Just keep messing around with it and see what you come up with, I'm sure you will find a part that needs the whammy to make it really shine. And very nice, do you have any recordings up anywheres?
Yeah. It's tough to find practical use for the whammy, it's a more guitar-friendly effect in my opinion. The octave up / octave down harmony setting is definitely the one I use the most. Then the basic octave down shift is fun to do at the end of a song or when you want to have a huge drop off somewhere in a song. What kind of music does your band play?
Yeah, since it does the shift electronically as opposed to physically (as on a real guitar whammy) it's got a very different response. It takes a while for the whammy pedal to really make sense and get it under control to the point where it sounds more natural so I'd say keep playing around with it and see if you can get something you like out of it. On the other hand, you could go the Les Claypool route and get a whammy bar installed on your bass but I can't imagine that'd be cheap.
Also, the octave up octave down setting is good. You can play the D and G strings and have an octave lower so it's low and punchy but retain the treble click from the higher strings. Good for when you want to cut through a little better, especially with distortion.
That's a good deal, I had to pay $600 for mine. In retrospect, probably should have held out for a cheaper one. But oh well. And yeah, it's tough. the 5th up octave up / 5th up 6th up are pretty cool and simple to use (even if you just use them without the whammy to shift up). It just makes a basic chord so it adds a touch more flavor. Great for a 3 piece band to add depth.
Yeah they are. How much did you pay for yours? They're really cool and way fun to mess around with but finding a practical, tasteful way to use them in actual songs can be difficult. Especially the settings outside of the octave down, octave up, and the octave down octave down simultaneous.
What kind of stuff are you getting? I just got a new volume pedal, a volume / tone pedal, a Morley power wah (80's), a true bypass wah pad, Pro Co Rat (80's), EHX Holier Grail, Boss NS-2, and a 1974 Gibson Grabber.
Thanks for the constructive criticism. I'm still not entirely sure what to do with any of these parts, really. So suggestions and what not help, that way I have some semblance of an idea of what the next step should be. But thanks for all the kind words and what not. Check back soon... I'm getting some new toys in the mail soon :)
Quick question to run by you man, do you think it makes much difference what the running order of my pedals are on my board? At the moment my bass is going direct into an eq pedal, followed by the mxr m-80, then into the boss chorus and into a wah pedal then into my amp. I'm relatively new to running so many effects!
I bought the RV-3 on ebay too, so hopefully it should arrive soon :)
Signal chain can actually be very important to how your effects sound. For example, my phrase sampler pedal is at the end so I can sample with other effects on my board. If it were at the beginning of my chain and I sampled something clean then tried to put, say, delay or chorus over it, it would put that effect onto what i looped (which, with delay would make the timing very screwy unless for some reason it was in time with what i just played).
The main point here is that your signal chain should have a specific order which compliments pedals BEFORE it in the chain. I also think that time modulated effects (delay, reverb / echo, chorus, flanger) should be first in the chain then your other effects. It;s also worth noting that time modulated effects, at least in my opinion, sounds better through an effects loop (most amplifiers have at least one).
So, for the pedals you said, i'd say put the RV-3, then chorus, then wah (I'd consider getting a true bypass mod to your wah too, wah pedals DESTROY your tone. Though if you have two [you said eq and M-80] eq pedals, it might not be too bad), then your eq pedals. EQ pedals should always go last because you want to have the tone modification you're using the pedal for apply to your affected signal as well as your clean.
Also, if you want to do volume swells (with a volume pedal, that is. You could just turn the knob on your guitar) - the volume pedal should always go before your time modulated effects. Then it will have that spacey trail effect to it rather than just sudden gains and drop offs in volume.
I would highly recommend it. I love the way the really heavy reverb sounds, very rich and over tone-y and when used in conjunction with the chorus on the PS-3... it's basically just an eargasm with every note you hit.
Yeah I already have the Boss CEB-3 so I was thinking of just picking up seperate Digital Delay and Reverb pedals but after hearing the RV-3 I have to get it! Ebay looks like my only hope though.
Unfortunately yeah. The RV-3 has been out of production for quite a few years now so eBay or even craigslist will be your best bet. I got both of mine on eBay for about $125 each, shipping included. Just hold out for one that has a low price and free shipping and you'll be set, unless you're ok with spending $150 on it.
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haggis325 1 year ago
I have a feeling the board could really benefit from a Flanger Hoax and a EHX Cathedral. Just my educated opinion.
