I would like for muslims to explain in the Hadith; written by numeous clerics how a man of God (Allah) could marry 7 yr. old Aisha ( his friends daughter), then have sex with her at age 9? How he forced women including christian and jewish women to marry him after killing their families? Mohammed is not a true man of God.
The Prophet (pbuh) was performing the MOSAIC law as required by him since he has no right to change any previous laws (Torah and Gospels) of previous Messenger without a command from God. The law was then ABROGATED and CHANGED the adulterer has to flogged as stated in Quran Surah al-Noor verse 2.
Story of Islam: A crazy, insecure and horny man named muhammed creates 'allah', an imaginary friend. His imaginary friend tells him it's OK to murder people that make fun of him, marry and fuck little 9 year old girls, have slaves, demand submission and kill the Jews/infidels. So muhammed preaches evil and gathers up other asswipes and starts 'islam', where more and more crazy, insecure and horny men use the excuse of 'allah' to fuck children, rape, beat, terrorize & murder the infidel.
Also please make sure to not put any cartoon image of the prophet""
Lawyers call this pettyfogging. You just don't want to hear the accusations in the comment that Islam is brutal and inhumane. The images of the prophet have nothing to do with stoning people.
THere is no punishment of death by stoning in the Quran but there is a criteria which requires you to produce 4 witnesses to the adultery & if you fail to do so you are deemed a liar therefore the punishment is largely academic emphasizing the serious sinful nature of the act. Stoning for adultery comes from Hadith 200+ years after the prophet purporting to evidence the prophets actions & sayings thru a chain of hearsay / rumours / gossip/ slander which the Quran itself condemns BTW !
This whole game called Islam has one purpose: to maintain the power of the ruling clergy. A baby born out of wedlock (through adultery) becomes less controllable and more difficult to indoctrinate in the madrassahs. It's the mullahs that come up with the idea of stoning to discourage such behavior.
@aristopus stoning is only for the married person or gay,80 times whiping for adultary with out marriage get your facts right just because a lot of people see that adultary is ok does not make it ok
@2paclove2 How about fucking a little 9 year old girl like muhammed did? How about keeping and fucking slaves like muhammed did? How about murdering women like muhammed did? THAT is REAL evil!
Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116
"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."
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Its only the fornicators and adulterers who cry out against punishing people who cheat on wives/husbands and committing adultery. So them demonizing Islamic law is laughable and is something i`d flush down the toilet. I would not mind being punished according to Islamic law if I cheated on my wife. I would be damaging my family,wife and children`s wellbeing and society in general. Me living harms others. A fundamental part of Islam is to makes sure your right does not harm other`s rights.
I hope the idiots here know that the same punishment applies to men who commit adultery in Islam. And this is the punishment for extra marital sex-cheating, not adultery.
Look, muslims have very strong and bonded family relations unlike non religious communities. The muslims know and experience this in their families and I doubt adultery will ever be accepted as a norm by the general muslim communities. Even if you ask a muslim who has commited adultery, won`t accept it as a right but immoral.
I thought allah is powerfull but why he has to command people to punish those sinner? why not by himself?..... in christianity Jesus Christ is the only way . he gives you life... not death .... he gives you unconditional forgiveness.... even the last minutre of the life of a sinner can be forgiven... because Jesus Christ wants all his sheeps to be found not to be punished..
this is a hadith a man made forgery for political reasons in order to control the masses ,, HADITH AND SUNNAH ARE NOT ISLAM ,, try to find such stories in the quran ,, THE QURAN IS FREE FROM THIS NON SENS
@murggik first of all i think you mistake me for being muslim, im just giving credit where its due. who translated those books so we could read them, muslim scholars! who invented algebra? a muslim. you clearly show yourself as a willfully ignorant biggot, and clearly any further discussion with you would be pointless.
@leshark A muslim invented algebra. Big deal! Is that the only thing that doesn't include rape/murder that can be credited to islam? Muslims have definitely perfected the art of torture, murder, rape and lying, I'll give you that. They are also the most vile when it comes to the treatment of women. Why don't you evil people catch up to the rest of the world. This is the age of intelligence and compassion. Your passions for an illiterate pedophile is medieval and has no place in today's world.
Muslim:17:4207:Imran b.Husain reported a woman from Juhaina came to Prophet(sws)&she was pregnant bc of adultery.she said:yaRasulilah,"Ive done something which Punishment MUST BE IMPOSED UPON ME,so IMPOSE IT"..l8tr Umar(ra)said:ya Rasulilah,u offer prayer for her,she had committed adultery! he said:She has made such a repentance that if it were to be divide it among 70men of Medina,it would be enough.Have u found any repentance better than this,tht she sacrficed her life for Allah,the Majestic?
1. More people are killed by MUSLIMS EACH YEAR! Than in ALL 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition COMBINED!
2. Muslim Terrorists murder more people every WEEK than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 YEARS.
3. More civilians were killed by Muslims in TWO HOURS on September 11th than in the 36 YEARS of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
In April 2009, 761 people were killed by islamic militants. Since Sept. 2001 there's been over 14,427 terrorist attacks carried out IN THE NAME OF ISLAM!
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@BlyackTzeamCoup8 Its hard to argue with those statistics. Although most ahem..."ordinary" Muslims will say "Those people were not true followers of Islam". There is no way for people like this to be reasoned with. We should just leave tough it out for now and wait untill they have no more oil to sell America.
Islam does not teach stoning to death for adulterers.
According to The Holy Book Quran:
"The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment. [2:24] "
Do not blame Islam for what Muslims do, unfortunately most so called Muslims follow history books instead of the Law from God.
The Biblical Law commands DEATH for so many various acts: murder (Exodus 21:12), kidnapping (Exodus 21:16), bestiality (Exodus 22:19), adultery (Leviticus 20:10), homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13), being a false prophet (Deuteronomy 13:5), prostitution (Deuteronomy 22:4), and so many countless crimes.
ISLAM only has the death penalty IN ONLY 3 cases, as the Prophet Muhammad said clearly.
ADULTERY IN CHRISTIANITY (and other abrahamic faiths)
It reads in King James BIBLE, and in the New American Standard BIBLE.
