand the truth and supports injustice.
@bulbulinush Do not link to videos, and don't make claims you can't back up with logic or facts. There's no way that palestinians can be equal to jews in a "jewish state", because the state defines itself as an ethnicity, meaning palestinians are not even included in the definition of the state! If you're here for discussion, let's talk, if you're here to disseminate propaganda, you will be quickly blocked and comments removed. Links removed.
@n8glenn Well, the fact is that the Arabs enjoy equal rights as Jews by law, and they live in the "Jewish State" like many other minorities who live in other "National-Stats" (Surely they enjoy better equality and rights than non-Arab and non-Muslim minorities in Arab and Muslim countries - which you're not so worried about). The only pro-Jewish "discrimination" is the migration "Law of Return" (but it's hard to prove that fact if I can't back-up my claims with any testimonies and references)..
@bulbulinush No, they do not, the state defines itself by ethnicity and the law of return is only the first racist law, many laws explicitly reference the law of return in order to be racist without appearing to be so. The law of return and the denial of the right of return to refugees together form a totally unjust practice and amount to ongoing ethnic cleansing, and of course ZERO new towns have been established for palestinians, who are almost never given building permits.
@n8glenn Rahat, Ar'arat an-Naqab, Bir Hadaj, Hura, Kuseife, Lakiya, Shaqib al-Salam and Tel as-Sabi - are all names of new towns out of your "ZERO new towns" that were established for Arabs by the governments of Israel (and many more were established by Arabs and recognized by the state).
The Arabs "are almost never given building permits" 'cause their own city consuls don't make "Outline plans" on purpose - so they have an excuse to build big one-family-houses illegally, and grab more lands..
@bulbulinush Bullshit. Rahat is a resettlement camp!!! The bedouins were forced to move their after their village was repeatedly destroyed. As for the others, I will need to look into that, but I am quite sure they are either old, nonexistent, or resettlement camps as well. And don't even try to tell me that palestinians deny THEMSELVES building permits on purpose. That makes no logical sense. Yeah, they want to deny themselves permits, so they can BUILD HOUSES?! Oh boy.
@bulbulinush So far I have found that seven of these towns, including "aarat al-naqab, are resettlement camps.
"In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the Israeli government revived the idea of resettling the Bedouins and designed new plans for seven towns: Tel al Saba’, Rahat, Ararat Al Naqab, Kasifah, Shaqeeb al Salam, Hora and Al-Leqya. The government did so without taking into consideration the Bedouins' traditional lifestyle and without consulting the Bedouin communities."
@n8glenn Anyway, I'd love it if you gave me few examples for those "many laws" who "explicitly reference the law of return in order to be racist without appearing to be so".. I'm always ready to learn new things about my own country (and I'm sure I can always learn from you a lot about the status of minorities in many other countries in the world that you're keeping a close eye on - 'cause I'm sure you're not just piking on our tiny country out of all the horrible places in the world, right?)..
@bulbulinush Maybe you're right, maybe I don't have the right to object to racial and religious discrimination, ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, etc! Maybe I should be silent and lie while israel uses my tax money to destroy palestinians and steal their land, after all, what right did MLK have to criticize the south?! Where are all of his statements about south africa or saudi arabia?! What right did the allies have to stop the holocaust? Were they "anti-nazi germany"?
1) "Racial discrimination" has nothing to do with our case. Are you mixing your problems at home with ours?
2) If your worried about any of your "tax money" going to us - don't. it's better in our hands than yours. I'm not talking about Hiroshima&Nagasaki or 3-4 million dead Vietnamese.. During your last war in Iraq more than 150,000 ppl were killed - that's 3 times more than all Arabs killed in all wars with Israel.
6000 were killed in Fallujah alone, and only 3000 Pal's in the Nakba.
@bulbulinush America is not an ethnic nation. It's not the "state of white people, wherever they may live", it's the state of it's citizens and that is defined as people who were born in our territory, or naturalized. You can't say that about israel, and my tax money should not go to any of those things, OR israel, at least if israel is as it is today. So no, my money is better in MY hands, not in your hands, and not in the army's hands.
@n8glenn What does it matter if America is an "ethnic nation" or not? As a citizen of the U.S.A you share responsibility in everything your elected governments are doing, and it's your "tax money" that came bursting, with a blaze, through the rooftops and walls of millions of people around the world in recent decades (and you also helped the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, and financed dozens of evil and oppressive regimes world-wide).. Israel should be the last thing on your conscience..
@bulbulinush I speak out against and oppose all of the evil my government does, you vocally support and argue for the evil your government does, so don't tell me that I need to remain silent while palestinians are being victimized and discriminated against. I won't be silent, I will speak out because the truth needs to be told.
@n8glenn Really? But why from all the BIG evils in the world are you so focused on our tiny Jewish state -which is smaller than New-Jersey? Why, from all the lost property in the 20th century, you're focused on "Palestine"? Why not demand that the descendants of Arab-Muslim refugees from 1948 will get full citizenship and rights in the Arab-Muslim stats where they were born and lived for 64 years - just as Jews from those stats got it in Israel - and will stop being used as a weapon against us?
@bulbulinush I demand what I think is just, and I have criticized many, many countries for their bad conduct, including my own. However, in my country, the state of israel has unqualified support from a vast majority of the population, based on racism, and ignorance of basic history and current events. I don't have to spend much time convincing people that the government of iran, for example, is doing bad things and should be pressured to change.
OK. Listen: back off a little bit and have a think about where you are and what you are doing. I'd appreciate it if you move backwards a bit and reassess your attitude towards people. We want to be treated fairly and respectfully. For some reason you have been aggressive towards people (with an excuse of caring about us) and you've been just pushing more of the harmful aggression that is causing intolerable violence and suffering. Take a punching-bag and leave actual people's live's alone.
@n8glenn OK. You claim that you "speak the truth for the good of all". That is estimable. But, seriously, If that is the case, why are you only worried about the "racism of Jews in Israel" and not worried about racism among so many Palestinian Arabs - like those important Palestinian leaders from both Fatah and Hamas that you can see in the next videos, for example:
watch?v=k83bul6tfdY
watch?v=9Fic15V8ChE&feature=channel_video_title
You have nothing to say about that part of the equation?
@bulbulinush I'm not at all concerned about "the racism of jews", jews are not racist in general, but zionism has proceeded on a path that excludes people who are not regarded as jewish by the state of israel and discriminates against those people. If there is no state discrimination, then those people who are bigoted are not a real problem. All societies have bigoted people in them, but when government does not discriminate, it's not a problem.
Hello. Because of the concern of what people who recognize themselves as a particular group are doing to people who recognize themselves as yet another particular group - it is just to act to minimize the harm. The people who've been recognizing themselves as "Palestinians" have been recognizing themselves as such with the notion that there are people called "Jews" who are not allowed to have equal rights among "Arabs". This has been causing conflicts and violence from the get go. Now what?
@Ramatganski Bullshit. Palestinians do not abuse israeli jews in israel, israeli jews are given special rights by the "jewish state" which palestinians do not have. If you try to say otherwise, then you have to be either lying or completely and utterly living in a fantasy world. There's no way you could look at gaza and the west bank and conclude that the problem is "the arabs" imposing their will on jews.
You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's futile going about proving you wrong with the existing factual contingent circumstances in the present and in the past. "Bullshit..." with the same or some other, one sided fabrications - would be your reply. Aggressive is the right word, not only in describing the attitude and a preoccupation in righteous rage, choosing "sides" in conflicts, but also in describing the violence caused by the position you have come to support. "Bullshit...".
@Ramatganski You can't prove me wrong, you can only make baseless assertions which fly in the face of logic and reason. Let me just say that I have chosen sides, and I am outraged, and that's not a bad thing. I chose sides during the holocaust, I chose sides during the nackba, and no one is going to make me feel bad about either of those choices, no one is going to tell me that the holocaust was jews abusing nazis, get my drift?
@porsheimahsom this is pure bullshit, you know my statement is true and you're making excuses because you know that I'm right, jews are NOT allowed to marry non-jews and bring them into israel, that's a fact that you can't deny. This is not the place for zionist propagandists to write pages and pages of lies. Lies removed, you are blocked.
09:50 - I find it a bit peculiar that you spent so much time showing us how evil the Zionists are and how they wish to wipe the Palestinians off the map, and suddenly your suggestion is that the Palestinians will live in the same country with these evil people? Aren't you afraid of what the Zionist might do to them? The "one-state solution" is just another way to achieve the destruction of Israel and to deny the Jews from their basic rights. Needless to say, the Jews won't let it happen.
@porsheimahsom I don't believe that zionists are evil, I believe that zionism is fundamentally unjust and flawed, and yes, many crimes have been committed, many people have been corrupted and led to do bad things by this ideology, however, those people can change. That's what happens in a democracy, people learn to live together even when they have differences. You don't want equality, justice, democracy, etc, but you have no right to abuse or oppress others.
