i noticed ther is a user that thinks the old testament is written greek then compares such things written in the NT words.. pay no attention to such faulty analysis ot written in
hebrew NT in greek so can not directly conpare like that.
Praise God for as In Isaiah it say for unto us a child is born and HIS name shall be called.....The Mighty God...The child born into earth who became our savior our Lord and our God. "My Lord AND my God" John 20:28. Thank you brother for posting this! God bless you!
That is part of the violence in heaven Jesus sopke of in John. Jesus WAS a man He was God(WORD) in flesh..BUT ....he was conceived of the HOly Spirit as prophesied. Therefore He was the living example of righteousness to overcome sin. Jews work out their deeds in their own righteousness...Christians are empowered by the Holy spirit(IF they are walking in the spirit) and Jesus said it was the Father doing the works THROUGH Him. That is why he said call me not good.. Yes many liars are out there
itcrowdfan...he said that because he had to forsake him the ultimate penalty for our sins...to also bring us the spirit of God that may dwell in us..He loves you itcrowdfan92...he knows every hair upon your head and his ways and thoughts are so much higher than ours we cannot comprehend but a little... yet He wants you to see and understand Him more..through Him you can...
"I am a father to Isreal, and Ephraim is my firstborn."
So basically when John 3:16 (King James Version only) calls Jesus the begotten son of God, it actually means that God had sex and hence Jesus was begotten!
My friend, you will BOW DOWN before the Lord Jesus Christ either here or in the hereafter. Pray that God reveals to you His Love and that He calls you and saves your life!!! God Bless you.
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
Jesus doesn't consider himself as "good", then how can that same person be GOD Almighty? Jesus in this verse, clearly is giving exclusivity to GOD Almighty when he said "alone". If Jesus was truly part of GOD Almighty, then Jesus WOULD HAVE NOT SAID THAT.
Well, my dear friend, You SHALL bow down to the Lord Jesus Christ. He is GOD!!!! You might not believe it now, you will believe it when Jesus comes back in glory!!!
Lord in that verse is son and father..John 1:1 says IN THE BEGINNING..the WORD was GOD and the word was WITH God..Jesus came with the WORD OF GOD..being formed from the Spirit of God with human that He become flesh also and conquer all the temptations of the flesh that man failed to so that He became THE PERFECT AND FINAL SACRIFICE...
The 1st time the word God is used, the stronger Greek word is "HO THEOS", which means "Divine God". However, the 2nd time the word God is used, it is a Greek word "TON THEOS" which means "a godly person" is used. (Greek translations).
From the Greek (from manuscripts) reading of John 1:1 is:
"The beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was a godly person."
The translators of Bible have deliberately mistranslated the word "God" the 2nd time it is used.
The old testament was in Hebrew. God divorced his spouse Israel and made a NEW covenant of which the voice of the bride comes of Him...That is Jer 31:22-23
1st Jn2:3-4 say that many liars who say they know him but do not will be..and false teachers..Isaiah says the bride shall be made desolate and then the truth will be restored to His elect..and th fulness of Christ will be one faith(one mind)understanding. Which is happening now..restroing of the truth...the tares shall be separated from the wheat.
In John 1:1, the 1st time the word God is used, the Greek word is "HO THEOS", which means "Divine God". The 2nd time the word God is used, it is a Greek word "TON THEOS" which means "a godly person" is used. (Greek translations)
From the Greek (manuscripts) reading
John 1:1 is:
"The beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was a godly person."
I agree Jesus was a godly person, but in John 1:1, the correct translations does not indicate Jesus was physically with God.
"The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry."
If you say: "Yes, God does get hungry,"
then I ask: "What sort of God are you worshiping?" Such a God does NOT depend of food to live, but Jesus required food, which is why he was hungry, in Mark 11:12.
read 1 timothy 3: 16, John 1 the whole chapter, in his deity, he was God, when he came in the flesh, he felt the imfirmary of man, he felt man crave, he substain himself, as the eternal spirit, that he is
again in his divine deity, he was substain, cause he created this world, all therein, in the flesh he felt our pain, our need, our hungry, even those yet he was a man, but all God, God did not come on earth, as a spirit, if he did, the earth will not able to handle his glory & power on earth, he that powerful, that why he came as a man in the flesh, that we can behold him
Please read 1st Corinthians 15:28...He is one with the Father....the trinity..Father Son Holy Spirit...He sits BESIDE the father on the RIGHT SIDE of the throne...
