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  • my car shakes at stop lights when hold the brake in gear? is it a going torque converter or fluid needs to be changed?

  • @jasonmangal that normal. just put it in neutrial if it bothers u

  • @jasonmangal

    It is the torque converter...I had the same problem. Starts shaking when applying the brake when coming to a stop. The shaking begins when it gets close to 10 mph upon deceleration. Then shakes when taking off at stop lights when releasing brake and beginning to accelerate. mczest is correct just put it in neutral it will not do it then.

  • turban?? ffs, its tuuuuuurrrrrrrbbbbbbbbiiiiiiii­iiiinnnnnneeeeeeeee!

  • я всё понял

  • The inside stater/spline hooks up to a one way baring not clutch correct? Im not trying to knock you I would like to know for myself , always learning ;)

    Really informative video dude!

  • Edokun91

    it's turbine fool

  • who would have thought there's a turban in a torque converter

  • this is why automatics suck.

  • Super low quality video so that I could not see the detail. Waste of time.

  • worst explanation ever.

  • went and got a smog check done on my car....failed because of the check engine light....they said the fail was because of a torque clutch converter being stuck...does anyone know what this means???

  • @kurojin97 It means you need to UN-STICK your torque converter's turbine.

  • @kurojin97 yeah you need to get rid of the epa and anyone who made the regulation check engine light on means no go. torque converter being stuck is not a safety or emmssions problem, it's nothing more than another government money grab.

  • I have a mercedes A210 Evo its automatic using a torque converter it wont go up hills i was wondering do you think it could be the torque converter or something else someone pointed out my valve body but Im not so sure.

  • @welshfluteplayer the converter is bad

  • Been driving a long time, mostly manuals, but as I get older I find myself operating GMs 4 speed automatic, so I figure I'd learn how they work. Interesting the terms of the torque converter, many the same as a jet engine. A lock up converter is about the only thing left to make this good, but somewhat inefficient transmission better.

  • @kolbpilot And by that I mean, my Hydramatic 4L60E is equipped with a lock up convertor, the last trick (other than additional gearing) for these type of transmissions.

  • Could you explain the difference between "solid steel" and "not solid steel"? You say its made from "solid steel" I didn't know they made things such as "hollow steel"? you should really think about what you say before you say it. if you are going to be making videos explaining how things work you need to know what exactly you are talking about.

  • @ghettobraden

    Why are you being an ass? He was trying to emphasize how strong/heavy it is. Nobody cares.

  • @Screamn4444 not all torque converters weigh that much there are smaller ones.

  • @ghettobraden Well the casing could have a hollow centre, a solid steel sphere would have steel all the way through, where as a hollow sphere would just be a shell.

  • No flywheel on an auto tranny, Flexplates are for torque converters, and flywheels are friction surfaces for clutch discs.

  • #1. There is not a flywheel attached to the engine and torque converter, it is called a flex plate. flywheels only exist in manual transmission applications.

    #2. Any modern car with an auto tranny and overdrive no longer uses this type of converter, new age cars use locking converters so essentially you are learning how converters worked 30 years ago.

  • Is the ATF in the torque converter constantly renewed with the ATF in the tranny? Or is it independent?

  • Why are there so many components to an automobile? Is it so more companies can make money?

  • @ptevans01 people are willing to pay more to not have to do things themselves (for example shifting gears/working the clutch) and the torque converter is the easiest way to accomplish that

  • ..You should maybe mention you had to cut that puppy open.. and that torque converters are sealed units that are welded solid, some poor fool is gonna be trying to pry open his TC

  • The more I learn about A/Ts, the less willing I am to associate with them. Manual transmissions are the way to go.

  • I dont understand, why do you need a torque converter on an AT? why cant the fly wheel just directly spin the planetary gears?

  • the torque convert gives u a stall speed. until the engine speed gets up to a certain rpm the engine wont transfer power to the transmission. It does this so it doesnt stall the engine like stopping a car and not pushing the clutch. I wish there was a good animation on how the insides work.

  • @forpipla ok, thank you for that, but just wondering, why arent torque converters used on manual trannys? or why arent the traditional pressureplate+clutch disc is used on automatic transmission?

  • @pcbb01 BANG... first gear.... BANG!!! second gear.... SLAM! next gear... something to do with that ;-)

  • @dvdk87 ok get your point, nice sfx man hehe

  • @dvdk87 thanks

  • haaha, that looks famililar, i just tore a trany out of a for, four bolt pattern and its swollen as you can see

  • @Brianiare A car wouldn't need a torque converter. (With a maunal transmission there's no need of any of that.)

