Theme from Star Trek" (originally scored under the title " Where No Man Has Gone Before ") is an instrumental musical piece written by Alexander Courage
I keep on forgetting how great the score to this film really was. I don't think The Wrath of Khan would have been half the film it was if it weren't for this. If this were composed in the 1800s instead of the 1980s, it would almost certainly be considered one of the great examples of the romantic symphonic poem.
In his "Movie Memories" book, Shatner says when he first listened to the score, it was "Horatio Hornblower in space". Very nautical indeed. Horner's score made a good movie great. I never get tired of it.
By the book? KIRK By the book! Regulation Forty-six-A: 'If transmissions are being monitored during battle...' SAAVIK ...no uncoded messages on an open channel...' Saavik steps out in front of Spock. SAAVIK (continuing) You lied. SPOCK I exaggerated. KIRK Hours instead of days, Saavik. 154 INT. ENTERPRISE CORRIDOR 154 KIRK Now we have minutes instead of hours - Saavik and Kirk follow Spock. they stop at a Turbo
I think this movie is so well regarded because it took the series back to a much more nautical setting. It FEELS like you're in two ocean going sailing ships.
dont give me 2009 made more money than any of them, largely because of the amount of theatres and the amount of people are not taken into account when comparing film grosses. of course with more theatres and larger population newer movies will make more money, alot of times star power and a terrific trailer will bring people to a movie, not because its good.
@alanfunkle i agree with most of what your saying, and honestly if you dont like Star Trek 6 score thats cool, everyone has different tastes. I think the Trek films definitely take a dive after 6, although I enjoy some of them, they are not memorable like the Wrath of Khan. what I dont get is how Goldsmith went from scoring The Motion Picture to Insurrection and Nemesis. the music is probably the best thing in TMP, while its horribly bland in the newer movies. Trek 11 was ok, music was mediocre
@nonamebrand0 its right behind the original star wars and empire strikes back for me lol. huge star trek and star wars. i think voyage home was true until the 2009 reboot sadly as the top moneymaker(I refer to 2009 as the micheal baying of star trek lol) despite liking some of the cast (quinto/urban/pegg and the kid who played checkov) i thought it was pretty horrid. I didnt mind 4's score, I prefer star trek 1-4 and first contact.
@alanfunkle i liked Eric Bana as Nero,but they barely used him. and why did the Romulans have tattoos all over their faces?when have we ever seen that before in Trek?
Kirk listens to the Beastie Boys?! gimmie a break...
And the engine room was a freakin' brewery! Arg!
I didnt hate the movie,but that might be because my expectations were insanely low.It did take some balls to blow up Vulcan,ill give them that.But the music doesnt stick with me like the Klingon theme from TMP or the score of WOK.
@nonamebrand0 i'll say that the reboot was better than some of the tng movies and star trek 5 and 6 for me but not as good as 1-4 or first contact. i loved lost except for the ending and my biggest complaint about trek is they always try to action up the movie wich is why all the series failed and got weak (except for classic,tng and ds9 wich are my pics), star trek used to be socialy relevant, abrams micheal bayed it and made it for 13-24 year old non star trek action scifi fans.
@alanfunkle except the Star Trek 6 is my 2nd favorite Star Trek movie, I completely agree. Star Trek 11 could have been worse though, they could have made it a Voyager and/or Enterprise movie, directed by Braga.
@nonamebrand0 aye, lololol. enterprise was a huge dissapointment, despite being a scott bakula fan. voyager i grimaced through.I really wished they would have though instead of star trek 11 done something based on enterprises temporal wars and had a series/movie based on time travel with them visiting different star trek shows and having guest stars from all different shows, that would have appeased alot of fans instead of chucking them off for annoying 13-24 year old reboot fanboys lolol.
@nonamebrand0 i saw brent spiner at shatners roast on comedy central (very funny btw), his hair is almost all white now lol. theve all gotten old. i would have rathered even an all cgi star trek with vioces from the original cast like final fantasy style and different guest stars. gotta love data and spock <3
@nonamebrand0 aye agreed. the tng tv shows music was terrific and they didnt take the tv shows music wich is a great deal of why the movies sucked. the only alternative scored star trek ive liked is first contact.
@nonamebrand0 yep generations was my star wars episode 1 for star trek lol. although star trek 11 comes in a close second lol. loved the score for first contact but still prefer the original or preferably star trek 2's score. just a well edited movie.
@alanfunkle I honestly dont know what Trek 11 took in, but I have always believed that Voyage Home was the biggest moneymaker (taking into account inflation and those other factors you mentioned). Anytime I ask people if they've seen a Trek movie (not including the new one), they almost always say "The one with the whales".
@nonamebrand0 i recently googled stat trek 2009 (11) and was shocked to see someone mention it was the top star trek grossing movie, i guess it beat voyage home. people arent taking into acount amount of theatres and population expansion though lol.
star trek 2 should be THE THEME for all of star trek. I hated the score for 2009's soundtrack with a passion. The star trek franchises didnt start to suck until 5 when they removed horner's original score (4 started watering down). music is 89% of a tv show/movie. tng brilliantly had the music in thier tv show and thier movies sucked because they removed the music (except for first contact).