09:30 - This is not a Zionist argument that the Arabs cannot leave in peace next to the Jews, it is an Arab and Muslim argument. Do your little search here in YT or go to Memri and see for yourself what the Arabs are saying about Jews and what kind of future they wish you have with them. And as long as this is the situation, as long as the Palestinians and the Arabs are not ready to live in peace with Israel and accept the Jews' national rights, there will no be peace in that region.
@porsheimahsom No one should accept those 'national rights'. No one should accept the 'national rights' of africaaners to have a white south africa, or the 'national rights' of nazis to have an aryan germany. You can make racist generalizations about arabs and muslims all you want, tell me that "arabs are bad", but that's just hate speech, and not a good excuse to maintain inequality and oppression of others.
@n8glenn Should the British accept the 'national rights' of the Irish People or could they decide to go back and annex Ireland to Great Britain - after all, if Africaaners shouldn't get a white state why should those racist Irish ppl, who don't like the Brits, get it? Should India accept the 'national rights' of racist Pakistani ppl, or can they claim Pakistan back as a part of India? And what about the racist ppl of Tibet who don't wan't to be part of China? Should the U.S.A annex Afghanistan?
@bulbulinush No one has a "national right" to abuse people who do not fit into an ethnic or religious group. If the irish wish to discriminate against their citizens who are not ethnically irish, they should be prevented from doing that if possible. Of course, you can't just call people racist because they have a nation, that's preposterous, but if tibetans are discriminating against someone, then you could of course criticize that.
09:00 - Just to add to the previous comment, Israel is the only country in that area in which there are Palestinians who are not locked in camps. Israel gave all its Palestinians citizenship. There are NO Palestinian refugee camps in Israel.
@porsheimahsom I'm sorry, but that's absurd. Gaza is a giant camp maintained by israel, the villages in the west bank are for all practical purposes camps, they are surrounded by check points and encroached upon by roads and settlements the palestinians cannot enter into or use. The refugee camps in other countries are israel's doing, israel could empty those camps tomorrow by allowing those people to return to their homes.
Porsheimahsom is right. First, there are no "refugee camps" within Israel. Gaza is (1) neither a "giant camp" and (2) Gaza is not within the borders of Israel. The Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt from 1949-1967. It was completely under Israeli military and Civil Authority control (but never annexed into Israel) from 1967-1995. After 1995, some Israeli settlements remained with military protection. Post-2005, all Israeli settlements and military were removed.
@YehudiMaamin Don't be absurd, that argument is for the foolish and ignorant, I am neither. I know that under international law israel is right now occupying gaza militarily, just think about it, their army is around gaza, they control the borders, and control what gazans can get and where they can go by force! That's military occupation, or open warfare, take your pick. Gaza is a giant israeli prison, and the west bank is annexed by israel, any fool can see that.
Very good. Absolutely it's warfare, Israel is de facto and de jure at war with the hostile government that controls the Gaza Strip, the Hamas government. It's quite standard for a country to blockade the territory of its enemy during wartime and do everything to prevent unauthorised entry of people under a hostile government's control. That's not the same as occupying.
@YehudiMaamin And israel started that war when the residents of gaza voted the wrong way in a free election. Don't forget that under international law, israel is occupying gaza and waging war on gaza, and that means that israel, which pursues this war unilaterally, had no right to complain about hamas rockets, or anything else for that matter. Israel is waging war on a civilian population of 1.5 million people, which it has trapped on a tiny strip of land and is starving.
@n8glenn Israel is not occupying Gaza in any definition. Gazans started intensive terror war in 2000 and since then launcing rockets intentionaly on civilians. Israel is reacting only against the source of that terror. No Israeli soldier staying on Gaza. There is no starvation in Gaza. Although the Islamic terror Israel is still supply water, electricity, food and medicine to Gaza, although by any rule she might stop all that help to the Gazans as long as terror continues against Israel.
@aviefar Under international law, military occupation is defined as controlling an area directly with troops or controlling it indirectly from the borders with troops, which is what israel is doing. Israel controls everything, down to how much food gazans can eat and whether they get medical care, and there is in fact starvation in gaza, although no one is actually dying of starvation, which is by design. They don't want to attract too much attention to what they're doing.
@n8glenn Under international law Israel doesn't occupy Gaza. Gaza is free to make peace or war with Israel. They chose the war. The fact that Israel has an ecxellent Army is not a factor in your definition and accusation. You can't blame now the Jews that they can tacle any offensive against them. Israel can stop all Gazan's imports through her soil because of the war, Gazans are invited to import through Egypt. You can't murder Israelis and coplain when ther react properly. Gaza has new malls
@aviefar You're wrong, under international law, when you surround a country and control that country by force, from the outside, you are militarily occupying that country. Gazans are not waging war on israel, israel is waging war on gaza, and has been since the gazans voted the wrong way in a free election. Now, israelis are right now shooting at gazans from the border, and have killed about 100 gazans for each israeli killed by gazans and if you start talking about malls you're gone.
@aviefar I will not have my time wasted talking about whether or not gazans are shopping in luxury malls or relaxing at day spas or vacationing in luxury resorts at the expense of israel. That type of nonsense is a waste of my time and will not be tolerated.
@aviefar Now, if you want to define the IDF as somehow not terror, and hamas or fatah or palestinians as being terrorists, you're just being hypocritical. Terrorizing and killing people who are totally at your mercy is not ok simply because you're wearing a uniform. Bombing people is not ok simply because you use an airplane and not a suicide belt.
@n8glenn The opposite. IDF is an ecxellent human army. Arab terrorists are criminals. Israel always aim against terror sites and targets. The fact the terrorists are hiding among their citizens makes the IDF fight more complicated. If the Gazans were stopping shut rockets the IDF would immdietely stop too. You can't blame the IDF because its huge military capability and Israelis shouldn't apologize for their military capabilities, nor Americans in Afghanistan.
@aviefar The problem with that theory is that Hamas had a ceasefire with israel, which they scrupulously observed, even prosecuting people who broke the ceasefire, and israel never observed it's obligations under the ceasefire, and actually repeatedly broke the ceasefire, and that was what eventually caused hamas to respond, and immediately hamas offered to renew the ceasefire and israel refused. Violence is violence, terrorism is terrorism, and israel has a near monopooly on violence.
And no, the West Bank was not annexed by Israel. "Annexation" has a very specific legal definition under international law,it means one country applies its legal code on the territory of another country or its people. With the exception of East Jerusalem, which Israel did annex, this wasnt done for the remainder of the West Bank, signaling Israeli willingness to make concessions, which it has. Palestinians in the WB have their own (corrupt) government and laws.
@YehudiMaamin Have you ever seen an israeli map!? They all show the west bank and gaza as part of israel! It is referred to as judea and samaria, with the explicit connotation that they are jewish land and not palestinian, and israel has been feverishly gobbling up land, fencing it off, creating settlements and settler only roads in order to claim that land, if that is NOT annexing, then the term annexing is meaningless. The PA is not a real government, it is a puppet regime.
@YehudiMaamin I'm sorry, but you can't claim land, make it off limits to the local population, put it in your maps, refer to it as yours, make all the laws, rule all of the people at gunpoint, pay the salaries of the "government" officials, and then claim it's a foreign country. Again, I'm not ignorant or foolish, so I will not accept that sort of insult to my intelligence.
@n8glenn And as for "foolish and ignorant" anyone who reads your thin-skinned exchange with smorglborgel where you insist that Arabs are a race can see that you are. You demand of him that he "tell you what race Arabs are", and set a condition that he's not allowed to say that Arabs can be white. What, pray tell, is wrong with saying that Arabs can be white? It's a fact that Arabs may be of many racial backgrounds. Stating that fact does not diminish any of their legitimate claims.
@YehudiMaamin You are the fool if you believe that arabs are caucasians. Arabs are semitic, that is a race. If you want to mock and insult me by claiming that arabs are not a race (which is a racist statement, denying the identity of a race of people), then you can tell me what race arabs are or immediately be blocked. You have one chance to answer my question, what race are arabs and do not say caucasian, or I will block you immediately.
@YehudiMaamin You failed to ansewr my question, and as promised and as you asked I blocked you and have removed all comments after the point when you warranted blocking. You will not insult and mock me and while denying the existence of the arab race and then fail to tell me what race arabs are, that's not good enough. If arabs are not a race, it stands to reason you could tell me what race arabs are. Do not presume to determine or undermine the identity of other people.
@n8glenn Arabism is not a race neither Judaism. Arabism is the commom culture and motion of different tribes that gathered under the same unity flag. Arabism in not a race nor ethnicity nor blood. Please, forgive YehudiMaamin he is a good guy.
@aviefar But arabs are a race, and yes, I know that race is a dubious concept, but if such a thing as race exists, then arabs are a race, caucasians are a race, africans are a race, it's undeniable because if arabs weren't a race, then somebody could tell me what race arabs are, nobody seems able to answer that question so far. Furthermore, whether you choose to think of people as a race or not, it's not ok to hate them based on their identity. I won't accept denial of arab identity.
