I know how to go and walk Until the setting of the sun In the desert, flat and empty, where nothing is given My head is alert, awake I have climbed up and climbed down The mountains where I was born I know in which caves the water is hidden These worries are my friends I'm always on familiar terms with them and that Gives birth to the stories of my life You who are organised, assembled, walking together Hand in hand, you're living A path which is empty of meaning In truth, you're all alone
Touareg is tribe in south Algeri, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso. Libya this is their berber langauge is not arabic may have some arabic to is like any other berber language in Algeria or Morocco that's why they name Volkswagen car after this tribe
I lived in Niger from 1975 - 1977 where i became very close with a family outside of Illela. This music gives me chills and brings me close to tears. Hauntingly beautiful. Thank you.
I'm loving the acoustic git with the Fender pick-ups taped on with masking tape. Thems some serious musicians! You can see it starting about the 5 minute mark.
Oh my God the second song I was looking for it since Last November, cause I don't know the names of the singers or the group... I heard to this song when I was in the Libyan desert for an awesome trip... I loved it... we were dancing for those song day and night... thank you for posting it,,, will you please tell me what's the title of this song?
Oh my God the second song I was looking for it since Last November, cause I don't know the names of the singers or the group... I heard to this song when I was in the Libyan desert for an awesome trip... I loved it... we were dancing for those song day and night... thank you for posting it,,, will you please tell me what's the title of this song?
f I lived in Niger from 1975 - 1977 where i became very close with a family outside of Illela. This music gives me chills and brings me close to tears. Hauntingly beautiful. Speaks to something deep within the heart, a longing for the desert.
"Tinariwen" is the plural of "Ténéré" and the word "Ténéré" means desert but not only desert,also "country" or "countryside" the group has being together since 1979 and were living in Tamanrasset in the south of algeria.then after a complex sequence of events they came back to mali to fight a rebellion in 1990.
Anyway, I love Etran Finatawa, Tuareg/Berber/Amazigh, Fulani, Tamashek, all kinds of music... I love African music and music unites people, transcending barriers, such as social stigmas and even certain negative connotations words might carry! :)
@ariagia correct, the correct word to be used would be Ethnic Group for what Americans call "tribes". That said, this is Tinariwen from Mali :). Also, Etran Finatawa from Niger is my favorite group probably because they mix Fulani and Tamasheq together.
@yehyeh22 : "I think I can safely assume...you are not African and thus are not intimately familiar with the vastness of tribes and the stark difference between ethnic group and tribe. " >> ME: Obviously, U R NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE USAGE OF WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND THE STARK DIFFERENCES IN CONNOTATIONS AND CONTEXT. "Tribe" has a negative connotation, i.e., "primative" . **(R. B. Moore, "Racism in the English Language," in The Production of Reality, ed. J. O'Brien, 2005)**.
@yehyeh22: SO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING FIRST AND FOREMOST, this is WHY I PREFER to use the WORD ETHNIC GROUP when referring to AFRICANS, as this word is neutral. "Tribe" has negative contexts, AND I'D RATHER NOT REFER TO MY OWN PEOPLE, AFRICANS, OR ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING as "tribe", when I can use a word such as "ethnic group" that has more positive connotations. I'm sticking with "ethnic group", and I'm sure other educated AFRICANS (and people furthermore) will, too.
@ariagia lol Too funny. You call me an "ignorant foreigner" - an African - and you at the same time claim Africans to be your people. Hilarious. You don't understand the difference of ethnicity and tribe in >Africa<, I don't care at all about the connotations of the words, only the meaning. Please travel to Africa and get to know the natives. Maybe you will see the difference for yourself.
there are many tribes twaregs but the real twareg are berbers and not foulani and songhai.They speak berber (amazigh).The real twareg (first class) are not dark like foulan or songhai i they are dark a little.The others are melting poat between reals twaregs and slaves.
As a Westerner who has close Tuareg friends, I find this fascinating. The Tuareg culture interestingly accords a lot of power to women, which I never would have known before meeting my friends. I just love the ululating in Tuareg music , too! They are truly beautiful people, inside as well as out.
I forget where I read this, but I know it was probably from National Geographic.
Whenever strangers come into a Tuareg's home, the man has to cover up his face. Unlike how it would be for other cultures, the women would have to do that, but as a woman, I love their culture because the women seem to have more power.
Yes, you're absolutely right. I have a close Touareg friend who's told me all about women's power with Touareg culture. In fact, she married a Bantu Muslim, so she essentially surrendered a lot of her power by doing that. I think she regrets having married outside of the tribe !
A joke? Well, I have a female Touareg friend from Mali/Niger who married an ethnic Hausa. They are both Muslim. He told me that he was 'morphologically' Bantu, culturally Hausa. Perhaps you can explain your version.
Hausa is not Bantu, Hausa is Afro-Asiatic just like Tuareg. Do you know what Bantu is? Bantu Muslims hardly exist. Bantu is a language group. Hausa do not belong in the Bantu ethnic group. Hausa culture is very similar to all Sahelian cultures.
Yes, I know it's very complex-separating the concept of 'ethnicity' from that of 'race'. My brother-in-law is an African anthropologist and knows far more than I do. You're right, Hausa is termed an ethnic group, as is Bantu, and they are distinct. I was trying to point out the difference between 'black Africans' and 'Saharan Africans'- those are the words of my Touareg friend, not me. She looks very much like a Tunisian or Algerian, while her Hausa husband looks like an 'African-American'.
That's completely not true, Hausa themselves are considered Saharan African. You will find light and dark skinned Hausa as you will find light and Dark-skinned Tuareg. Look up Koudede, he's darker than most Hausa and he's a Tuareg. In tribe in the Sahel is considered Saharan African. Meaning Songhai, Djerma, Hausa, Tuareg, Fula, Beri Beri, etc.
