i know what you mean, i have seen some of Taras Training Videos. I think his training works for him, even though he seems to be far away from his top form at the moment.
@ HandelandJ and nismoz31turbo
talking about Bagent. Is he good, yes. Is he strong, yes. He got a awesome left, yes. BUT the way he behaved against Semerenko is just plain bad. I mean, im still suprised Semernko didnt punch in his face. Talking is one thing, but to get physical is another.
Have you guys seen that fight? Seriously, i think thats not helping armwrestling, not even for promotion, show or whatever. Especially not from someone who proclaims to have the best left hand in the world. But since Bagent carried Semerenko from stage after his fight with Brzenk i guess they get along again?
And yes, Bagent has no Hook, not even with left.
@ HandelandJ
John flashed Semernko 2008 zloty, so he was propably still on. but a flash is a flash. I have seen you get flashed too :-)
one more thing. I dont think the summerversion of 2008 Denis was so much weaker than he was in November 2008 where he placed second behind Brzenk. But then, its all just guesses, speculations etc.
and since we are talking about roids...who of the top 10 heavyweights is not on roids, at least from time to time?
Well I was right about Semerenko juicing, he got busted at the Europeans in June 2009, that explains why in 2005 he gave John the fight of his life and now John can flash him, and he can't even beat summer of 2008 Denis who is probably barely top 10 in the World. But back in the day Semerenko was ranked #6 in the World above Devon, Ron, and Michael Todd... here nowhere near the top 10...
Do these guys use steroids? It wouldn't surprise me to find steroid abuse in any professional sport, but these guys don't just have big arms they are huge in general.
plus these guys are so fresh and hot, john is not feeling like used to be ...he has done everything he could in the past but l will tell you..if he gets mad , nobody can beat him.
I don't think that can be... sure some of them may have but if anything Taras got weaker, too (look at how fast John beat him, too, at Nemiroff 2008 compared to any other time). Plus Taras and Alexey both did way worse at Europeans than they used to... please don[t be upset if you're fans of Taras and Alexey, but I wonder if they used to juice and they stopped and lost some strength... to me Taras looked smaller at Zloty 2008, and look how huge Alexey's arms are when he nearly beats Brzenk!
actually i really like how Taras wrestles and i think he has the most impressive arms in the buisness, but im pretty sure he juices from time to time, even though he says he doesnt even take supplements, except creatine, because they are too expensive. I seriously cant believe that. His genetics are awesome, propably incredible, but in 2007 at the vendetta agains Brzenk he looked unreal. But then..who knows. I just hope he is clean...
And where have he been at last years zltoy? Anybody knows?
in my opinion bagent is one of the most overrated armwrestlers of all time. He depends of getting away with quick starts and and he has to toproll his opponents. If you see any match where he is sucked into a hook, he almost always loses it.
Speed and table smarts are part of the game, when he is a solid 280 lbs. monster he's also very strong. Did you see him lay down to Pushkar at the 2005 Nemiroff Cup? Armtv was there filming and he said he felt like he could beat Pushkar inside, but wanted to save himself for the overall, since his goal was to win the overall (more $ in the overall). And he did win the overall right and left. vs. Arsen and at the ROTN he was an untrained, unmotivated 255 lbs. but some people do overestimate him
I think taras might juice but at the time of waf's he is free of drugs in his system. I believe that the reason taras's arms look so good is because of his training. He does exercises that promote maximum muscle growth. He will do about 8 sets with 6 reps on exercises. That promotes more muscle gain, but with less strength gain then other exercises. If he focused on static exercises and lower reps heavier weight, he'd be stronger. He does reverse wrist curls too, for looks
This really impressed me until I saw John Brzenk flash Semerenko so fast it didn't even seem real. Tim Bresnan and Taras also beat Semerenko. now they are great pullers, too, but what happened to Semrenko almost pinning John at 1 time in his life to getting dominated by John and Denis, anybody know?
The guy on the left is huge! Just look at his enormous biceps and shoulders. Arm wrestling him would like me being a child arm wrestling. He would have an easy victory!
John Brzenk is the Greatest
m00se321 8 months ago
he-is-just-using-his-whole-weight-this-is-not-armwrestling-the hell-!!!!!!!!!
bernisweltredsun 1 year ago
@bernisweltredsun its allowed to use you bodyweight but if your hand isnt strong enough it wont help you
sototajeri 10 months ago 2
lmao at 1.16 where that dude goes in for the sneaky grab
danjohnjmaes 1 year ago 3
@nismoz31turbo
i know what you mean, i have seen some of Taras Training Videos. I think his training works for him, even though he seems to be far away from his top form at the moment.
@ HandelandJ and nismoz31turbo
talking about Bagent. Is he good, yes. Is he strong, yes. He got a awesome left, yes. BUT the way he behaved against Semerenko is just plain bad. I mean, im still suprised Semernko didnt punch in his face. Talking is one thing, but to get physical is another.
BesterMenschDerWelt 2 years ago
Have you guys seen that fight? Seriously, i think thats not helping armwrestling, not even for promotion, show or whatever. Especially not from someone who proclaims to have the best left hand in the world. But since Bagent carried Semerenko from stage after his fight with Brzenk i guess they get along again?
And yes, Bagent has no Hook, not even with left.