@alanfunkle I think Undiscoverd Country has an amazing score, the best non-Horner score of the whole series. Cliff Eidelmann did a great job of capturing some of the best qualities of Horner's scores without coping what he did.
@nonamebrand0 ehe not me lol. although i did like it more than 2009's utterly horrid score. all these sequel franchises tank largely for removing music and studios cant figure out why they do so badly. when you put new music in you might as well just make a different movie, it completley disconnects. a terrific sequel feels like an extra 2 hours of the original film, dropping music disconnects that.
@nonamebrand0 look at movies like jaws, psycho and especialy the friday the 13th movie series wich was made on its music (the 13th would be a horrid D movie without its woods scha scha music). music is just as important as an character in a movie, it sets the tone and mood for the film.
Oh, good greif! That scene where the Enterprise takes that phaser shot on the broadside STILL makes me draw a sharp intake of breath. I have all the movies on DVD and this is still one of the most played. : )
@BetaFett, you're word is still better than my made up word, operasicity? (Ouch!) : ))
What a great video! Thank you, thank you, thank you! It brings back wonderful memories. I saw TWOK as a child with my mother when it came out and we both absolutely loved it. Since then I have watched the film around 20 times and the music is certainly one of its highlights. Even my mother (not a big Star Trek fan) still remembers it. The soundtrack is wonderfully complex and totally exciting and emotional. In my opinion it's one of the finest symphonic soundtracks ever written.
I saw this the day after it opened in 1982. I was Blown Away that Opening Weekend.
I was stunned by the fate of Captain Spock by what he did to Safeguard the ship and crew. i was in awe of Admiral Kirk in how he commanded his Vessel which was and always has been his. The Knights Took us out for an Adventure once again...
Horner did an excellent score for Star Trek III but the one for II was better. I really hope they bring him back for the next two sequels to score because he knows what he is doing!
In the score to Aliens, Horner definitely quotes himself with a motive from Wrath of Khan... Aaaaah, I love this movie. This one and ST VI will never be surpassed when it comes to Trek.
@CaptainFootos Yeah - check out when the dropship lands before the climatic final battle, it directly quotes when Reliant is on a countdown to self destruct, albeit in a darker mode. I agree that 2 and 6 had the best Trek scores of all.
The pressure of the JBL THX sound system at the Empire at 0:58 seconds was unexpected the score was going mildly nuts with clear screen LCR localization and surrounds enveloping around with awesome ability. Subs you couldnt tell when they come in because the Empires Dolby JBL THX was so perfectly professionally aligned.
Most of the screen fronts are working hard!
The jolt as Khan says "FULL POWER!" LOL that was felt like truck just hit the side of the Empire!
You where! Im just reflecting on what I experienced that day. I was chatting to one of the projectionists who along with friend projected that day and thanked him on facebook. He has youtube account.
I was describing more of the technical side that the Dolby preamps for 70mm was part of the experience and we know THX is set of standards to extended the sound further. Its the pack of Dolby electronics that does most of the work and the crossover and amps.
I see youre only 24 and well those days of grand 70 six-track discrete are now long faded into the film sound history books. Youd be lucky to catch a 70mm of Star Trek today very rare prints and very lucky to hear them as they are the true 5.1 analogue mixes of there day.
You may have heard that two subs is better! Well this is true because it fixes room nulls balances out the sub bass! Three even more better 4 wow 5 wow wow 6 and 6 WOW! Or 16 MEGA WOW! It doesnt mean play it so it overwhelms the rest of the mix! They extended and tighten up the lose ends of nulls and yes doubles the SPL db but it has to be lowered to play smoothly along with the stage LCR fronts.
Thats more or less what Empire had at the time was x8 18 JBL 4645 subs for the sub bass track on 70mm and used for sub bass extension on Dolby A/SR to extend the lows further down the frequency scale. I only have two subs in the home and getting it even equal takes an RTA and frequency generator to produce a graph that I can see where the nulls are! and then fix it with second sub where the be fewer nulls!
Yaaassss! Horner's back on form in Avatar--even his little four note signature 'Danger!' motif (the one that creeps up in the Project X pulse reactor scenes quite a lot) makes a comeback...
Not quite on top form to match his ST2/Krull/Aliens form, but better than he's been for years.
I have the CD album havent seen Avatar yet as it was expected to go to Empire but ended up in non-THX cinema Odeon Leicester Square where the Dolby soundtrack will not be given full justice. I must have heard many of his past scoring works popping up in Avatar, hey I cant help if Im listening!
I never realised how incidental James Horner's stuff is; it compares to John Williams' use of incidentals, wheras I always thought he was more thematic like Basil Poledouris' work.
Brilliant stuff though; on a par with Williams' Star Wars stuff for sheer space operatic....er, ness. (is that even a wordd...?:p)
oh man, Basil doesn't even compare to horner. the man's had some fine tunes but he can barely hold a film and his soundtracks are really hard to listen to outside of the films their in
I think we have to agree to disagree about your reply; Conan was the first Orchestral OST I ever bought and still regularly listen to.But that wasn't really my point--my point was about Horner taking cues from the images, whereas I thought his music was a seperate thematic entity that complemented the imagery, rather than punctuated it. It wasn't a comparison really, just an observation. Still brilliant though I do think Horner's past his best. Here's hoping Avatar's score will prove me wrong :)
Horner relies more now on computer's and such, while this is all pure orchestral. I think his day's of making masterpieces like this are over though. It comes with age, when he was younger he had more fresh idea's and such, which is why some other of his score's may have similarity from other scores etc. He is old, and like us when we get old, you just don't put as much effort into your work as you did when you were young. However i am sure he tries the best he can. Can't wait for avatar!