Thanks, I will look him up. A question: in what 'category' would you place Ali Farka Toure? He's much darker than most Saharans, no? I don't like 'over-labeling', and it's a long story, but my Touareg friend is a woman for whom I interpreted during her pregnancy and childbirth in the US. She looks very 'Moroccan'. Her husband, a Hausa, is considered 'black', while she's not. I know this is silly, but there was actually confusion as to how to 'categorize' her son's race when he was born...
Ali Farka Touré himself is a Saharan African, his language Songhai or Sonrai is a Nilo-Saharan language. People classify people based on language not based on their skin tone in Africa. Your friend. In Africa we don't really classify based on skin color because you can find someone who is very light almost a white person within the Fulani, mandé, Touareg, Hausa Tribes, but you can also find very dark people in those tribal/ethnic groups. So we classify people based on their language.
By the way, thanks for all the info, VraiDiouf. Sounds like a far more reasonable 'classification' system. I suppose you mean 'native language', as many speak French, and others?The appearance factor means nothing to me, but you'd be surprised how many odd situations i've seen clients in when having to indicate their ethnicity on medical forms here in the US. I'm serious...some were just left as question marks, and they were the lighter-skinned Saharans in general...
French is the Colonized language Mere, not our native tongue. Native Tongue is the group we belong to. I speak French because I'm from a French speaking country, but my native tongue is Fulfulde or Fulfude (it is also known as Pular).
Right, VraiDiouf. Many Aricans I know speak six or seven languages, and they switch effortlessly from one to another. It's amazing to hear, especially from a liguist like myself. That's why I'm still a bit confused as to how people are classified by languages, no 'ethnicity', even though it seems like a much less potentially racist way to categorize. Hope that makes sense !
Our ethnicity is our tribal group, if we use the Wests definition of ethnicity I'm considered black, if we used the West African definition of Ethnicity I'm considered Fulani. That is what I'm saying, people's ethnicity is based on what tribal group they belong to or what their mother tongue is. We don't call them tribes in Africa btw, (Songhai, Mandé, Fulbe, Tamashek, etc.) we call them ethnic group or in French groupe d'ethnique.
@VraiDiouf Only native people around the world, i.e., Native Americans, Africans, Asians, Latins are called tribes, but you never hear about European ethnic groups being called tribes when they maintain their customs/traditions.
Actually, there are both tribes and ethnic groups in Africa. Africa is recognized as the most diverse continent in the world by scientists, our people, cultures, languages, and many other things are very diverse. For example, I'm part of the Somali ethnic group and within that ethnic group are many, many tribes. So ethnic group and tribes are not the same thing in Africa, they both exist and are a result of a long history of human habitation in Africa, longer than Europe's or Asia's.
@yehyeh22 YOU'RE TELLING ME SOMETHING I ALREADY KNOW. I understand what you are saying. I said EUROPEANS are HARDLY EVER referred to as tribes, but Africans and other native people ARE USUALLY referred to as "tribes". SO tribe in this context denotes a negative connotation, usually referring to the people as less civilized or SLAVES. This is why I chose to say ETHNIC GROUP(s) instead of "tribe(s)".
@yehyeh22 According to Merriam Webster's dictionary, an ethnic group is "of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, TRIBAL, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background". so yes, i will continue to use the term ETHNIC GROUPS, AS THE WORD is inclusive of TRIBES.
@ariagia I disagree. The word "tribe" does not have any connotation. Ethnic group is not an accurate word to describe the Hawiye tribe, for example. The definition of tribe: A unit of sociopolitical organization consisting of a number of families, clans, or other groups who share a common ancestry and culture and among whom leadership is typically neither formalized nor permanent.
Each tribe differs in this and each tribe has many sub-tribes. An ethnic group includes several levels of tribes.
@yehyeh22 FURTHERMORE ALL WORDS HAVE CONNOTATIONS, especially in regards to the context they are used in. Yes, the word "tribe", in this aspect does have a connotation. Calling all other people around the world "tribes" and Europeans primarily "ethnic groups" clearly denotes something. Each tribe has sub-tribes... each tribe has various categories ... each ethnic group have various categories.
@ariagia I think I can safely assume that you are not African and thus are not intimately familiar with the vastness of tribes and the stark difference between ethnic group and tribe. In my own African language, there are different words to describe the different levels of tribes. You are free to call it however you want, it makes no difference to me. But I believe I know quite enough about tribes and ethnic groups and don't need a foreigner to tell me otherwise, no offense.
@yehyeh22 oh please, you're an ignorant foreigner. back to what i was saying, EUROPEAN people are RARELY called TRIBES when they maintain their traditions, but everyone else around the world are referred to as "tribes", *more often* than ethnic groups. I don't care about these differences in the words "tribe" and "ethnic group" you're so keen on talking about. The point is when everyone else gets denoted to "tribe" more often than "ethnic group", it is a HUGE issue. Europeans rarely = "tribes".
@yehyeh22 BEING AFRICAN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE USAGE OF THE WORD TRIBE YOU ARE SO SILLY AND THAT WAS AN IGNORANT THING TO SAY, "I think I can safely assume that you are not African and thus are not intimately familiar with the vastness of tribes and the stark difference between ethnic group and tribe. " I can absolutely say without a doubt, that YOU ARE NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE USAGE OF WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND THE STARK DIFFERENCES IN CONNOTATIONS AND CONTEXT.
@VraiDiouf exactly, even in French, they are called ethnic groups... smh. and you can still say that ethnicity is *determined* by what *social group* they belong to, therefore eliminating the use of the word tribe and any negative connotations or stigmas that come with the word, as tribes carry certain social stigmas sometimes, which are negative... anyway, you get my point.