" If there is a man who commits adultery with another man's wife, one who commits adultery with his friend's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to DEATH."
This is Christianity, the Bible - Adultery = Death.
The Prophet Muhammad stated clearly that the Punishment for committing RAPE is DEATH, and there is no sin on the victim, nor is there any worldly punishment ascribed to her!!
Islam and the prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon him was just , kind and merciful . He did not behave only upon the scriptures revealed to him by God and so Islam encourages us to spread peace and mercy on earth for all people . Unfortunately there are many so called Muslims that dont follow the prophetic tradition and best character .
Please make sure to read the true biography of the holy prophet and then you will fall in love with his noble and perfect character .
@NadiahBfromRomania there is absolutely nothing peacefull about isla , your prophet was a pedophile , your ancient sick cult teaches to lie and deceive the unbeliever , it teaches to kill the infidels without exceptions . there is only one islam not two , not three , only one islam that teaches to hate and kill , mohammedans are sick , shoulod be locked up
It sounds as if you are making excuses for the evil things he did. Stoning a mother to death for a mistake she made (or for being raped, we are not sure) is an evil thing.
@Minkki82 Well, he married a six year old and started fucking her when she was 9 years old.
Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old."
"Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116
"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."
@NadiahBfromRomania 'so Islam encourages us to spread peace and mercy on earth for all people .'
That's not what he said in the Hadiths or in the Koran. That's not how Muslims behave. Every word in the Koran comes directly from Allah and is literally true.
"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them." Sura 4:15.
@SheikhTaqiyyameister You are correct every word is from allah BUT those verses you gave are not from him dont add words please here is the original verse
(4:15)As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).
@SheikhTaqiyyameister can you see the difference? you added ''starvation'' you either getting your false verses from ppl who dont like islam or you are adding them..look at your verse and now look at my verse can you see the difference? aim getting those verses from the original translation..if you want to know anything about islam go read the real quran translation istead of those christian websites
I just want to kindly ask you dear sister / brother in humanity (Mind Masters) not to spread such invented happening narrated by unknown people and with no evidence to real historic events . Also please make sure to not put any cartoon image of the prophet , including this one in the video because it is really insulting .
@NadiahBfromRomania What do you think about muhammed fucking a little 9 year old girl as it says over and over in the hadiths? I think that a 53 year old man that fucked a 9 year old little girl deserves to be not only insulted, but lashed, stoned and jailed for life.
Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old."
the quran is not the only 1 that has stoning in it so dose the torah?????? well why isnt anyone talkig bout that and it says 2 be stoned 4 all sins not just adultery u ppl are fucked
May Lord forgive you for murdering human beings. Life is given by God and whoever takes other human being' life is severe punished. Your prophet commanded for the woman to be stoned, Lord Jesus saved a woman form stoning. That is the difference between Islam and Christianity: the tolerance.
tolerance are u joking me like the fucking tolerence with the crusades when u butchered and raped ur women the spanish inquisition tolerance when the christians invaded the new world neraly wiping out a race of people tolerance my fucking ass
How do u know God maid it??? who told you god made it??? to whom god told????how the god talked???? who is the god??? where is th god???? is it Allah??? I fuck that Allah!!!!
for ur info Allah is the arabic word for God and nothing else .
if u even believe in God then u should not throw such an insult ...and even if u happen to be atheist then consider that even though u many not believe in the existence of an Al -mighty God that does not mean God doesnt exist.
ur not serious , u want only to mock ...but tell me when u are serious and want to have an honest dialogue . i will them explain everything to u the best i can
My god is the creator who designed all creatures DNAs and organized life within 14.5 billion years after big bang...we are still investigating how he/she did that great job....I have no fear of god...I don't believe heaven and hell...that huge God's energy, and potental of life is everywhere...Everybody has right to love somebody from any religion and that girl did not do any thing wrong...Any religion who punish a girl for this is Evil religion!!!
as a muslim i wonder what if a woman commits adultery and the marries the man and becomes his second wife(for example)? and what is the punishment for for a man commiting adultery?
adultry in islam is 'haraam' (prohibitted). if it is commited by some one(male or female) who is un-married, he or she will face a punishment of 80 lashes.
if sinner (male or female) is married, the punishment is death till stoning. it is a superb law of Allah tht helps making a society neat and clean.
prophet muhammad said to all people................................this woman was the holiest mankind because she was comitted her fault............muhammed said that she was placed in heaven peacefully after her death............islam is peace.....
Which muslims claim it ain't? retard, I am proud it is part of islam, look at your swine cuntnry and you see millions of kids born without dads, if people are so careless and wish to spread corrupation that 4 wtness are able to see their scum like behavior then they should be made example out of.
not rly when u break the law things liek this happen what happens when u kill a person. you get thrown in jail back then and now if u have sex outside of mariage it is death that was the most dishonerable pathetic thing back then
you are another jahil, not knowing that the ayat was revealed, its nass abrogated but rule remain binded. First go and study quran and fiqh then come and talk. fabricated hadith my ...
Go study the real Islam, Islam is all tolerance it is people like you ranging from ( terrrorist Ben Laden to the terrorist new-cons who are trying to deface Islam). But you will never be able.
People like you will always look for questionable source and bring lies about Islam, Hadith that you guys resort to is Bullsh*t.
shit..I am Muslim and I say if Muslims countrie's are having bunch of excuses for this bihevior...screw them.Leave them in stone ages...If there is humanity, they should be hunting those which supprt this sort of whichcraft...If being Muslim is to do or support or be quiet in the face of this savage behavior I am Pinguin from now on.
YUSUFALI: And this (He commands): Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah's purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.
