MW3 Shotgun Patch - January 24th, 2012

[ilight8]

whens the buff coming to ps3?

[JustMeYaSee]

the spas is much much better, aa-12 sucks and is outclassed even by assault rifles at close range for TTK, fire rate, ammo capacity, extra ammo, reload time many times and spread.

[CPD0123a]

@JustMeYaSee The AA12 is awesome, but it is a 4 shot kill with damage. (at least on wii) The partch NERFED the AA12 because it didn't buff it at all, and it removed the ext mags glitch. It was good when it was a 3-4 shot kill, but now that it is 4+ shot kill, you have to really run up on somebody and hose em down. As soon as you see somebody, start shooting. Don't stop until you see them drop, or your out of ammo. (you need scav pro) Then, it lags where you're out of ammo or stop, then they die.

[mumakmaster]

the model DOES get a 2 pellet kill w/ damage.

[AirsoftBadBoy]

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MW3 REVIEW???

[Tyrannobenji101]

I bring you all good news final stand is like the black ops one now. Now if you get a noob into final stand your teammate who kills him gets an ASSIST cheers!!!

[HistoricLegend]

@Tyrannobenji101 REALLY??

[Tyrannobenji101]

@HistoricLegend yah

[HistoricLegend]

@Tyrannobenji101 For xbox or ps3 cause i play on ps3 and i tried it and it didnt work

[Tyrannobenji101]

@HistoricLegend xbox

[AnxiousNachos]

I'm so pissed I used ksg all 2nd prestige and all the time I used for ext. Mags is wasted.....

[WessRocks1]

this may only be me but does anyone else seem like the model got nerfed, because I used to get one shot kills almost always with it, now it seems like I cant get a kill no matter how many times i hit them.

[uberkewlmedia]

I dunno if this was recent or not, because I haven't been on mw3 for like 3 weeks, but I noticed today that you no longer can see enemy stealth bombers even when you have color-blind assist on.

[Mr88ANDREW8]

@uberkewlmedia you can't on xbox or PC, i still can on ps3 though

[uberkewlmedia]

@Mr88ANDREW8 Oh THAT'S freakin great......

[balisonggamer]

@uberkewlmedia Yeah that was a glitch that they patched on 360 at least

[KRT1390]

the striker is only shotgun that i hate because the range is incredible for it.. and it pisses me off when i die 50 ft away from a shotgun... its pretty much the models from mw2 and i wish the models in this game were better like look at this video and how many times he has to shoot to kill the damb guy

[EpicPremonitionUK]

@KRT1390 In real life shotguns up to 100+ yards range mate, its just that you think they need to have a 3 feet range like in cod...

[Joelbot10]

U sound weird

[bakuganplayerowner]

if the ext mag glitch is removed and the spas-12 and aa-12 doesent have any buff, dont that mean they got the same nerf as the striker and are now basicly weaker than they could have been before the patch? and model doesent change either? and the usas and ksg is shooting as much pellets as with ext mag before patch but now they have it default? i can't see any buffs here for the max potential of shotguns? only 2 shotguns are stronger by default. explain it because i have no clue what they buffed

[ElitexSquad]

Akimbo MPs fire faster than singles

[scrillakev]

I don't believe Robert.

[NaziZombiesFohEvah]

you sound like king kai from TFS..

[prairieboys10]

is there any use to the spas

[TrunksTheMusicEditor]

How to get Range, Damage and Extended Mags easily. Play hardcore. (No. Seriously.)

[F1Rocks1000]

@TrunksTheMusicEditor thats a good idea :), thanx :)

[TrunksTheMusicEditor]

@F1Rocks1000 Np, the KSG with Range is insane on Hardcore ;)

[TheWiiAndMii]

Color Blind Assist to Stealth Bombers doesn't work anymore

[dmxhtp]

Your voice sounds so series now

[rawr4372]

okay sorry but im still a bit confused, was watching some nice shots with the 1887's instead of listening. but wait, ive got a gold striker with damage and ext mags, what did this update do? i dont watch too much of these videos about the number of pellets, etc, i just use the gun coz its fun. so what did it do? originally it fired 9 pellets, but now it fires 6? dont know if thats too much of a difference. heh.

