In my opinion, these would not be a 20-footer, it's more like 19 because a 20 would not give a person a chance to breath at all. Have you seen 888 in DDRU3? There are hardly any breaks. Konami would do something much worse than this. Since most DDR songs are about 1:30-1:50 minutes long, they would make sure that time would have a living hell filled with a bunch arrows.
well actually they made the 1 - 20 foot ratings to go more exact, like max 300 being an easy 10, but relinquish being one of the hardest, so anything from 11 - 20 would be considered an old 10
ddr still makes impossible retarded fast crossovers which i hate
The 20 point scale is multiplied by 1.5, and anything at 14-20 is an old 10. Max 300 is a 15 in DDR X. There are re-ratings such as Sakura and Bag(?) being made 13s (old tough 9)
A mixture of good old stream at ridiculous speed (Relinquish?), throw in some gunfire jumps (eternal love mix?), plentiful speed changes (Fascination MaxX?), introduce the first notes smaller than 1/32, and top it off with stops like Metallica (Chaos?)...
And then they make a remix that forces you to endure the entire song to the end, then BACKWARD TO THE BEGINNING XDXDXD
this song makes too much sense for konami. you need to throw in broken streams and about 3/4 of the song needs to be side stepping and crossovers.....makes it 32nd crossovers just for the fun of it. and throw hands into the stream too. then once u cant possibly make the chart any more stupid and unplayable, THATS WHEN konami will be like..hey lets put that in our game! and on top of that, it will be a boss rush song and you wont be able to miss more than 2 notes on it before failing.
DDR boss songs are supposed to be a mental AND physical challenge, not just bullshit 16th streams.
this simfile isn't good by any means, considering how straightforward and predictable it is. i'd rather see a creative eight or nine footer than a hundred garbage files like this thing.
all of you that are complaining or making shitty comments about them including BPM changes or stops in boss song are stupid. just because you can't take the time to learn a song doesn't mean it sucks.
BPM changes can be good if not overused. SN boss songs like Faxx, FELM and Pluto Relinquish pretty much abuse them. There are other ways of making a chart hard, not just BPM changes and stops. Look at DDR Extreme boss songs for example and see what makes them hard, but also decent at the same time.
Are you crazy? The only way to make this look like a Konami 20-foot would be to add at least 15 sudden random stops and throw in frivolous crossovers all over.
This isn't even close to what Konami will make a 20 look like, this chart actually makes sense and goes with the music, besides, theres already a 14 chart for it in ITG that looks like this (don't know if its known nation wide, but it's on the machine in my arcade)
UNLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
You turn those streams into epic cross over streams like HDVO, and throw in jumps that make you twist and turn, and throw em mid stream too.
Man, that Konami! They sure would make something like this! They should just stop making DDR. In fact, they should stop making Bemani. I mean, those black Anothers in Troopers CS are just completely retarded and unpassable. Why would they put all of those notes in Flowers of all things? So Konami! Someone should sue them for stealing ITG and shoot all the higher-ups for making boss charts with BPM changes that people actually have to learn to play so they aren't AAAing them on sightreads.
I don't really think it's that bad. The 16th run isn't uncalled for at all and actually looks easy compared to PRO's ending. I'd call this a 19 at best. (I also think 888 oni would be a 19). It can still get much harder than this. I was expecting a crossover run or something.
Your cynism is rather amusing! :D "That's how stupid I see it getting." ROFL! What would've been funnier is you saying during the freeze jumps: "Oh I've run out of things to come up with and will make you hop like a bunny."
DancingNinja, you can't "come up" with steps when there's nothing else to step to. Those jumps there are really the only option. Anything else there wouldn't fit the song.
True, though I thought that this chart was supposed to be "stupid", hence I was just going along with this guy's cynism. :P In actual fact I love this chart and it looks like a lot of fun. Streams are well placed and the jumps seem to fit it well. Shame I don't have the stamina to do this kinda chart on pad though. :(
When I picture what I'd hope 20's in DDR would look like, I picture semi-stupid ITG-related things like Chromatic Blitz or much harder versions of Euphoria or Determinator. When I picture what they WILL look like, it's more like Chaos meets FELMO.
Only if Konami made a chart as beautiful as this than it would be ok. Haha you are really sarcastic huh? This file was very good if konami could make step charts as well people would play DDR again.
Whats wrong with this simfile? i would LOVE to play this. simfile link plz? and if konami was smart enough to make a chart like this i would start playing DDR again
I think we all know a 20 Footer will just look like FELM but with way to many shock arrows. Thats why they added then anyway. just to make it even harder to read.
I guess they decided they want to make hard to read fast songs since everyone can pass the slow songs like bag.
You Know what, Raikou... I Believe it! I fucking Believe it!!! Lol.
Konami WILL do some shit like this to make our lives a living hell
MaXPARANOiA 2 years ago
Why the hell do you have an announcer on in Stepmania? Get a better note skin too. Scrub.