@n8glenn Arabism is quite a vast collection of tribes are are widely have great differences among themselves. Half of the N.African Arabs are black tribes that infiltreted through the Sahara into the northern shored and never integrated with the locals. Still there are conflicts among then mainly in Libya and Algeria. Some Arabs are Semites (culture definition too), some are blacks and some are Slavs (from Bosnia and Albania for example). You are right that hate is a fault.
@aviefar I do not allow blocked people back on my channel, I am very reasonable with my rules, when people do not respect my channel, and/or don't respect my rules, they are gone and never come back. I have no time for nonsense, I am here to have reasonable discussions, not to provide a platform for hate or propaganda or to have my time wasted.
@YosefMikhaeli I do not presume anything, I recognize that arabs are a distinct race, not caucasian, not african, not asian, they have a specific identity and I think you are trying to trivialize them and deny their identity so you can justify hating them and discriminating against them. You can't. You can't tell me that they have no identity, and you can't answer the basic question of what their race is if not arab. The fact that you even try to debate this is very telling.
ALBERT EINSTEIN-"The State idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with narrow-minded and economic obstacles. I believe it is bad. I have always been against it."
"I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from practical consideration, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain -- especially from the development of a narrow nationalism.
@Schmorgelborgel That's not what I asked you and you don't come back after being blocked. All alternate personalities will be blocked and all comments removed.
It is only a myth that Muslims didn't massacred Jews! I'm sure that Abu Abbass did a good job to cover the Arab sins.
"Solomonia: The Jewish Nakba: Expulsions, Massacres and Forced Conversions"
By "Ben-Dror Yemini" (Who you would define as an "Arab-Jew" - although such newly invented definition would be strongly rejected by 99% of "Arab-Jews")...
So, here it is again - do try to find and READ:
"Solomonia: The Jewish Nakba: Expulsions, Massacres and Forced Conversions".
@MrGiddeonn No, it's not a myth. All religions, all races, have occasionally had ethnic strife, have attacked each other, however, christians have attacked jews far more than muslims have, that's a fact. Christians have always viewed jews as being foreign and bad, and muslims have not had that attitude as a rule. Muslims did not commit the holocaust, muslims did not commit the inquisition, and there are many other examples of christian crimes against jews which far exceed muslims.
from odedisra> After claiming "Arabs&Muslims don't just Persecuted&Massacre ppl who did nothing wrong" -You removed EVIDENCE showing Non-Muslims minorities are being Persecuted&Massacred in Arab&Muslim countries just FOR RELIGIOUS AND CULTURAL REASONS (and NOT 'cause Muslims have "evil GENES" or are evil "RACE")..
After claiming "Muslims don't demonize Jews the way Christians&Nazis did" -You removed the EVIDENCE of the Demonization of Jews in Arab&Muslim Media and Education systems.
@JonathanR1970 Excuse me, sock puppet?! I removed "evidence" that THE MOOOOSLIMS are guilty of something worse than the holocaust, the inquisition and the crusades?! I removed "evidence" that THE MOOOOSLIMS are all evil and persecuting jews for no reason?! I removed links to racist propaganda videos, after repeated warnings to the offender, who after that made sure to repeatedly do what I warned against. You're next if you question my ownership of my channel again.
@n8glenn ; Why are you deleting evidence that exposes your mistakes, misleading and Falsetinian proPALganda staff? Can't you cope with reality and historical truth?
@MrGiddeonn I'm not doing that. I delete links to videos which attempt to demonize people because of their race or religion. This is my channel, and I won't allow you to lure people away from here to view racist propaganda, you will stick here and make your racist arguments and they will stand or fall on their own merits, or you can leave. Probably you want me to block you so you can whine about it because that's the best you can hope for.
@JonathanR1970 Now, I will give you some friendly advice, go ahead and disrespect my channel or tell me that I don't have the right to administer it, or break some other rule and get blocked, that is the smartest move you could make, otherwise, if you attempt to engage me and talk about the issues, you're going to get embarrassed, because I'm guessing you're just here to defend injustice and promote racism, and the truth isn't on your side.
@aviefar He's a hatemonger, jihadwatch is a hate website, what if it was called "jewwatch" or "semiticwatch"? What would you think of it then? Do not link to videos or website on my channel, it's against my rules and you must respect my rules or I will block you. I'm removing the links (especially since they promote racism and hate), and am ready to engage with you constructively or block you, it's up to you.
n8glenn 3 weeks ago
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"..Does anyone seriously believe that the Albanian Kosovars and the Serbs can live together again after all the bloodlet— ting that has taken place? The interethnic violence that has already occurred in the immediate postwar period confirms how unrealistic that scenario is? Instead, NATO should pursue a settlement that partitions the province, creating an independent Albanian Kosovar state." John Mearsheimer: "The Case for Partitioning Kosovo".
aviefar 3 weeks ago
@aviefar Argument by appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. Everyone can live together, if given a chance, just ask anyone who lives in america, where jews, muslims, christians, hindus and atheists live together peacefully. There is no need to partition america, and no need to partition anywhere, the only need is for people to stop hating, stop justifying violence because of race or religion.
n8glenn 3 weeks ago
Can 10 million Germans that were driven out after WWII, go back to live in Poland?
Really?
aviefar 3 weeks ago
@aviefar You mean germans who invaded poland or germans who lived there before? If they lived there before, then certainly they can go back, if they colonized poland by force after germany captured it, then no, don't be ridiculous, of course not.
n8glenn 3 weeks ago
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I'm sorry, I couldn't find your video about the "racism" in the existence of the "Islamic Republic of Pakistan".. I'm sure you have made one, 'cause I read in the Wiki that the creation of this "Islamic Republic" forced some 7,249,000 Hindus and Sikhs refugees to move from Pakistan to India - and I also read in the Wiki about a genocide called "1971 Bangladesh atrocities" in which millions of Hindus were murdered or became refugees (I also wonder how are those who stayed doing today?)..
aviefar 3 weeks ago
@aviefar Apology accepted, I did not see your video on those topics either! Isn't that funny? I'm sure you made one, because you have been looking at it on wikipedia, so you have enough interest in it to do some mouse clicks, right? Why don't you go make that video now and we'll talk about it.
n8glenn 3 weeks ago
@bulbulinush You're wasting my time and you are polluting my channel with your racism and lies. You're not entitled to rule over arabs as an overlord and abuse them, and the idea that you're gambling the life of your "chilled" (child) by giving these supposed savages their basic human rights is just racism. I'm sick of it, and I've been far too tolerant of you and your propaganda. Blocked. Removed.
n8glenn 4 weeks ago
@bulbulinush Yeah, he was just some muslim guy, whether he founded pakistan or not, that does not make him the representative of muslims just because he happens to say what you want. I'd still like to know why you, if you believe refugees have no right to return, are even concerned about hindus. Could it be that you advocate THEIR right of return solely because it is a way for you to demonize muslims and argue against THEIR rights?
n8glenn 4 weeks ago
@bulbulinush Are you arguing that hindu refugees be allowed to return to pakistan? Please do, I'd love to hear you do that, then explain to me why you advocate one thing for one ethnic group, and another thing for another ethnic group. But how about this, how about I advocate the right of hindu refugees to return, and you advocate the right of palestinian refugees to return! Deal?
n8glenn 4 weeks ago
@bulbulinush Argument by appeal to authority, which is a logical fallacy. You can't quote some muslim guy to prove that muslims and hindus cannot live together in peace.
n8glenn 4 weeks ago
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bulbulinush 4 weeks ago
@bulbulinush In fact I could go on and on for days about all the reasons why we should speak out against what israel is doing to palestinians, but you don't want that, you want me to shut up and pretend that israel is not a racist state, so that it can be a racist state, because after all, racism does exist in other countries, although it isn't legitimized by the state the way it is in israel.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@bulbulinush So, basically, you're pretending that the only thing unique about israel is that it's an ethnic state for jews. That's bad enough, but beyond that, israel has violated more UN resolutions than all other nations combined, and it has the support of the majority of americans in committing it's crimes, so therefore it makes sense to object and to make people aware of the truth.
n8glenn 1 month ago
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bulbulinush 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli Btw, You don't come back here after being blocked. Comments removed.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli Bullshit. There is a clear difference between arabs and sub saharan africans. You have no idea what you're talking about, using anwar al sadat, or some other individuals, who have dark skin, to prove arabs are sub saharan africans is laughable. You are a person I previously blocked, masquarading as someone else, you have no business here, you're wasting my time, and you're a racist with no real argument. Bye bye. Blocked again.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli I'm not really interested in whether or not you're sincere, if you come here to say that arabs are the one group on earth with no clear racial or ethnic identity, I'll make you defend that position and I'll argue most strenuously against it, because I know what you're doing and I know why you're doing it, and I am here to oppose you and what you stand for.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli GOOD FOR YOU!!! It's so awesome for you that according to you arabs are NOT a racial or ethnic group!!! Fantastic.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli It could even be more than one race! Tell us, are arabs white people and black people? That's what you seemed to be suggesting, but funny thing is, they don't seem to look white OR black in any of the pictures I've seen...