VraiDiouf, I'm sending you a video to watch if you don't mind. It's in French, which I assume you speak and understand. It will show you why I'm unsure about the exact nature of Touareg 'genetic ethnicity'. Not that it should matter, and it doesn't to me, but it shows what a wide spectrum of physical characteristics there is within the Touareg tribe.
Mere, there are wide spectrums of physical characteristics in almost every African tribe in West Africa. This does not only apply to the Touareg, but also the Fulani, Hausa, Mandé, Songhai, Igbo etc. Tribes in the Sahel are not only under 1 category of physical characteristics. There are many Tuaregs that look like and would pass for Black American, there are others who would not. As we Africans know, Africa was once an all black continent, but black people still came in many skin tones.
To say one looks Tunisian or Algerian means nothing. One can look like a Bosnian or Croatian or like a Hausa or African American to be frank and be native to Algeria. True Tuareg are dark skinned people ancestral to many African Americans according to DNA as are the Hausa Fulani and Yoruba - including Morgan Freeman and a female founders of the slave reparations movement here in America. Bantu speakers are usually found further south as in Southern Africa -and they too can look different.
KushaDwipa-It seems that in my quest for the best way to attain cultural sensitivity among the population I work with (Africans who claim to be Bantus, Hausas, Touaregs,Bantus from the DRC, etc., who all speak French), I unintentionally irritate people watching this video. Clients tell me very different things about their own cultures as well as others'. You can probably imagine I've pretty much heard it all. I'm just seeking objective info to understand them better. I'm no racist.
Hi Mere - actually I didn't find ur comments racist but a little surprising given the diverse appearance of populations of Algeria and the Sahara, which i'm sure u have become familiar with having lived among such people as the Tuareg and Hausa .
Kusha, I appreciate your thoughts. I chose to work with Africans out of a fascination with Francophone Africa and its people, but you must understand that it gets confusing for a boring 'Caucasian' woman like me to keep track of subtle distinctions,sometimes! By the way, a relative of mine is a Harvard-trained anthropologist who shuns the concept of 'race' completely, basing his argument on DNA evidence. Still, cultural pride and identity are, and should be, precious to many.
@mars3400 - I can understand your supposing that about the Tuareg because people are not aware of the Tuareg coming to America. But, people related to Hausa are well known to have come to America. Everyone between the India and Ireland in the North and southAfrica and Philipines were slaves early in America. I do not have to research this it is all over the internet. Many of these Arabicized people were brought by the Portuguese before the English came.
@jimilli09 Yes - Jamili as I have said there is a strong link to the Tuareg found in some African Americans. Believe it or not. There is already done on the connection between the Lumbee Indians and the Tuareg. Also it is well known that the Tuareg, Trarza and Kunta Moors made up a significant number of the Portuguese slaves brought to the Americas from Senegambia the Trarza and Brakna Emirates. These people were fighting amongst themselves and were often sold into slaver as prisoners of war.
@KushaDwipa _ i meant to say there has already been a genetic study done on the Tuareg origin of the Lumbee that explains certain traditions among Americans that they and related people were actually part Portuguese "Canaanites" and Carthaginians. According to early newspaper articles of the 1800s they came from the Moors of the peedee Rivier in South Carolina.
@jimilli09 - You are correct the word Moor like Negro was applied to the same people by the Portuguese in America whether from Bantu, Tuareg, Trarza and Brakna in Senegambia. Some of my people are also from South Carolina by the way jimilli. I agree that Fulani slaves and Tuareg were reclassified as black indians, Early Indians did not hate black Indians don't confuse modern white Cherokee with early ones who are described as mainly very tall, dark copper brown well proportioned people .
@KushaDwipa - you will have to point me though to the dna study of the Navajo though. I can understand the Baluchi one since they are supposed to have originated from the same area. But the Navajo connection sounds a little strange to me since they are not dark-skinned like most early other Indians out West, and of the Indians look least like the Tuareg. Then again, with dna these days I guess anything is possible.
@jimilli09 - I'm not sure why it would be unclear. The coming of Africans from Senegambia where many Tuareg were taken is well documented. The Tuareg were often fighting against the Kunta, Fulani and other groups from the Brakna and Traraza Emirates. They often ended up prisoners of war and the Portuguese and other people brought them to the Americas. There are books on the subject.
@jimilli09 - You would not believe i have even had Hausa people email me and tell me no Hausa people came to America as slaves. LOL. It is ridiculous what people around the world have been taught by watching too much of Kunta Kinte on television. Even the real Kunta was supposed to have been from Mauritania.
I've known Africans who claim they are 'Bantu' as well as 'Muslim'-and they explained to me that Bantu is a morphological term. I've also known Bantus who are Christian. It's a lot of semantic hair-splitting. There are many different morphologies even within the Touareg tribe, as you can see by watching videos of them here...esp. in Niger.
As long as I have been into studying cultural groups, I have never heard of Bantu/Hausa, only a short time ago after my independant Asia studies I came across Uyghur people.
Semantic? So, I quess they were 'inspired' by a lot of Abrahamic religons in their culture?
Sorry Uffir, you must be either ignorant or someone who is trying to deny our arabic values. Algerian music is 80% arabic, from hawzi, chaaabi, andaloussi, ksantini ,RAI etc etc...the list is long. So Do your home work properly and appreciate WHAT the arabs are sharing with you.