Amylacetate 2 years ago
Hey, at least it wasn't X's announcer.
taro4012 2 years ago
In my opinion, these would not be a 20-footer, it's more like 19 because a 20 would not give a person a chance to breath at all. Have you seen 888 in DDRU3? There are hardly any breaks. Konami would do something much worse than this. Since most DDR songs are about 1:30-1:50 minutes long, they would make sure that time would have a living hell filled with a bunch arrows.
amysbeloved 2 years ago
888 Oni is almost as hard as Pluto Relinquish Oni, but I still think Dead End Groove Radar Special is the dumbest chart ever made by Konami.
taro4012 2 years ago
well actually they made the 1 - 20 foot ratings to go more exact, like max 300 being an easy 10, but relinquish being one of the hardest, so anything from 11 - 20 would be considered an old 10
ddr still makes impossible retarded fast crossovers which i hate
this stepchart is more itg than ddr
ddrjay122494 2 years ago
I think you muddled your ratings a bit.
The 20 point scale is multiplied by 1.5, and anything at 14-20 is an old 10. Max 300 is a 15 in DDR X. There are re-ratings such as Sakura and Bag(?) being made 13s (old tough 9)
taro4012 2 years ago
@ddrjay122494
no... any 10 from extreme, Supernova, etc. is at least a 15.
Butterfly (easy song) is an 11 in challenge!!
FutileExistence 1 year ago
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skydragon8525 2 years ago
This chart just says... ITG, imo.
As said, this is too "sane" and needs crossovers/spins/jackhammers/ things that are just weird/different. : P
Papersak 2 years ago
this is exactly what i was thinking
this song is possible, and ddr wouldnt put 16ths, they would probably double the BPM and make it 8th notes instead
ddrjay122494 2 years ago
Yeah, it'd be 400 BPM.
I also don't think the chart would be free of cross/jack/spin. Konami has a habit of just randomly placing steps.
taro4012 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA this is nothing!!! compared to the one written for ITG i mean :P
XytonITG 3 years ago
That is easily padible lolol
ohms99 3 years ago
XD EAS
A mixture of good old stream at ridiculous speed (Relinquish?), throw in some gunfire jumps (eternal love mix?), plentiful speed changes (Fascination MaxX?), introduce the first notes smaller than 1/32, and top it off with stops like Metallica (Chaos?)...
And then they make a remix that forces you to endure the entire song to the end, then BACKWARD TO THE BEGINNING XDXDXD
SenseiSNES 3 years ago
I highly doubt that they would make something that dumb because that just looked like another summer (speedy mix) but sped up.
TypeCHAOS 3 years ago
*shrug* I don´t really think they are gonna go THAT FAR...
l3o2828 3 years ago
Nice chart. Konami wouldn't do that though. That's a bit over the top.
Flashing 20.
argancyamat 3 years ago
this song makes too much sense for konami. you need to throw in broken streams and about 3/4 of the song needs to be side stepping and crossovers.....makes it 32nd crossovers just for the fun of it. and throw hands into the stream too. then once u cant possibly make the chart any more stupid and unplayable, THATS WHEN konami will be like..hey lets put that in our game! and on top of that, it will be a boss rush song and you wont be able to miss more than 2 notes on it before failing.
lvl40inslayer 3 years ago
DDR boss songs are supposed to be a mental AND physical challenge, not just bullshit 16th streams.
this simfile isn't good by any means, considering how straightforward and predictable it is. i'd rather see a creative eight or nine footer than a hundred garbage files like this thing.
all of you that are complaining or making shitty comments about them including BPM changes or stops in boss song are stupid. just because you can't take the time to learn a song doesn't mean it sucks.
atomikaXIII 3 years ago
BPM changes can be good if not overused. SN boss songs like Faxx, FELM and Pluto Relinquish pretty much abuse them. There are other ways of making a chart hard, not just BPM changes and stops. Look at DDR Extreme boss songs for example and see what makes them hard, but also decent at the same time.
DancingNinja2010 3 years ago 2
Are you crazy? The only way to make this look like a Konami 20-foot would be to add at least 15 sudden random stops and throw in frivolous crossovers all over.
giuocob 3 years ago 2
This isn't even close to what Konami will make a 20 look like, this chart actually makes sense and goes with the music, besides, theres already a 14 chart for it in ITG that looks like this (don't know if its known nation wide, but it's on the machine in my arcade)
UNLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
You turn those streams into epic cross over streams like HDVO, and throw in jumps that make you twist and turn, and throw em mid stream too.
ArvinGhassemi 3 years ago
Man, that Konami! They sure would make something like this! They should just stop making DDR. In fact, they should stop making Bemani. I mean, those black Anothers in Troopers CS are just completely retarded and unpassable. Why would they put all of those notes in Flowers of all things? So Konami! Someone should sue them for stealing ITG and shoot all the higher-ups for making boss charts with BPM changes that people actually have to learn to play so they aren't AAAing them on sightreads.