James Horner had a way to make space sound very dangerous, the music even makes it very scary, and it's thx for star trek II which i watched over and over as a kid in which i LOVE instruments.
I recently was watching the Star Trek III Special Edition DVD and looking at the back of the case, framing the special features part are words in Klingon that i've never noticed before. If someone out there has same DVD and knows the language can you tell me what it all means?
The score for 'Krull' was great, but I think this takes the cake. The layering of each character's different theme makes the score so rich. It's like a ballad of good versus evil.
That would be too sweet! (I mean in a cavity-inducing sugary goodness type of sweet.) A nod to this film's score in the new upcoming sequel's soundtrack would be---and you know what word I'm going to use...it is a staple of YouTube--AWESOME!!!!
Is there still a way to get a hold of this as a CD. I love listening to soundtracks like this during long car rides. I have the latest and it's pretty good. Can't touch this one though.
Horner did a wonderful job with this score. He took the reins beautifully from Goldsmith, who eventually took them back, they just worked so well off each other to create Trek Music. Love this stuff. What a great job.
Great Szene....I´ve got the original Soundtrack on Lp of it...it thits perfekt to the movie. Great stuf...but hear and there i miss the voices...for example "what is working around here...." "noz much admiral...we have partial main power" "best that could to in 2 houres"
One of the great strengths of this sequence is that the crew was put in the worst situation by Khan, then Kirk and Spock come up with a brilliant plan to turn the tables on Khan, but you don't know it until this scene, and its really the musical score that indicates this.
Love this movie, it`s the truest expression of Star Trek, I love Star Trek 4 too! but that movie was for everyone to enjoy, both Fan`s and everyone else.
Oh, and like how "The Empire Strikes Back" is still the best after all of the Star Wars movies that followed, "The Wrath of Khan" is identical to that well-made film. It is the king of the eleven movies that were made over the years; it's the one that can't be topped...ever! And that's including the new one.
I wish Horner would have scored the new Trek film. (Hell, Bryan Singer left in William's main theme in "Superman Returns." so why couldn't Horner be able to do the same?) The new film's score was lackluster at best...tepid...limp...pallid...totally unmemorable. Even as I watched it this weekend in the theater, I wished they just temped Horner's score into it. It would have improved the movie tenfold.
I disagree on the lackluster comment. i thought his approach was very much in league with horner. certainly not as emotionally driven, but certainly memerable. i find myself humming the new theme constantly. i also think superman returns was let down by the 're-cycling of williams'. but fair points nonetheless
James Horner is AMAZING! John Williams and James Horner are the best. THE BEST! Also up there with them are Jerry Goldsmith and James Newton Howard. YEAH!
yes i heard that friend....one of the best on screen bad guys of all time....r.i.p. ricardo....khan will live forever in a this movie classic....will will never forget khans wrath...lol
I don't see how anyone could rip off that much music so publically without someone speaking up. He either had proper licensing and/or permission from the original copyright holders or made enough changes so as to avoid infringment. And you didn't say who he ripped off with the music in "Commando".
I agree with a lot of the criticism that Horner tends to get pretty lazy. Repeating a lot of his themes in his many scores, the four-note motif he CONSTANTLY uses for danger, etc. With that said, I regard his music like an omlette when it's paired up with the film. Sure, there's nothing new in the ingredients, no surprises in what it's made of. But the skill of the cook determines whether it's gonna be good, or fall apart. Horner's always cooking omlettes, but he makes a tasty one.
1:57 , my favorite part of the musical score in this movie. Such a great film, timeless, I think it solidified my love for Star Trek. R.I.P. Ricardo Montalban
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I agree...best movie score ever.
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I agree...best movie score ever.
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I agree...best movie score ever.
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I agree...best movie score ever.
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This is the best Star Trek movie hands down.
thejerr1 1 month ago
Theme from Star Trek" (originally scored under the title " Where No Man Has Gone Before ") is an instrumental musical piece written by Alexander Courage
jcshep26101 1 month ago in playlist Star Trek
Sauce for the goose mr. Saavik. The odds will be even.
captaint1000 1 month ago
This film and music blew my mind when I was just 6 years old.
kajompa 2 months ago
i just got a goosebump overload
March6371 3 months ago in playlist Star Trek
@UNITEWAD James Horner is still alive and still composing music for films. One of his latest was Avatar.
patuxent78 4 months ago
Epic Stuff,, R'I'P James Legend.
UNITEWAD 5 months ago
I don't like to lose.
Epic.
CaptainJahangir99 6 months ago
James Horner is GOD!!!
sammy2trees 6 months ago
Always liked the lietmotif for the Reliant under Khan's command.