[MrHynyn]

meant to say model has a better spread

[MrHynyn]

Look at other videos, the ksg and model 1887 are the top shotguns in terms of 1 hit kills, ksg has a little more damage then the model but the model has a little range, ksg has a better spread, ksg is more centered but it also has foregrip, the model doesnt. In my opinion the model is most likely better then the ksg because shooting 8 pellets, only 3 are actually needed for a kill so its more tolerable when it comes to aim

[WessRocks1]

I may be alone here but does anyone want double tap back, not as a perk but maybe as a proficiency, at least for some of the shotguns like the model for its really slow lever action.

[MarrickFait]

Oh god fucking dammit. I wasted a Token on the Striker. I better get it fucking back!

[MonsterHunter971]

@MarrickFait you dont i wasted it on the AA 12 but since im on ps3 i still have time to have fun

[RottSimba]

the striker got nerfed by reducing the firerate.you can't spray your balls off with it anymore.

[MaxPayneInTheAss]

the patch for ps3 will come soon and do the things that the 360 patch has done.

[SlaykSerr789]

Amish, MP's seemed to be nerfed. Supposedly 50% decrease fire rate, which is about 25% lower than what it was before buff. I think I might actually notice it TBH

[WessRocks1]

not sure if this is a glitch, but it seems to me the model's pellets seem to come closer together the farther away the pellets get, at least as far as i can see.

[InfamousGamer0]

Youre annoying.

[jacobandjakob1]

im offended how u said the usas 12 sucked before the patch it was really good now it is even better though

[DrFindro]

@jacobandjakob1 You're offended that he thinks a gun in a video game sucks?

[somethingblue22]

@jacobandjakob1 i agree the only shotgun that was unusable was the KSG12..

[LeQuack147]

Dunno if you're aware, but on the PS3 as of right now, the USAS and KSG got that pellet buff, but the extended mags glitch still works, so they deal ridiculous damage with damage and extended mags. The USAS was making 1-shot's the SPAS and 1887 wouldn't dream of.

[xxRagingAmishxx]

@LeQuack147 with extended mags, how many pellets does the USAS/KSG fire? Is it more than 9?

with extended mags, how many pellets does the spas-12 fire. 8 or 12?

Obviously this is PS3 only. I don't have the game on both systems (yet).

[MidgetRage666]

@xxRagingAmishxx Does this mean that you are getting MW3 for PS3? I have been on your PS3 friends list for a while now and I just cant wait to play MW3 with you PSN is UK_Hitman382 by the way just so you dont get confused :3

[xxRagingAmishxx]

@MidgetRage666 plannin on it. I just havne't yet because I barely have time for 1 console at this time, let alone 2.

[MidgetRage666]

@xxRagingAmishxx Awesome, hope to play with you soon <-- that sounded rude, LOL :3

[Model1337s]

@xxRagingAmishxx supposedly they patched the fire rate on all the akimbo weapons which is bullshit because the G18's and mp9s are bad enough akimbo

[SlaykSerr789]

@Model1337s notsureifserious

You complain about the worst akimbo's?

...

[Model1337s]

@SlaykSerr789 I said that they are bad enough akimbo. they are pretty bad akimbo

[SlaykSerr789]

@xxRagingAmishxx How do you feel about the FMG9's now that the fire rate is 25% down?

[horrorlover927]

@xxRagingAmishxx

ya, I've been getting 1 hit killed by the usas like its the unpatched model 1887 akimbo from mw2

[LeQuack147]

@xxRagingAmishxx I saw them shooting 13 with extended, another person who tested claimed 12. 13 makes more sense with the 50% pellet increase. I forgot my results for the SPAS, but the other guy claimed the extend mags glitch still worked for all shotguns.

