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  • Umm, did the other guy just ask if they wanted to "take it outside?" Wow, and I thought I had trouble debating politics.

  • CBO has just come out saying the present HC crap will NOT decrease the deficits as posited

    Hollen just kept on with his weasel-speak & lies....yes, lies! A few key punches proves it

    Yep, Obama & 51 Senators will give proper assurances; of course, later they'll weasel out

    Either way, the Supremes should knock any such bill(s) passed re the Constitution..below The Constitution & the people will be the losers!

  • I'd sure like to see some of those 'supposed' Emails from constituents, et al, that say ins premiums are increasing so hughly.

    Attempted to run down the company that Obama spoke of having 30+% increases & couldn't come up with the same conclusion HE has spoken of on so many recent occasions

  • No where in the US Constitution does it say that Congress can "deem" a bill to have passed.

    Pelosi, et al, aren't just making up policy as they go, but also procedure -- possibly an unconstitutional procedure, at that

  • The real costs are: (1) 10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits.

    (2) Cut $460 billion from Medicare.

    (3) Rob $52 billion from SS.

    (4) Rob $72 billion from long-term disability.

    (5) Double count the above as bill cost offsets.

    (6) Transfer $371 billion into another bill called Doc Fix.

    Thus, the true cost is $2.3 trillion for first 10 years, not the democrats advertised $950 billion. This means ballooning the deficit.

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  • Read; the U.S Constitution, Article I, Section VII, Clause II ~ One of the most exacting clauses in the Constitution!

    Neither bill has been laid on Obama's desk for his signature; called, the Presentation Provision of the Constitution & makes it illegal to amend bills by reconciliation such as the HC bill & the Pelosi\Slaughter attempt to by pass the Constitution watch #!v=5 XPF s76w Ge0

    Pelosi will deem the bill to have passed with the Slaughter/Pelosi rule & ??

  • 'We have to pass the HC bill before you can see it!' ~Pelosi, Mar 10, 10

    Perhaps this is why Pelosi, et al, won't permit a review of the HC bill they're now trying to jam through

    watch # !v = Hc Ba SP 31 B e8

    Yes, there of course have been 'some' changes since but not many

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