Johntoxable 7 months ago
One of Horner's early and best scores for the trekkies out there lol
No1vertigofan 8 months ago
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Introducing the actual stage 1 "genesis device" (see at leadman22 channel called "The Infinity Device").
leadman22 8 months ago
I keep on forgetting how great the score to this film really was. I don't think The Wrath of Khan would have been half the film it was if it weren't for this. If this were composed in the 1800s instead of the 1980s, it would almost certainly be considered one of the great examples of the romantic symphonic poem.
NemoMentisson 9 months ago
Two people need seti ells put into their helmets!
dkseaverns1 9 months ago
When im watching this movie and listening to the music of James Horner i'm like a 10 year old child!
Best Trek Movie and Music ever!
basterd84 10 months ago 5
@basterd84 do you know who did the music for the original 1969 series? or where i can get it?
wrathallll 2 months ago
In his "Movie Memories" book, Shatner says when he first listened to the score, it was "Horatio Hornblower in space". Very nautical indeed. Horner's score made a good movie great. I never get tired of it.
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Utubetrekk 1 year ago
This is one of my all time favorite movies and I'm going to see it this FRIDAY NIGHT ON THE BIG SCREEN
mrbobbyh 1 year ago
this was the best soundtrack from all the movies. Enterprise clears the moorings is my fav.
gaelenfade 1 year ago
Did Starfleet utility budget get cut back that they had to wear jackets as part of their ship uniform after years of j ust wearing pullovers?
LovingScrubbies 1 year ago
I think this movie is so well regarded because it took the series back to a much more nautical setting. It FEELS like you're in two ocean going sailing ships.
YoungGarrett 1 year ago
Holy crap, this movie is 28 freaking years old already!
LovingScrubbies 1 year ago
dont give me 2009 made more money than any of them, largely because of the amount of theatres and the amount of people are not taken into account when comparing film grosses. of course with more theatres and larger population newer movies will make more money, alot of times star power and a terrific trailer will bring people to a movie, not because its good.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@alanfunkle i agree with most of what your saying, and honestly if you dont like Star Trek 6 score thats cool, everyone has different tastes. I think the Trek films definitely take a dive after 6, although I enjoy some of them, they are not memorable like the Wrath of Khan. what I dont get is how Goldsmith went from scoring The Motion Picture to Insurrection and Nemesis. the music is probably the best thing in TMP, while its horribly bland in the newer movies. Trek 11 was ok, music was mediocre
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@alanfunkle Wrath of Khan is my favorite movie of all time by the way.
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 its right behind the original star wars and empire strikes back for me lol. huge star trek and star wars. i think voyage home was true until the 2009 reboot sadly as the top moneymaker(I refer to 2009 as the micheal baying of star trek lol) despite liking some of the cast (quinto/urban/pegg and the kid who played checkov) i thought it was pretty horrid. I didnt mind 4's score, I prefer star trek 1-4 and first contact.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@alanfunkle i liked Eric Bana as Nero,but they barely used him. and why did the Romulans have tattoos all over their faces?when have we ever seen that before in Trek?
Kirk listens to the Beastie Boys?! gimmie a break...
And the engine room was a freakin' brewery! Arg!
I didnt hate the movie,but that might be because my expectations were insanely low.It did take some balls to blow up Vulcan,ill give them that.But the music doesnt stick with me like the Klingon theme from TMP or the score of WOK.
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 i'll say that the reboot was better than some of the tng movies and star trek 5 and 6 for me but not as good as 1-4 or first contact. i loved lost except for the ending and my biggest complaint about trek is they always try to action up the movie wich is why all the series failed and got weak (except for classic,tng and ds9 wich are my pics), star trek used to be socialy relevant, abrams micheal bayed it and made it for 13-24 year old non star trek action scifi fans.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@alanfunkle except the Star Trek 6 is my 2nd favorite Star Trek movie, I completely agree. Star Trek 11 could have been worse though, they could have made it a Voyager and/or Enterprise movie, directed by Braga.
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 aye, lololol. enterprise was a huge dissapointment, despite being a scott bakula fan. voyager i grimaced through.I really wished they would have though instead of star trek 11 done something based on enterprises temporal wars and had a series/movie based on time travel with them visiting different star trek shows and having guest stars from all different shows, that would have appeased alot of fans instead of chucking them off for annoying 13-24 year old reboot fanboys lolol.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 i saw brent spiner at shatners roast on comedy central (very funny btw), his hair is almost all white now lol. theve all gotten old. i would have rathered even an all cgi star trek with vioces from the original cast like final fantasy style and different guest stars. gotta love data and spock <3
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@alanfunkle it boggles my mind though, how Goldsmith can go from making the TMP soundtrack, to doing the score for Nemesis.
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 aye agreed. the tng tv shows music was terrific and they didnt take the tv shows music wich is a great deal of why the movies sucked. the only alternative scored star trek ive liked is first contact.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@alanfunkle First Contact was another Goldsmith score, and easily the best of the TNG movies
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 yep generations was my star wars episode 1 for star trek lol. although star trek 11 comes in a close second lol. loved the score for first contact but still prefer the original or preferably star trek 2's score. just a well edited movie.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@alanfunkle I honestly dont know what Trek 11 took in, but I have always believed that Voyage Home was the biggest moneymaker (taking into account inflation and those other factors you mentioned). Anytime I ask people if they've seen a Trek movie (not including the new one), they almost always say "The one with the whales".