YUSUFALI: Do they then seek after a judgment of (the days of) ignorance? But who, for a people whose faith is assured, can give better judgment than Allah?
if ur a muslim then u should believe in the quran and i got that from the quran from soorat almaeda (chapter 5) .... thats all i can tell u ... u can say whatever u want but allah's word will be on top of everything
Stoning to death is a cruel insane Islamic punishment given to people who have sex outside marriage. This punishment was ordered by your "merciful" Prophet, who ofcourse was the messenger of the "merciful" Allah. If you are a Muslim & believe stoning is not a part of Islam: Congratulations! You have already partially apostated from Islam. Now you just need to complete your apostasy, & stop believing that Mohammed was a prophet of God. Being a humanist is a great alternative to being a Muslim
wow are u serious ly have a iq that low retard sex outside of marriage is ufcked how wouldu feel if ur husband or wife fucked another women well u wud want to basically kill him or be very upset this was law back then adultery= stoning just like if u kill a person now a days u will get lifei n prisons that law law is law maybe nexrt time hors like u shudnt do that
Islam is the least developped of all civilisations, it is absurd that anyone attempts to make any points against this fact. This is history, not opinions.
first of all islam is not a civilisation it is a religion... and secondly the west has a lot to thank islamic scholars, ranging from maths, philosophy, astronomy, geography, medical advances etc to name a few... without the translation of those islamic scientists works we wouldnt be in the state we are now... that is history,and a fact.
if God is going to punish me for the conclusions that the mind he created for me reached, I guess I can do nothing against that... something I wont do, is pretend to believe, while I don't
find one scientific mistake or one contradiction in the quran or any mistake you could get in this holly book and i will turn my back to this religion ... 1429 years still people couldn't manage to do that or even come up with a book like it .. or even prove it wrong ... every time people are discovering things and they find it there in the quran in details written from more than 1400 years ago and the only reason quran shouldnt be translated so that it doesnt change like the bible did over time
it is difficult to convince a true beliver that there are mistakes in there holy book because if one points out a verse with a clear mistake, they find al sorts of rationalisations, interpretational stretches, and applogetic gymnastics to explain it away and while ignoring the plain reading and known language conventions. Quran like the bible has many scientific errors which reflect its human origin.
• Earth created BEFORE the sky was adorned with stars (41.9-12)
• earth described with a dozen adjectives in Quran, all revolve around the meaning of flatness.
• Sun sets in a (muddy/dark) (well/spring). (18.86).
• Meteorites are fires thrown at "devils" to stop them from "listening" to heaven (37.7-10)(15.17-18)(72.8-9) consistent with pre-scientific superstitions.
in the quran god said that he taught him everything .... and he was a scientist and he used to wear clothes and the proof is that when he ate from that tree he treated to hide from god to cover his body cuz his clothes got burned ... he used to know things that the angels didnt know human have brain thats our gift everything in the quran is all about brain god is always talking to people who use their brains and its very scientific if u may have noticed..brain brain brain..think read and write
... he used to know things that the angels didnt know human have brain thats our gift everything...
I like to stay in one topic, btw I don't believe in Adam, angels and tree story, you are using Quran in your arguments while I don't believe in it devine origin.
alright lets put it that way ... have you seen the scientific verses in the quran ??? ... is there any chance a man would know these things 1400 years ago ? ... take a close look it not revolving around the point it is very specific verses that tells you things in details .. that'll make you a believer hopefully
see now we're getting to a point ... since it is not a good thing to do like it is something that'll break your heart islam tries to stop that and to make sure people never think of doing such a thing there r hard punishments like if you know ur gonna get stoned to death u will never cheat on ur wife and guess what there must be 4 witnesses and these 4 witnessess must see both people actually having sex not even kissing in order to stone them to death
4 witnesses means it is almost impossible to happen in real life to punish both offenders. but if a women gets pregnant and she does not have a present housband what happens then?? she gets stonned or lashed but the man offender gets away with it, that s why it is mostly women who get those punishments even thaugh it takes two to fornicate. sounds like injustice to me.
Why women get harsh punishment for adultery etc while islam allows men to fonicate freely with however many slave girls captured in battles or bought in the market without need for marriage??
it seems your religion is very biased towards men, which not surprising given that all main religions were made up by men.
what about the "broken hearts" of these slave girls and the wifes of those men? they don seem to have much voice in your religion
first of all she has to give birth and raise the baby to a certain age and if she tells the authority who did this to her they will punish him too so its not just women ... and guess what islam is the first religion to come up with women rights ... people used to kill their daughters or treat them bad and they consider them as a property islam dont
for example .. when two people get married the women takes the name of the husband ... in islam it is forbidden because the man doesn't own the woman ... and about slaves .. look at this way ... after wars there r slaves right ?? ... mostly women and most of these women lost their husbands and they dont force them to do such a thing ... but its all over now there r no slaves.... but u know if u want to learn more about islam let me know because you seem to have the wrong idea about some things
in backward middle age, yes but not necesseraly, what about freeing the prisoners or at least women and children after battles?
>> they dont force them to do such a thing
really? you thik a women whose father and brother and son have just been killed wants to have sex with their killer?? Plus that s not my point even, my point is these men are having sex with these female prisoners without mariage. how can you even try to defend that?
prisoners of war are still up to date there are still prisoners of war ... and when muslims used to go to war they go to war against the ruler only and who ever fights back the only point is to spread islam and if the country doesnt allow them to spread it they fight them so that they can spread it cuz everybody has the right to check this religion and learn more about it no one should stop that ... so they dont do it by force they just tell everybody and if anyone fights them they fight back
and these things r very unique and guess what when the prophet was given a slave woman mariah he let her free and then he married her .. but what the quran is saying if you can't get married like nobody wants to marry you or your not able to handle marriage and its costs then do it with ur slaves if they dont mind since you own them but man lets be realistic this thing had an end and it did end there r barely any slaves in this universe now what people do is torture prisoners of war
back then they used to treat them good and they feed them and they leave them with their religion and beliefs but they do ask them to convert nicely its not like they used to chop their legs like they used to do in the U.S....so you have to give it up for them they ... at least they dont let them work as prostitutes
>> when the prophet was given a slave woman >> mariah he let her free and then he married >> her
he took many women as slaves such as rayhana and safiya after he killed their housbands. some he married some he did not.
>> if they dont mind
can you show me where it says that in the Quran?? in islam you have the right to sleep with your wife or slave girl whether she likes it or not. it is considered a man's right, am I wrong??
there is nothing by force my man ... plus never forget that islam is the religion that brought women's rights to this planet .. back then people used to kill their daughers and feel ashamed of women and treat them bad ... and when a women's husband die the husband's sons take his money anddd his wife like her like any peny so dont you ever say that islam is only based on men.. there was no women rights before islam and thats a fact
the serbs raped and murdered our women n tried their best to exterminate our people from the face of bosnia........... what someone who defends those ppl has any right to talk.