A question, where do the biggest artists of these styles of music come from? for chaabi hawzi ... azefoune for andaloussi and ksantini you will find them (sefarad) ie jews refugees from spain
if this style can be routed to their origins in africa, then you can say this sounds very bluesy and it influenced the blues we listen to today via the african from the very unfortunate slave trade
I Don't Think That Touareg Music Has Something To Do With Arabic's...Actuelly They Are Berbers Or Amazigh, People From North Africa Aren't Arabs...And Regarding The Music It's Mixture Of Traditional Music, Blues and Jazz Styles...By The Way, In Touareg Culture Only Women Can Play Music And Sing (Not Men) and Men Do The Shield Dance V40XzankIFU&feature=related
ok, lol, you really need to brush up on your geography. if you look at a map of north africa the majority of the countries are arabic i.e egypt, tunisia, algeria, morroco, lybia, ertirea, etc they all have in both influeced eatch other in terms of arabic and african music, and we are talking a good 1,000 years here.
:) Sorry But I Think That Geography Doesn't Tell Very Well About Folks... I'm From Algeria And I Can Tell You That Many Of As Have Nothing In Common With Arabs And Their Culture (Except Islam) And As I Said Before Our Music Has Berber And African Roots
The same happened to me. I got the cd, after I saw then in a video about a festival in the sahara, somewhere where robert plant was at. And that's it, I fall in love with their music. It remains me back home.
im from mauritania , so i got tuareg blood in my veins
iizyii 1 week ago
braukšu ciemos! Gaidiet :)
klibinskis 3 weeks ago
incredible music that needs someone who feels it not just listening.
bhangrasound 2 months ago
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check my touareg songs on my youtube video.
82Storyteller 2 months ago
5 Misratan Rats!
nachillyo 2 months ago
5 dislikes like theyare very deaf very IGNORANCE to bad for them i think is a wonderfull music this is new to me and i like it thank you
fwildflower0426662 2 months ago
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but also in truth you are all one.
ladybird1156 3 months ago
Hayamoto120 4 months ago 3
THE TRAVELLER IN THE DESERT
I am a traveller in the lone desert
It's nothing special
I can stand the wind
I can stand the thirst
And the sun
Hayamoto120 4 months ago 2
@Deptstate799 NO NO NO this music exist before rocking roll !!this music is the forerunner of blues and rock and roll !!!!
freeyourselfpower 6 months ago
@Deptstate799 have you heard of emmuel jal ?
blueiguy1 6 months ago
Tinariuen rules - I love them. thank you for sharing this. (would you also have "anatant tila" by any chance? I love that song 'specially').
wellardbr 6 months ago in playlist MUSIC 4
Touareg is tribe in south Algeri, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso. Libya this is their berber langauge is not arabic may have some arabic to is like any other berber language in Algeria or Morocco that's why they name Volkswagen car after this tribe
seeker119 7 months ago
@Deptstate799 Actually rap is the most popular among all of Africa although many string instruments are similar to that of North and West Africa.
blueiguy1 7 months ago
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great! who are the singers and witch langeunge is that? Arbic?
maayan61614 7 months ago
great! who are the singers and witch langeunge is that? Arbic?
maayan61614 7 months ago
can we get the translated lyrics?
Giovannisenzaterra 8 months ago
iyi sölemişsiniz arap kardeşler. sizi de kurtarıcaz türk birliğini kurunca merak etmeyin. bu beyazların eline bırakmıcaz.
bakegosan86 8 months ago
beautyfull music! greeting from Romania
cretucorneliuradu 9 months ago
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Nak Amassakul N tenere
Wer hi Ggrraw taKunt
Sshmara i adutan-net
Sshmara i Fad
d Tafuk
Zzayagh ad gglegh
Ar-hi- thedu tafuk
Dagh Tenere ta mallat
'Sagrawat eghaf takunt
thiziri34 9 months ago
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Nak Amassakul N tenere
Wer hi Ggrraw taKunt
Sshmara i adutan-net
Sshmara i Fad
d Tafuk
Zzayagh ad gglegh
Ar-hi- thedu tafuk
Dagh Tenere ta mallat
'Sagrawat eghaf takunt
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Répondre à cette vidéo... Nak Amassakul N tenere
Wer hi Ggrraw taKunt
Sshmara i adutan-net
Sshmara i Fad
d Tafuk
Zzayagh ad gglegh
Ar-hi- thedu tafuk
Dagh Tenere ta mallat
'Sagrawat eghaf takunt
thiziri34 9 months ago
E HOME TAL TRISTESA que dis mal deste nome ou seja ícon de muita gente e e um tapado invejoso
TheFifapro123 10 months ago
My ethnicity is human!
feggladite 11 months ago 3
heart medicine...this music is the BEST
siebzigfinger 1 year ago
@siebzigfinger you can add soul cleansing for the area they come from the tenere desert is amazing
IMOUHAG 1 year ago
Different, beautiful....great rythms.
aniltmohinani 1 year ago 2
Beautiful Jayden
astbantt 1 year ago
cool vive les amazighes
soulaymen11 1 year ago
I lived in Niger from 1975 - 1977 where i became very close with a family outside of Illela. This music gives me chills and brings me close to tears. Hauntingly beautiful. Thank you.
chapare64 1 year ago
@chapare64 yes, the music is great.
VraiDiouf 1 year ago
me thinks the 3 dislikes are from Deaf People.
funkyfaz55 1 year ago 11
Exellent music!!!
THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
DIEZCOLORADO 1 year ago
Great Respect - from Ireland
ofschorchedpumpkins 1 year ago
I'm loving the acoustic git with the Fender pick-ups taped on with masking tape. Thems some serious musicians! You can see it starting about the 5 minute mark.