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 i recently googled stat trek 2009 (11) and was shocked to see someone mention it was the top star trek grossing movie, i guess it beat voyage home. people arent taking into acount amount of theatres and population expansion though lol.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
oh, and you did an amazing job matching up the music with the scenes
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
this music is permanently stuck in my head
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
reboots, remakes and tv to movies need to stop dropping original music, its become worse than replacing actors.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
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alanfunkle 1 year ago
first contact is the only alternative score ive liked. hail star trek 2 :)>-
alanfunkle 1 year ago
star trek 2 should be THE THEME for all of star trek. I hated the score for 2009's soundtrack with a passion. The star trek franchises didnt start to suck until 5 when they removed horner's original score (4 started watering down). music is 89% of a tv show/movie. tng brilliantly had the music in thier tv show and thier movies sucked because they removed the music (except for first contact).
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@alanfunkle I think Undiscoverd Country has an amazing score, the best non-Horner score of the whole series. Cliff Eidelmann did a great job of capturing some of the best qualities of Horner's scores without coping what he did.
nonamebrand0 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 ehe not me lol. although i did like it more than 2009's utterly horrid score. all these sequel franchises tank largely for removing music and studios cant figure out why they do so badly. when you put new music in you might as well just make a different movie, it completley disconnects. a terrific sequel feels like an extra 2 hours of the original film, dropping music disconnects that.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
@nonamebrand0 look at movies like jaws, psycho and especialy the friday the 13th movie series wich was made on its music (the 13th would be a horrid D movie without its woods scha scha music). music is just as important as an character in a movie, it sets the tone and mood for the film.
alanfunkle 1 year ago
This is brilliantly edited by the way. Well done.
ElevenDestinys 1 year ago
If I'm not mistaken, that's James Horner walking through the hallway at the 2:06 mark of this scene.
sesin97 1 year ago
Kistie Alley était assez sexy dans ce temps là.
xMazingerZ 1 year ago
Oh, good greif! That scene where the Enterprise takes that phaser shot on the broadside STILL makes me draw a sharp intake of breath. I have all the movies on DVD and this is still one of the most played. : )
@BetaFett, you're word is still better than my made up word, operasicity? (Ouch!) : ))
LoriCiani 1 year ago
kewl I like the scores
MrShadowknight2000 1 year ago
God Bless
cfromcass 1 year ago
What a great video! Thank you, thank you, thank you! It brings back wonderful memories. I saw TWOK as a child with my mother when it came out and we both absolutely loved it. Since then I have watched the film around 20 times and the music is certainly one of its highlights. Even my mother (not a big Star Trek fan) still remembers it. The soundtrack is wonderfully complex and totally exciting and emotional. In my opinion it's one of the finest symphonic soundtracks ever written.
slightlygrouchy 1 year ago
I saw this the day after it opened in 1982. I was Blown Away that Opening Weekend.
I was stunned by the fate of Captain Spock by what he did to Safeguard the ship and crew. i was in awe of Admiral Kirk in how he commanded his Vessel which was and always has been his. The Knights Took us out for an Adventure once again...
Roadracer987654321 1 year ago
the best film and film score of all the ST movies - and up there with Horner's best (alongside Braveheart and Legends of the Fall for me.
CaptainOatwright 1 year ago
this is one of the best pieces for a movie of this type ever.
it really sets the mood for the entire piece!
cflisthebest 1 year ago
No doubt in my mind this guy has scored the two top highest grossing films of all time...the music makes the films he scores!
nova423 1 year ago
I love you for this upload! Thank you very, very much!
Donnergeier 1 year ago
"There she is! There she is! Ah, not so wounded as we were lead to believe.... So much the better!"
Great lines... This is by far the BEST of the Star Trek Movies, not counting the 2009 version.
ftorresgamez 1 year ago
Horner did an excellent score for Star Trek III but the one for II was better. I really hope they bring him back for the next two sequels to score because he knows what he is doing!
gfedtyhfs 1 year ago
James Horner's music is fantastic in this and III.
DJsStratoArt 1 year ago
EXCELLENT!!!!!! Can't wait to watch part 2!
Starbuckin 1 year ago
EXCELLENT!!!!!! Can't wait to watch part 2!
Starbuckin 1 year ago
In the score to Aliens, Horner definitely quotes himself with a motive from Wrath of Khan... Aaaaah, I love this movie. This one and ST VI will never be surpassed when it comes to Trek.
CaptainFootos 1 year ago 17
@CaptainFootos Yeah - check out when the dropship lands before the climatic final battle, it directly quotes when Reliant is on a countdown to self destruct, albeit in a darker mode. I agree that 2 and 6 had the best Trek scores of all.
Scratch47 1 year ago
2:33 best CHORD EVER!!!!!!!!!!
talleyho12 1 year ago
errr what?
badboy10ize 1 year ago
that last DaDAAA!! and you see the enterprise from the back
talleyho12 1 year ago
What?
badboy10ize 1 year ago
@badboy10ize 2:36
talleyho12 1 year ago
errrrrr ok. I'll look at it.
badboy10ize 1 year ago
you might even say that score held the whole movie together.....