[ohargro]

@xxRagingAmishxx

With extended mags, the USAS and KSG are shooting at least 12 pellets each, some say 13 though. All the other shotguns are still the same and still have the extended mag glitch.

[MonsterHunter971]

@xxRagingAmishxx no amish on ps3 the USAS and KSG only shoot 6 pellets and the spas with ext mags shoots 12

[Chalkhous]

@xxRagingAmishxx It shoots 13 pellets, It is amazing with range since it already is a consistent one shot kill up close

[LeQuack147]

@xxRagingAmishxx I just retested on the PS3 today. Extended Mags glitch is still in effect, but the KSG and USAS are back to their original pellet count.

[MonsterHunter971]

@LeQuack147 they did not receive the buff i just tried it on a wall only with ext mags works 

[SLAYAXBOT]

@LeQuack147 Was there a patch on PS3? because for some reason I didn't get a patch download for PS3 today and i had to suffer leveling the ksg and usas to lvl 30 lol

[LeQuack147]

@SLAYAXBOT I believe it's what they call a "hot-fix," which is like a cheap version of a patch that doesn't require the usual update. That's what increased the pellet counts of the KSG and USAS. Go into private match and test both guns with and without extended mags. Last I knew, they fired 9 pellets without, and 13 with (some people said 12, so maybe I'm counting wrong). I haven't played much today, so it may have changed in the meantime.

[EpicPremonitionUK]

@LeQuack147 ON PS3 it isn't patched yet-_-

[LeQuack147]

@EpicPremonitionUK Hot-fix != patch. They can't change as much with a hot-fix, but they can apply it without everyone having to update.

[Unheardslayer]

They patch the stealthbomber color blind asist glitch is out

[DjXdepthXperception]

You know get a point towards your killstreak for destroying predator missiles with Trophy systems :)

[PflGlace]

So the spas-12 is actually nerfed? Fuuuuu..dge 

[kerrigor778]

I dunno amish, I went on a couple good games (for shotguns) especially with the spas-12, but I may have been lucky or playing against bad players

[nmanl1]

usas was good before the patch and now its even better

[zacharytanzhiyu]

YAY!!!!!!! PC PATCH CAME TODAY.....i think.

[asiancheeeze]

underground review is already out for those wondering :)

[ethadaking]

poor xcal and his striker :(

[01MEGABOB]

Ehh I guess I'm indifferent to it. BUT the ksg MAY be worth trying finally.

[toastyblues06]

If they didn't buff the rest of the shotguns, then i'm glad I got rid of this game. I'm absolutely sick of inconsistency shitting out of Infinity Ward's asses. They're a joke.

[OmgItsSausage]

Time to start using the USAS!

[razgrizinferno]

Guys the akimbo buff was an accident. They meant to reduce the rate of fire and obviously a variable got flipped around. They'll fix it.

[razgrizinferno]

So they removed the exmags glitch and gave my 2 favorite shotguns the exmags glitch by default? Cool.

[henry19sapas]

/watch?v=DE7u3sU1Uwk&feature=g­-u-u&context=G2625daaFUAAAAAAA­IAA Amish look what Drift0R said isn't it awful that IW buff the Akimbo Machine Piatols?

[TheGorilla999]

THEY BUFFED THE AKIMBO MP's! Drift0r said that it was true and he made a video about it.

D=

[henry19sapas]

@TheGorilla999 they buffed them D:

[jcheng28]

Things they still need to patch:

FMG9s

Assassin

Type95

Double MOAB Glitch

(and adding) allowing scavenger to replenish tac grenades except trophies, motion sensors, and scramblers.

[ThatGuyWhoSubscribes]

Also, there is a akimbo machine pistol buff. Yeah, thats right a BUFF

[rrr21able]

sooo basically they got rid of the glitch that made shotguns worth (slightly) more than a pile of dog shit, and made the usas and ksg have more pellets than the model and spas... FUCK THIS SHIT (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[MrCrystalm8]

BLACK OPS FOREVER BITCHES!!!

