'Growing Pains' Cast On Kirk Cameron's Religion; Cast Reunites for Entertainment Weekly

[TheRebelFag]

Mike Seaver believes Boner's in HELL.....

[reasonablehomo]

Kirk Cameron is a closeted fagget!

[yameted]

i think kirk might be showing signs of being a closeted butt-muncheer

[TheJulsisCool]

I can't take Kirk Cameron seriously anymore.

Not after that crocoduck shit, loool

[mrblacification]

well at least everyone admits that kirk did go a little crazy there for a while!

[thelordmemnoch]

It's ridiculous to say he would have been bigger than Tom Cruise as not all t.v. actors make it big on the big screen. In fact his movie with Dudley Moore was seen by a few and wasn't seen as anything special. He was the biggest child star, I will give him that, but that doesn't mean he would have been a big movie star.

[jerico641]

What better choice could Kirk have made than backasswards born-again christianity?? Jeez, Alan, there must be about a million better choices he could have made! Remember, this idiot has publicly held up a "photo" of a "crockoduck" in order to refute evolution, and sat by while his idiotic partner Ray Comfort made a fool out of himself describing how his god made bananas just for the human hand...he's embarrassed himself and probably all his friends and family; and STILL continues.

[WilliamTyndale1]

@jerico641 Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe, Kirk and Ray have a sense of humor? He doesn't call God haters idiots, why do you need to insult him to make your point? Perhaps if your sides' arguments were more than ad hominem attacks they would be more convincing and you wouldn't be so angry. Jesus loves you.

[jerico641]

@WilliamTyndale1

Jesus is imaginary. And don't kid yourself, Cameron and Comfort were SERIOUS about the crockoduck and the banana. I can't help by insult people like that, not to mention people who try and coerce others into calling themselves "liars" and "thieves". They're both amoral idiots, and I'd bet every dime I have that if all of us got in time machine and traveled back to Germany in 1938, both of them would be charter members of the SS. People like this are dangerous, not funny.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 why are you called jerico thats a city in the bible!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Oh shit! I didn't realize that! No kidding; I know it's a city mentioned in the christian bible (although it's spelled differently). It's also a code name for a cold war spy in one of my favorite novels; that's why I used it.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 well that clears that up!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

I thought it might.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 youre sarcastic and have a bad attitude I dont like the way you think youre superior and such a knowall!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Thanks, I appreciate that.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 a time machine thats fantasy so people will mock you too!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Don't be ridiculous; you know I was speaking hypothetically. My point was (and you know this too) that Cameron and Comfort are dangerous and show fascist-line tendencies.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 facists now are they?! no Im not being ridiculous and dont think that!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Uh, sorry, but I plan to continue thinking anything I damn well please. And yes, to be specific, I believe they're both theocratic fascists.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 yes in rebellion do what you want philosphy!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

You should maybe try again with that comment; it's so poorly written I can't tell what you're trying to say.

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

It's about time...

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 its your comment I was questioning that dont make sense youre so superior!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

And now I'm questioning your comment that "don't make sense"; thanks again for the complement on my superiority, though.

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

So end it; who's stopping you?

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 you with your endless comments that arent rhetorical!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Just because I ask a question doesn't mean you have to answer it (does it?).

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 its the weirdness of communism and you were making out as if it was a q&a session it was strange!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

What the hell are you talking about?

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 my sentiments exactly about you!!!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

*Sigh*...I just have to know, what freaking communism comment are you babbling about?

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 the1 your raving about not being a "national socialist!" sigh....

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 the communism and other comments you wrote!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

I think I'm gonna need a hit of whatever the hell you're tripping on if I'm going to be expected to understand your weird comments. What the hell did I ever say about communism?

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 no I would never do drugs you dont even know what you wrote?!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Oh, well, my mistake; I just took it for granted that you were stoned. Wait a second...you're not confusing fascism with communism, are you?!  Oh, man, please tell me you're not!

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 thought you were high since youreso liberal no decent people do drugs or would live a life like that see thats the stark difference!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Punctuation is sometimes fun to use in a sentence; you might want to try it sometime. I happen to know several decent people who have used drugs in the past, including myself. Have you ever consumed any alcohol? And you've just gotta tell me, did you REALLY confuse fascism and communism?

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 yeah right sure and why your going to try and be clever and say how coffee and alcohol are drugs are you?! Its you thats confusing everything methinks!!!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Alcohol is a drug; I didn't state anything about coffee, but it's a drug too. I'm sorry if I'm confusing you, but I can't write any more simplistically than this. I'll try to stick to no more than three syllable words, how's that? By the way, what's with the "methinks"? What are you, from the Middle Ages?