My friend, it is NOT logic that will convert you to Christianity. It is the Holy Spirit Himself!!! Here's a challenge for you, Go read John 3:16 until you understand it. Read it until something clicks. I shall be praying for you indeed.
1Co 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
I know, because I find Chritainty a very illogical belief. The holy ghost which Christians believe in, which you refered to has not taught anything new, when Jesus mentions it in:
Since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we dont have a high priest who's unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have 1 who has been TEMPTED in every way, just as we are yet was without sin.
Jesus was tempted in every way, according to the above verses, but God CANNOT be tempted according to James 1:13.
God cannot "be tempted" and "not be tempted" at the same time.
Well, lemme ask you a question: if Jesus is not God than would he have conquered death? If Jesus was not God how would he have lived a perfect life here on this earth without sinning once? If Jesus is not God how would he have saved the human race from the wrath of God which is hell-fire. Why would God send a human being to save humanity when he had billions of us here on this planet already? JESUS IS GOD! dear friend, come to the LORD JESUS Christ and you shall be saved. All the best. :-)
Challenge:I want you to go and prove to me that Jesus lied when he said: "Before Abraham was I am". Go and prove me wrong, dear friend. You are fighting against God. The Lord Jesus Christ, the king of kings and Lord of Lords is coming back to judge the living & the dead. The Bible calls everyone who denies the deity of Christ as ANTI-CHRISTS. 2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
You quoted John 14:6 OUT OF CONTEXT. John 14:2: Jesus says: In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would've told you. John 14:3: If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am." John 14:4: You know the way to the place where I am going John 14:5: "We don't know the way" Thomas says. John 14:6 I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me
In context, Jesus says he is the way, truth and life. I agree, that EVERY prophet at his time was the way, truth and life, meaning ANYONE who followed Jesus at his time, was following almighty God, as Jesus was a prophet of God.
Also, Jesus says: "No one comes to the Father except through me"
This means that NONE of the sheep of Israel ONLY, was following God, except if they followed Jesus;s teachings, because every prophet received revelation from God, and Jesus was no exception.
Since Jesus was ONLY sent for the lost sheep of Israel (Mat 15:24), the 1st way the "lost sheep of Israel" could attain salvation, was to follow Jesus's commandments, because anything which Jesus said, was revealed from God, since he was a prophet of God.
Also, the 2nd way the "lost sheep of Israel" could attain salvation was to believe Jesus was ONLY a prophet of God:
Mat 21:11:
This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee
No, my brother. ONE MUST REPENT & BELIEVE in order to be saved. I don't know Hitler's heart when he died; but look at the theif on the cross. He believed on Jesus and Jesus said to him: "you will be with in paradise". God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins if we confess them and admit that we are wrong. No sin is too great to be forgiven.
ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, if I believe Jesus died for my sins, then I would go to paradise.
So, this means tomorrow, I can commit ANY SIN, as long as I believe that Jesus died for my sins, will I be saved?
NO!
IF everyone started doing that, there would be chaos in the world. If everyone believed Jesus died for all sins, this means even I CAN KILL 6 MILLION PEOPLE, as long as I believe Jesus died for my sins.
combatvetlawstudent , why are you hiding from me? You blocked me purposely, and you still haven't answered my questions, logically. I still have more questions which need answering, and I know your running from me.
Praying to a man, who was once a helpless child, will never work. Jesus was once a helpless child, and you worship him?
The holy ghost which you believe will not do anything to me, to matter how hard you pray, because I actually read the Bible, with proper understanding and in context.
What kind of a God would say:
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Jesus said that in Matthew 27:46 and in Mark 15:34
In the New International Version, the word "begotten" has also been thrown out in John 3:16 , by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 Christian Denominations say that this word "begotten" is an interpolation, a concoction and a fabrication, which is why you will not find it in the New Testament. Who took the "begotten" out?
