Do you reckon we can drive her back on ?: Australian trains and railroads

[MusicalMaddyline]

Was this in Newcastle? Near Port Waratah and all those other coal places? :)

[Rocketboy1950]

@MusicalMaddyline No, Melbourne.

[gmsd70mac]

ahh,we jst go to the lumber yard and get some blocks,i'll get a couple of jacks and we'll have her on the rails in a real jiffy.........lol.lol.

[DaveWVideo]

The driver had one too many Fosters before he went to work.

[Rocketboy1950]

@DaveWVideo Those days are long gone. IIRC the error was down to the signaller who took the road off him as he was on the approach.

[rozziboy20]

damn kid puttin pennies on the tracks

[MrMKH2010]

Alright lads.Lets just get a couple of ropes around her and we'll pull her back over. (:D

[Shield1751]

what country is this?

[Rocketboy1950]

@Shield1751 Australia, if the previous comment threw you the residents of the next state north refer to my state as Mexicans because we are south of the border.

[colsul]

Rocket, that's unusual for catchpoints to open when a train is occupying the track circuits. But you can never tell with those mexican sig elecs.

[Rocketboy1950]

@colsul No TC in the yard to my knowledge.

[patchroach]

ah 81 class bricks.. :-) slightly better than 80.. but still can't keep on the steel

[Rocketboy1950]

@patchroach "slightly better" I would have said better by a country mile.

[DANATRINGWOOD]

i doubt it

[BNSFandSP]

Minor??!!! The locomotive is on its side! You're lucky it didn't get any worse!

[rongenman]

uhhhh dispatcher, we are on the ground....

[fiveslots]

wheres your dad when you need him to put your train back on the track

[robertgift]

Don't ya hate it when that happens?

Cause?

[Rocketboy1950]

Allegedly signal put back and slips opened on approach. No time run down feature on yard signals.

[applesweeter]

Bad luck!!

[ewsiscrap]

Stop messing about get the KY Bruff out and have back on in no time.

[mordeth141]

your gonna need alot of wedges for this one lol

[thechoosendude]

They just called the good ole' boys to come get it unstuck. Got out their truck winches while the engineer gaver her a lil' reverse... came back on tracks, no problem.

[Rocketboy1950]

They wish ! Took a couple of very big cranes to set that right.

[Rocketboy1950]

Not in Melbourne......might just have been the controllers ###up if the signal was dropped and the slips opened as it approached.

[gergy008]

Reverse her on boys!!

[SilentKiller805]

Hey timmy... Your wife still got that workout thing? Ya know, the one that goes between the legs? What yall gotta do is wedge that sucker underneath their and she otta just come right back up. Works all the time on my truck

[KUNTZUCKER]

yeah i know whats gone wrong here....the trains come off the track see

[Rocketboy1950]

The steroids are starting to have an effect.............

[KUNTZUCKER]

what?

[countryboy44555]

@KUNTZUCKER

Yeah it rolled off too

[yambo59]

- Well THERES your problem.........

[MrAquarium]

Yeah, Big whoops......

I was right near a set of GP38s some years ago, about 30 feet, when the lead unit can through a switch and the hit the group, man I know it was funny, but damn,,,, tore the hell out of a few ties before he stopped, and he was only going maybe 3mp.....

[KUNTZUCKER]

ZZZZZZZZZZZ yeah really? thats really interesting

[1982pi]

Sorry for being a bit out of the line, but do you have any idea what % of lines in Australia are electrified (appart from purely suburban/subway type lines) ?

As a European, non-electric locs start looking kind of "kitsch". Which is of course an irrelevant comment given the distances you guys have and the cost of electrification...plus at least in this very case you spare damages on the catenaries ;-)

[Rocketboy1950]

I can't answer that question without doing some searching. Queensland is really the only place using electric locomotives these days. A lot of freight in NSW runs under the wire but is diesel hauled.

[unicron245]

just put a couple of wings and jet turbines and she can re-rail derail and fly whenever lol

[shelbyfahrer]

Why did that happen?