Who defends them note me...But this crap is same line of work that Serbs did to Bosnians, no good man would be able to do it..Bad people ARE BAD PEOPLE REGARDLES WHICH RELIGION THEY BELONG TO, SO imadhurata LIVE SERBS OUT OF THIS, THIS IS ORIGINAL RECEIPE OF BROTHERS AND SISTERS (MORE BROTHERS)FROM EASTERN LANDS-AND UNFORTUNATELY LANDS DOMINATED BY MUSLIMS.
well from my understanding it is her word against his so unless she has witnesses he wont get punished.
>> people used to kill their daughters
islam might have been progressist ideology in those middle age times but not humanity has moved on from you cant keep comparing to middle age standards.
trust me in the end we're all human they were human and we r human so whatever happened back then is happening now trust me maybe u look at it in a different way look at it that way .... they had gays back then we have gays now ... they had prositutes we have prositutes now .. they had prisoners of war we have prisoners of war ... people r doing the same thing over and over again its not like we came up with new things .. we ride cars now they used to ride horses and camels ???
so0o0o0o tell me whats the difference between us and them ???? ... look at allllllllll ages human are human and the mistakes we do now they did before and the things they did before we're doing now .... history is repeating itself isn't it ??? .... dont be like those people who say that adam was barbaric and he was naked and he didnt even know how to communicate
you are missing my point, I did not say human nature has changed. All I said was that human standards should and have changed slowly to the better so we can't use past barabaric situation as a reference to say islam improved them, because standards have moved on.
people were given clear instructions not to do such things and if they do they will get punished and in that case they got what they deserve in life and god will forgive them for that sin.
and why do you think that the muslim society have the least amount of crimes ?
Are you looking for what can be on your side and help you out to commit your crime or are you looking for a fair punishment for those who commit crimes???
Tells me what's fair?
and what are we not supposed to do ?
if there shall not be any punishments lets go ahead and kill each other and cheat on each other and encourage gay marriage and make sure we do everything wrong if there is no law to stop these things.
why do you assume the alternative to middle age religeous barbaric laws is total chaos and anarchy??
We all agree there should be laws and punishment for crimes for a society to work. I just don,t see why the source of these laws should be a mythical books written by people of the desert more than a thousand years ago!!
I don't, I just don't see evidence to support claims made by people who say they know what God wants
>>and why do you think that the muslim
>> society have the least amount of crimes ?
Give me a break, Japan, singapoor, scandenevian coutries all have lower crime than both SA and Iran where people get harsh religious punishment. and they all have secular human laws.
first of all people do not represent god. people represent them selves. second of all who told u that Holy Quran was written by people. it was sent down to a prophet who cant read and write. its GOD's words, and it is impossible for a man to write whats in the quran. and if u need evidence i would be more than happy to show it to u and everybody
and by the way muslim society dont have alot of crimes thats just what you see on the news which is obviously one sided and no one seems to notice. WE DONT DRINK WE DONT GAMBLE WE DONT GO AROUND HAVING SEX WITH EVERYBODY WE DONT HAVE GAY MARRIAGE and i can go on for ever
and who ever does is a sinner and he doesn't represent islam because islam Prohibits these things and punish who ever attempts these things and since you agree on laws and why arguing ? how would you feel if somebody sleeps with ur wife ? if u dont mind then there is something wrong with u and if u mind then u shouldnt disagree
>>how would you feel if somebody sleeps with >> ur wife ?
this is irrelevent question, but if somebody sleeps with my wife, I will feel heart and angry, I most probably will devorce her and look for someone who loves and respects me, I am not going to stone her to death because this is barbaric in my view, you see things differently I respect your view but I dont share it.
I was talking about crime statistics provided by the countries themselves, and my point was that some other countries have lower crime rates then the most religeous muslim countries, I was simply answering your initial point about crime, let stick to one topic.
I would like for muslims to explain in the Hadith; written by numeous clerics how a man of God (Allah) could marry 7 yr. old Aisha ( his friends daughter), then have sex with her at age 9? How he forced women including christian and jewish women to marry him after killing their families? Mohammed is not a true man of God.
MrJgkeeling 1 month ago
I would have liked the idea of my husband being stoned.
HelloKitty281202 3 months ago
The Prophet (pbuh) was performing the MOSAIC law as required by him since he has no right to change any previous laws (Torah and Gospels) of previous Messenger without a command from God. The law was then ABROGATED and CHANGED the adulterer has to flogged as stated in Quran Surah al-Noor verse 2.
going2sleep 3 months ago
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Story of Islam: A crazy, insecure and horny man named muhammed creates 'allah', an imaginary friend. His imaginary friend tells him it's OK to murder people that make fun of him, marry and fuck little 9 year old girls, have slaves, demand submission and kill the Jews/infidels. So muhammed preaches evil and gathers up other asswipes and starts 'islam', where more and more crazy, insecure and horny men use the excuse of 'allah' to fuck children, rape, beat, terrorize & murder the infidel.
dominiquehoward 5 months ago
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Also please make sure to not put any cartoon image of the prophet""
Lawyers call this pettyfogging. You just don't want to hear the accusations in the comment that Islam is brutal and inhumane. The images of the prophet have nothing to do with stoning people.
aristopus 7 months ago
THere is no punishment of death by stoning in the Quran but there is a criteria which requires you to produce 4 witnesses to the adultery & if you fail to do so you are deemed a liar therefore the punishment is largely academic emphasizing the serious sinful nature of the act. Stoning for adultery comes from Hadith 200+ years after the prophet purporting to evidence the prophets actions & sayings thru a chain of hearsay / rumours / gossip/ slander which the Quran itself condemns BTW !
timetothink01 10 months ago 2
This whole game called Islam has one purpose: to maintain the power of the ruling clergy. A baby born out of wedlock (through adultery) becomes less controllable and more difficult to indoctrinate in the madrassahs. It's the mullahs that come up with the idea of stoning to discourage such behavior.
aristopus 11 months ago
@aristopus stoning is only for the married person or gay,80 times whiping for adultary with out marriage get your facts right just because a lot of people see that adultary is ok does not make it ok
2paclove2 8 months ago
@2paclove2 How about fucking a little 9 year old girl like muhammed did? How about keeping and fucking slaves like muhammed did? How about murdering women like muhammed did? THAT is REAL evil!
Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116
"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."
dominiquehoward 5 months ago
being muslim is just an excuse to kill people you don't like. all it is is a cult.
Zachzodia12 1 year ago
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Its only the fornicators and adulterers who cry out against punishing people who cheat on wives/husbands and committing adultery. So them demonizing Islamic law is laughable and is something i`d flush down the toilet. I would not mind being punished according to Islamic law if I cheated on my wife. I would be damaging my family,wife and children`s wellbeing and society in general. Me living harms others. A fundamental part of Islam is to makes sure your right does not harm other`s rights.
nofreedom4racists 1 year ago
I hope the idiots here know that the same punishment applies to men who commit adultery in Islam. And this is the punishment for extra marital sex-cheating, not adultery.
Look, muslims have very strong and bonded family relations unlike non religious communities. The muslims know and experience this in their families and I doubt adultery will ever be accepted as a norm by the general muslim communities. Even if you ask a muslim who has commited adultery, won`t accept it as a right but immoral.
nofreedom4racists 1 year ago
my ear !, the sound is unbearable !
Zralf 1 year ago
I thought allah is powerfull but why he has to command people to punish those sinner? why not by himself?..... in christianity Jesus Christ is the only way . he gives you life... not death .... he gives you unconditional forgiveness.... even the last minutre of the life of a sinner can be forgiven... because Jesus Christ wants all his sheeps to be found not to be punished..
aparach 1 year ago
criticizing Islam based on a hadith written by Bukhari?
hmm...if you wanna insult islam fine, but please at least
try using the quran its the only true guidance for the muslims,
or submitters in english...this is a weak insult
done out of hatred.
vashadik13 1 year ago
this is a hadith a man made forgery for political reasons in order to control the masses ,, HADITH AND SUNNAH ARE NOT ISLAM ,, try to find such stories in the quran ,, THE QURAN IS FREE FROM THIS NON SENS
sefroud 1 year ago
having a sexual affair with a muslim woman is great because she stays quiet while she fuks around.
fj1764 1 year ago
Mohamed was not only a disgusting Pedo, this shows he was bigoted murderer too.
dur80lei82lee86 1 year ago
@dur80lei82lee86 fuck you .. idiot
purple007haze 1 year ago
@murggik first of all i think you mistake me for being muslim, im just giving credit where its due. who translated those books so we could read them, muslim scholars! who invented algebra? a muslim. you clearly show yourself as a willfully ignorant biggot, and clearly any further discussion with you would be pointless.
leshark 1 year ago
@leshark A muslim invented algebra. Big deal! Is that the only thing that doesn't include rape/murder that can be credited to islam? Muslims have definitely perfected the art of torture, murder, rape and lying, I'll give you that. They are also the most vile when it comes to the treatment of women. Why don't you evil people catch up to the rest of the world. This is the age of intelligence and compassion. Your passions for an illiterate pedophile is medieval and has no place in today's world.
rayne68 1 year ago
Muslim:17:4207:Imran b.Husain reported a woman from Juhaina came to Prophet(sws)&she was pregnant bc of adultery.she said:yaRasulilah,"Ive done something which Punishment MUST BE IMPOSED UPON ME,so IMPOSE IT"..l8tr Umar(ra)said:ya Rasulilah,u offer prayer for her,she had committed adultery! he said:She has made such a repentance that if it were to be divide it among 70men of Medina,it would be enough.Have u found any repentance better than this,tht she sacrficed her life for Allah,the Majestic?
tigertm3 1 year ago
1. More people are killed by MUSLIMS EACH YEAR! Than in ALL 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition COMBINED!
2. Muslim Terrorists murder more people every WEEK than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 YEARS.
3. More civilians were killed by Muslims in TWO HOURS on September 11th than in the 36 YEARS of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
In April 2009, 761 people were killed by islamic militants. Since Sept. 2001 there's been over 14,427 terrorist attacks carried out IN THE NAME OF ISLAM!
BlyackTzeamCoup8 1 year ago
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@BlyackTzeamCoup8 Its hard to argue with those statistics. Although most ahem..."ordinary" Muslims will say "Those people were not true followers of Islam". There is no way for people like this to be reasoned with. We should just leave tough it out for now and wait untill they have no more oil to sell America.
mosquitoe4 1 year ago
this is another act of evil.those who made this advertisement should be kicked out from utube............
sylhetypolasab 1 year ago
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Islam does not teach stoning to death for adulterers.
According to The Holy Book Quran:
"The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment. [2:24] "
Do not blame Islam for what Muslims do, unfortunately most so called Muslims follow history books instead of the Law from God.
gnabeel 2 years ago
CHRISTIANITY AND DEATH:
The Biblical Law commands DEATH for so many various acts: murder (Exodus 21:12), kidnapping (Exodus 21:16), bestiality (Exodus 22:19), adultery (Leviticus 20:10), homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13), being a false prophet (Deuteronomy 13:5), prostitution (Deuteronomy 22:4), and so many countless crimes.
ISLAM only has the death penalty IN ONLY 3 cases, as the Prophet Muhammad said clearly.
abdelbaasit1 2 years ago
ADULTERY IN CHRISTIANITY (and other abrahamic faiths)
It reads in King James BIBLE, and in the New American Standard BIBLE.
" If there is a man who commits adultery with another man's wife, one who commits adultery with his friend's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to DEATH."
This is Christianity, the Bible - Adultery = Death.
abdelbaasit1 2 years ago
* ISLAM AND ADULTERY:
Islam actually lightened the punishment, as it is the final message till the Day of Judgment.
In ISLAM -- Adultery unmarried is different and has less punishment than Adultery married.