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Oh my God the second song I was looking for it since Last November, cause I don't know the names of the singers or the group... I heard to this song when I was in the Libyan desert for an awesome trip... I loved it... we were dancing for those song day and night... thank you for posting it,,, will you please tell me what's the title of this song?
vivoviva 1 year ago
Oh my God the second song I was looking for it since Last November, cause I don't know the names of the singers or the group... I heard to this song when I was in the Libyan desert for an awesome trip... I loved it... we were dancing for those song day and night... thank you for posting it,,, will you please tell me what's the title of this song?
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vivoviva 1 year ago
What language is this?
zebcode 1 year ago
@zebcode Tamasheq
VraiDiouf 1 year ago
f I lived in Niger from 1975 - 1977 where i became very close with a family outside of Illela. This music gives me chills and brings me close to tears. Hauntingly beautiful. Speaks to something deep within the heart, a longing for the desert.
chapare64 1 year ago
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lara12ify 1 year ago
I love the music wonderful
ahmosm2 1 year ago
beautiful music... I saw this song at the world cup 2010 perfomance, great!!
nandoberruy 1 year ago
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i love this group more
"Tinariwen" is the plural of "Ténéré" and the word "Ténéré" means desert but not only desert,also "country" or "countryside" the group has being together since 1979 and were living in Tamanrasset in the south of algeria.then after a complex sequence of events they came back to mali to fight a rebellion in 1990.
lara12ify 1 year ago 19
I Love!!!
rosanajayme 1 year ago
Anyway, I love Etran Finatawa, Tuareg/Berber/Amazigh, Fulani, Tamashek, all kinds of music... I love African music and music unites people, transcending barriers, such as social stigmas and even certain negative connotations words might carry! :)
ariagia 1 year ago
@ariagia correct, the correct word to be used would be Ethnic Group for what Americans call "tribes". That said, this is Tinariwen from Mali :). Also, Etran Finatawa from Niger is my favorite group probably because they mix Fulani and Tamasheq together.
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@yehyeh22 : "I think I can safely assume...you are not African and thus are not intimately familiar with the vastness of tribes and the stark difference between ethnic group and tribe. " >> ME: Obviously, U R NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE USAGE OF WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND THE STARK DIFFERENCES IN CONNOTATIONS AND CONTEXT. "Tribe" has a negative connotation, i.e., "primative" . **(R. B. Moore, "Racism in the English Language," in The Production of Reality, ed. J. O'Brien, 2005)**.
ariagia 1 year ago
@yehyeh22: SO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING FIRST AND FOREMOST, this is WHY I PREFER to use the WORD ETHNIC GROUP when referring to AFRICANS, as this word is neutral. "Tribe" has negative contexts, AND I'D RATHER NOT REFER TO MY OWN PEOPLE, AFRICANS, OR ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING as "tribe", when I can use a word such as "ethnic group" that has more positive connotations. I'm sticking with "ethnic group", and I'm sure other educated AFRICANS (and people furthermore) will, too.
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@ariagia lol Too funny. You call me an "ignorant foreigner" - an African - and you at the same time claim Africans to be your people. Hilarious. You don't understand the difference of ethnicity and tribe in >Africa<, I don't care at all about the connotations of the words, only the meaning. Please travel to Africa and get to know the natives. Maybe you will see the difference for yourself.
yehyeh22 1 year ago
there are many tribes twaregs but the real twareg are berbers and not foulani and songhai.They speak berber (amazigh).The real twareg (first class) are not dark like foulan or songhai i they are dark a little.The others are melting poat between reals twaregs and slaves.
MuhamadElHady 1 year ago
chicha melon & kass ataye bel kawkaw
sensinterdy 1 year ago
this is berebers from mali. but moroccans and algerians can understand. tunisians are on the other side of algeria. they have other languiges.
dumnorkevi 1 year ago 2
THEY`RE THE ORIGINAL TOUAREG OF ALGERIA , THAT`S THE POEPEL OF THE QUEEN TIN HINAN i love my bled i love my poepel , tamazghana
andalousso1 1 year ago
tuwareg
¡GRACIAS!
Por tan bello video y misica del alma.
Desde Mexico.
coatlicu 1 year ago
no son ni algeriens ni amazigh son Touareg du mali
aammiin 1 year ago
c le point depart de la culture mondial.... vive l'algerie
Djidjel 2 years ago
VIVE LE TIERS MONDE !!!!!
sahitou88 2 years ago
c mais racine très beut mèrci
MrGreen1492 2 years ago
super vraiment extract
mustdream 2 years ago
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filmedj 2 years ago
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MrBIOLO 2 years ago
This form of music is called Ishumar, it is played in Niger, Mali, Northern Nigeria, Northern Ghana, Burkina Faso, parts of Libya and Algerie.
VraiDiouf 2 years ago
jolie music dommage que j'ai pas trouvè ces music sur le moteur de recherche pour le telechargement
kadoct13 2 years ago
the comment below was for teemeena
IMOUHAG 2 years ago
très belle music, bonne continuation
hell638 2 years ago
What 'Later' show is this from?
As a Westerner who has close Tuareg friends, I find this fascinating. The Tuareg culture interestingly accords a lot of power to women, which I never would have known before meeting my friends. I just love the ululating in Tuareg music , too! They are truly beautiful people, inside as well as out.
meredumais 2 years ago
I forget where I read this, but I know it was probably from National Geographic.
Whenever strangers come into a Tuareg's home, the man has to cover up his face. Unlike how it would be for other cultures, the women would have to do that, but as a woman, I love their culture because the women seem to have more power.
budgiebudgielover 2 years ago
Yes, you're absolutely right. I have a close Touareg friend who's told me all about women's power with Touareg culture. In fact, she married a Bantu Muslim, so she essentially surrendered a lot of her power by doing that. I think she regrets having married outside of the tribe !
meredumais 2 years ago
There are Bantu Muslims? I hope this is a joke.