@ HandelandJ
John flashed Semernko 2008 zloty, so he was propably still on. but a flash is a flash. I have seen you get flashed too :-)
BesterMenschDerWelt 2 years ago
@ HandelandJ
one more thing. I dont think the summerversion of 2008 Denis was so much weaker than he was in November 2008 where he placed second behind Brzenk. But then, its all just guesses, speculations etc.
and since we are talking about roids...who of the top 10 heavyweights is not on roids, at least from time to time?
If i go by look alone, i would say Devon only...
but in the end who knows?
BesterMenschDerWelt 2 years ago
Well I was right about Semerenko juicing, he got busted at the Europeans in June 2009, that explains why in 2005 he gave John the fight of his life and now John can flash him, and he can't even beat summer of 2008 Denis who is probably barely top 10 in the World. But back in the day Semerenko was ranked #6 in the World above Devon, Ron, and Michael Todd... here nowhere near the top 10...
HandelandJ 2 years ago
is Cyplenkov unbeatable?
Zipst3r 2 years ago
@Zipst3r
left handed, pretty much yes.........
nismoz31turbo 2 years ago 5
Do these guys use steroids? It wouldn't surprise me to find steroid abuse in any professional sport, but these guys don't just have big arms they are huge in general.
BeardClam 2 years ago
@BeardClam
pretty much yes. Semerenko has been busted for steroid use :(
nismoz31turbo 2 years ago
Anyone know if Denis can speak English ?
undergroundbasement 2 years ago
@undergroundbasement
I met him and oncescu in person. Dennis does not speak english, oncescu was not really fluent with it, but he could converse in it good enough.
nismoz31turbo 2 years ago
look at the russian guys hands O.0
spaceman1605 2 years ago
Georgian Genadi kvikvinia beat samerenko in europe 2009 final :D
RezoChigogidze 2 years ago
hey hande ,dont you know how old is john?
plus these guys are so fresh and hot, john is not feeling like used to be ...he has done everything he could in the past but l will tell you..if he gets mad , nobody can beat him.
metalkaz1234 2 years ago
He's 45 and he's still right up there better than either of these 2 right handed. Far better than Semerenko.
HandelandJ 2 years ago
Was John weak or injured when Semerenko almost beat him that one time?
HandelandJ 3 years ago
I don't know... don't think semerenko is weaker,but everyone else did get stronger...crazy...
nismoz31turbo 3 years ago
I don't think that can be... sure some of them may have but if anything Taras got weaker, too (look at how fast John beat him, too, at Nemiroff 2008 compared to any other time). Plus Taras and Alexey both did way worse at Europeans than they used to... please don[t be upset if you're fans of Taras and Alexey, but I wonder if they used to juice and they stopped and lost some strength... to me Taras looked smaller at Zloty 2008, and look how huge Alexey's arms are when he nearly beats Brzenk!
HandelandJ 3 years ago
when was latest alexey vs brzenk because i cant seem to find alexey anywhere after 2004 or so.
Taurine77 2 years ago
actually i really like how Taras wrestles and i think he has the most impressive arms in the buisness, but im pretty sure he juices from time to time, even though he says he doesnt even take supplements, except creatine, because they are too expensive. I seriously cant believe that. His genetics are awesome, propably incredible, but in 2007 at the vendetta agains Brzenk he looked unreal. But then..who knows. I just hope he is clean...
And where have he been at last years zltoy? Anybody knows?
BesterMenschDerWelt 2 years ago
ohh and what Bagent did to Semerenko at the vendetta is unacceptable. No wonder they dont invite him anymore to zloty.
BesterMenschDerWelt 2 years ago
@BesterMenschDerWelt
in my opinion bagent is one of the most overrated armwrestlers of all time. He depends of getting away with quick starts and and he has to toproll his opponents. If you see any match where he is sucked into a hook, he almost always loses it.
nismoz31turbo 2 years ago
Speed and table smarts are part of the game, when he is a solid 280 lbs. monster he's also very strong. Did you see him lay down to Pushkar at the 2005 Nemiroff Cup? Armtv was there filming and he said he felt like he could beat Pushkar inside, but wanted to save himself for the overall, since his goal was to win the overall (more $ in the overall). And he did win the overall right and left. vs. Arsen and at the ROTN he was an untrained, unmotivated 255 lbs. but some people do overestimate him
HandelandJ 2 years ago
@BesterMenschDerWelt
I think taras might juice but at the time of waf's he is free of drugs in his system. I believe that the reason taras's arms look so good is because of his training. He does exercises that promote maximum muscle growth. He will do about 8 sets with 6 reps on exercises. That promotes more muscle gain, but with less strength gain then other exercises. If he focused on static exercises and lower reps heavier weight, he'd be stronger. He does reverse wrist curls too, for looks
nismoz31turbo 2 years ago
semy just isnt as good as he used to be
raikkonen85 2 years ago
This really impressed me until I saw John Brzenk flash Semerenko so fast it didn't even seem real. Tim Bresnan and Taras also beat Semerenko. now they are great pullers, too, but what happened to Semrenko almost pinning John at 1 time in his life to getting dominated by John and Denis, anybody know?
HandelandJ 3 years ago
great 5
kravmagiczka 3 years ago
thats my guy Cyplenkov check my video hes on there
chalbi08 3 years ago
The guy on the left is huge! Just look at his enormous biceps and shoulders. Arm wrestling him would like me being a child arm wrestling. He would have an easy victory!
bf6067 3 years ago
60cm in biceps so u know... pretty much huh:P
Demo02101988 3 years ago
Huge! And the other guy is no small wimp either!
bf6067 3 years ago