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 I know youre full of yourself goodbye!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Okay, bye-bye; it's been a real hoot, believe me.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 pompous ass!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

You say goodbye, but you don't go anywhere...

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 youre a dangerous fascist and piece of work yourself takes 1 to know 1 dont it!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

No, actually, it "don't" take one to know one. I know what Hitler was, but that doesn't make me a national socialist.

[MsFullheart]

@MsFullheart thought it might what?

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

I guess you were directing this comment to me, and somehow managed to send it to yourself instead. Nonetheless, the answer is I thought my comment might answer your question as to the origin of my screen name.

[MsFullheart]

@jerico641 yes will remove that then ok then, after all that!

[jerico641]

@MsFullheart

Okay, you do that, then.

[CaptainArrrgh]

A lot of obvious cuts in the interview.

[MrFernuti]

props to Kirk Cameron, he was bigger than Dicaprio and all those guys, but instead he chose to follow his faith.

[Spartacus217]

@MrFernuti How do you know the others cast members aren't religious? Why can't they maintain their careers and their faith?

[Furkin44]

@MrFernuti No way he would have gone on to stardom, he would have fizzled out like most child stars with or without "God."

[billygutter01]

Alan Thicke: "..what better choice could you make than to choose a religious, spiritual life?"

I would suggest that an interest in reason and skeptical inquiry might be a better choice.

[JohnAndRowForever]

@billygutter01 Precisely.

[WilliamTyndale1]

@billygutter01 reason and skeptical inquiry were what led me to Christ. Kirk doesn't seem unreasonable and he sure is skeptical of all the claims made by science falsely so-called.

[stramster1]

Kirk was "looking for answers" and took the easy option.

[WilliamTyndale1]

@stramster1 If it's so easy, why do so few take it? It was the hardest thing for me to do...until I did it, and then I only regretted I hadn't done it sooner. It's far more than just a story. It is THE reality.

[stramster1]

@WilliamTyndale1 "why do so few take it?"

You are kidding right? Over 30% of the worlds population divided among over 30 thousand Christian denominations not counting Jews, Muslims, Hindu, Jain and all other religions and you call this a few?

Understanding reality is hard work. It takes time hard work and the accumulation of knowledge. If Kirk really wanted to know where we come from he should have studied biology. 17 would be a great age to start. But thats hard... very hard.

[3BALL4]

"there was a shift (in Kirk)" thats cause God changed him

[HeavenBound2323]

I hate how they do that.

"How Kirk found religion" Kirk found Jesus not religion

[3BALL4]

@HeavenBound2323 amen

[sammy2trees]

@HeavenBound2323 Oh here we go again! If you want to claim to have a "relationship" with your Jesus then fine. But please don't try to convince us that Jesus doesn't represent a religion. Please look up what the word religion means. Jesus represents the god of the Old Testament and the god of the OT is the ultimate personification of religion.

[HeavenBound2323]

@sammy2trees Wow you guys are pretty ridiculous. What did i try to convince you of? I simply made a comment. True Christians have a relationship with The Living God.

[macklr21]

@HeavenBound2323 Amen!

[TerryBBurton]

Kirk, thank you for sharing your faith - 180Movie com

[MrMick73]

He killed himself because Kirk told him the God nonsense form morning till night.

[pbrskater26]

the way some christians guilt trip you into fealing like a peice of shit because the life style I live contradicts "traditnal" creationist theology, I go agenst the grain and think for myself, which is exactly the oposset of kirk camorens idea of christianity...I got to conform, reject science, reject free th

[pbrskater26]

Man, I would love to debate kirk, I'm a hell of alot smarter then the guys he interviews on way of the master anyways! I was also a former christian, I been threw those scare tactics and th

[pbrskater26]

As long as this false dicotomy contenues, I will never embrace christianity. There is to much dogma and religious rules that you guys conform to and you guys do the exact oposet of what jesus entendid, to love everyone! Not hate them.

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

Contrary to what you seem to think, there is no false dichotomy. Don't embrace Christianity; embrace Jesus!

And if you watched clips from "the way of the master" you probably know already that to hate is regarded as a sin (Matthew 5:22).

Rather than (maybe with some grain of truth) just critiquing others, how about you and I try to set a good example by loving the Lord our God with all our heart, soul and mind, and loving our neighbors as ourselves (Mt 5:36-40).

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

Well, politicly there is, yes kirk is apart of it,I dont hate kirk as a person, but what he is teaching is harmful, saying the only way to be a good christian is to conform to creationist theology, that its wrong to think for your self, meaning That I am open minded to the fact good could have sparked evolution, but to traditnal thinkers like kirk , the fact I think this way i'm not a true christian, I'm a harritic, a balsphemer. As long as that happens, i remain an atheist!