VraiDiouf 2 years ago
A joke? Well, I have a female Touareg friend from Mali/Niger who married an ethnic Hausa. They are both Muslim. He told me that he was 'morphologically' Bantu, culturally Hausa. Perhaps you can explain your version.
meredumais 2 years ago
Hausa is not Bantu, Hausa is Afro-Asiatic just like Tuareg. Do you know what Bantu is? Bantu Muslims hardly exist. Bantu is a language group. Hausa do not belong in the Bantu ethnic group. Hausa culture is very similar to all Sahelian cultures.
VraiDiouf 2 years ago
Yes, I know it's very complex-separating the concept of 'ethnicity' from that of 'race'. My brother-in-law is an African anthropologist and knows far more than I do. You're right, Hausa is termed an ethnic group, as is Bantu, and they are distinct. I was trying to point out the difference between 'black Africans' and 'Saharan Africans'- those are the words of my Touareg friend, not me. She looks very much like a Tunisian or Algerian, while her Hausa husband looks like an 'African-American'.
meredumais 2 years ago
That's completely not true, Hausa themselves are considered Saharan African. You will find light and dark skinned Hausa as you will find light and Dark-skinned Tuareg. Look up Koudede, he's darker than most Hausa and he's a Tuareg. In tribe in the Sahel is considered Saharan African. Meaning Songhai, Djerma, Hausa, Tuareg, Fula, Beri Beri, etc.
VraiDiouf 2 years ago
Thanks, I will look him up. A question: in what 'category' would you place Ali Farka Toure? He's much darker than most Saharans, no? I don't like 'over-labeling', and it's a long story, but my Touareg friend is a woman for whom I interpreted during her pregnancy and childbirth in the US. She looks very 'Moroccan'. Her husband, a Hausa, is considered 'black', while she's not. I know this is silly, but there was actually confusion as to how to 'categorize' her son's race when he was born...
meredumais 2 years ago
Ali Farka Touré himself is a Saharan African, his language Songhai or Sonrai is a Nilo-Saharan language. People classify people based on language not based on their skin tone in Africa. Your friend. In Africa we don't really classify based on skin color because you can find someone who is very light almost a white person within the Fulani, mandé, Touareg, Hausa Tribes, but you can also find very dark people in those tribal/ethnic groups. So we classify people based on their language.
VraiDiouf 2 years ago
By the way, thanks for all the info, VraiDiouf. Sounds like a far more reasonable 'classification' system. I suppose you mean 'native language', as many speak French, and others?The appearance factor means nothing to me, but you'd be surprised how many odd situations i've seen clients in when having to indicate their ethnicity on medical forms here in the US. I'm serious...some were just left as question marks, and they were the lighter-skinned Saharans in general...
meredumais 2 years ago
French is the Colonized language Mere, not our native tongue. Native Tongue is the group we belong to. I speak French because I'm from a French speaking country, but my native tongue is Fulfulde or Fulfude (it is also known as Pular).
VraiDiouf 2 years ago
Right, VraiDiouf. Many Aricans I know speak six or seven languages, and they switch effortlessly from one to another. It's amazing to hear, especially from a liguist like myself. That's why I'm still a bit confused as to how people are classified by languages, no 'ethnicity', even though it seems like a much less potentially racist way to categorize. Hope that makes sense !
meredumais 2 years ago 2
Our ethnicity is our tribal group, if we use the Wests definition of ethnicity I'm considered black, if we used the West African definition of Ethnicity I'm considered Fulani. That is what I'm saying, people's ethnicity is based on what tribal group they belong to or what their mother tongue is. We don't call them tribes in Africa btw, (Songhai, Mandé, Fulbe, Tamashek, etc.) we call them ethnic group or in French groupe d'ethnique.
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thank you for the various postings because there is a lot i can take from it.
pusifut 2 years ago
@VraiDiouf Only native people around the world, i.e., Native Americans, Africans, Asians, Latins are called tribes, but you never hear about European ethnic groups being called tribes when they maintain their customs/traditions.
ariagia 1 year ago
Actually, there are both tribes and ethnic groups in Africa. Africa is recognized as the most diverse continent in the world by scientists, our people, cultures, languages, and many other things are very diverse. For example, I'm part of the Somali ethnic group and within that ethnic group are many, many tribes. So ethnic group and tribes are not the same thing in Africa, they both exist and are a result of a long history of human habitation in Africa, longer than Europe's or Asia's.
yehyeh22 1 year ago
@yehyeh22 YOU'RE TELLING ME SOMETHING I ALREADY KNOW. I understand what you are saying. I said EUROPEANS are HARDLY EVER referred to as tribes, but Africans and other native people ARE USUALLY referred to as "tribes". SO tribe in this context denotes a negative connotation, usually referring to the people as less civilized or SLAVES. This is why I chose to say ETHNIC GROUP(s) instead of "tribe(s)".
ariagia 1 year ago
@yehyeh22 According to Merriam Webster's dictionary, an ethnic group is "of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, TRIBAL, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background". so yes, i will continue to use the term ETHNIC GROUPS, AS THE WORD is inclusive of TRIBES.
ariagia 1 year ago
@ariagia I disagree. The word "tribe" does not have any connotation. Ethnic group is not an accurate word to describe the Hawiye tribe, for example. The definition of tribe: A unit of sociopolitical organization consisting of a number of families, clans, or other groups who share a common ancestry and culture and among whom leadership is typically neither formalized nor permanent.