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli Then if arabs DO have a race, then kindly tell me what it is!!!!! I'd really like to know because everyone who denies the arab race so far has failed to answer this simple question. If you want to take away the idea that they are arabs, you must tell us which race will fill this conceptual void you have created.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn
I don't want to take away the idea that Arabs are Arabs, wherever did you get that notion? How many times must I repeat myself and beg you not to put words in my mouth? Arabs are a collection of various peoples spanning a wide geographic area with certain shared cultural and linguistic attributes and there is a consensus among many of them that they have a shared national identity, but they're not a race.
YosefMikhaeli 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli In that case there are no races. Period, end of story. They are a race in exactly the same sense as europeans, africans, asians, and hispanics. If there are no races, and yet racism still exists, then racism against arabs still exists, and therefore you have nothing to gain by making this argument. :)
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli Reread the sentence, I didn't say you used the N word, I said that you would never deny that africans have racial identity, but you deny that about arabs because you wish to provide cover for people who make racist remarks about them.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli THAT is your project here, to minimize other people to tear them down, to deny their identity, to project them as people who can be abused, scorned, derided, etc. THAT is why you say they have no race, and this project you pursue by vainly attempting to intimidate and mock anyone who stands up for the natural human rights of arabs or who objects to racism against arabs. It won't work, we will continue to speak out against racism, and regard your scorn with pride.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli No, I don't think you want to see a palestinian nation, and even more, you don't wish to see palestinians in palestine have equal rights and equal representation. You wish to promote jewish identity, calling yourself a "people" while denying arab identity, saying that HAVE NO RACE while EVERYONE ELSE DOES! You wish to justify generalizing about arabs, denigrating them, discriminating against them, because it can't be racist if they have no race.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli You certainly aren't trying to undermine the concept of nationalism, or race, or ethnicity, or peoplehood, you're not saying there are no races, no ethnicities, you're saying that only ARABS have no race! Only ARABS are devoid of this popularly held concept which people use to describe other people based on many different (often conflicting) qualities. You'd never say that africans are not a race so you can use the N word, but that's what you try to do to arabs.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli You are not sticking up for arab identity, you're trying to undermine it. Your entire project here is to make it ok for people to say racist things about arabs! By denying that arabs are a race, without denying the concept of race itself, you are trying to provide cover for people who hate arabs and make bigoted statements against them. There is no other explanation for your strenuous and repeated attempts to deny the fact that arabs are thought of as a race.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli You can't answer because you wish to deny that arabs have a race, without stating the obvious and common knowledge fact that race doesn't EXIST! Race (as I have tirelessly explained to you) is not a scientific concept but a popular concept invented (along with ethnicity, "peoples" "nations") in order to justify nationalism. It is a way for people to categorize other people, and you wish to deny palestinians a nation so you naturally attempt to negate their race.
n8glenn 1 month ago
Great video thanks God bless!
judorican973 1 month ago
@judorican973 You are quite welcome. Thanks for watching.
n8glenn 1 month ago
It is a mistake to include all Arab Jews under the wrong label Jews.
Khzaro Ashkenazim are one people and Jewish people are in reality Arabs
of the Jewish religion.
Moni Yakim Antizionist
moniyakim 1 month ago
It is you who can and ought to prove yourself wrong with this one - not being a case analogous to that of the holocaust, among other things - since you accept only your own evaluation of things - or rather lack thereof - and are aware as well as I do of your motivations to find someone it would be comfortable to blame and be angry about. The knowledge of facts countering your views is accessible to you, all right: it is you who knows full well you haven't bothered with it. High time you did.
Ramatganski 1 month ago
@Ramatganski I don't like to compare suffering, all human suffering is important and should be acknowledged. If someone's family is murdered, to that person it's as bad as it gets, right? Of course the nackba is not exactly the same as the holocaust which was much bigger and more destructive, but to the individuals involved, both were tragedies. I have studied history, I have read the israeli historians, and I am just using logic and common sense to describe the situation.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Well, you've probably read some israeli historians and not others - or rather chose to ignore the ones who do not offer an easy, simple accusatory view of things which lines up with the right-wing Arab nationalistic cause. Some intellectuals and their followers are satisfied enough - as long as they can get away with it without being directly harmed by their own doing - with easy to digest good/bad notions which perfectly match the right-wing, conservative, war mongering narratives.
Ramatganski 1 month ago
@Ramatganski I understand that israeli historians disagree on the politics, but seldom do they disagree about the facts, even benny morris acknowledges that the nackba was real, however, recounting the truth is not about accusing people, I'm not accusing you of the nackba, I'm stating history, because it's important to know the truth in order to bring about justice. I am not a supporter of right wing arab nationalism, I'm a supporter of human rights, democracy, and equal rights.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn There are many ways to achieve democracy, equal human rights and the well being and prosperity of the people involved. You happened to stumble upon the very approach which has been PREVENTING this all along. The movement of denial of the Jewish people of equal human rights in a home-land, which they could not achieve as a minority anywhere - especially under Arab rule. A violent movement which is now an obsession to reclaim "Arab land" - to literally win it back. "Victory" - war.
Ramatganski 1 month ago
@Ramatganski Nonsense. Democracy and equal rights is not the one thing preventing democracy and equal rights. I advocate equality, secular democracy and equal rights! No one has a right to NOT be a minority, I'm sorry, but that means you're forcing other people to be a minority and that's unacceptable. You must accept demographics as it is and work within that to create a democratic society.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Oh yes, this IS indeed all about you and what you "stand for". Anyway, everyone has the right for equal rights, and if the only way to achieve that right for some people is by establishing a home-land in their nation's origin place by building from scratch, then that's how they'll get it. If Arab nationalistic, antisemitic movements have stood in their way and still do, also by insisting on a spiteful, confrontational "reclaiming" of that land as "theirs", then it's not about "rights".
Ramatganski 1 month ago
@Ramatganski If someone is forced off of their land, they have a right to return, that's just international law. They also have a right to equal representation in the government, and it makes no difference whether they are a majority or a minority, everyone should have an equal rights and an equal vote. If there happen to be more arab muslims than european jews, then that's just the way it is, white people couldn't oppress black people in south africa so why accept that anywhere?
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn ; No Arab was forced out of his land but Jews. Arabs started the war, not Jews. One Arab state in Palestine exists rom 1922 and is called Jordan. The Arabs didn't want to complite mission and let the Jewish state to live aside. Arabs have equal representation in the government in Israel and Jews are not allowed to live is the future second Palestinian Arab Jedenrein state in the "territories". White can't oppressed blacks in S.Africa so why can blacks oppressed whites in Palestine?
aviefar 1 month ago
@aviefar Don't insult my intelligence. Arabs did not start the war, the zionist militias were ethnically cleansing palestinians for 5 full months before any arab army invaded palestine, and if you want to claim the nackba didn't happen, you're going to be attempting to advance a narrative that no israeli historian would support. The very idea that none of the 750,000 refugees were forced from their homes is beyond absurd, it's the type of lie that, if repeated, will get you blocked.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn B.S. The local Arabs, and some non-regular-army fighters who came from other countries, already started the war right after the U.N's General Assembly approved a plan to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict by partitioning Palestine into two states, on November 29 1947.. The Jews who excepted the U.N partition plan, and who were practicing "Havlagah" till this time (try to look for "Havlagah" in the Wiki) were only defending themselves from the Arab aggression...
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush Why don't you tell that to the israeli historians? Apparently they have never studied history the way you have! They all say that the zionist militias started the fighting and had their way with the palestinian villages, and faced virtually no opposition, as the arab population was totally disarmed and disorganized and had no offensive or even defensive capability after being crushed by the british.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn I'm not sure what "Israeli historians" you read, but maybe they forgot to write about the massacres of hundreds of Jews and ethnic-cleansing of Jewish communities in Hebron, Gaza, and few other places, which started already during the 1921 "Jaffa riots", during "1929 Palestine riots" and during "1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine".. Maybe they forgot about "Operation ATLAS", or about the "Army of the Holy War" and "Arab Liberation Army" that were already in action long before May 1948.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush No, they did mention the ethnic strife, the fighting, the massacre at hebron, where 76 people were killed because there was a false rumor that zionists were murdering children. They knew of the arab uprising of 1936, that was why many palestinians were massacred in 47 and 48, to get revenge. They also understood that this is a natural reaction when people are told that they are going to be dispossessed or exiled from their land, none of it excuses the nackba.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@bulbulinush You can't simply say, well, they occasionally committed crimes, they were angry at us after we told them we were going to steal their homes, so now we get to ethnically cleanse and massacre them, or well, maybe they're in refugee camps, but look at what their ancestors did! They deserve it! No, that doesn't really work.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn But, did we really tell them that "we were going to steal their homes"? I'm not sure about that, but what I am sure about is that today they are telling us that they are going to steal our homes, take our national freedom, and kill us all - so I guess it's time for us to be angry and occasionally commit a few crimes..
Anyway, if you want them out of "refugee camps" you should start pushing them to forget about "returning" to Israel and having revenge - and go for a better Solution...