[MrModernwarfare233]

@MrCrystalm8 fag

[hauntedxxshadow]

@Gencturk92 actually despite what others have told u i know that when you get the full specialist bonus with all the perks it gives you the pro. I know this because i did not have dead silence pro yet and took a long fall with no damage. But only when you have that 8 killstreak unlocking the perk at 2 4 or 6 only gives you if you have unlocked the pro version of that perk.

[WessRocks1]

.... Anyone else think that the machine pistols got a faster fire rate.... I was just in a match and it seemed like a guy with fmg9s had a LOT faster fire rate than usual?

[lubi125]

take your time, amish.

[Gencturk92]

does the specialist package unlock the perks in pro version ?

[SlaykSerr789]

@Gencturk92 If you have Pro for that perk yes.

If you don't have the perk yet you still get all the perks at 8 kills, not pro obviously

[TheRushingRoulette]

@Gencturk92 No, you have to have the pro version of the perk unlocked.

[ovhargro2]

So in short, the KSG, Model, and USAS are the same at max level and the Spas and AA12 got nerfed at max level. Nice buff for the shotguns Infinity Ward

[iveayu]

wow spas is garbage now =/

[GibTG]

I think this sounds like something that the devs would typically do... The community wants to hear that the striker has been nerfed, but the devs want to maintain a weapon consistently better to give some players a advantage. This does make some sense but they most likely aren't being truthful... Remember when the Famas was nerfed in BLOPS?

[WessRocks1]

Not anyhting for the annotations, just wanted to say that when using the model, if you aim down the sights at range instead of hipfiring, you'll have a lot better chance of killing them, idk why, but the model to me seems BETTER at range than up close.

[darkshyne34]

I thought Striker's fire rate was supposed to be nerfed...guess not.

[lpfan4life0904]

The Spas 12 i found is usable now. Before i couldnt complete the silencer challenge since it sucked so bad. Now i have it leveled up to 17. I find its like the Model pre-patch, its hit and miss, but its more consistent than it used to be.

[Fan101ish]

Why do you keep playing this game?

[xxRagingAmishxx]

@Fan101ish I enjoy it. Pretty simple honestly. The game has flaws, but I still love it overall.

[uberkewlmedia]

@xxRagingAmishxx That, and it's not like you really have a choice. You can't just say, "@#$% THIS I'm goin back to black ops!!!!". You'd lose most of your viewers.

[xxRagingAmishxx]

@uberkewlmedia True, but I will never make a video if I'm not into. If COD gets boring for me, I'll move on and the channel will shift. I'm no where near that point yet though.

[iJacckkfrost]

@xxRagingAmishxx thank god !(:

[uberkewlmedia]

@Fan101ish it's not like he really have a choice. He can't just say, "@#$% THIS I'm goin back to black ops!!!!". He'd lose most of his viewers.

[toSTONEiGO]

akimbo full auto weapons now have a lower rate of fire

[jimmylegs105]

wait the underground review was already posted on yeosch.

[PhonicLion]

aa12 needs a range and damage boost

[BaconMaster246]

I think they need to add damage to the shotguns as a default. The grind to level 28 for the spas took a long time. Without stopping power in mw2, the spas did 40 damage up close. In mw3, it does 25 up close. As of now any shotgun but the aa12 or the striker is useless when facing an smg.

[AnkerBanker123]

I hate the the striker -.-

[115zombies935]

What did they change to the akimbo machine pistols? I havent seen anyone say anything About them

[ElmosKnife]

Striker has an ROF fix, you cant fire it as fast anymore.

[Or1chi]

I got rocked by strikers last night as per usual... I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks a nerf wasn't actually implemented (or at least effective).

[sneakyfellow]

Im done playing this game, infiniti ward are the worst fucking game designers ever. why nerf the shotguns?... especially when the fmg's have been the biggest fucking problem since the game started.

[realogre32]

WHY! WHY! WHY! are you such complete asshole Infinity Ward?