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

I think we should fix our eyes upon God and not upon the (maybe too dogmatic) beliefs of man.

You shouldn't reject God just because some random people call you a heretic, a blasphemer or not a true Christian. To reject God because of this wouldn't be reasonable but purely emotional.

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

Well its a valid agument, alot of people feal this way! KIRK, PAT ect who conform to traditnal views, hell almost old testament, stone the un believer, or one who is a believer yet questians surtan things. I started questianing when I was 20, when I took my first biology class in college realisng that creationist theology dose not add up, to the old testament I would be stoned to death for questianing religious authority. Kirk and Pat Robertson still think like that!

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

Oh, come on. Nobody is out to stone you.

From what little I studied, young earth creationism does add up. Of course, you have to keep in mind that it is a supernatural view of the development on earth, but so what?

However as you know you certainly don't have to be a YEC to be a Christian.

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

Let me run a little argument for the existence of God past you and see what you think:

Ontological Argument for God

(video: /watch?v=dr36HID62wM)

1. It is possible that a maximally great being exists. [comment: that is a being greater than which nothing can be conceived]

2. If it possible that a maximally great being exists, then a maximally great being exists in some possible world.

[scabw]

@scabw

3. If a maximally great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world. [comment: If a maximally great being couldn't exist in some possible world it would not be maximally great because something greater could be imagined, like a being that would exist in all possible worlds.]

4. If a maximally great being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.

[scabw]

@scabw

5. If a maximally great being exists in the actual world, then a maximally great being exists.

6. Therefore, a maximally great being exists.

[pbrskater26]

There are alot of christians who support evolution, but to traditinal creationist thinkers like kirk, they are not real christians. If there was a god, how do you know that god did not spark the process of evolution? Why would god lay out thousends of fossels to trick us? This makes me so angry. There is no cowal between evolution and christianity, that was a false dicotamy brought on my the conservitive wedge from YEC's like kirk so they can replaise naturalism with supernaturalism.

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

>If there was a god, how do you know that god did not spark the process of [macro] evolution?

Maybe He did.

>Why would god lay out thousands of fossils to trick us?

He did not.

[scabw]

Kirk Cameron is a great guy. I have nothing but respect for him.

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

grate guy? Uh no, he is anti-science and anti-intellectual

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

Kirk Cameron is an anti-science creationist, he supports rejecting intellectual thought for religious authority. Him and his crazy bannana man buddy ray comfort.

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

He is neither anti-science nor "anti-intellectual". If you make such allegations, you should be able to prove them. Otherwise, this looks to me like you are committing slander.

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

The fact that he said this on way of the master, the only way to get people to believe in god is to circomnavigate the intellect, just proved to me he is not intelligent enough to understand science and biology. Whats sad is that creationists like him go on with the logic if the natural world cant explain everything, then it had to have been supernatural. It's people like him, is the reason i'm atheist/naturalist/humanist. To say god did it thats it, is intellectualy lazy!

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

>the only way to get people to believe in god is to circumnavigate the intellect

I'd like to see the video where he said that. But even if he made such a statement that wouldn't necessarily prove he's anti-intellectual, just that he thinks there is more to a human being than just the intellect. Though that may be arguable, I guess.

What this statement wouldn't prove at all is that he's "not intelligent enough to understand science and biology".

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

Ok, the fact that creationism dose not explain biology and how biology works. Creationism is not science! He rejects evolution which is science. Kirk like all traditinal christian thinkers believ

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

I agree, creationism is not science. But neither is macro evolution. At least not observational science (more or less: something you can test in a lab). Nobody denies that there is micro evolution.

And no, you don't have to reject macro evolution in order to be a "true" Christian. To be a Christian means to be a follower of Jesus. You don't have to be a young earth creationist (or macro evolutionist for that matter) in order to be a sister/brother in Christ.

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

Wow, macro evolution not observible? Look at darwins finches, thats a nice example of specieation! I dont believe we showed up 3000 years ago already fully evolved or other animals that were fully evolved that there was no decent with modification. Are you thinking evolution is like kirk camorens crocduck picture? Thats what alot of un educated christians think evolution is, Pat Robertson, Ray, That guy who did the creationist musiem, kent hovend his phd was from an uncredited school

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

"Darwin's finches" would fall under micro evolution. To clarify: By micro evolution I mean small-scale change allowing an organism to adapt to its environment. Macro evolution would be for example the molecules-to-man evolution Darwin promoted.

No, I don't think evolution is like a crocduck picture. And I don't know why you have to label those people as uneducated just because they have other opinions than you.

[pbrskater26]

@scabw

That a christian must reject evolution to be a "true" christian and conform to dogmatic ideals! thats what i'm trying to say. Yes I can out debate kirk if I ever met the guy!