    However, big vehicles, such as buses and trucks, especially the ones that stop and start a lot of times (such as urban buses) , need a very powerful torque at low speed. (And a regular clutch does not give you that torque).

    My english is not very good but I hope you understood.

  • чё за херня?!

  • Is it just me or does this guy sound like Mr. Rogers?

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  • @Soundgarden8497 he also says 'Turban' alot instead of Turbine. Made me think of a sikh's head gear.

  • my car revs high but wont go over 80ks much, it hates hills so is my converter buggered?

  • hey!! plase....this torque coverter is to a old cars? like impalas...so i would like to know if this parts open in two parts? or you cut this one?

    thanks a lot

    alex brazil

  • this is a terrible way of explaining it

  • this is very similar to my balls.... they weigh about 40 lbs.

  • @TheSpook187 ...i'd have that seen to by a doctor dude!!!

  • also can you people talking about manual transmissions fuck off? this is a torque converter discussion page.

  • I still have no idea how a torque converter works

  • @Whiteyy191

    Watch this, Its german, but it explains itself when you watch it.

    /watch?v=9OiZkTdCJY0

  • the complicated technology we have to come up with to accommodate the "masses" who dont know how to shift

  • This guy's voice is friggin' one-tone and boring! -___-

  • Turbin! Wear it on your head!

  • is that how an engine can turn without the wheels turning constantly?

  • Thanks for the video. Luckily I don't generally see these. I really don't want to. I don't want to see my piston heads or crankshaft either.

  • If I were king , I would ban Hiddenhorses . Ha

  • horrible eplanation

  • Its turbine not turban!

    

  • @hiddenhorse101 Maybe he's an Arab.

  • if i was king i would ban automatic trans

  • this guy bored the shit out of me ... god vid but he just draged it on

  • can't you turn torque into speed and back with 2 different sized gears?

  • Manual Transmisson is lighter , car engine consumes less fuel with manual , and Manual transimisson is hard to fuck up.

  • Gives new meaning to "Riding on Gas & spinning on fluid.."

  • Гидротрансформатор, такая простая штука, и не надо никаких дисков сцепления.

  • @AutomaticTransaxle КПД ниже чем у дисков сцепления

  • @hydrogenix

    Зато нагрузка на двигатель меньше. И не заглохнешь в начале движения.

    И на больших скоростях гидротрансформатор обычно блокируется.

  • @AutomaticTransaxle блокируется, да. В остальное время он теряет энергию. Долговечность двигателя не связана с типом КП ибо водитель сам угробит движок прежде чем на это сможет повлиять коробка.

    У АКП главное приемущество - удобство

    в остальном, кпд (учитывая что сравниваемые авто водят не блондинки) и надёжность - АКП уступают ручным.

    Так было есть и будет есть :)

  • great presentation.one question for you,the transmission fluid(hydraulic fluid)does it have to be sprayed in the the torque converted for it to work.for example if the hole is plugged were the fluid enters to the converter and there is fluid left in there but cannot circulate to the transmission pan does the converter still fungtion

  • @radeshnarine As long as there is enough fluid in the converter it will operate. The only problem with that is the action of the fluid causes heat. If the fluid isn't circulated in and out of the converter, it will overheat and damage the converter.

  • so am i to understand that not every car has a torque converter?

  • @bn37inf only auto, manual has a clutch instead. oh ya theres DSG (dual clutch) auto too now which is an auto with 2 clutches instead of a torque converter and is the fastest shifting and most efficient auto I believe.

  • @bn37inf only automatic transmission cars

  • I still cant believe that slinging oil manages to make everything behind the engine and all the load on the vehicle move.

  • @FelixTheHouseFreak by the time the engine comes under any load from the transmission the oil's already stored a massive amount of energy in the flywheel so when you drop it in first gear or drive it has plenty of momentum to keep turning.

  • its not a turbin- its not indian

    ITS TURBINE (TUR-BINE... BINEEEEEEEEEE)

    jesus christ

  • @Bamchucknorris turbin so shut the fuck ujp!!!!!! amg

  • hidraulic tramsmition

  • cant you just say oil-pressure clutch? to easy?

  • just wanted to point out that there is no such thing as a centrifugal force.

    there is no force that acts outwards

    however what people are confused with is that when fluid, in this case, is rotating in a circular motion, the fluids line of action is a straight line, and therefor acts tangential to its circular path. what stops it from actually continuing in a straight line is the casing. this provides a force (acceleration) inwards which in fact is cenTRIPITAL force.