TrickMasterMint 3 years ago
I don't really think it's that bad. The 16th run isn't uncalled for at all and actually looks easy compared to PRO's ending. I'd call this a 19 at best. (I also think 888 oni would be a 19). It can still get much harder than this. I was expecting a crossover run or something.
TeamRAR 3 years ago
The 200 bpm run ends up being just like the Relinquish stream.
Nipponophiliac 3 years ago
...Holy crap...I saw it more like 12th beats, not 16th.
Nipponophiliac 3 years ago
thats kinda how the iidx chart was really stupid and can you send me this chart?
kakusei4000 3 years ago
thats like a hard 14.
Mooglel 3 years ago
Was this a one hand or two hand play?
hawckstrike13 3 years ago
Index.
RaikouRider 3 years ago
DDR X is the first version for the steps to go over 10
KM13Videos 3 years ago
Your cynism is rather amusing! :D "That's how stupid I see it getting." ROFL! What would've been funnier is you saying during the freeze jumps: "Oh I've run out of things to come up with and will make you hop like a bunny."
DancingNinja2010 3 years ago
DancingNinja, you can't "come up" with steps when there's nothing else to step to. Those jumps there are really the only option. Anything else there wouldn't fit the song.
TeamRAR 3 years ago
True, though I thought that this chart was supposed to be "stupid", hence I was just going along with this guy's cynism. :P In actual fact I love this chart and it looks like a lot of fun. Streams are well placed and the jumps seem to fit it well. Shame I don't have the stamina to do this kinda chart on pad though. :(
DancingNinja2010 3 years ago
Can you send me this? hahaha
ssandman007 3 years ago
Horrible video, plz gfy Raikou
Jukeboksi 3 years ago
thats actually a really awesome simfile, would you mind sharing it?
Hajje92 3 years ago 2
FMAXX with shock arrows
thenotsoswede 3 years ago
When I picture what I'd hope 20's in DDR would look like, I picture semi-stupid ITG-related things like Chromatic Blitz or much harder versions of Euphoria or Determinator. When I picture what they WILL look like, it's more like Chaos meets FELMO.
qwAirGear 3 years ago
Where do you get this simfile?
GamingNinja2 3 years ago
Made it in less than an hour.
RaikouRider 3 years ago
Only if Konami made a chart as beautiful as this than it would be ok. Haha you are really sarcastic huh? This file was very good if konami could make step charts as well people would play DDR again.
mariocampos0 3 years ago
lol it really isnt that bad ( the song you're playing ) just a bit too much jumps x.x
robry124 3 years ago
And that 20-second run of 200bpm 16ths?
RaikouRider 3 years ago
YEAH, DRAGONFORCE! ULTIMATE STREAM.
IkariTheWraith 3 years ago
@RaikouRider
DDR X puts the difficulty higher than it really is... for example, the fascinations and the plutos are rated as an 18.
FutileExistence 1 year ago
Whats wrong with this simfile? i would LOVE to play this. simfile link plz? and if konami was smart enough to make a chart like this i would start playing DDR again
KevinGannets 3 years ago
On pad?
RaikouRider 3 years ago
umm.... how else to you play DDR? i want the simfile to play on itg plz
KevinGannets 3 years ago
There's no way Konami would make a 20 that sane.
silver007sm 3 years ago
I think we all know a 20 Footer will just look like FELM but with way to many shock arrows. Thats why they added then anyway. just to make it even harder to read.
I guess they decided they want to make hard to read fast songs since everyone can pass the slow songs like bag.
kekkan 3 years ago
Add some shock arrows in there and you've got your 20.
seraph086770 3 years ago
Ya Your right. There was no stops or any thing. I'm sure the 20 footer will throw speed and hard to read slow arrows at you.
That chart looks fun, so we know it would not be on their game.
I just hope the real 20 footer has a good beat.
kekkan 3 years ago
Yeah, it'd probably speed up to 800 and throw stops at you on each note.
Gigacorn 3 years ago
Wow. Now I actually understand what you were talking about.
And that is a good chart. Looks really fun. I should get stepmania again for this computer...
vampirereconsint 3 years ago
Not bad for only an hour's work huh?
RaikouRider 3 years ago
Nope. Pretty good. ^^
vampirereconsint 3 years ago
this is actually a good chart man...
DDRFaQ 3 years ago
For pad? Not really.
RaikouRider 3 years ago
this is ITG no DDR X poor
paranomario 3 years ago
it sounds like you're playing a snare drum with the speed you're tapping the keys. I'm impressed.
RoseHunter25 3 years ago
can you send me this simfile please
zootddrnl 3 years ago
I liked that chart!
AvoidtheAffairs 3 years ago