[scabw]

@pbrskater26

>not intelligent enough to understand science and biology

I don't think you need to throw such insults at someone ... even if you disagree with him.

[MultiNottelling]

leave Kirk alone. He chose what is best, the eternal. He found the real joy, peace and love by serving the Lord. You have not experienced what he experienced. One day you will understand.

[AxeNewkill]

Cameron always was a joke. Nothing against people of low intelligence, but Kirk's intelligence is quite low.. YET he is one of the most outspoken celebrities there is! Frankly, Kirk belongs in a mental hospital. Basically, since he doesn't KNOW much, his thinking centers around FAITH. Intelligence is like eyes, and Kirk is blind to reality, so like a blind man with a cane, he must rely upon "blind" FAITH. Kirk is so sure of himself that he condemns almost everyone to hell.

[MrZombiejoe]

Thumbs up if you think Tracy Gold have the most SEXIST LEGS ever!!!!!

[sagebrushchuck]

He looks puzzled

[3sweetful]

What I wanna know is where is Ashley Johnson? Chrissy Seaver? Where was she?

[VideoAudioDisco09]

KIRK had a traumatic experiences and found God to explain it all away how typical. Certainly shows how God is to fill a need not a reognition of anything real.

[3sweetful]

@VideoAudioDisco09 I don't understand what you're talking about...are you criticizing someone else' s personal choice or what I don't know?

[servant869]

I remember growing pains as a kid, Great how kirk really changed. I mean he could have ended up dead, but God saved another soul. GOD BLESS Kirk Cameron, Great movies, especially fireproof.

[TheEgotasticRipoff]

am I the only one who finds it odd that Leonardo Dicaprio who was literally unknown back then was the one cast member who made it huge? From Growing pains to Inception...not bad Leo. Not bad.

[3sweetful]

@TheEgotasticRipoff I just realized that...GO LEO

[TheEgotasticRipoff]

@3sweetful I know right? Lol. Oh Kirk. YOu could have had an actual career. Instead you turned into an internet joke.

[justcallmesolo]

Christ is the best choice you can every make in your Life.

[Matt00851]

@justcallmesolo you know what another good choice is? taking a bible and pissing on it

[JonasRoxoxox]

andrew :( we miss you!

[JonasRoxoxox]

YAY!! part 2! thanks! :D

[JesusPuppet]

There are a handful of true "christians" but most are just Christ Stains.

[VideoAudioDisco09]

@JesusPuppet

I have never met or herd of a TRUE christian. Just lots of Jesus cult gang members.

Having read the bible no true christian can exsist by its definition, by christians own definition none have ever proved it.

[3sweetful]

@VideoAudioDisco09 "Christians" is a label for those who choose to follow Christ and since you've read the Bible you should know that nobody's perfect. God knows that no one is perfect and that is why He forgives us for our sins because no one is perfect but if you ever meet a Christian who claims that they are lying to you because no one is perfect

[JesusPuppet]

@VideoAudioDisco09 Well they that believe the loudest wheel gets the greez sure do make too much noise. I fully am aware of the understandings dealing with those that know not me and yet use "my name". I call those christ-stains and they will be left out of the next chapters of this long trip as we dip through the phyiscal illusion of "reality" at 5% over 95% personal preseption.

[xxxWarriorGoddessxxx]

I miss the 80s, the TV shows, movies and music was better than it is today.

[itainteasybeingwhite]

@xxxWarriorGoddessxxx And the child stars were a lot less. . . what's the word? Oh, brainwashed.

[xxxWarriorGoddessxxx]

@itainteasybeingwhite I know right!

[jjlwis]

BONER!

[VedderState]

Too bad no one wants to create and watch decent tv shows like this anymore..instead our children get to watch trash on tv, well if the parent's don't care that is.

[TheWoWdude89]

2nd !

[Matt00851]

@TheWoWdude89 stupid nigger. saying 2nd is stupid just like u

[TheWoWdude89]

@Matt00851 wat a fatass troll loser get over yourself kid you fail.

[Matt00851]

@TheWoWdude89 fuck u nigger. saying a number as a comments is dumb. but then a again you are a nigger. and racially niggers are stupid

[TheWoWdude89]

@Matt00851 and your racist ass is blocked , not even worth my time get to bed you fucking brat.

[evancortez2]

I had a huge crush on Joanna Kerns back in the day, she was the hottest TV mom of the 80s! Still is HOT!

[heroicman03]

first

[Matt00851]

@heroicman03 hey mom look at the big boy. he said ''first. il give him a cookie

[heroicman03]

@Matt00851 COOOOKIEEEE !!! FUCK YEAH!