  • @muratcoban123456789

    You're a fucking moron. Did you seriously just say that there's no such thing as centrifugal force? In the case of this video CENTRIFUGAL force is what's going on with the fluid. The fluid is wanting to flow OUTWARD which is CENTRIFUGAL. Centripetal is inward force you idiot.

  • @CoChicken1337 the simple mided always think their right. go read an engineering book fuk head. its not an outward force. its a force trying to keep the fluid from traveing in a tangential.

  • @muratcoban123456789 Correct. Amazing really. That's the internet for you, you get insulted for being right. Good stuff.

  • @CoChicken1337 There is no centrifugal force, only centripetal force and inertia.

    The "centrifugal force" is only apparent to an observer inside the reference frame.

    Imagine sitting in a merry-go-round on a seat with chains. You'd feel an apparent force that is pushing you outwards, but in fact this is just the effect of the chains constantly forcing you onto the circular path.

    Cutting the chains would send you flying tangetially, not radially, because there is no force away from the center.

  • @globefish23~ "centrifugal MOTION"

  • @CoChicken1337 And: Please get your facts straight before insulting people as "fucking morons". That makes you look really, really daft.

  • @CoChicken1337 muratcoban is correct. 

  • @CoChicken1337 Centrifugal force is imaginary or illusory. There is no force outwards. There is momentum to go straight and centripetal force preventing this and causing the turn.

  • @dorbie Centrifugal force is real, it is the force that is opposite to centripetal. Newton's Law and all.

  • this is optimus prime's shoulder

  • @TheShnag optimus prime's anus

  • @sz42781 lolololololol

  • i think he made messed up with turbine n pump..... interchanging their names ?.... oh ......

  • Good lord, I have never even looked into these... no wonder they fail so often, just so much that can fail.

    Makes me glad I converted my Z to manual :|

  • @thedothedew

    If you like manual transmissions, but you like the convenience of an automatic, try the DSG transmission found in Audi or VW cars. I have a DSG and it rocks and does NOT have a torque converter.

  • Ahhh! It doesn't mount to the "flywheel". It mounts to the "flexplate". Flywheels are for manuals lol. Other than that great video! :)

  • @justin39640 Automatics have flywheels too.

  • @tbdk87

    No they have flexplates. A flywheel is a heavy piece that spins with the engine with a machined surface to engage the friction disk of the clutch (kind of like a brake rotor). A flexplate in comparison also spins with the engine but is lighter often with holes in it to make up for the weight of the torque converter. People referring to a flexplate as a flywheel is more slang not technical.

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  • @justin39640 Seems like u were trying to soun like a know it all, but alas you're right.

  • @justin39640 lol your fuckin dumb

  • @omgweeeeeee

    Before you call people "dumb" in a public, you should have full understanding of the words "your" and you're"...

    It's "you're" AKA "you are".

    With that I have a strong feeling that you've never actually researched this. Maybe you should. Google "flexplate vs flywheel"

    TY goodnight

  • @justin39640 or maybe this is the internet and its faster to type your while still conveying the same perfectly understandable message

    P.S. YOUR FUCKIN DUMB

  • @omgweeeeeee

    You think you would have tried the second time around...

    This has to be the stupidest reply I've ever received on the internet. You would have been better off not responding. Now you look like a liar and a moron. HA!

    Yeah and you're still wrong about a flexplate vs a flywheel. TYVM

  • @justin39640 lmao you call my reply stupid, i have no fucking clue what you are talking about... what exactly should i be trying the seond time around? liar and a moron? please explain

  • Good job on the explanation and vid

  • so it is like a hydraulic pump going to a hydraulic motor?

  • @drewb1994 short of

  • sooooo... where do you insert the ketchup and mustard?

  • mon..no..tone....

  • manual transmission ftw

  • @snowman4839

    It Depends. The Acceleration is way better with AT. I order a Coffee in the next Shop before you even released the clutch... Just my two cents ;D

  • @snowman4839

    It's used along manual transmission in heavy construction equipment to allow quick change of direction of movement, ie. a wheel loader.

  • Why can't it have just a clutch connected to a computer so it moves depending on the engine load. Clutches weight is much less saving fuel.

  • @Slaterking2010 they have tried that expeamentaly in the like 50s i think with the power glide lol it didnt work out so well wouldnt go far without needing a clutch

  • TURBIN HAHA

  • that is really cool, I always wondered how they worked! thanks

  • It must cost a lot to manufacture converters, with all those vanes and everything...are they machined? From a casting, or a forging? How close to the tolerances need to be, and how exact does the design of the vanes need to be? Like their angles and curves and stuff? If you bent each vane a fraction of an inch, would it really fuck things up? LOL, sorry, those are all just things that popped into my head when I watched this...I know how they work, I just never thought of how they make them!