Each tribe differs in this and each tribe has many sub-tribes. An ethnic group includes several levels of tribes.
yehyeh22 1 year ago
@yehyeh22 FURTHERMORE ALL WORDS HAVE CONNOTATIONS, especially in regards to the context they are used in. Yes, the word "tribe", in this aspect does have a connotation. Calling all other people around the world "tribes" and Europeans primarily "ethnic groups" clearly denotes something. Each tribe has sub-tribes... each tribe has various categories ... each ethnic group have various categories.
ariagia 1 year ago
@ariagia I think I can safely assume that you are not African and thus are not intimately familiar with the vastness of tribes and the stark difference between ethnic group and tribe. In my own African language, there are different words to describe the different levels of tribes. You are free to call it however you want, it makes no difference to me. But I believe I know quite enough about tribes and ethnic groups and don't need a foreigner to tell me otherwise, no offense.
yehyeh22 1 year ago
@yehyeh22 oh please, you're an ignorant foreigner. back to what i was saying, EUROPEAN people are RARELY called TRIBES when they maintain their traditions, but everyone else around the world are referred to as "tribes", *more often* than ethnic groups. I don't care about these differences in the words "tribe" and "ethnic group" you're so keen on talking about. The point is when everyone else gets denoted to "tribe" more often than "ethnic group", it is a HUGE issue. Europeans rarely = "tribes".
ariagia 1 year ago
@ariagia Regardless of how you feel about the connotations of those words, are you or are you not African?
yehyeh22 1 year ago
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@yehyeh22 BEING AFRICAN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE USAGE OF THE WORD TRIBE YOU ARE SO SILLY AND THAT WAS AN IGNORANT THING TO SAY, "I think I can safely assume that you are not African and thus are not intimately familiar with the vastness of tribes and the stark difference between ethnic group and tribe. " I can absolutely say without a doubt, that YOU ARE NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE USAGE OF WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND THE STARK DIFFERENCES IN CONNOTATIONS AND CONTEXT.
ariagia 1 year ago
@VraiDiouf exactly, even in French, they are called ethnic groups... smh. and you can still say that ethnicity is *determined* by what *social group* they belong to, therefore eliminating the use of the word tribe and any negative connotations or stigmas that come with the word, as tribes carry certain social stigmas sometimes, which are negative... anyway, you get my point.
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glorplaxy 1 year ago
@glorplaxy black is actually a skin color, our race is Human. My ethnic group is Fulani or Fula.
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iayyam 2 months ago
VraiDiouf, I'm sending you a video to watch if you don't mind. It's in French, which I assume you speak and understand. It will show you why I'm unsure about the exact nature of Touareg 'genetic ethnicity'. Not that it should matter, and it doesn't to me, but it shows what a wide spectrum of physical characteristics there is within the Touareg tribe.
meredumais 2 years ago
Mere, there are wide spectrums of physical characteristics in almost every African tribe in West Africa. This does not only apply to the Touareg, but also the Fulani, Hausa, Mandé, Songhai, Igbo etc. Tribes in the Sahel are not only under 1 category of physical characteristics. There are many Tuaregs that look like and would pass for Black American, there are others who would not. As we Africans know, Africa was once an all black continent, but black people still came in many skin tones.
VraiDiouf 2 years ago
To say one looks Tunisian or Algerian means nothing. One can look like a Bosnian or Croatian or like a Hausa or African American to be frank and be native to Algeria. True Tuareg are dark skinned people ancestral to many African Americans according to DNA as are the Hausa Fulani and Yoruba - including Morgan Freeman and a female founders of the slave reparations movement here in America. Bantu speakers are usually found further south as in Southern Africa -and they too can look different.
KushaDwipa 2 years ago 9
KushaDwipa-It seems that in my quest for the best way to attain cultural sensitivity among the population I work with (Africans who claim to be Bantus, Hausas, Touaregs,Bantus from the DRC, etc., who all speak French), I unintentionally irritate people watching this video. Clients tell me very different things about their own cultures as well as others'. You can probably imagine I've pretty much heard it all. I'm just seeking objective info to understand them better. I'm no racist.
meredumais 2 years ago
Hi Mere - actually I didn't find ur comments racist but a little surprising given the diverse appearance of populations of Algeria and the Sahara, which i'm sure u have become familiar with having lived among such people as the Tuareg and Hausa .
KushaDwipa 2 years ago
Kusha, I appreciate your thoughts. I chose to work with Africans out of a fascination with Francophone Africa and its people, but you must understand that it gets confusing for a boring 'Caucasian' woman like me to keep track of subtle distinctions,sometimes! By the way, a relative of mine is a Harvard-trained anthropologist who shuns the concept of 'race' completely, basing his argument on DNA evidence. Still, cultural pride and identity are, and should be, precious to many.
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mars3400 1 year ago
@mars3400 - I can understand your supposing that about the Tuareg because people are not aware of the Tuareg coming to America. But, people related to Hausa are well known to have come to America. Everyone between the India and Ireland in the North and southAfrica and Philipines were slaves early in America. I do not have to research this it is all over the internet. Many of these Arabicized people were brought by the Portuguese before the English came.
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@jimilli09 Yes - Jamili as I have said there is a strong link to the Tuareg found in some African Americans. Believe it or not. There is already done on the connection between the Lumbee Indians and the Tuareg. Also it is well known that the Tuareg, Trarza and Kunta Moors made up a significant number of the Portuguese slaves brought to the Americas from Senegambia the Trarza and Brakna Emirates. These people were fighting amongst themselves and were often sold into slaver as prisoners of war.
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jimilli09 1 year ago
@KushaDwipa _ i meant to say there has already been a genetic study done on the Tuareg origin of the Lumbee that explains certain traditions among Americans that they and related people were actually part Portuguese "Canaanites" and Carthaginians. According to early newspaper articles of the 1800s they came from the Moors of the peedee Rivier in South Carolina.