32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 Christian Denominations
KJV says John 3:18 the only begotten Son of God.. THE ONLY Begotten Son of God the Word Of God IN FLESH AND SPIRIT Of God..the Word that was with God in the beginning and WAS GOD..John1:1
John 3:18, the word "begotten" has been thrown out by 32 Christians scholars of Highest eminence, backed by 50 denominations, who say that the word "begotten" is: an interpolation, a concoction, a fabrication of human handiwork.
Who says that? not me. 32 Christians scholars of Highest eminence, backed by 50 denominations.
also know that satan attacks the church with false teachings whih has hindered the power of God through the Body of Christ..that too was propephesied. He will return the one correct doctrine and restore the Bride of Christ..that TOO was prophesied...so scholars are not always right...Rev 3:9 Behold I will make then of the synagogue of satan who say they are Jews and are not but do lie, behold I will make them to come and worhsip before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
First of all, for God to become 100% man, he must have a beginning, because every man has a beginning. If God has no beginning, then it is not possible for God to be a man.
Man has a beginning, whereas God has no beginning. You can't have a God who has a beginning, and has no beginning at the same time, because it's contradictory.
Bible confirms that God is not a man:
1 Samuel 15:29:
God does not lie or change his mind, and is not a man.
But you see that is JUST IT...JESUS was NOT 100% man! He was conceived not of a man but of the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD. In the chosen seed of lineage of David of which Mary is. The dove that decended upon Jesus at baptism is the wisdom mentioned in the book of solomon ...which is connected to Jer 31:22-23 and Genesis of which God made man in His image man and woman made he THEM.
well, my dear friend, never mind what the Christians you meet say; HERE IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS: John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Jesus is GOD!Continue searching for the truth. consider what Jesus says:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
We all know flesh and bones are creation. If God is uncreated, God cannot be uncreated, while simultaneously being flesh and bones, (creation), because it is contradictory.
God can be the uncreated or the created. God cannot be both simultaneously, as both are opposite.
Yes He an and Yes He did. You cannot be God to say what He can and cannot do. He said He made man in HIS image...and Jesus was with God IN the beginning. Man had not the spirit of God IN them meaning mankind and it was prophesied in the book of Isaiah that He would put HIS SPIRIT IN MAN's heart and that is what He did. ONLY THOSE WHO CAME FROM HEAVEN WILL GO TO HEAVEN..and as Jesus said to the ones who would not accept Him they CANNOT ACCEPT HIm because of where THEY came from.
combatvetlawstudent, why did you block me? Couldn't logically answer my questions, could you? Your not my enemy, so you didn't have to block me.
In the previous messege, you said: "Jesus was with GOD in the begining" and "He (Jesus) was created of GOD's Spirit."
These statements you made contradict one another, as it is NOT possible for God to be ALWAYS WITH THE FATHER" because Jesus was "creation" and EVERY CREATION HAS A BEGINNING and has a creator.
Great testimony.
Brother the fire of God is going to ignite your ministry.
Blessings, in Christ, Jonathan
goldsmithexile 1 year ago
i noticed ther is a user that thinks the old testament is written greek then compares such things written in the NT words.. pay no attention to such faulty analysis ot written in
hebrew NT in greek so can not directly conpare like that.
ThePoodlePlace 2 years ago 6
Praise God for as In Isaiah it say for unto us a child is born and HIS name shall be called.....The Mighty God...The child born into earth who became our savior our Lord and our God. "My Lord AND my God" John 20:28. Thank you brother for posting this! God bless you!
pumkpineater 2 years ago 11
That is part of the violence in heaven Jesus sopke of in John. Jesus WAS a man He was God(WORD) in flesh..BUT ....he was conceived of the HOly Spirit as prophesied. Therefore He was the living example of righteousness to overcome sin. Jews work out their deeds in their own righteousness...Christians are empowered by the Holy spirit(IF they are walking in the spirit) and Jesus said it was the Father doing the works THROUGH Him. That is why he said call me not good.. Yes many liars are out there
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
itcrowdfan...he said that because he had to forsake him the ultimate penalty for our sins...to also bring us the spirit of God that may dwell in us..He loves you itcrowdfan92...he knows every hair upon your head and his ways and thoughts are so much higher than ours we cannot comprehend but a little... yet He wants you to see and understand Him more..through Him you can...