  • Its An Automatic Car I Have It In My Extremly Cheap Car

  • Well you kind of blew it explaining the stator. If there is no stator then it's a fluid coupling. The stator is what makes it a torque converter. At high rtational differences between the engine and transmission the stator redirects the flow about 90 degrees to for the oil to delivery more force to the spun (tranny) side impeller. Hence is converts speed of the engine side to force or torque on the tranny side. My '91 F350 4x4 had 348K when I finally had to change the tranny.

  • I agree  he failed to explain why it's called a torque converter. The stator redirects fluid coming off the turbine back towards the turbine.

  • @RobiSydney You fucking redneck.

  • biggest problem is the friction material wearing off the brake bands and internal wet clutches, turns the tranny fluid brown and smelly

  • That's really interesting. Thanks for posting this :>

  • flywheels are for stick shift transmissions automatic transmissions have flexplates

  • Ok video but need to Call the parts by their proper name and the stator redirects the fluid for TORQUE AMPLIFICATON ! what 40lbs that would depend on make and modle as a transmisson rebuilder I see them from about 20 to 100+ lbs still pretty good video in all

  • If it wasn't for automatics my poor grandmother wouldn't be able to drive.

  • old people and women are the majority of people who crash. soo give your grandmother a ride instead of letting her drive

  • say that to guys who have dragsters...

  • nottt... a stick shift the clutch goes out at about 70,000.. automatics usually last longer unless its a dodge auto.

  • soo? clutch goes, buy a new one, install. and u go ride. i do my own clutch changes and it takes about 100 bucks and 2 hours max. broken auto trannys (which they break ALOT) cost waaayyyy more than 100 bucks and to find one in good condition...good luck :) ur better off making is standard

  • i agree a clutch is easier and cheaper blah blah.. but i dont think an automatic is bad.. i have an automatic the transmission was rebuilt before i got the car at 46,000.. im not sure what happend.. i didnt get it rebuilt. the lady did.. but i have about 30,000 on the rebuilt tranny.. i like it. its pretty nice.. i drive my friends standard all the time and it is fun..

  • standars are great. people ask me if i ever get tired and i say no. hills dnt bother me, neither do traffic jams, i just tell them in not lazy ;)

  • i do like standards. but sometimes if your tired or somthing i think it's just nice to hop in start up the car and hold the break and put it into drive. i recently learned how to drive standard and im not the best on hills yet, but im starting to get them pretty good...

  • @ilagbad When I was a kid, you could get a clutch replaced for about $175. The parts are still pretty cheap, but it takes so much labor to get to it now that a typical clutch job is $1500. If you have a lot of time and like to work on cars, that doesn't matter. If not, at least a automatic is covered by the extended warranty. I would expect a manual clutch to be counted as a "normal wear item".

  • @lrd9999 yeh manuals just have so much other shit that can go wrong lol screw tht shit!!!

  • take it from someone whos had quiet a bit of cars, autos no matter what will not last longer the 110k miles and thats if you live in an area which it doesnt snow, if you live in say canada like me be happy if it makes it to 100k. every auto ive ever owned was either rebuilt, swapped or slipping. just wait you have 30k on your rebuilt i give you another 40 and its slipping.

  • Not really.. it depends how you treat the car and how its been treated and where you live.. and if you maintain the tranny. my brother had a Toyota with 150,000 and it never slipped or anything.. it all depends.

  • My F-150 has 130,000 miles on it with the original transmission. The truck is 10 years old and has pulled countless 7,500 pound trailers... Best thing is, zero slip in the trans. AND on top of that my girlfriend slammed the truck in reverse while she was doing 35 mph. Still runs like a charm. The F-150 automatic trannys are tough as nails.

  • idk man you guys are very lucky to have lasted so long with auto's idk if its just the weather we have and the fact that there soooo much wheel spin in the winter times that just heats up and burns out the clutch packs but were i come from unless your auto isnt awd it doesnt last past the 120k mark. only point i wanted to get across and ill make it clear here is that autos when they fail and they will cost a shit load more then changing a clutch thats why i drive stick now.

  • @briant2828 My 98 Audi A6Q has close to 200K miles on it w/ the original tranny.

    My other Audi had over 263K miles on the original clutch.

    It's all in the quality of vehicle you purchase.

    There are exceptions, but you get what you pay for.