TheYoutubies 1 year ago
@TheYoutubies You just had to be that guy, didn't you Jeff...
mbro7614 1 year ago
Cool, let me know when you have something I can listen to for sure!
mbro7614 2 years ago
Just keep messing around with it and see what you come up with, I'm sure you will find a part that needs the whammy to make it really shine. And very nice, do you have any recordings up anywheres?
mbro7614 2 years ago
Yeah. It's tough to find practical use for the whammy, it's a more guitar-friendly effect in my opinion. The octave up / octave down harmony setting is definitely the one I use the most. Then the basic octave down shift is fun to do at the end of a song or when you want to have a huge drop off somewhere in a song. What kind of music does your band play?
mbro7614 2 years ago
Yeah, since it does the shift electronically as opposed to physically (as on a real guitar whammy) it's got a very different response. It takes a while for the whammy pedal to really make sense and get it under control to the point where it sounds more natural so I'd say keep playing around with it and see if you can get something you like out of it. On the other hand, you could go the Les Claypool route and get a whammy bar installed on your bass but I can't imagine that'd be cheap.
mbro7614 2 years ago
Yeah, as soon as I get the Holier Grail and have time to play with it a bit to figure out what I'm doing I'll post a vid for it.
mbro7614 2 years ago
Also, the octave up octave down setting is good. You can play the D and G strings and have an octave lower so it's low and punchy but retain the treble click from the higher strings. Good for when you want to cut through a little better, especially with distortion.
mbro7614 2 years ago
That's a good deal, I had to pay $600 for mine. In retrospect, probably should have held out for a cheaper one. But oh well. And yeah, it's tough. the 5th up octave up / 5th up 6th up are pretty cool and simple to use (even if you just use them without the whammy to shift up). It just makes a basic chord so it adds a touch more flavor. Great for a 3 piece band to add depth.
mbro7614 2 years ago
Yeah they are. How much did you pay for yours? They're really cool and way fun to mess around with but finding a practical, tasteful way to use them in actual songs can be difficult. Especially the settings outside of the octave down, octave up, and the octave down octave down simultaneous.
mbro7614 2 years ago
What kind of stuff are you getting? I just got a new volume pedal, a volume / tone pedal, a Morley power wah (80's), a true bypass wah pad, Pro Co Rat (80's), EHX Holier Grail, Boss NS-2, and a 1974 Gibson Grabber.
mbro7614 2 years ago
Thanks for the constructive criticism. I'm still not entirely sure what to do with any of these parts, really. So suggestions and what not help, that way I have some semblance of an idea of what the next step should be. But thanks for all the kind words and what not. Check back soon... I'm getting some new toys in the mail soon :)
mbro7614 2 years ago
Quick question to run by you man, do you think it makes much difference what the running order of my pedals are on my board? At the moment my bass is going direct into an eq pedal, followed by the mxr m-80, then into the boss chorus and into a wah pedal then into my amp. I'm relatively new to running so many effects!
I bought the RV-3 on ebay too, so hopefully it should arrive soon :)
Moiph1 2 years ago
Signal chain can actually be very important to how your effects sound. For example, my phrase sampler pedal is at the end so I can sample with other effects on my board. If it were at the beginning of my chain and I sampled something clean then tried to put, say, delay or chorus over it, it would put that effect onto what i looped (which, with delay would make the timing very screwy unless for some reason it was in time with what i just played).
mbro7614 2 years ago
The main point here is that your signal chain should have a specific order which compliments pedals BEFORE it in the chain. I also think that time modulated effects (delay, reverb / echo, chorus, flanger) should be first in the chain then your other effects. It;s also worth noting that time modulated effects, at least in my opinion, sounds better through an effects loop (most amplifiers have at least one).
mbro7614 2 years ago
So, for the pedals you said, i'd say put the RV-3, then chorus, then wah (I'd consider getting a true bypass mod to your wah too, wah pedals DESTROY your tone. Though if you have two [you said eq and M-80] eq pedals, it might not be too bad), then your eq pedals. EQ pedals should always go last because you want to have the tone modification you're using the pedal for apply to your affected signal as well as your clean.
mbro7614 2 years ago
Also, if you want to do volume swells (with a volume pedal, that is. You could just turn the knob on your guitar) - the volume pedal should always go before your time modulated effects. Then it will have that spacey trail effect to it rather than just sudden gains and drop offs in volume.
Sorry about rambling with 4 posts haha.
mbro7614 2 years ago
Dude that RV-3 is sooooo nice. Would love to get my hands on one.
Moiph1 2 years ago
I would highly recommend it. I love the way the really heavy reverb sounds, very rich and over tone-y and when used in conjunction with the chorus on the PS-3... it's basically just an eargasm with every note you hit.
mbro7614 2 years ago
Yeah I already have the Boss CEB-3 so I was thinking of just picking up seperate Digital Delay and Reverb pedals but after hearing the RV-3 I have to get it! Ebay looks like my only hope though.
Moiph1 2 years ago
Unfortunately yeah. The RV-3 has been out of production for quite a few years now so eBay or even craigslist will be your best bet. I got both of mine on eBay for about $125 each, shipping included. Just hold out for one that has a low price and free shipping and you'll be set, unless you're ok with spending $150 on it.
mbro7614 2 years ago