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
Praise God!!!
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago 11
Who was God's first born son?
John 3:16 contradicts Exodus 4:22:
"Thus saith Jehova, Isreal is my son, even my firstborn."
John 3:16 ALSO contradicts Jeremiah 31:9:
"I am a father to Isreal, and Ephraim is my firstborn."
So basically when John 3:16 (King James Version only) calls Jesus the begotten son of God, it actually means that God had sex and hence Jesus was begotten!
THIS IS NONSENSE. God does not beget children.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
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combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
BUT, you don't follow Jesus, as Jesus said:
Matt 15:9:
They worship me in VAIN; their teachings are but rules TAUGHT BY MEN.
Matt 7:22-23: Jesus said:
"People will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
Those who worship Jesus, are evildoers, according to Jesus. Your not following Jesus, I AM. Jesus doesn't want u to worship him.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
jesus never speaks in romans, chapter 6. he doesnt claim divinity.
my challenge still remains:
i challenge anyone on earth to show me
1 unambiguous statement in the complete bible, where jesus himself says he's god, or to where he says: worship me.
when i say that, i mean the verse should be:
in context, it should not contradict with another, it should be the correct translation and it should be logical
if anyone can do this, i will convert to christianity. no-one will be able to do it.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
My friend, you will BOW DOWN before the Lord Jesus Christ either here or in the hereafter. Pray that God reveals to you His Love and that He calls you and saves your life!!! God Bless you.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
My friend, I WILL NEVER BOW DOWN TO A HUMAN BEING, AND JESUS WAS A HUMAN. Stop using emotion all the time, use a bit of logic.
Mark 10:18 & Matthew 19:17:
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
Jesus doesn't consider himself as "good", then how can that same person be GOD Almighty? Jesus in this verse, clearly is giving exclusivity to GOD Almighty when he said "alone". If Jesus was truly part of GOD Almighty, then Jesus WOULD HAVE NOT SAID THAT.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Well, my dear friend, You SHALL bow down to the Lord Jesus Christ. He is GOD!!!! You might not believe it now, you will believe it when Jesus comes back in glory!!!
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
Tell me, if God DID become a man, why does God OPENLY SAYS:
Malachi 3:6:
I the LORD do not change.
If you agree that God did become a man, then you have to agree that God contradicted himself, because God says in Malachi 3:6 that:
"I the LORD do not change."
1 Samuel 15:29:
"For he (GOD) is NOT a man."
If you agree that God became a man, then you clearly contradict 1 Samuel 15:29.
You use too much emotion, and not enough logic.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Lord in that verse is son and father..John 1:1 says IN THE BEGINNING..the WORD was GOD and the word was WITH God..Jesus came with the WORD OF GOD..being formed from the Spirit of God with human that He become flesh also and conquer all the temptations of the flesh that man failed to so that He became THE PERFECT AND FINAL SACRIFICE...
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago 8
John 1:1 ALSO says and the WORD WAS GOD...
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago 6
The 1st time the word God is used, the stronger Greek word is "HO THEOS", which means "Divine God". However, the 2nd time the word God is used, it is a Greek word "TON THEOS" which means "a godly person" is used. (Greek translations).
From the Greek (from manuscripts) reading of John 1:1 is:
"The beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was a godly person."
The translators of Bible have deliberately mistranslated the word "God" the 2nd time it is used.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
The old testament was in Hebrew. God divorced his spouse Israel and made a NEW covenant of which the voice of the bride comes of Him...That is Jer 31:22-23
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
1st Jn2:3-4 say that many liars who say they know him but do not will be..and false teachers..Isaiah says the bride shall be made desolate and then the truth will be restored to His elect..and th fulness of Christ will be one faith(one mind)understanding. Which is happening now..restroing of the truth...the tares shall be separated from the wheat.