Samrezzal04 1 year ago
The pressure of the JBL THX sound system at the Empire at 0:58 seconds was unexpected the score was going mildly nuts with clear screen LCR localization and surrounds enveloping around with awesome ability. Subs you couldnt tell when they come in because the Empires Dolby JBL THX was so perfectly professionally aligned.
Most of the screen fronts are working hard!
The jolt as Khan says "FULL POWER!" LOL that was felt like truck just hit the side of the Empire!
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
i wish i was there !
talleyho12 1 year ago 2
You where! Im just reflecting on what I experienced that day. I was chatting to one of the projectionists who along with friend projected that day and thanked him on facebook. He has youtube account.
I was describing more of the technical side that the Dolby preamps for 70mm was part of the experience and we know THX is set of standards to extended the sound further. Its the pack of Dolby electronics that does most of the work and the crossover and amps.
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
I see youre only 24 and well those days of grand 70 six-track discrete are now long faded into the film sound history books. Youd be lucky to catch a 70mm of Star Trek today very rare prints and very lucky to hear them as they are the true 5.1 analogue mixes of there day.
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
You may have heard that two subs is better! Well this is true because it fixes room nulls balances out the sub bass! Three even more better 4 wow 5 wow wow 6 and 6 WOW! Or 16 MEGA WOW! It doesnt mean play it so it overwhelms the rest of the mix! They extended and tighten up the lose ends of nulls and yes doubles the SPL db but it has to be lowered to play smoothly along with the stage LCR fronts.
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
Thats more or less what Empire had at the time was x8 18 JBL 4645 subs for the sub bass track on 70mm and used for sub bass extension on Dolby A/SR to extend the lows further down the frequency scale. I only have two subs in the home and getting it even equal takes an RTA and frequency generator to produce a graph that I can see where the nulls are! and then fix it with second sub where the be fewer nulls!
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
Arriving at adulthood, his hands like. Enjoy this movie @ MovieWatcher (dot) US
leannekiblerfa 1 year ago
wow, nice
rookitchen 2 years ago
Horners best work.
dvarblo 2 years ago
Yaaassss! Horner's back on form in Avatar--even his little four note signature 'Danger!' motif (the one that creeps up in the Project X pulse reactor scenes quite a lot) makes a comeback...
Not quite on top form to match his ST2/Krull/Aliens form, but better than he's been for years.
BetaFett 2 years ago
@BetaFett
I have the CD album havent seen Avatar yet as it was expected to go to Empire but ended up in non-THX cinema Odeon Leicester Square where the Dolby soundtrack will not be given full justice. I must have heard many of his past scoring works popping up in Avatar, hey I cant help if Im listening!
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
dammit! now im going to be humming music from st2 for weeks!
this is my favourite movie score ever, st3 and st6 are great too.
nonamebrand0 2 years ago
James Horner Rules! XD
DaddlerTheDalek 2 years ago
I never realised how incidental James Horner's stuff is; it compares to John Williams' use of incidentals, wheras I always thought he was more thematic like Basil Poledouris' work.
Brilliant stuff though; on a par with Williams' Star Wars stuff for sheer space operatic....er, ness. (is that even a wordd...?:p)
BetaFett 2 years ago 6
oh man, Basil doesn't even compare to horner. the man's had some fine tunes but he can barely hold a film and his soundtracks are really hard to listen to outside of the films their in
timefilm 2 years ago
I think we have to agree to disagree about your reply; Conan was the first Orchestral OST I ever bought and still regularly listen to.But that wasn't really my point--my point was about Horner taking cues from the images, whereas I thought his music was a seperate thematic entity that complemented the imagery, rather than punctuated it. It wasn't a comparison really, just an observation. Still brilliant though I do think Horner's past his best. Here's hoping Avatar's score will prove me wrong :)
BetaFett 2 years ago
Horner relies more now on computer's and such, while this is all pure orchestral. I think his day's of making masterpieces like this are over though. It comes with age, when he was younger he had more fresh idea's and such, which is why some other of his score's may have similarity from other scores etc. He is old, and like us when we get old, you just don't put as much effort into your work as you did when you were young. However i am sure he tries the best he can. Can't wait for avatar!
Replicatorz 2 years ago
@timefilm Conan's score kinda trumps this score, actually. With or without the context of the film.
Bagheadman 3 months ago
James Horner had a way to make space sound very dangerous, the music even makes it very scary, and it's thx for star trek II which i watched over and over as a kid in which i LOVE instruments.
Replicatorz 2 years ago 7
yeah he does a good angry
timefilm 2 years ago
@timefilm Yes, most definitely he does angry, and I truly think he does mystifying just as well - often at the same time...
neutronbastard 1 year ago
well he DID do the music for Aliens as well as Trek, so it makes sense, he also uses some of the same musical cues.
Perion 2 years ago
Incredible! always have to come back to this score once in a while
His Best
joeylodes 2 years ago
The best Trek score, maybe my favourite Horner score full stop. Still feels original on repeated listenings compared to other scores. So rich.
Bondek1996 2 years ago
I recently was watching the Star Trek III Special Edition DVD and looking at the back of the case, framing the special features part are words in Klingon that i've never noticed before. If someone out there has same DVD and knows the language can you tell me what it all means?