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@jimilli09 - You are correct the word Moor like Negro was applied to the same people by the Portuguese in America whether from Bantu, Tuareg, Trarza and Brakna in Senegambia. Some of my people are also from South Carolina by the way jimilli. I agree that Fulani slaves and Tuareg were reclassified as black indians, Early Indians did not hate black Indians don't confuse modern white Cherokee with early ones who are described as mainly very tall, dark copper brown well proportioned people .
KushaDwipa 1 year ago
@KushaDwipa - you will have to point me though to the dna study of the Navajo though. I can understand the Baluchi one since they are supposed to have originated from the same area. But the Navajo connection sounds a little strange to me since they are not dark-skinned like most early other Indians out West, and of the Indians look least like the Tuareg. Then again, with dna these days I guess anything is possible.
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@jimilli09 - I'm not sure why it would be unclear. The coming of Africans from Senegambia where many Tuareg were taken is well documented. The Tuareg were often fighting against the Kunta, Fulani and other groups from the Brakna and Traraza Emirates. They often ended up prisoners of war and the Portuguese and other people brought them to the Americas. There are books on the subject.
KushaDwipa 1 year ago
@jimilli09 - You would not believe i have even had Hausa people email me and tell me no Hausa people came to America as slaves. LOL. It is ridiculous what people around the world have been taught by watching too much of Kunta Kinte on television. Even the real Kunta was supposed to have been from Mauritania.
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jimilli09 1 year ago
Now I have something else to read about, Bantu Islam, because I never heard of that.
budgiebudgielover 2 years ago
Try "Hausa' Muslims if Bantu doesn't work.
I've known Africans who claim they are 'Bantu' as well as 'Muslim'-and they explained to me that Bantu is a morphological term. I've also known Bantus who are Christian. It's a lot of semantic hair-splitting. There are many different morphologies even within the Touareg tribe, as you can see by watching videos of them here...esp. in Niger.
meredumais 2 years ago
As long as I have been into studying cultural groups, I have never heard of Bantu/Hausa, only a short time ago after my independant Asia studies I came across Uyghur people.
Semantic? So, I quess they were 'inspired' by a lot of Abrahamic religons in their culture?
I still havn't got the time to do the research!
CindyLynStr 2 years ago
@budgiebudgielover
Kenyan and Tanzanian Muslims are Bantu (Swahili civilization, etc.)
SekuWattara 1 year ago
@SekuWattara "Bantu" is not a race or culture. Using the term discredits the thousands of ethnic groups in those areas.
bruin03 1 year ago
Sorry Uffir, you must be either ignorant or someone who is trying to deny our arabic values. Algerian music is 80% arabic, from hawzi, chaaabi, andaloussi, ksantini ,RAI etc etc...the list is long. So Do your home work properly and appreciate WHAT the arabs are sharing with you.
teemeena 2 years ago
A question, where do the biggest artists of these styles of music come from? for chaabi hawzi ... azefoune for andaloussi and ksantini you will find them (sefarad) ie jews refugees from spain
IMOUHAG 2 years ago
Orgasmo musicale ...¡incredible!
lauratender 2 years ago
Shariotoflove, Your geography and anthropological knowleledge is sadly lacking. So you shouldn't be so rude as to ridicule others knowledge.
tambourine88 2 years ago
c est tres joli les fils du deser vrement vous avez un message qui doit arriver a tous le monde contunier dans votre chemin
abousami72 2 years ago
africa is not just the land of niger but a lot of different people
syllaaamy 2 years ago
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these look like niggas to me,imfrom this tribe
quepasa3000 2 years ago
Nice groove. Clean sound.
bPofDuluth 2 years ago
my cousin...
pascalll7 2 years ago
tuareg
nustiusigur 2 years ago
if this style can be routed to their origins in africa, then you can say this sounds very bluesy and it influenced the blues we listen to today via the african from the very unfortunate slave trade
shariotoflove 2 years ago
blues 's origin from Africa
mdragondz 2 years ago
yes i know, but this music is north african, more of an arabic influence, yet it still has a bluesy feel to it like say the west africans.
shariotoflove 2 years ago
I Don't Think That Touareg Music Has Something To Do With Arabic's...Actuelly They Are Berbers Or Amazigh, People From North Africa Aren't Arabs...And Regarding The Music It's Mixture Of Traditional Music, Blues and Jazz Styles...By The Way, In Touareg Culture Only Women Can Play Music And Sing (Not Men) and Men Do The Shield Dance V40XzankIFU&feature=related
uffir 2 years ago 2
ok, lol, you really need to brush up on your geography. if you look at a map of north africa the majority of the countries are arabic i.e egypt, tunisia, algeria, morroco, lybia, ertirea, etc they all have in both influeced eatch other in terms of arabic and african music, and we are talking a good 1,000 years here.
shariotoflove 2 years ago
:) Sorry But I Think That Geography Doesn't Tell Very Well About Folks... I'm From Algeria And I Can Tell You That Many Of As Have Nothing In Common With Arabs And Their Culture (Except Islam) And As I Said Before Our Music Has Berber And African Roots
uffir 2 years ago 2
nice cool song
listenteetee 2 years ago
Excellent Music !!
moufi1 3 years ago
Thank you so much for this video
vineetkgupta5219 3 years ago
i feel so happy when i lesten this music of south algeria
FORHADI7 3 years ago
My new favorite band!
sonikcycle 3 years ago
BOOOM BOOOM BOOOM
kcuskcid 3 years ago
Nice...African music rocks!
nowhere8 3 years ago
The same happened to me. I got the cd, after I saw then in a video about a festival in the sahara, somewhere where robert plant was at. And that's it, I fall in love with their music. It remains me back home.
thanks Tinariwen for the music.
ivanamusic 3 years ago