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago 8
In John 1:1, the 1st time the word God is used, the Greek word is "HO THEOS", which means "Divine God". The 2nd time the word God is used, it is a Greek word "TON THEOS" which means "a godly person" is used. (Greek translations)
From the Greek (manuscripts) reading
John 1:1 is:
"The beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was a godly person."
I agree Jesus was a godly person, but in John 1:1, the correct translations does not indicate Jesus was physically with God.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Also, you said that Jesus was a man. If Jesus was a man AND God simultaneously, then does God EVER get hungry? If you say: "No" it contradicts this:
In Mark 11:12, "God" felt hungry:
"The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry."
If you say: "Yes, God does get hungry,"
then I ask: "What sort of God are you worshiping?" Such a God does NOT depend of food to live, but Jesus required food, which is why he was hungry, in Mark 11:12.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
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combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
I asked you: Does God get hungry? I need an answer. Furthermore, I agree that Jesus WAS tempted. But, God CANNOT be tempted, according to:
James 1:13
God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone.
Jesus cannot possible be God, since Jesus was tempted in:
Mat 4:1:
"Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be TEMPTED by the devil."
According to your Bible, God CANNOT be tempted, but Jesus was tempted. Therefore, Jesus is different to God, and is NOT God.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
read 1 timothy 3: 16, John 1 the whole chapter, in his deity, he was God, when he came in the flesh, he felt the imfirmary of man, he felt man crave, he substain himself, as the eternal spirit, that he is
pastorhouston2009 2 years ago
again in his divine deity, he was substain, cause he created this world, all therein, in the flesh he felt our pain, our need, our hungry, even those yet he was a man, but all God, God did not come on earth, as a spirit, if he did, the earth will not able to handle his glory & power on earth, he that powerful, that why he came as a man in the flesh, that we can behold him
pastorhouston2009 2 years ago
That makes NO sense, whatsoever. In John 1:18:
"No one has ever seen God."
The MOMENT you say: "Jesus was God," this contradicts your Bible.
No only that, but if you say: "Jesus was God," that means God became "creation" since he was a man (according to Acts 2:22 & John 8:40).
BUT, all Christians believe God=uncreated, so the moment you say Jesus=God, that means God became "creation," and is "uncreated" at the same time.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for God to be: "created," & "uncreated" at same time.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Please read 1st Corinthians 15:28...He is one with the Father....the trinity..Father Son Holy Spirit...He sits BESIDE the father on the RIGHT SIDE of the throne...
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago 6
My friend, it is NOT logic that will convert you to Christianity. It is the Holy Spirit Himself!!! Here's a challenge for you, Go read John 3:16 until you understand it. Read it until something clicks. I shall be praying for you indeed.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
1Co 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
BibleTruth9 2 years ago
BibleTruth9 , I said:
give me 1 unambiguous statement, where Jesus, HIMSELF says he's god, or where he says: worship me.
In Corinthians 1:17, JESUS DOES NOT UTTER A WORD.
Read the red letter bible, because it will show you anything which Jesus said.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
i know, i used 1 cor 1:17 to show you that you will not be converted by logic or wisdom of eloquence, but by the holy spirit doing a work in you.
BibleTruth9 2 years ago
I know, because I find Chritainty a very illogical belief. The holy ghost which Christians believe in, which you refered to has not taught anything new, when Jesus mentions it in:
John 16:13
To believe that a man, who was once a helpless child can become God, is obscene.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
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combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
Hebrews 4:14-15:
Since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we dont have a high priest who's unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have 1 who has been TEMPTED in every way, just as we are yet was without sin.
Jesus was tempted in every way, according to the above verses, but God CANNOT be tempted according to James 1:13.
God cannot "be tempted" and "not be tempted" at the same time.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Well, lemme ask you a question: if Jesus is not God than would he have conquered death? If Jesus was not God how would he have lived a perfect life here on this earth without sinning once? If Jesus is not God how would he have saved the human race from the wrath of God which is hell-fire. Why would God send a human being to save humanity when he had billions of us here on this planet already? JESUS IS GOD! dear friend, come to the LORD JESUS Christ and you shall be saved. All the best. :-)
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
You said: "Why would God send a human being to save humanity?"