Adultery unmarried (24:2) = 100 whips, lashes, stripes. one hundred, then they're released
Adultery married kept the same punishment as was mentioned in the Previous Divine scriptures!!
abdelbaasit1 2 years ago
ISLAM AND RAPE:
The Prophet Muhammad stated clearly that the Punishment for committing RAPE is DEATH, and there is no sin on the victim, nor is there any worldly punishment ascribed to her!!
Rapist = death
abdelbaasit1 2 years ago
ISLAAM AND RAPE:
islamqa . com / en / ref / 72338
abdelbaasit1 2 years ago
hadith is satanic tool to distract kpeople from Quranic teachings.
ifthyder 2 years ago
Islam and the prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon him was just , kind and merciful . He did not behave only upon the scriptures revealed to him by God and so Islam encourages us to spread peace and mercy on earth for all people . Unfortunately there are many so called Muslims that dont follow the prophetic tradition and best character .
Please make sure to read the true biography of the holy prophet and then you will fall in love with his noble and perfect character .
Peace and love :)
NadiahBfromRomania 2 years ago 9
@NadiahBfromRomania there is absolutely nothing peacefull about isla , your prophet was a pedophile , your ancient sick cult teaches to lie and deceive the unbeliever , it teaches to kill the infidels without exceptions . there is only one islam not two , not three , only one islam that teaches to hate and kill , mohammedans are sick , shoulod be locked up
MrIhateislam100 1 year ago
@NadiahBfromRomania
It sounds as if you are making excuses for the evil things he did. Stoning a mother to death for a mistake she made (or for being raped, we are not sure) is an evil thing.
Weirdochris 1 year ago
@NadiahBfromRomania so are you telling us that his actions were right?
Zachzodia12 1 year ago
@NadiahBfromRomania didnt he marry a 9 year old? I could never fall in love with someone that sick and twisted
Minkki82 8 months ago
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@Minkki82 Well, he married a six year old and started fucking her when she was 9 years old.
Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old."
"Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116
"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."
dominiquehoward 5 months ago
@NadiahBfromRomania 'so Islam encourages us to spread peace and mercy on earth for all people .'
That's not what he said in the Hadiths or in the Koran. That's not how Muslims behave. Every word in the Koran comes directly from Allah and is literally true.
"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them." Sura 4:15.
Do you dispute the Holy Koran?
SheikhTaqiyyameister 3 months ago
@SheikhTaqiyyameister You are correct every word is from allah BUT those verses you gave are not from him dont add words please here is the original verse
(4:15)As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).
lilbigbrow 2 months ago
@SheikhTaqiyyameister can you see the difference? you added ''starvation'' you either getting your false verses from ppl who dont like islam or you are adding them..look at your verse and now look at my verse can you see the difference? aim getting those verses from the original translation..if you want to know anything about islam go read the real quran translation istead of those christian websites
lilbigbrow 2 months ago
Peace be to all ,
I just want to kindly ask you dear sister / brother in humanity (Mind Masters) not to spread such invented happening narrated by unknown people and with no evidence to real historic events . Also please make sure to not put any cartoon image of the prophet , including this one in the video because it is really insulting .
NadiahBfromRomania 2 years ago 4
@NadiahBfromRomania What do you think about muhammed fucking a little 9 year old girl as it says over and over in the hadiths? I think that a 53 year old man that fucked a 9 year old little girl deserves to be not only insulted, but lashed, stoned and jailed for life.
Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old."
Look at other hadiths for more!
dominiquehoward 5 months ago
the quran is not the only 1 that has stoning in it so dose the torah?????? well why isnt anyone talkig bout that and it says 2 be stoned 4 all sins not just adultery u ppl are fucked
7WONDERZZZ 2 years ago
This is not true, it did not happen.
THEPRESTIGE1995 2 years ago
hadiths are written after 300 years of death of prophet by his enemies in a attempt to portray islam as evil.
ifthyder 2 years ago
lol , ya right
hmt444 2 years ago
why all of yours think of this too much......simple....just dont commit adultery.....then this execution will not happen....proud to be muslim
3366635 2 years ago
May Lord forgive you for murdering human beings. Life is given by God and whoever takes other human being' life is severe punished. Your prophet commanded for the woman to be stoned, Lord Jesus saved a woman form stoning. That is the difference between Islam and Christianity: the tolerance.
aalexmary 2 years ago
tolerance are u joking me like the fucking tolerence with the crusades when u butchered and raped ur women the spanish inquisition tolerance when the christians invaded the new world neraly wiping out a race of people tolerance my fucking ass
fuckamerica404 2 years ago
Look, nobody is to stone anybody until I blow this whistle, is that clear?
MrBondye 2 years ago
this person who made the video is not even muslim this is fake it is not in quran it is in fake hadiths
lifeafherdeath 2 years ago
getting stoned on earth may be painfull but nothing compared to being punished in hell for this offense .
maybe god made it so harsh so ppl steer away from such evil .
perhaps ppl who have been punished in this life for this grave offense wont have to carry the heavy burden of this sin on judgement day .
some ppls conscience kills them so they confess and want to get their punishment over with.
i heard the mentioned women went to heaven .
pashun88 2 years ago
How do u know God maid it??? who told you god made it??? to whom god told????how the god talked???? who is the god??? where is th god???? is it Allah??? I fuck that Allah!!!!
andolos65 2 years ago
for ur info Allah is the arabic word for God and nothing else .
if u even believe in God then u should not throw such an insult ...and even if u happen to be atheist then consider that even though u many not believe in the existence of an Al -mighty God that does not mean God doesnt exist.
ur not serious , u want only to mock ...but tell me when u are serious and want to have an honest dialogue . i will them explain everything to u the best i can
peace
pashun88 2 years ago
My god is the creator who designed all creatures DNAs and organized life within 14.5 billion years after big bang...we are still investigating how he/she did that great job....I have no fear of god...I don't believe heaven and hell...that huge God's energy, and potental of life is everywhere...Everybody has right to love somebody from any religion and that girl did not do any thing wrong...Any religion who punish a girl for this is Evil religion!!!
andolos65 2 years ago
"punish a girl" ....its not just women it goes just as well for men.
was she not stoned for adultery ?
pashun88 2 years ago
my God is the creator as well ....what is ur point ....So u believe in god but not in hell and heaven . interesting
what do u think is the purpose of human life ?