OneCrazyWolfman 2 years ago
The score for 'Krull' was great, but I think this takes the cake. The layering of each character's different theme makes the score so rich. It's like a ballad of good versus evil.
MGUNC54 2 years ago
James Horner makes me jizz in my pants! (I won't apologise, that's just absurd).
Scratch47 2 years ago 2
Almost as good as the music he composed for Krull. :3
Strideo1 2 years ago
The Best!
ZumbaFitPrincess 2 years ago
James Horner needs to be brought back for the next sequel or just this theme again
prunofour 2 years ago 8
That would be too sweet! (I mean in a cavity-inducing sugary goodness type of sweet.) A nod to this film's score in the new upcoming sequel's soundtrack would be---and you know what word I'm going to use...it is a staple of YouTube--AWESOME!!!!
clericjack 2 years ago
I thought you were going to use "epic". If any word's a staple of YouTube...But I overuse it myself, so whatever :)
JoeSnyderwalk 2 years ago
or john williams not the guy they had in the new movie! the score was terrible!
tonytarheel55 2 years ago
How can you find the soundtrack for this movie, it's impossible to find!!!
bubthegreat1 2 years ago
gimmie an email address and ill send it to you in parts! :)
concept3d 2 years ago
I got it, thx :)
bubthegreat1 2 years ago
The music of this movie always gives me goose bumps. James Horner is not appreciated enough.
LawyerScumGhost 2 years ago
I agree. His score for the movie Krull is one of my favorites!
chieflookout76 2 years ago
man, the 80s had the best movies...the score to Aliens was awesome as well
LawyerScumGhost 2 years ago
A damned fine piece of music, all hail JH!
TheCharlie359 2 years ago
FULL POWER! DAM YOU!!!
goblinman7 2 years ago 2
Full power damn you! a classic line in truth!
ourmanthejoker 2 years ago
Uh Oh!
VanhaKarvanaama 2 years ago
The Wrath of Khan Complete Score is being released by Film Score Monthly. Hopefully Star Trek 3 isn't far off!
Force170 2 years ago
For those that are interested the name of this track is "Battle in the Mutara Nebula"
MattDobson 2 years ago 3
at 2:14 the guy on the right with the wand-like thing is James Horner
meye0022 2 years ago
Is there still a way to get a hold of this as a CD. I love listening to soundtracks like this during long car rides. I have the latest and it's pretty good. Can't touch this one though.
boondocksaint76 2 years ago
Horner did a wonderful job with this score. He took the reins beautifully from Goldsmith, who eventually took them back, they just worked so well off each other to create Trek Music. Love this stuff. What a great job.
cassiebrite 2 years ago
Great Szene....I´ve got the original Soundtrack on Lp of it...it thits perfekt to the movie. Great stuf...but hear and there i miss the voices...for example "what is working around here...." "noz much admiral...we have partial main power" "best that could to in 2 houres"
Deanbabylon 2 years ago
LOCK PHASERS ON TARGET!
walterm140 2 years ago
Kirk: "Tactical, Uh-oh!"
Spock: "She can still outrun us and outgun us, but there is the Mutara Nebula, 153.4."
MarcR2006 2 years ago
the odds will be even
timefilm 2 years ago
Spock: "Reliant is slowing."
Kirk: "Uhura, patch me in.."
Uhura: "You're on, Admiral."
Kirk: "We played it once your way, Khan. Are you game for a rematch?"
"Khan. I'm laughing at the superior intellect."
MarcR2006 2 years ago 4
One of the great strengths of this sequence is that the crew was put in the worst situation by Khan, then Kirk and Spock come up with a brilliant plan to turn the tables on Khan, but you don't know it until this scene, and its really the musical score that indicates this.
erentheca 2 years ago
Exellent!
struggle4all 2 years ago
You lied?
I exaggerated.
Love this movie, it`s the truest expression of Star Trek, I love Star Trek 4 too! but that movie was for everyone to enjoy, both Fan`s and everyone else.
Thank`s for the memory`s.
garleec 2 years ago
Kirk: "Hours instead of days."
"Now we have minutes instead of hours."
MarcR2006 2 years ago
RIP Senor Montalban. May Arnold Vosloo fill your shoes well for this role.
SEMAT56 2 years ago
no way! Cosimo Fusco
timefilm 2 years ago
i just googled him, and i must say Cosimo would be better as khan. way better. haha
SEMAT56 2 years ago 2
he was in angels and demons. soon as i saw him i was like "omg... KAAAAAAHN!!!"
timefilm 2 years ago
That shot of the Enterprise leaving Regula is just beautiful!
phantassm 2 years ago 2
Khan and the USS Reliant Kicked Ass But Kirk and USS Enterprise always rocks!
RMSTitanic87 2 years ago
Horner captured the feel of Star Trek and space adventure perfectly! He has no equal in this regard.
Cobopolies 2 years ago
Fantastic tribute to one of the best scores ever. RIP Ricardo.