I CHALLENGE you to show me a single unambiguous verse, where Jesus "himself" said:
"I HAVE COME TO DIE FOR ALL SINS."
In fact, OTHER people wanted him to be crucified, NOT JESUS:
Mat 27:22-23
They all answered, "Crucify him!"
NO-WHERE does Jesus himself says in the WHOLE Bible:
"Crucify ME," or " I want to DIE for all sins of humanity!"
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Challenge:I want you to go and prove to me that Jesus lied when he said: "Before Abraham was I am". Go and prove me wrong, dear friend. You are fighting against God. The Lord Jesus Christ, the king of kings and Lord of Lords is coming back to judge the living & the dead. The Bible calls everyone who denies the deity of Christ as ANTI-CHRISTS. 2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
In context, Jesus says he is the way, truth and life. I agree, that EVERY prophet at his time was the way, truth and life, meaning ANYONE who followed Jesus at his time, was following almighty God, as Jesus was a prophet of God.
Also, Jesus says: "No one comes to the Father except through me"
This means that NONE of the sheep of Israel ONLY, was following God, except if they followed Jesus;s teachings, because every prophet received revelation from God, and Jesus was no exception.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Every prophet "AT HIS TIME FOR HIS PEOPLE ONLY" was the way, truth and life. At Moses's time, he was the way, truth and life (for his time ONLY).
Jesus was ONLY meant for the lost sheep of Israel:
Matt 15:24: Jesus said:
"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Since Jesus was ONLY sent for the lost sheep of Israel (Mat 15:24), the 1st way the "lost sheep of Israel" could attain salvation, was to follow Jesus's commandments, because anything which Jesus said, was revealed from God, since he was a prophet of God.
Also, the 2nd way the "lost sheep of Israel" could attain salvation was to believe Jesus was ONLY a prophet of God:
Mat 21:11:
This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee
Jesus was only meant for his people at his time.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Also, if Jesus did die for our sins (for sake of argument) then I say:
Adolf Hitler KILLED 6 million people, and according to your belief, JESUS HAS TO PAY FOR THAT.
Not only is this absurd, but it is the biggest injustice one could imagine. Also, it contradicts:
Ezekiel: 18:20-21:
The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
No, my brother. ONE MUST REPENT & BELIEVE in order to be saved. I don't know Hitler's heart when he died; but look at the theif on the cross. He believed on Jesus and Jesus said to him: "you will be with in paradise". God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins if we confess them and admit that we are wrong. No sin is too great to be forgiven.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, if I believe Jesus died for my sins, then I would go to paradise.
So, this means tomorrow, I can commit ANY SIN, as long as I believe that Jesus died for my sins, will I be saved?
NO!
IF everyone started doing that, there would be chaos in the world. If everyone believed Jesus died for all sins, this means even I CAN KILL 6 MILLION PEOPLE, as long as I believe Jesus died for my sins.
This doesn't make sense at all.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
In having "belief" that someone died for ALL SINS, means that "you can do ANY sin" if someone has already paid for the FUTURE sins.
If I became a Christians, and kill 6 MILLION people tomorrow, and I CANNOT turn around and say:
"I KILLED 6 MILLION PEOPLE, BUT I BELIEVE JESUS DIED FOR MY SINS, SO I WILL GO TO PARADISE!"
Is this justice? Please tell me, logically.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
You misinterpret the oneness of the Godhead. Jesus was fully man, and fully God.
As man, he was tempted, grew hungry, died, etc.
As God he cannot be tempter, fed mulitudes, raised the dead, etc.
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
combatvetlawstudent , why are you hiding from me? You blocked me purposely, and you still haven't answered my questions, logically. I still have more questions which need answering, and I know your running from me.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
AMEN!! My brother. I shall be praying for itcrowdanfan92.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
Praying to a man, who was once a helpless child, will never work. Jesus was once a helpless child, and you worship him?
The holy ghost which you believe will not do anything to me, to matter how hard you pray, because I actually read the Bible, with proper understanding and in context.