pashun88 2 years ago
yes , the punishment for adultery is stoning to death .
adultery one of the MAJOR SINS and so its punishment is harsh
so harsh so ppl dont get near to doing something like this
so they think twice
God set boundaries not to be transgressed if crossed then know that there r consequences.
the person knows the consequence be4 he commits the crime .
this thing doesnt happen much becuz u need a # of witnesses to prove the person guilty . u need cold hard evidence ..not easy to come by
pashun88 2 years ago
as a muslim i wonder what if a woman commits adultery and the marries the man and becomes his second wife(for example)? and what is the punishment for for a man commiting adultery?
any educated ulemas out there???? thanks
amazingasa 3 years ago
adultry in islam is 'haraam' (prohibitted). if it is commited by some one(male or female) who is un-married, he or she will face a punishment of 80 lashes.
if sinner (male or female) is married, the punishment is death till stoning. it is a superb law of Allah tht helps making a society neat and clean.
hudhudkhan 2 years ago
prophet muhammad said to all people................................this woman was the holiest mankind because she was comitted her fault............muhammed said that she was placed in heaven peacefully after her death............islam is peace.....
3366635 3 years ago
Which muslims claim it ain't? retard, I am proud it is part of islam, look at your swine cuntnry and you see millions of kids born without dads, if people are so careless and wish to spread corrupation that 4 wtness are able to see their scum like behavior then they should be made example out of.
p.s you are also a coward with a retard voice
transwarp100 3 years ago
lies...
haqseeker 3 years ago
i hear Islam is full of love, But all i see if murder murder murder.Kill Kill Kill. its like its all about blood, its sad, very sad.
bearwolfone 3 years ago
not rly when u break the law things liek this happen what happens when u kill a person. you get thrown in jail back then and now if u have sex outside of mariage it is death that was the most dishonerable pathetic thing back then
fuckamerica404 2 years ago
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prmd142 3 years ago
Another use of your arsenal of fabricated Hadith
How convenient, give me a single Quranic verse that supports such awful acts.
You will fail as always do.
indifferentcanadian 3 years ago 2
you are another jahil, not knowing that the ayat was revealed, its nass abrogated but rule remain binded. First go and study quran and fiqh then come and talk. fabricated hadith my ...
rezza01 3 years ago
@indifferentcanadian never ever listen to mohammedans , they are liers and deceivers
they worship a terrorist , also mohamamd was a pedophile who fucked aisha when she was nice , disgusting
MrIhateislam100 1 year ago
@MrIhateislam100
I think you are the liar and blinded.
Go look for the truth yourself.
Go study the real Islam, Islam is all tolerance it is people like you ranging from ( terrrorist Ben Laden to the terrorist new-cons who are trying to deface Islam). But you will never be able.
People like you will always look for questionable source and bring lies about Islam, Hadith that you guys resort to is Bullsh*t.
indifferentcanadian 1 year ago
asalaamo alaikom wa rahmatullah e wa barakatuhu
I know that you dont have any bad intentions but Sister you are not allowed to draw Rasulullah e pbuh... He pbuh did not allow this
please i request, remove the animation and have a picture instead...
asallam o alaikom wa rahmatullah e wa barakatuhu
afghanpepsi 3 years ago
shit..I am Muslim and I say if Muslims countrie's are having bunch of excuses for this bihevior...screw them.Leave them in stone ages...If there is humanity, they should be hunting those which supprt this sort of whichcraft...If being Muslim is to do or support or be quiet in the face of this savage behavior I am Pinguin from now on.
baliija 3 years ago
005.049
YUSUFALI: And this (He commands): Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah's purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
005.050
YUSUFALI: Do they then seek after a judgment of (the days of) ignorance? But who, for a people whose faith is assured, can give better judgment than Allah?
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
if ur a muslim then u should believe in the quran and i got that from the quran from soorat almaeda (chapter 5) .... thats all i can tell u ... u can say whatever u want but allah's word will be on top of everything
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
Stoning to death is a cruel insane Islamic punishment given to people who have sex outside marriage. This punishment was ordered by your "merciful" Prophet, who ofcourse was the messenger of the "merciful" Allah. If you are a Muslim & believe stoning is not a part of Islam: Congratulations! You have already partially apostated from Islam. Now you just need to complete your apostasy, & stop believing that Mohammed was a prophet of God. Being a humanist is a great alternative to being a Muslim
prmd142 3 years ago
wow are u serious ly have a iq that low retard sex outside of marriage is ufcked how wouldu feel if ur husband or wife fucked another women well u wud want to basically kill him or be very upset this was law back then adultery= stoning just like if u kill a person now a days u will get lifei n prisons that law law is law maybe nexrt time hors like u shudnt do that
fuckamerica404 2 years ago
Of course I won't answer to you or talk to you, 404. I simply can't lower myself sooo much.
aalexmary 2 years ago
Islam is the least developped of all civilisations, it is absurd that anyone attempts to make any points against this fact. This is history, not opinions.
lolluslollus 3 years ago
first of all islam is not a civilisation it is a religion... and secondly the west has a lot to thank islamic scholars, ranging from maths, philosophy, astronomy, geography, medical advances etc to name a few... without the translation of those islamic scientists works we wouldnt be in the state we are now... that is history,and a fact.
leshark 3 years ago
Don't use the Quran??? then what? The Bible? okay!