[Rocketboy1950]

Go back through previous comments

[Tequilaman45]

If I can couple to it I can pull it back on ...with enough blocks and wedges

[conductorron]

This can only be accomplished if the center pin is still intact.

[choirboyfromhell1]

Somebody picked a switch.

[GeoffBlackmore]

"The two gauges are not that different, let's see if it works"

[MexicanSupperMan]

is that at acacia ridge ?

[Rocketboy1950]

Melbourne/Dynon

[WARD5KUSTOMZ]

is that thing still running with it being derailed?

[Rocketboy1950]

I'm pretty sure that they shut it down. Not too certain how well the lubrication system would work at that angle

[k77jones]

2 much 2 drink?

[Rocketboy1950]

As I said on your other inane comment..........

[bsskng001]

it ran a derail...we used them in our yard and we had one of our engines take off and did the same thing...enginner for got to set the brakes for the night...that and a 4% grade....tons of fun!

[siqbrah]

how did that happen?

like, changing tracks and it wasnt set right and it just went off the rails or?

[Rocketboy1950]

See above.

[Rocketboy1950]

Sherlock Holmes lives !

[trainboy437]

It's in Trainz Railroad Sim 2006. I have it.

[Ahoope07]

in the words of James May "O Cock"

[ufn489]

Probably a Pammek (P&M) Derailer.They can be a blessing in many cases,but not all cases.

[GayBoyRunning]

just wonding how did u get it off the tracks in the 1st place ??

[Rocketboy1950]

It was purposely derailed by a safety device put there to prevent vehicles getting out of the yard on to the main line accidentally

[Spyro22475]

Haha! Did you know that the flight of the plane that crashed on LOST was flight # 815? This loco had the number 8115 on it. That's just funny because look what happened to it.

[ffej980]

i hate when this happens

[jimmydcap]

Differant looking locomotive.. Kinda neat looking,We in the States have A saying for stuff like this...SHIT HAPPENS..

[scott93257]

How do you get one of those back on the tracks?

She's got a flat :)

[Rocketboy1950]

Jacks and or cranes.

[scott93257]

Ahhh yes...Makes perfect sense.

[Flamingchickenvideos]

I think something might be wrong lol

[fixitdude74]

i remember this one, yes it was a d-rail that caused it to derail(pardon the pun) the loco, driver error, low speed accident.

[zastavia]

it obviously got so fed up of hauling all that sh!t that it decided to have a bloody good rest.

[Rusty2540]

holy crap

does that train

come to bomaderry?

[Rocketboy1950]

Standard gauge..same as USA. Cause was subject of argument. I believe that the driver argued that the controller took the road off him on the approach. Switch type derailer. We call them catch points.

[robertgift]

What gauge?

What caused the derailment?

A derail device which purposely derails any runaway cars to prevent them from rolling onto another busy track?

Is the derail device similar to a switch?

Thank you and greetings from Robert, Denver, Colorado, USA

[CMDRFandragon]

get a few people on one side and push >8D lolz

[RHWiRED]

Was this your train?

And I've just PM'ed you again (sorry :[ ) lol

[Rocketboy1950]

No it was not

[katbloke]

ooops lol more work for the S&T

[saiyoucho]

How do you run a train out of it's track like this? O_o

Seems like you would have to go at very high speeds in a turn or run over the wrong track or something.

[Rocketboy1950]

It was run through open catch points designed to prevent a collision between anything coming out of the yard on to the main line.

[saiyoucho]

Ahh. I see. I've never seen a train out of it's track like this before.

[Rocketboy1950]

not an uncommon event around here :-)

[josephkennith]

wat country

[Rocketboy1950]

Australia

[B10Mman]

Off road 12x12 thats how Victorians treat NSW locos

[Rocketboy1950]

It's a PN loco not a NSW loco and if you want to be parochial I recall when through running first started back in the 1980's and every Victorian loco that went to NSW came back rooted ! The third series X's had a far better cab than a 422 or a 442 but the hillbillies north of the border just couldn't adapt to change.