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush They don't want revenge, they want their lives back, their citizenship back, their country back. The palestinians don't have a colonial, exclusivist project like the zionists clearly did back then, it was common knowledge what they wanted to do, everyone knew the palestinians had to go, it was just a matter of time! Palestinians now want either a two state solution or a one state solution with equality, not exclusivity, not revenge.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn I'm sure you are right about many of them. I know you are wrong about many of them. I just wish you are right about enough of them..
If that is the case, a reasonable solution will be found: it will not (and could not) include the return of refugees to the "original homes and lands" from 1948 in "Israel proper", and the loss of the Jewish national freedom and independence, but it will include them getting their lives and citizenship rights back - and that is the most important thing..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@n8glenn Maybe you should read "The Myth of the Palestinian Refugee Crisis", by Prof. Efraim Karsh, and see what he says about those "new historians" you're counting on..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush Really? Are the palestinian refugees a myth? The camps a myth? The documents from the zionist militias, the memories of the survivors, all myths?
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn It's a surprise - find it, read it, and see for yourself (but I'm guessing that the word "myth" has to do with how the real crisis was really formed, and how it was artificially enhanced and preserved through the years, so that people like you could use those poor refugees, and their poor children's children, as a weapon against the Jewish state)...
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush A weapon?! Why are they weapons? How does allowing them to return to their homes, as is their right under international law, a threat to anybody? If the "jewish state" is threatened by treating people fairly, or by accepting the existence of people who are not the right race or religion, then that should tell you all you need to know about that state.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Don't play the naive. It's just like asking "what's so bad if China invaded the U.S.A and settled its people and its rule there - if you just don't resist and there's no war? Is it bad just because the Chinese are from the wrong race?"..Or "What's so bad if Great Britain took Ireland back under it's wings - or if Yugoslavia was united again under the rule of the Serbs?". And also "Why won't you give me the ownership of your home and make me the boss of your family? - 'cause I'm a Jew?".
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@Ramatganski You are right. Arabism is a culture and not a race not nationality. There are no Arab Libyan, Syrian, Iraqi, Jordanian peoples but citizens. Iraq, for example, contains Shiite, Sunnis and Kurds that define their existence in different ways. Iraq is a colonial invention and a state system alone. Some of the now days Iraqis close to Persians, others to the tribes of Saudia and some to ancient Assyrians that part of them live in Eastern Syria.
aviefar 1 month ago
@aviefar You feel free to tell me what race arabs are. Your next comment will be an answer to that question or it will be removed and you will be blocked.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn LOL! He just wrote "Arabism is a culture and NOT a race"... Are you trying to make him invent a "race" for the Arabs now?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush You want to try to argue that it's ok to hate arabs because they "aren't a race" too?! Unbelievable. You guys must be on a mailing list or something, you all cashing a check at the same office, or just sharing a brain? If you want to deny that the arab race exists, go right ahead, and tell me in the same comment what race arabs are, and if you deny arab identity and fail to answer my question you will be blocked immediately and your comments removed.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Like all people in the world, the Arabs belong to the "Human-Race".
Does that answer your question? Good!
Moving on now:
Who said anything about hating Arabs? Does the fact that you wouldn't like to be occupied and ruled by China mean that you "hate Chinese"?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush And of course, they are every bit as much of a "race" as anybody else! They are a race in the popular conception of the term, but not scientifically speaking, because races don't exist. If you move to china, ethnically cleanse part of it, and tell the chinese people who remain that they can never be equal to you, then yeah, that qualifies as hate. Or maybe it isn't so much hate as a love of privilege, but that privilege is often justified by demonizing the oppressed.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn So you mean to say that the Arab-Muslim invasion to "Palestine", and the imposing of the "Covenant of Umar" (google it) which turned Jews into an inferior status of "Dhimmis" (google it too) in their own ancient homeland - and all other places ruled by Muslims - was a "racist hate crime"?
I'd go with that...
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush What's your point? Spit it out. You want to say that because arabs invaded hundreds of years ago, that their distant descendents should be abused? Let me explain something to you, many crimes have been committed down through history, by all peoples, including israeli jews, and none of those things are an excuse for racism today, for abusing people, or denying them their human rights because of their race.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn I fully agree with you. The fact that few Arabs lost some real-estate in a war during the first half of the previous century, in the previous millennium, is no excuse for killing Jews today; it's no excuse for abusing Jews and denying their right for self-determination and self-rule on a small part of their tiny homeland; and it's no excuse for placing the 6 million Jews who live in Israel today under the same Arab-Muslim rule that would abuse them like before - or probably even worse..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush No, you don't agree with me. You wish to demonize an entire race of people based on historical wars and invasions, and then turn right around and say that palestinian refugees can be denied their basic human rights because what's happened to them is in the past. Well, it's not in the past, it's happening now. I don't blame you for that because of your race, I don't blame jews, but I demand that their human rights be respected and they be allowed to return.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn No, you're not really interested in human rights or better life for "Palestinians". Like Shylock, you only try to twist the good ideas of "human rights" and "justice" in order to have your racist revenge against Jews: to deny their basic human right for self-determination and their own free nation state, and to place them in the hands of those who wish to kill them.
Like Shylock, you can have that "Pound of Land" you "demand" - but not a drop of Jewish blood or national-freedom with it.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush I never asked for land, or jewish blood, or "national-freedom", I asked for human rights and complete civil equality for palestinians, for secular democracy, not ethnocracy or theocracy, and if you don't like the idea of equality and human rights for all human beings, don't come crying to me about it, I don't care if you are attached to your privilege and do not want to give it up.
n8glenn 4 weeks ago
@bulbulinush And do not presume to tell me what I believe, or what I'm interested in. YOU are the one who obviously has no interest in human rights or a better life for palestinians.
n8glenn 4 weeks ago
@bulbulinush Let's be more specific, we all know that technically race doesn't exist, it's a popular concept, not a scientific concept. In fact, there is virtually no genetic difference in the human race, so really there's no race or ethnicity or "peoples" or "nations", if you want to be scientific, but if you want to talk in terms of how people think, they categorize people into races, caucasians, asians, arabs, africans, etc. YES, racism does exist, and is not based on science.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn However, racism - which is, indeed, stupid - should not to be mixed with the scientific fact that the human race is divided to sub-groups of people with very different cultures; different religions, perceptions, values and ideologies; and different national identities. It would be stupid of me to ignore the fact that the most holy books and traditions of Muslims defined me as an inferior human, son of of monkeys and pigs, who should live as a "Dhimmi" and finally be annihilated, right?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush Now, here's your (all of you) bullshit argument, there's a white race, a black race, an asian race, but no arab race, so I can hate arabs all I want and I'm not a racist!!! So you're hating people based on factors which are associated with a particular group of people, commonly thought of as a race, and yet you're not a hateful bigot, because the objects of your bigotry have no identity. Isn't that really what you're saying here?
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Of course all people have a right for "self-determination" and "self-rule" and that includes the right NOT to become a minority ruled by others - by preventing people of other nations from migrating into their own national state. The Jews have a long history of living as a persecuted minority under the rule of Christians and Muslims, most of the people who built Israel are refugees of the Holocaust and persecutions in Muslim countries, and they'll NEVER agree to loose their self-rule.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush No, no one has a right to NOT be a minority, and the palestinians in the refugee camps, the west bank, and gaza are not immigrants, they were born in palestine and not allowing them to return to palestine is ethnic cleansing, and no one has a right to do that, regardless of what label you put on it.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Nonsense."Democracy and equal rights" are just a slogan used by those who wish to deny the right of Jews for self-determination and who are looking for an excuse to flood the Jewish state with millions of Arabs who will turn them into persecuted minority - and finally annihilated them..
Will you be here to guarantee Jews get "Democracy and equal rights" under the rule of an Arab majority? Will you protect us in case we'll be persecuted like all minorities in Arab countries? Yea, right..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush What you're basically saying is that democracy and human rights are too good for arabs, because you know what they will do in the future and it will be bad, unless we keep our boots on their throats and destroy them. That argument didn't work in south africa and it won't work for you either. You don't need me to protect you from arabs, arabs are not evil, subhuman savages, and besides, that's what laws are for, make the right laws, it worked for south africa.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Logic: A 36 years old house-owner left his humble home in Palestine 64 years ago, with 5 kids - 6-16 years old. By now he's dead, and each kid is 70-80 years old, with ~5 kids and ~25 grand-kids - many of whom with kids of their own.. So, to "fix" what happened in the Nakba, we'll see ~150 descendants leaving their current homes in the Arab countries - where all of them were born - and "returning" with their spouses and kids - looking for their great-grandfather's house in Israel. Hmm..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush By your logic, jews certainly have no right to return to palestine, after having been gone for over a thousand years, and with no clear way to know whether any of them are actually even related to anyone who ever came from that area. In reality, the logic of what you're saying is that israel has denied a man his human rights his entire life, and then denied all of his descendents THEIR human rights! If he had lived in his home, he still would have had children.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn By your logic, Jews certainly had no right to return to "Palestine" - and the Arabs had full right to prevent the Jews from returning, and to even kill Jews for that, although "Palestine" was not a sovereign state and those Arabs were just incidental residents in some tiny corner of the Ottoman Empire.. And by your other "logic", made especially for Jews, the Jews in Israel have no right to prevent Arabs from returning to Israel, although Israel is their own a sovereign state..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush No, that is not my logic, by my logic, everyone has a right to return to their home, as is specified by international law, everyone has a right to have all of their rights under the universal declaration of human rights honored and respected, and that has nothing to do with whether or not jews could immigrate into palestine. Palestinians were not just "incidental residents", btw, anymore than anybody else is an incidental resident of any country.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn But I just showed how "their homes" is hardly relevant for some +100 people who were born in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq or Tunis, and who would try to "return" to some tiny house of their great-grandpa - who is most likely destroyed or inhabited for the last 64 years by Jews (usually by "Arab Jews" who left all their homes and property in Tunis, Iraq, Syria, etc)..