[RottSimba]

it also appears that the akimbo skorpions have a higher rate of fire now.maybe it was just glitching for me.

[RottSimba]

got my KSG12 gold on the first day of this patch,thanks IW for making the right choice!,I'm still kinda bitter about how the Striker still rapes everyone it gets close to when Rob said it got nerfed,still thanks to this patch,the KSG and USAS now stands a chance against the overused guns,the KSG12 with range is now severely overpowered and is really fun to use.i just wish all the other shotguns recieved as good a buff as the KSG and USAS duo did.

[mintveldt]

apparently all shotguns except the striker has 9 pellets per shot

[xxRagingAmishxx]

@mintveldt That's what bowling said, but it's incorrect. Go fire a model/spas/aa-12 at the wall. It's still 8 pellets.

[SlaykSerr789]

@xxRagingAmishxx Did you see Driftor's video? All akimbo machine pistols were BUFFED. Unbelievable.

I like this game still, but this is unacceptable.

[xxRagingAmishxx]

@SlaykSerr789 the akimbo machine pistols were always like that. I thought this was well known. I don't think this patch is what did that.

[SlaykSerr789]

@xxRagingAmishxx No, the fire rate was INCREASED. But they're fixing it tonight, look at this twitter

[ovhargro2]

@mintveldt

You know, this is one of those things that you can try out for yourself, and then you'll know that Bowling lied.

[InsaneShadow90]

I love how the top comments contradict themselves.

[henkekk]

id say the striker was the only shotgun that ever was balanced in mw3 (and that is with ext. mag and damage/range)

[MonsterHunter971]

@henkekk hahhaha no it wasnt it was the best shotgun

[henkekk]

@MonsterHunter971 yeah, the other shotguns were under powered.. striker was fine

[LeachingJack]

@henkekk i disagree. I say the naked striker is balanced, but with damage its edging OP. I don't mind the rate of fire, its the range on the striker that annoys me.

[MonsterHunter971]

i just tried the glitch on PS3 its still working

[ynkrock7]

@MonsterHunter971 the patch has only been released for xbox360. it will be released for ps3 in about a month along side the "new" cod elite map.

[MonsterHunter971]

@ynkrock7 sweet

[joepic85]

@MonsterHunter971 Not patched yet on PS3

[mentalpwnkake]

Great vid

[T55Storm]

IW you stupid Mother Fucker!

By buffing two weapons in a catagory you effectivly Nerf all the others

A nerf isnt a Nerf to one weapon when you apply it to all weapons

SPAS is still Crap!

& Robert bowling looks Like a Lying Testical!!

[Memory11212]

why do you keep updates for patches on PS3 and XBox.....what about us Wii players T^T we get patches too!!! when does it come out for Wii!?!?!?!? <.<

[SlaykSerr789]

@Memory11212 You're kidding right

[Memory11212]

@SlaykSerr789 mmmmbout what?



[GamingAddict15]

I love using the Attachements proficiency on the Model 1887...

[downwithCAPS]

So they basically nerfed the shotguns..of all things in the game

[Gordaton]

Fuck you IW.

[Mezztkd]

I love you..... Completely homo.

[AdenLights]

just take your time amish, dont rush it.

[F1Rocks1000]

FUCK, i just got my spas to 25 AAAAA

[LeQuack147]

Great, now my AA12 is EVEN MORE USELESS! And there goes my SPAS class. I hope the new KSG will be a suitable replacement, or I'm gonna end up dropping shotguns period at this rate.

[supermario863]

@LeQuack147 the KSG was buffed, so use damage and you got the next overpowered shotgun

[EpicFknBrutality]

@supermario863 All they did was make the Extended Mags glitch no longer a glitch for it. KSG + Damage now is still the same as KSG + Damage + Extended Mags was before the patch, and I don't remember hearing anyone talking about how amazing the KSG with Damage+Extended Mags was back then...