Rolandzebub 2 years ago
Oh, and like how "The Empire Strikes Back" is still the best after all of the Star Wars movies that followed, "The Wrath of Khan" is identical to that well-made film. It is the king of the eleven movies that were made over the years; it's the one that can't be topped...ever! And that's including the new one.
clericjack 2 years ago 3
I wish Horner would have scored the new Trek film. (Hell, Bryan Singer left in William's main theme in "Superman Returns." so why couldn't Horner be able to do the same?) The new film's score was lackluster at best...tepid...limp...pallid...totally unmemorable. Even as I watched it this weekend in the theater, I wished they just temped Horner's score into it. It would have improved the movie tenfold.
clericjack 2 years ago
I disagree on the lackluster comment. i thought his approach was very much in league with horner. certainly not as emotionally driven, but certainly memerable. i find myself humming the new theme constantly. i also think superman returns was let down by the 're-cycling of williams'. but fair points nonetheless
timefilm 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
wheres the whole movie at?
rinoldkirk 2 years ago
James Horner is AMAZING! John Williams and James Horner are the best. THE BEST! Also up there with them are Jerry Goldsmith and James Newton Howard. YEAH!
elpresidio 2 years ago
Jerry Goldsmith and this guy James Horner are the best music commposers. Well John Barry is cool too.
chopperpilot5 2 years ago 4
I know he ripped off Benjamin Britten in Predator. It's from his Sinfonia da Requiem.
dobyboby 2 years ago
Alan Silvestri did the score for Predator.
d112cons 2 years ago
good call.
dobyboby 2 years ago
Predator was 86. Star Trek II was 82.
jmaley3 2 years ago
i think its impossible for me to love this film any more than i do i watch it every day and im still not bored of it
Thegooddr09 2 years ago 3
agreed!
THE trek film
with THE score!
joeylodes 2 years ago
.....dadadadaddadadaddadadadadadadadad
deleelldddlleledleleldeleldleldleld
deiedidiieidieidieidddieidiei.......
Great
Kaspersche0815 2 years ago
The success of the critically acclaimed Star Trek 2 can be partly attributed to its remarkable score.
TheEqualizer1972 2 years ago
I still say greatly. You only need to watch trek 4 to see how lacking that film is without Horner breathing its voice.
timefilm 2 years ago
Agreed.
joel1975 2 years ago
R.I.P. Ricardo Montalban.
Khan forever!
spoonmonkey14 2 years ago 4
yes i heard that friend....one of the best on screen bad guys of all time....r.i.p. ricardo....khan will live forever in a this movie classic....will will never forget khans wrath...lol
slimithy12 2 years ago 3
Ricardo may he rest in peace he played Khan and did a perfect job!
RMSTitanic87 2 years ago 3
horner is only second to john williams when it comes to musical storytelling. he knocks this score out of the ballpark
hateoprah49 2 years ago
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LOL horner is a music hack. that is why he doesn't get the A directors anymore, THEY all know he steals!!!
UFOSPACE1999 2 years ago
There's more to being a good soundtrack composer than originality. Horner's work, when coupled with the whole movie experience, rivals the classics.
Just like Williams.
phanky1010194 2 years ago
Hello????He wrote "My Heart Will Go On". The single biggest movie music hit of all time.
gorn9146 2 years ago
Yeah i know he copied that music from ENYA and HIS own Braveheart. The Academy People have cotton stuck in their ears, THEY don't know better.
UFOSPACE1999 2 years ago
Okay, what about his work on "Commando" or "Aliens"? Who's work did he ripoff there?
gorn9146 2 years ago
jerry goldsmith's alien and stravensky and countless of other classical composers. yep the man is a thief.
go listen to TROY there is someone who posted his music that he stoled from someone else.
how bout Glory's ending he stoled that also. HE is a fucking thief.
UFOSPACE1999 2 years ago
I don't see how anyone could rip off that much music so publically without someone speaking up. He either had proper licensing and/or permission from the original copyright holders or made enough changes so as to avoid infringment. And you didn't say who he ripped off with the music in "Commando".
gorn9146 2 years ago
If anyone wants to turn on a composer for theft make it Andrew Lloyd Webber - that little 3rd rate plagiarist!
shakeyphil 2 years ago
I agree with a lot of the criticism that Horner tends to get pretty lazy. Repeating a lot of his themes in his many scores, the four-note motif he CONSTANTLY uses for danger, etc. With that said, I regard his music like an omlette when it's paired up with the film. Sure, there's nothing new in the ingredients, no surprises in what it's made of. But the skill of the cook determines whether it's gonna be good, or fall apart. Horner's always cooking omlettes, but he makes a tasty one.
d112cons 2 years ago
I couldn't have put it any better myself. And it's very tasty omlette indeed.
OneCrazyWolfman 2 years ago
if the new star trek film is even half as good as this film then we are in for treat this may
madmartin101 3 years ago 3
big if. this movie here is very hard to top.
Gawaine687 2 years ago
i agree but still any film half as gd as this is worth watching cos this film is pure magic
madmartin101 2 years ago 2
1:57 , my favorite part of the musical score in this movie. Such a great film, timeless, I think it solidified my love for Star Trek. R.I.P. Ricardo Montalban
lastpatriot1776 3 years ago
100% agree. the man made magic
timefilm 3 years ago
bEST CUE of the whole movie is when Enterprise comes up behind Reliant
CalgarSkull 3 years ago 3