If India moved Hundreds of thousands of ppl from their homes for Tiger-Reserves, we can find a good solution for Jews&Arabs too.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush No, the fact that israel has forced people to stay in refugee camps and they had children in those camps in no way invalidates the right of those children to the land and homes of their parents. Those children deserve go to to the homes they would have inherited, to build new homes in the land they have a natural right to, because their parents had a natural right to it. The crimes of the past are not an excuse for crimes in the future.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn
1) It's not Israel who forced them to stay in "refugee camps" (ghettos for the decedents of Arab refugees of 1948 in Arab countries), it's their own Arab-Muslim brothers who keep them their under apartheid - ass a weapon against the Jewish state (there's a good vid' called "Apartheid in the Middle-East" and an article called "And the World is Lying" - look it up yourself).
2) The "Arab Jews" who came to Israel left more houses and property in Arab countries, they can have that instead.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush So in other words, israel isn't forcing them to stay in the camps, because israel will allow them to go live in other countries?! You can't go home but you don't have to say here?! And also, if arabs in other countries commit crimes, you can just take it out of the hides of palestinians?! Just like if someone steals your car, and your neighbor is the same race as the criminal, you just steal HIS car and call it a swap?
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn No.
1) What you call "Home" is long-gone. Most of the specific houses were destroyed; lands re-occupied; and the entire "Palestine" of 1947 has changed beyond recognition. It's like giving Manhattan "back" to the Lenape Indians.
2) The number of "refugees" has also dabbled from 600,000 to 4.5 million -so "home" wouldn't fit even if it existed.
3) Your "Palestinians" are in fact Arab-Muslims whom 90% of which were born in those other Arab-Muslim stats - or lived there since childhood..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush 1) No problem, just rebuild the destroyed homes, most of the land is NOT reoccupied, and those who have reoccupied (stolen) the land can either give the land back, or if they bought them from others, be moved and compensated, or the owners of the land can be compensated.
2) if there's no room for palestinians in palestine, there's no room for jews in palestine, we know that's not true.
3) palestinian refugees came from palestine, not other countries, as we all know.
n8glenn 1 month ago
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bulbulinush 1 month ago
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@n8glenn 1) No problem, but first help us move the Al-Aqsa Mosque and rebuild our temple where it stood in the first place; help us move every Arab village or town that were built on the ruins of an ancient Jewish village, town or land (as a former student of archaeology I can assure you this will cover almost every Arab settlement built in the last 1350 years); and help us reclaim ownership on every Jewish property stolen throughout history..
2) So, they can return to "Palestine" - not Israel.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
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3) No Arab had a "natural right" for any square inch in the Land of Israel. The Arabs were imperialist-colonialist occupiers who were siting on a stolen Jewish land, and their crimes of the past are not an excuse for crimes in the future.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush Everybody has an equal right to land. You can't just assert that land is "jewish land" because you presume that some ancestor of yours lived their thousands of years ago. Anyone who owns land or has lived on land for centuries has the right to that land.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@Ramatganski Now, as far as being angry and blaming people, I don't know what exactly in my life I could blame on israel or zionism. I have if anything profited from what israel has done, as an american with access to low gas prices. I am not angry, and I don't need to blame anybody for anything, but I do feel outraged at injustice, and that outrage is compounded by the fact that society at large does not understand the truth and supports injustice.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@bulbulinush Do not link to videos, and don't make claims you can't back up with logic or facts. There's no way that palestinians can be equal to jews in a "jewish state", because the state defines itself as an ethnicity, meaning palestinians are not even included in the definition of the state! If you're here for discussion, let's talk, if you're here to disseminate propaganda, you will be quickly blocked and comments removed. Links removed.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Well, the fact is that the Arabs enjoy equal rights as Jews by law, and they live in the "Jewish State" like many other minorities who live in other "National-Stats" (Surely they enjoy better equality and rights than non-Arab and non-Muslim minorities in Arab and Muslim countries - which you're not so worried about). The only pro-Jewish "discrimination" is the migration "Law of Return" (but it's hard to prove that fact if I can't back-up my claims with any testimonies and references)..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush No, they do not, the state defines itself by ethnicity and the law of return is only the first racist law, many laws explicitly reference the law of return in order to be racist without appearing to be so. The law of return and the denial of the right of return to refugees together form a totally unjust practice and amount to ongoing ethnic cleansing, and of course ZERO new towns have been established for palestinians, who are almost never given building permits.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Rahat, Ar'arat an-Naqab, Bir Hadaj, Hura, Kuseife, Lakiya, Shaqib al-Salam and Tel as-Sabi - are all names of new towns out of your "ZERO new towns" that were established for Arabs by the governments of Israel (and many more were established by Arabs and recognized by the state).
The Arabs "are almost never given building permits" 'cause their own city consuls don't make "Outline plans" on purpose - so they have an excuse to build big one-family-houses illegally, and grab more lands..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush Bullshit. Rahat is a resettlement camp!!! The bedouins were forced to move their after their village was repeatedly destroyed. As for the others, I will need to look into that, but I am quite sure they are either old, nonexistent, or resettlement camps as well. And don't even try to tell me that palestinians deny THEMSELVES building permits on purpose. That makes no logical sense. Yeah, they want to deny themselves permits, so they can BUILD HOUSES?! Oh boy.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@bulbulinush So far I have found that seven of these towns, including "aarat al-naqab, are resettlement camps.
"In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the Israeli government revived the idea of resettling the Bedouins and designed new plans for seven towns: Tel al Saba’, Rahat, Ararat Al Naqab, Kasifah, Shaqeeb al Salam, Hora and Al-Leqya. The government did so without taking into consideration the Bedouins' traditional lifestyle and without consulting the Bedouin communities."
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Anyway, I'd love it if you gave me few examples for those "many laws" who "explicitly reference the law of return in order to be racist without appearing to be so".. I'm always ready to learn new things about my own country (and I'm sure I can always learn from you a lot about the status of minorities in many other countries in the world that you're keeping a close eye on - 'cause I'm sure you're not just piking on our tiny country out of all the horrible places in the world, right?)..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush Maybe you're right, maybe I don't have the right to object to racial and religious discrimination, ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, etc! Maybe I should be silent and lie while israel uses my tax money to destroy palestinians and steal their land, after all, what right did MLK have to criticize the south?! Where are all of his statements about south africa or saudi arabia?! What right did the allies have to stop the holocaust? Were they "anti-nazi germany"?
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn
1) "Racial discrimination" has nothing to do with our case. Are you mixing your problems at home with ours?
2) If your worried about any of your "tax money" going to us - don't. it's better in our hands than yours. I'm not talking about Hiroshima&Nagasaki or 3-4 million dead Vietnamese.. During your last war in Iraq more than 150,000 ppl were killed - that's 3 times more than all Arabs killed in all wars with Israel.
6000 were killed in Fallujah alone, and only 3000 Pal's in the Nakba.
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush America is not an ethnic nation. It's not the "state of white people, wherever they may live", it's the state of it's citizens and that is defined as people who were born in our territory, or naturalized. You can't say that about israel, and my tax money should not go to any of those things, OR israel, at least if israel is as it is today. So no, my money is better in MY hands, not in your hands, and not in the army's hands.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn What does it matter if America is an "ethnic nation" or not? As a citizen of the U.S.A you share responsibility in everything your elected governments are doing, and it's your "tax money" that came bursting, with a blaze, through the rooftops and walls of millions of people around the world in recent decades (and you also helped the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, and financed dozens of evil and oppressive regimes world-wide).. Israel should be the last thing on your conscience..
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush I speak out against and oppose all of the evil my government does, you vocally support and argue for the evil your government does, so don't tell me that I need to remain silent while palestinians are being victimized and discriminated against. I won't be silent, I will speak out because the truth needs to be told.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Really? But why from all the BIG evils in the world are you so focused on our tiny Jewish state -which is smaller than New-Jersey? Why, from all the lost property in the 20th century, you're focused on "Palestine"? Why not demand that the descendants of Arab-Muslim refugees from 1948 will get full citizenship and rights in the Arab-Muslim stats where they were born and lived for 64 years - just as Jews from those stats got it in Israel - and will stop being used as a weapon against us?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush I demand what I think is just, and I have criticized many, many countries for their bad conduct, including my own. However, in my country, the state of israel has unqualified support from a vast majority of the population, based on racism, and ignorance of basic history and current events. I don't have to spend much time convincing people that the government of iran, for example, is doing bad things and should be pressured to change.
n8glenn 1 month ago
OK. Listen: back off a little bit and have a think about where you are and what you are doing. I'd appreciate it if you move backwards a bit and reassess your attitude towards people. We want to be treated fairly and respectfully. For some reason you have been aggressive towards people (with an excuse of caring about us) and you've been just pushing more of the harmful aggression that is causing intolerable violence and suffering. Take a punching-bag and leave actual people's live's alone.