[Culiccidae]

@supermario863 I don't think the KSG is any stronger than before. The only difference is the extended mags glitch is built into the gun which allows you to choose another attachment besides ext mags. None of the other attachments really help it much though.

[LeQuack147]

@supermario863 I already tried the KSG with 9 pellets (through the glitch) and damage, I found the SPAS to be superior.

[shortdan5]

@GoDisHeLpeR Dang I gotta try it. Only tried the spas and usas, which the usas is a beast now

[shortdan5]

@Iroquois14 This is true (:

[shortdan5]

Spas is better but not great. The usas is amazing now. Idk y some people say they can't tell a difference.. Must be retarded.

[djluke7]

wtf right when i finally unlock extended mags for a shotgun they remove the glitch DAMN YOU INFINITY WARD !!!!!!!

[StonesTHATdontROLL]

@djluke7 haha same with me for the fucking striker!!

[bmanisking]

I love you.... No homo

[UnchartedNL]

fourzerotwo Robert Bowling

Updated #MW3 today; you'll notice improved lag comp, theater fixes, nerf to Striker, buff to all other shotguns, upload to YouTube faster.

[bmanisking]

@UnchartedNL Look at this Amish!!

[ganondorf66]

Dont really care about shottys but oh god fix the spawn!!

[tatboyhotmail]

What about the lag comp Bowling was supposed to fix?

[Iroquois14]

Robert Bowling is a fucking idiot.

[johnjohnjohn777]

I got the ksg 2500 kills title before the patch, it was like an achievement for me....now it means nothing D:

[uberkewlmedia]

Ran some tests, and the SPAS seems even worse than before! [2-3 hitmarkers with no attachments/proficiencies when target is 4 feet away with a shot to the chest/neck.]

Thank you Robert Bowling, for making a weak gun even WEAKER. Why don't you fix something like the T-95? Pug on ext mags and rapid fire, and that thing is more effective than the 50 cal. Does that not scream "NERF" to you!?

[EpicFknBrutality]

@uberkewlmedia Yes. Instead of nerfing the Striker, AA-12, and SPAS-12, they should be making ALL of the shotguns better(except the Striker, they just needed to bring the rest of the shotguns up to the Striker's level) and they should nerf the Type 95 a bit(by making the fire rate slower and getting rid of Rapid Fire for it), as well as buffing the M16. Also nerf Machine Pistols by making them 5 hit kills up close and 8 at long range so regular handguns and shotguns have a purpose

[TheFaisalano]

@EpicFknBrutality Lmfao, 8 at range.

Skorpion = useless

MP9 = Useless

G18 = Useless.

Very balanced.

Rapid fire DOES NOT decrease time between bursts, it increases fire rate IN the burts.

If it had aslower ROF, it would be useless. Just decrease the 3HKO range.

[SamSaber99]

@TheFaisalano Well, the Rapid Fire makes the M16 and M14 automatic, i'm not sure about the G18.

[GoDisHeLpeR]

Tested all the shotguns. KSG-12 is now actually incredible. You gotta try it.

[GoDisHeLpeR]

Naked Model 1887 = slightly better.

Striker = slightly nerfed. Still kicks ass.

SPAS-12 = slightly nerfed. Giving more hitmarkers at close range.

Naked KSG-12 = incredibly buffed (on steroids). More consistent OHKs (on par with the SPAS with Damage)

Naked USAS-12 = amazingly buffed. More consistent OHKs.

[StonesTHATdontROLL]

@GoDisHeLpeR Spas wasn't nerfed. Check mw3 twitter, all shotguns were buffed apart from Striker which was nerfed.

[zJakers]

@StonesTHATdontROLL Yes it was before patch 12 pellets w/ extended mags glitch. Now it has 9 pellets.

[PhonicLion]

@GoDisHeLpeR aa12?

[GoDisHeLpeR]

@PhonicLion

AA-12 was slightly nerfed too.

[PhonicLion]

@GoDisHeLpeR if any gun needed a buff it would be the aa12, it should have more damage and range and shoot 12 pellets