What kind of a God would say:
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Jesus said that in Matthew 27:46 and in Mark 15:34
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
I read John 3:16 along time ago.
In the New International Version, the word "begotten" has also been thrown out in John 3:16 , by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 Christian Denominations say that this word "begotten" is an interpolation, a concoction and a fabrication, which is why you will not find it in the New Testament. Who took the "begotten" out?
32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 Christian Denominations
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
KJV says John 3:18 the only begotten Son of God.. THE ONLY Begotten Son of God the Word Of God IN FLESH AND SPIRIT Of God..the Word that was with God in the beginning and WAS GOD..John1:1
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
John 3:18, the word "begotten" has been thrown out by 32 Christians scholars of Highest eminence, backed by 50 denominations, who say that the word "begotten" is: an interpolation, a concoction, a fabrication of human handiwork.
Who says that? not me. 32 Christians scholars of Highest eminence, backed by 50 denominations.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
also know that satan attacks the church with false teachings whih has hindered the power of God through the Body of Christ..that too was propephesied. He will return the one correct doctrine and restore the Bride of Christ..that TOO was prophesied...so scholars are not always right...Rev 3:9 Behold I will make then of the synagogue of satan who say they are Jews and are not but do lie, behold I will make them to come and worhsip before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
First of all, for God to become 100% man, he must have a beginning, because every man has a beginning. If God has no beginning, then it is not possible for God to be a man.
Man has a beginning, whereas God has no beginning. You can't have a God who has a beginning, and has no beginning at the same time, because it's contradictory.
Bible confirms that God is not a man:
1 Samuel 15:29:
God does not lie or change his mind, and is not a man.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
But you see that is JUST IT...JESUS was NOT 100% man! He was conceived not of a man but of the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD. In the chosen seed of lineage of David of which Mary is. The dove that decended upon Jesus at baptism is the wisdom mentioned in the book of solomon ...which is connected to Jer 31:22-23 and Genesis of which God made man in His image man and woman made he THEM.
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
Many Christians I've met say that Jesus was a man. Many say he was not a man. Many Christians say Jesus is not God. Many Christians say Jesus is God.
Every time I meet a Christian, I get a new ideology of Christianity.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
well, my dear friend, never mind what the Christians you meet say; HERE IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS: John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Jesus is GOD!Continue searching for the truth. consider what Jesus says:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
Exodus 3:14:
"God said: say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you."
The greek for "I AM" in Exodus 3:14 is: HO ON.
John 8:58
"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham I am."
The greek for "I AM" in John 8:58 is: EGO EIMI.
"EGO EIMI" was used by 100's of people back then. Does that mean they were Gods? NO!
If the SAME God wanted to claim divinty in John 8:58, he would have used "HO ON," but Jesus ONLY used "EGO EIMI."
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
John 1:14 says: The Word became flesh.
We all know flesh and bones are creation. If God is uncreated, God cannot be uncreated, while simultaneously being flesh and bones, (creation), because it is contradictory.
God can be the uncreated or the created. God cannot be both simultaneously, as both are opposite.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago
Yes He an and Yes He did. You cannot be God to say what He can and cannot do. He said He made man in HIS image...and Jesus was with God IN the beginning. Man had not the spirit of God IN them meaning mankind and it was prophesied in the book of Isaiah that He would put HIS SPIRIT IN MAN's heart and that is what He did. ONLY THOSE WHO CAME FROM HEAVEN WILL GO TO HEAVEN..and as Jesus said to the ones who would not accept Him they CANNOT ACCEPT HIm because of where THEY came from.
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
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combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
combatvetlawstudent, why did you block me? Couldn't logically answer my questions, could you? Your not my enemy, so you didn't have to block me.
In the previous messege, you said: "Jesus was with GOD in the begining" and "He (Jesus) was created of GOD's Spirit."
These statements you made contradict one another, as it is NOT possible for God to be ALWAYS WITH THE FATHER" because Jesus was "creation" and EVERY CREATION HAS A BEGINNING and has a creator.
itcrowdfan92 2 years ago