Ramatganski 1 month ago
@Ramatganski Not sure what you're talking about, but I am not agressive, I speak the truth for the good of all, including jews.
n8glenn 1 month ago
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@n8glenn OK. You claim that you "speak the truth for the good of all". That is estimable. But, seriously, If that is the case, why are you only worried about the "racism of Jews in Israel" and not worried about racism among so many Palestinian Arabs - like those important Palestinian leaders from both Fatah and Hamas that you can see in the next videos, for example:
watch?v=k83bul6tfdY
watch?v=9Fic15V8ChE&feature=channel_video_title
You have nothing to say about that part of the equation?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush I'm not at all concerned about "the racism of jews", jews are not racist in general, but zionism has proceeded on a path that excludes people who are not regarded as jewish by the state of israel and discriminates against those people. If there is no state discrimination, then those people who are bigoted are not a real problem. All societies have bigoted people in them, but when government does not discriminate, it's not a problem.
n8glenn 1 month ago
Hello. Because of the concern of what people who recognize themselves as a particular group are doing to people who recognize themselves as yet another particular group - it is just to act to minimize the harm. The people who've been recognizing themselves as "Palestinians" have been recognizing themselves as such with the notion that there are people called "Jews" who are not allowed to have equal rights among "Arabs". This has been causing conflicts and violence from the get go. Now what?
Ramatganski 1 month ago
@Ramatganski Bullshit. Palestinians do not abuse israeli jews in israel, israeli jews are given special rights by the "jewish state" which palestinians do not have. If you try to say otherwise, then you have to be either lying or completely and utterly living in a fantasy world. There's no way you could look at gaza and the west bank and conclude that the problem is "the arabs" imposing their will on jews.
n8glenn 1 month ago
You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's futile going about proving you wrong with the existing factual contingent circumstances in the present and in the past. "Bullshit..." with the same or some other, one sided fabrications - would be your reply. Aggressive is the right word, not only in describing the attitude and a preoccupation in righteous rage, choosing "sides" in conflicts, but also in describing the violence caused by the position you have come to support. "Bullshit...".
Bird!
Ramatganski 1 month ago
@Ramatganski You can't prove me wrong, you can only make baseless assertions which fly in the face of logic and reason. Let me just say that I have chosen sides, and I am outraged, and that's not a bad thing. I chose sides during the holocaust, I chose sides during the nackba, and no one is going to make me feel bad about either of those choices, no one is going to tell me that the holocaust was jews abusing nazis, get my drift?
n8glenn 1 month ago
@porsheimahsom this is pure bullshit, you know my statement is true and you're making excuses because you know that I'm right, jews are NOT allowed to marry non-jews and bring them into israel, that's a fact that you can't deny. This is not the place for zionist propagandists to write pages and pages of lies. Lies removed, you are blocked.
n8glenn 1 month ago
09:50 - I find it a bit peculiar that you spent so much time showing us how evil the Zionists are and how they wish to wipe the Palestinians off the map, and suddenly your suggestion is that the Palestinians will live in the same country with these evil people? Aren't you afraid of what the Zionist might do to them? The "one-state solution" is just another way to achieve the destruction of Israel and to deny the Jews from their basic rights. Needless to say, the Jews won't let it happen.
porsheimahsom 1 month ago
@porsheimahsom I don't believe that zionists are evil, I believe that zionism is fundamentally unjust and flawed, and yes, many crimes have been committed, many people have been corrupted and led to do bad things by this ideology, however, those people can change. That's what happens in a democracy, people learn to live together even when they have differences. You don't want equality, justice, democracy, etc, but you have no right to abuse or oppress others.
n8glenn 1 month ago
09:30 - This is not a Zionist argument that the Arabs cannot leave in peace next to the Jews, it is an Arab and Muslim argument. Do your little search here in YT or go to Memri and see for yourself what the Arabs are saying about Jews and what kind of future they wish you have with them. And as long as this is the situation, as long as the Palestinians and the Arabs are not ready to live in peace with Israel and accept the Jews' national rights, there will no be peace in that region.
porsheimahsom 1 month ago
@porsheimahsom No one should accept those 'national rights'. No one should accept the 'national rights' of africaaners to have a white south africa, or the 'national rights' of nazis to have an aryan germany. You can make racist generalizations about arabs and muslims all you want, tell me that "arabs are bad", but that's just hate speech, and not a good excuse to maintain inequality and oppression of others.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Should the British accept the 'national rights' of the Irish People or could they decide to go back and annex Ireland to Great Britain - after all, if Africaaners shouldn't get a white state why should those racist Irish ppl, who don't like the Brits, get it? Should India accept the 'national rights' of racist Pakistani ppl, or can they claim Pakistan back as a part of India? And what about the racist ppl of Tibet who don't wan't to be part of China? Should the U.S.A annex Afghanistan?
bulbulinush 1 month ago
@bulbulinush No one has a "national right" to abuse people who do not fit into an ethnic or religious group. If the irish wish to discriminate against their citizens who are not ethnically irish, they should be prevented from doing that if possible. Of course, you can't just call people racist because they have a nation, that's preposterous, but if tibetans are discriminating against someone, then you could of course criticize that.
n8glenn 1 month ago
09:00 - Just to add to the previous comment, Israel is the only country in that area in which there are Palestinians who are not locked in camps. Israel gave all its Palestinians citizenship. There are NO Palestinian refugee camps in Israel.
porsheimahsom 1 month ago
@porsheimahsom I'm sorry, but that's absurd. Gaza is a giant camp maintained by israel, the villages in the west bank are for all practical purposes camps, they are surrounded by check points and encroached upon by roads and settlements the palestinians cannot enter into or use. The refugee camps in other countries are israel's doing, israel could empty those camps tomorrow by allowing those people to return to their homes.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn
Porsheimahsom is right. First, there are no "refugee camps" within Israel. Gaza is (1) neither a "giant camp" and (2) Gaza is not within the borders of Israel. The Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt from 1949-1967. It was completely under Israeli military and Civil Authority control (but never annexed into Israel) from 1967-1995. After 1995, some Israeli settlements remained with military protection. Post-2005, all Israeli settlements and military were removed.
YehudiMaamin 1 month ago
@YehudiMaamin Don't be absurd, that argument is for the foolish and ignorant, I am neither. I know that under international law israel is right now occupying gaza militarily, just think about it, their army is around gaza, they control the borders, and control what gazans can get and where they can go by force! That's military occupation, or open warfare, take your pick. Gaza is a giant israeli prison, and the west bank is annexed by israel, any fool can see that.
n8glenn 1 month ago
Very good. Absolutely it's warfare, Israel is de facto and de jure at war with the hostile government that controls the Gaza Strip, the Hamas government. It's quite standard for a country to blockade the territory of its enemy during wartime and do everything to prevent unauthorised entry of people under a hostile government's control. That's not the same as occupying.
YehudiMaamin 1 month ago
@YehudiMaamin And israel started that war when the residents of gaza voted the wrong way in a free election. Don't forget that under international law, israel is occupying gaza and waging war on gaza, and that means that israel, which pursues this war unilaterally, had no right to complain about hamas rockets, or anything else for that matter. Israel is waging war on a civilian population of 1.5 million people, which it has trapped on a tiny strip of land and is starving.