  • @imquattro It's also how you drive. I've gotten 150K miles out of a clutch in a Datsun Pickup and I've gotten 2K out of a clutch in a Corvair - Don't blow your double clutches!

  • respectfully the only way I can think of why Winter driving would be hard on an automatic, is when some1 gets really violent on rocking the vehicle back & forth trying to get unstuck, heavy on the throttle slamming the tranny into gear before momentum has stopped. simple well spin isn't going to damage them.

  • @briant2828 So why is it that my 94 bravada has the original factory transmission and engine in it and its still going just fine, it has 130k miles on it. oh and i live in michigan with lots of snow.

  • lol you fail

  • well then how do you explain my truck with 220,000 miles with the original tranny and torque converter.

  • @tooseevideo do you get the truck serviced?

  • @serridgeas yes i do. always.

  • @tooseevideo if its a GM Turbo 350 or 400 I believe it, good tranny all the ford and mopar guys who race switch to a GM tranny right away but everyone uses ford rearends

  • @327yellow well i have a 98 toyota 4runner. and it also sees regular off roading

  • @327yellow as long as theyre not the 4l60e tranny theyre great for any application but the 4l60 is a pos slush box, ive got one in my truck and im switchin to 4l80e asap. Anyway i dont see the huge advantage of the ford rear end over the gm 12 bolt, the ford is 9 inch the gm is 8.75in.

  • very intresting video guy.

    thanks.

    thom.

  • One thing he did forget is that the stator's main purpose is torque multiplication at low rpms, when autos first came out they didn't have a stator & it was just called a fluid coupling & very slow off the line. I know what thats like when the one way clutch went in the stator of my truck.

  • RIGHT ON glad someon added that about the stator! I am a transmission rebuilder  It would be nice if he call all the parts by thier proper name too.

  • Why not use a centrifugal clutch?

  • Wouldn't be as effective. Would work, but it would put stress onto the motor compared to the torque converter.

  • Oh, ok.

  • it would not last 400.000 km

  • unless u engineer a centrifugal clutch to be reaaallly close to the flywheel, you would have to rev the engine high enough for the clutches to engage. wouldnt be as efficient

  • This is awesome!What a great video! Great presenting! This is a pretty good video,i love it ,bravo!! Thank-you very much for sharing that.

  • isn't it this damn inefficient !? :-/

  • Yes, but on plow trucks, and simular vehicles it prevents the truck from stalling if It bights off more than it can chew.

  • please people go to school and actually listen this dumb ass doesnt even explain it clsoe to what the maps or ase certification classes tell u dip shit

  • Nice explanation. i worked rebuilding them when i was 18, 10 years ago. you should make a video on high stall torque converters, ppl always asking me about them.

  • nice vid. would have been col if you used one from a modern transmission, oh one made in the last 50 years

  • excelent explanation, now everything's clear. Thanks

  • Nice video, thanx for the learning experience. The good thing about torque converter is you don't have to worry about clutch lining wearing out. I learned that torque converter can be damaged too, by overheating of fluid, and extremely high rpm. It is a very ingenous invention.

  • auto sucks manual ftw

  • what about DSG? lol, gotcha

  • szutsg, In a automatic transmission there is a pump that is driven by the engine at all times. The pump provides pressure to the transmission to shift gears and to the torque converter. When you let off the gas at 55 mph the pump slows down with the engine. The transmission kick into a "coast phase", sort of like pushing in the clutch and letting the car coast. The transmission and the torque converter work together. The torque converter works a lot like an centrifical clutch. Not like a manual

  • Damn what kind of fluid does a torque converter use...Gotta be some thick shit...not like it runs on water...maybe toothpaste..

  • it uses tranny fluid

  • and obviously it is very dense right...meaning its thick fluid?

  • no, the fluid is actually very thin!.... almost like water.

  • well, thicker than water, about as thick as oil...or power steering fluid. There pretty much the same except transmission fluid has detergents in it to clean out the transmission.

  • what wears out first or mostly with this type of fluid transmission????

    Is there any loss of power after many many miles with this system and if so, what is the most common reason???

    I'm from the Netherlands so excuse for bad/wrong writings!

  • the gears wear first. if you pull the dipstick and the transmission fluid is grey(its supposed to be red), its because theres so many metal shavings from the gears in it.

  • So it does exist! Wow, that's a relief. It's basically a frictionless clutch. Before i thought that cars with manual transmissions use this for clutch. It was a great disappointment to find out that stick shift uses lame "slipping" clutch. So why not to use this for manual transmission? Car wouldn't stall anymore, and you wouldn't need to worry about wearing off your clutch plates. Can you control strength of coupling with this method?