[B10Mman]

We couldn't adapt to change eh? You just proved above that it took you lot down there 2 f@%k up attempts to get it right with the 3 series X class. I'm glad that you drive trains Rocketboy, because loco cab design ain't rocket science!

[Rocketboy1950]

What in hell do the first two X class cabs have to do with the third series. The third series was simply ongoing improvement. Something I might add that never happened up north. The 422,442 and 81 cabs are an anatomical disaster. I might add that as enginemen we had sweet FA to say about cab design until many years after the first X classes were delivered.

[9035]

Used to drive 8115 on Hunter Valley coalies in the 80's and 90's. They were our "good" locos then!

[PacificNational89]

hmm..nice driven...lol

[sognol]

You're old enough to remember W265 and W266.

[Rocketboy1950]

More than old enough, I worked on both of them .........oh happy days :-) And the SG were 266 and 267. Of course more recently I had the pleasure of 241 and 244 on suburban works trains with El Zorro. Without a doubt my favourite job ever on W was bringing the pipes for Barrys Beach in from Somerton to the East yard. And let's not forget all of those wonderful stock pilots at Brooklyn and Newmarket.

[sognol]

Yes 266 and 267. Stock from Newmarket to Dande, wern't allowed to take the W past Sp St. Had to swap with a Y off the pilot. Not much got done in the pass yd a/c shunters banned it. Can't think why. RG.

[sognol]

Drive her on, no worries. Just grab the W class off the table and give her a big rev Sam.

[Rocketboy1950]

There weren't any SG W's available :-)

[DarkTower97]

d'oh!

[MBRHIndustries]

You guys are all mad. It was clearly the laser coming from the lightpost that derailed this train.

[Rocketboy1950]

No they only turned it on to provide more lighting to help with the rerailing job :-)

[coewee]

rocketboy1950 howdy can you tell me what are the laws about a a look in the cabin with driver in australia and prime movers cabs ride thankyou coewee i am 27 train lover thanks mate

[Rocketboy1950]

Not allowed, but some drivers will let you.

[aussietraindriver]

let me know what you think either way, thats what i heard from the driver and he was not at fault, i see where you comming from though, im also a driver but im yet to come off the tracks, lol touch wood..

[aussietraindriver]

but even at 5kmh with a few loaded wagons behind it would push it over, and because the embankment to the left of the moving direction was so steep it would have rolled down it, it only stopped a short distance past the catch points.

[Rocketboy1950]

No, the entire loco got through the catch points which completely refutes any possibility that it started so close to them that they couldn't be seen. I know from personal experience just how quickly they stop when in the dirt at low speed.

If not driver error then where else would you look......I think I know.

[aussietraindriver]

The loco cab was still in fron of the signal but the wheels were off the circuit which as a safety default caused the catch points to open, then as the driver could not see the signal at red as he was still in front of it, moved forward only to go left into the dirt and nearly roll, it was a design fault and the driver still has his job. cheers

[Rocketboy1950]

I think not. If the leading wheels were that close to the catch points there is no way known that enough speed or momentum could be had to put it that far out. These things come to a very sudden stop without rails under them. I'm not blaming the driver, there is another plausible cause.

[FROG1150]

thats an australian train from nsw right

[Rocketboy1950]

Australian, yes, ex NSW yes, now Pacific National which pretty much operates Australia wide.

[MickFix]

Thanks to piss-weak governments and piss-weak ACCC!

[CountVonBoco]

Heh, not surprised that 81 hit the ground.

Fouled switch i do believe right?

Yes, i am American, and i do live in the US, but i do know about NSWGR, and Pacific National.

Cheers.

Count

[guitarshredder18]

lol, right beside the Bolte bridge

[formidable38]

Will the driver get a DCM? (dont come monday!)

[Rocketboy1950]

I doubt it, shit happens and it costs too much to train a replacement, thats if you can get one.

[PrentonPimp]

Really? It's impossible to get a job on the rails in the UK..

[guitarshredder18]

pfft...pussy's...bet I could lift that 130 ton loco back onto the tracks with my bare hands

[jlebesis]

LOL, nah man, you should really wear gloves though... :)