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@n8glenn Israel is not occupying Gaza in any definition. Gazans started intensive terror war in 2000 and since then launcing rockets intentionaly on civilians. Israel is reacting only against the source of that terror. No Israeli soldier staying on Gaza. There is no starvation in Gaza. Although the Islamic terror Israel is still supply water, electricity, food and medicine to Gaza, although by any rule she might stop all that help to the Gazans as long as terror continues against Israel.
aviefar 1 month ago
@aviefar Under international law, military occupation is defined as controlling an area directly with troops or controlling it indirectly from the borders with troops, which is what israel is doing. Israel controls everything, down to how much food gazans can eat and whether they get medical care, and there is in fact starvation in gaza, although no one is actually dying of starvation, which is by design. They don't want to attract too much attention to what they're doing.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Under international law Israel doesn't occupy Gaza. Gaza is free to make peace or war with Israel. They chose the war. The fact that Israel has an ecxellent Army is not a factor in your definition and accusation. You can't blame now the Jews that they can tacle any offensive against them. Israel can stop all Gazan's imports through her soil because of the war, Gazans are invited to import through Egypt. You can't murder Israelis and coplain when ther react properly. Gaza has new malls
aviefar 1 month ago
@aviefar You're wrong, under international law, when you surround a country and control that country by force, from the outside, you are militarily occupying that country. Gazans are not waging war on israel, israel is waging war on gaza, and has been since the gazans voted the wrong way in a free election. Now, israelis are right now shooting at gazans from the border, and have killed about 100 gazans for each israeli killed by gazans and if you start talking about malls you're gone.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@aviefar I will not have my time wasted talking about whether or not gazans are shopping in luxury malls or relaxing at day spas or vacationing in luxury resorts at the expense of israel. That type of nonsense is a waste of my time and will not be tolerated.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@aviefar Now, if you want to define the IDF as somehow not terror, and hamas or fatah or palestinians as being terrorists, you're just being hypocritical. Terrorizing and killing people who are totally at your mercy is not ok simply because you're wearing a uniform. Bombing people is not ok simply because you use an airplane and not a suicide belt.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn The opposite. IDF is an ecxellent human army. Arab terrorists are criminals. Israel always aim against terror sites and targets. The fact the terrorists are hiding among their citizens makes the IDF fight more complicated. If the Gazans were stopping shut rockets the IDF would immdietely stop too. You can't blame the IDF because its huge military capability and Israelis shouldn't apologize for their military capabilities, nor Americans in Afghanistan.
aviefar 1 month ago
@aviefar The problem with that theory is that Hamas had a ceasefire with israel, which they scrupulously observed, even prosecuting people who broke the ceasefire, and israel never observed it's obligations under the ceasefire, and actually repeatedly broke the ceasefire, and that was what eventually caused hamas to respond, and immediately hamas offered to renew the ceasefire and israel refused. Violence is violence, terrorism is terrorism, and israel has a near monopooly on violence.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn
And no, the West Bank was not annexed by Israel. "Annexation" has a very specific legal definition under international law,it means one country applies its legal code on the territory of another country or its people. With the exception of East Jerusalem, which Israel did annex, this wasnt done for the remainder of the West Bank, signaling Israeli willingness to make concessions, which it has. Palestinians in the WB have their own (corrupt) government and laws.
YehudiMaamin 1 month ago
@YehudiMaamin Have you ever seen an israeli map!? They all show the west bank and gaza as part of israel! It is referred to as judea and samaria, with the explicit connotation that they are jewish land and not palestinian, and israel has been feverishly gobbling up land, fencing it off, creating settlements and settler only roads in order to claim that land, if that is NOT annexing, then the term annexing is meaningless. The PA is not a real government, it is a puppet regime.
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@YehudiMaamin I'm sorry, but you can't claim land, make it off limits to the local population, put it in your maps, refer to it as yours, make all the laws, rule all of the people at gunpoint, pay the salaries of the "government" officials, and then claim it's a foreign country. Again, I'm not ignorant or foolish, so I will not accept that sort of insult to my intelligence.
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@n8glenn And as for "foolish and ignorant" anyone who reads your thin-skinned exchange with smorglborgel where you insist that Arabs are a race can see that you are. You demand of him that he "tell you what race Arabs are", and set a condition that he's not allowed to say that Arabs can be white. What, pray tell, is wrong with saying that Arabs can be white? It's a fact that Arabs may be of many racial backgrounds. Stating that fact does not diminish any of their legitimate claims.
YehudiMaamin 1 month ago
@YehudiMaamin You are the fool if you believe that arabs are caucasians. Arabs are semitic, that is a race. If you want to mock and insult me by claiming that arabs are not a race (which is a racist statement, denying the identity of a race of people), then you can tell me what race arabs are or immediately be blocked. You have one chance to answer my question, what race are arabs and do not say caucasian, or I will block you immediately.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@YehudiMaamin You failed to ansewr my question, and as promised and as you asked I blocked you and have removed all comments after the point when you warranted blocking. You will not insult and mock me and while denying the existence of the arab race and then fail to tell me what race arabs are, that's not good enough. If arabs are not a race, it stands to reason you could tell me what race arabs are. Do not presume to determine or undermine the identity of other people.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Arabism is not a race neither Judaism. Arabism is the commom culture and motion of different tribes that gathered under the same unity flag. Arabism in not a race nor ethnicity nor blood. Please, forgive YehudiMaamin he is a good guy.
aviefar 1 month ago 2
@aviefar But arabs are a race, and yes, I know that race is a dubious concept, but if such a thing as race exists, then arabs are a race, caucasians are a race, africans are a race, it's undeniable because if arabs weren't a race, then somebody could tell me what race arabs are, nobody seems able to answer that question so far. Furthermore, whether you choose to think of people as a race or not, it's not ok to hate them based on their identity. I won't accept denial of arab identity.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn Arabism is quite a vast collection of tribes are are widely have great differences among themselves. Half of the N.African Arabs are black tribes that infiltreted through the Sahara into the northern shored and never integrated with the locals. Still there are conflicts among then mainly in Libya and Algeria. Some Arabs are Semites (culture definition too), some are blacks and some are Slavs (from Bosnia and Albania for example). You are right that hate is a fault.
aviefar 1 month ago
@aviefar I do not allow blocked people back on my channel, I am very reasonable with my rules, when people do not respect my channel, and/or don't respect my rules, they are gone and never come back. I have no time for nonsense, I am here to have reasonable discussions, not to provide a platform for hate or propaganda or to have my time wasted.
n8glenn 1 month ago
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YosefMikhaeli 1 month ago
@YosefMikhaeli I do not presume anything, I recognize that arabs are a distinct race, not caucasian, not african, not asian, they have a specific identity and I think you are trying to trivialize them and deny their identity so you can justify hating them and discriminating against them. You can't. You can't tell me that they have no identity, and you can't answer the basic question of what their race is if not arab. The fact that you even try to debate this is very telling.
n8glenn 1 month ago
ALBERT EINSTEIN-"The State idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with narrow-minded and economic obstacles. I believe it is bad. I have always been against it."
arcz10 1 month ago
Albert Einstein
"I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from practical consideration, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain -- especially from the development of a narrow nationalism.
arcz10 1 month ago
@Schmorgelborgel That's not what I asked you and you don't come back after being blocked. All alternate personalities will be blocked and all comments removed.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn For willfully violating my rules, you have mercifully been blocked. Link removed, now go cry about it.
n8glenn 1 month ago
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It is only a myth that Muslims didn't massacred Jews! I'm sure that Abu Abbass did a good job to cover the Arab sins.
"Solomonia: The Jewish Nakba: Expulsions, Massacres and Forced Conversions"
By "Ben-Dror Yemini" (Who you would define as an "Arab-Jew" - although such newly invented definition would be strongly rejected by 99% of "Arab-Jews")...
So, here it is again - do try to find and READ:
"Solomonia: The Jewish Nakba: Expulsions, Massacres and Forced Conversions".
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn No, it's not a myth. All religions, all races, have occasionally had ethnic strife, have attacked each other, however, christians have attacked jews far more than muslims have, that's a fact. Christians have always viewed jews as being foreign and bad, and muslims have not had that attitude as a rule. Muslims did not commit the holocaust, muslims did not commit the inquisition, and there are many other examples of christian crimes against jews which far exceed muslims.
n8glenn 1 month ago
from odedisra> After claiming "Arabs&Muslims don't just Persecuted&Massacre ppl who did nothing wrong" -You removed EVIDENCE showing Non-Muslims minorities are being Persecuted&Massacred in Arab&Muslim countries just FOR RELIGIOUS AND CULTURAL REASONS (and NOT 'cause Muslims have "evil GENES" or are evil "RACE")..
After claiming "Muslims don't demonize Jews the way Christians&Nazis did" -You removed the EVIDENCE of the Demonization of Jews in Arab&Muslim Media and Education systems.
SMART MOVES
JonathanR1970 1 month ago
@JonathanR1970 Excuse me, sock puppet?! I removed "evidence" that THE MOOOOSLIMS are guilty of something worse than the holocaust, the inquisition and the crusades?! I removed "evidence" that THE MOOOOSLIMS are all evil and persecuting jews for no reason?! I removed links to racist propaganda videos, after repeated warnings to the offender, who after that made sure to repeatedly do what I warned against. You're next if you question my ownership of my channel again.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@n8glenn ; Why are you deleting evidence that exposes your mistakes, misleading and Falsetinian proPALganda staff? Can't you cope with reality and historical truth?
MrGiddeonn 1 month ago
@MrGiddeonn I'm not doing that. I delete links to videos which attempt to demonize people because of their race or religion. This is my channel, and I won't allow you to lure people away from here to view racist propaganda, you will stick here and make your racist arguments and they will stand or fall on their own merits, or you can leave. Probably you want me to block you so you can whine about it because that's the best you can hope for.
n8glenn 1 month ago
@JonathanR1970 Now, I will give you some friendly advice, go ahead and disrespect my channel or tell me that I don't have the right to administer it, or break some other rule and get blocked, that is the smartest move you could make, otherwise, if you attempt to engage me and talk about the issues, you're going to get embarrassed, because I'm guessing you're just here to defend injustice and promote racism, and the truth isn't on your side.
n8glenn 1 month ago