Stone Women to death Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night:(Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Stone Followers of Other Religions to death:(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
Stone who blasphemed the LORD's name to death:(Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Stone the Family of Sinners to death:(Joshua 7:19-26 Webster's Bible)
albasha89 3 years ago
you gona suffer one day for this insult u r maikng and laughing on what u did until u visit the grave.
justcrazy0011 3 years ago
>> you gona suffer one day for this insult
I did no insult any one yet :-)
>> u r maikng and laughing on what u did
>> until u visit the grave.
if God is going to punish me for the conclusions that the mind he created for me reached, I guess I can do nothing against that... something I wont do, is pretend to believe, while I don't
Mussaheem 3 years ago
find one scientific mistake or one contradiction in the quran or any mistake you could get in this holly book and i will turn my back to this religion ... 1429 years still people couldn't manage to do that or even come up with a book like it .. or even prove it wrong ... every time people are discovering things and they find it there in the quran in details written from more than 1400 years ago and the only reason quran shouldnt be translated so that it doesnt change like the bible did over time
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
>> find one scientific mistake
it is difficult to convince a true beliver that there are mistakes in there holy book because if one points out a verse with a clear mistake, they find al sorts of rationalisations, interpretational stretches, and applogetic gymnastics to explain it away and while ignoring the plain reading and known language conventions. Quran like the bible has many scientific errors which reflect its human origin.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
For example just in the field of astronomy:
• Earth created BEFORE the sky was adorned with stars (41.9-12)
• earth described with a dozen adjectives in Quran, all revolve around the meaning of flatness.
• Sun sets in a (muddy/dark) (well/spring). (18.86).
• Meteorites are fires thrown at "devils" to stop them from "listening" to heaven (37.7-10)(15.17-18)(72.8-9) consistent with pre-scientific superstitions.
• Stars are sources of these fires! (67.5)
to name just a few...
Mussaheem 3 years ago
even the quran means recitation in english and islam means the submission to god
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
in the quran god said that he taught him everything .... and he was a scientist and he used to wear clothes and the proof is that when he ate from that tree he treated to hide from god to cover his body cuz his clothes got burned ... he used to know things that the angels didnt know human have brain thats our gift everything in the quran is all about brain god is always talking to people who use their brains and its very scientific if u may have noticed..brain brain brain..think read and write
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
... he used to know things that the angels didnt know human have brain thats our gift everything...
I like to stay in one topic, btw I don't believe in Adam, angels and tree story, you are using Quran in your arguments while I don't believe in it devine origin.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
alright lets put it that way ... have you seen the scientific verses in the quran ??? ... is there any chance a man would know these things 1400 years ago ? ... take a close look it not revolving around the point it is very specific verses that tells you things in details .. that'll make you a believer hopefully
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
give me one of these detailled verses??
Mussaheem 3 years ago
see now we're getting to a point ... since it is not a good thing to do like it is something that'll break your heart islam tries to stop that and to make sure people never think of doing such a thing there r hard punishments like if you know ur gonna get stoned to death u will never cheat on ur wife and guess what there must be 4 witnesses and these 4 witnessess must see both people actually having sex not even kissing in order to stone them to death
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
4 witnesses means it is almost impossible to happen in real life to punish both offenders. but if a women gets pregnant and she does not have a present housband what happens then?? she gets stonned or lashed but the man offender gets away with it, that s why it is mostly women who get those punishments even thaugh it takes two to fornicate. sounds like injustice to me.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
Why women get harsh punishment for adultery etc while islam allows men to fonicate freely with however many slave girls captured in battles or bought in the market without need for marriage??
it seems your religion is very biased towards men, which not surprising given that all main religions were made up by men.
what about the "broken hearts" of these slave girls and the wifes of those men? they don seem to have much voice in your religion
Mussaheem 3 years ago
first of all she has to give birth and raise the baby to a certain age and if she tells the authority who did this to her they will punish him too so its not just women ... and guess what islam is the first religion to come up with women rights ... people used to kill their daughters or treat them bad and they consider them as a property islam dont
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
for example .. when two people get married the women takes the name of the husband ... in islam it is forbidden because the man doesn't own the woman ... and about slaves .. look at this way ... after wars there r slaves right ?? ... mostly women and most of these women lost their husbands and they dont force them to do such a thing ... but its all over now there r no slaves.... but u know if u want to learn more about islam let me know because you seem to have the wrong idea about some things
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
>> after wars there r slaves right ??
in backward middle age, yes but not necesseraly, what about freeing the prisoners or at least women and children after battles?
>> they dont force them to do such a thing
really? you thik a women whose father and brother and son have just been killed wants to have sex with their killer?? Plus that s not my point even, my point is these men are having sex with these female prisoners without mariage. how can you even try to defend that?
Mussaheem 3 years ago
prisoners of war are still up to date there are still prisoners of war ... and when muslims used to go to war they go to war against the ruler only and who ever fights back the only point is to spread islam and if the country doesnt allow them to spread it they fight them so that they can spread it cuz everybody has the right to check this religion and learn more about it no one should stop that ... so they dont do it by force they just tell everybody and if anyone fights them they fight back
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
and these things r very unique and guess what when the prophet was given a slave woman mariah he let her free and then he married her .. but what the quran is saying if you can't get married like nobody wants to marry you or your not able to handle marriage and its costs then do it with ur slaves if they dont mind since you own them but man lets be realistic this thing had an end and it did end there r barely any slaves in this universe now what people do is torture prisoners of war
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
back then they used to treat them good and they feed them and they leave them with their religion and beliefs but they do ask them to convert nicely its not like they used to chop their legs like they used to do in the U.S....so you have to give it up for them they ... at least they dont let them work as prostitutes
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
>> when the prophet was given a slave woman >> mariah he let her free and then he married >> her
he took many women as slaves such as rayhana and safiya after he killed their housbands. some he married some he did not.
>> if they dont mind
can you show me where it says that in the Quran?? in islam you have the right to sleep with your wife or slave girl whether she likes it or not. it is considered a man's right, am I wrong??
Mussaheem 3 years ago
there is nothing by force my man ... plus never forget that islam is the religion that brought women's rights to this planet .. back then people used to kill their daughers and feel ashamed of women and treat them bad ... and when a women's husband die the husband's sons take his money anddd his wife like her like any peny so dont you ever say that islam is only based on men.. there was no women rights before islam and thats a fact
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
Yousef...let's cut that BS, tell me if you support or not woman equal rights, and practicies such as stoning?
baliija 3 years ago
the serbs raped and murdered our women n tried their best to exterminate our people from the face of bosnia........... what someone who defends those ppl has any right to talk.
imadhurata 3 years ago
Who defends them note me...But this crap is same line of work that Serbs did to Bosnians, no good man would be able to do it..Bad people ARE BAD PEOPLE REGARDLES WHICH RELIGION THEY BELONG TO, SO imadhurata LIVE SERBS OUT OF THIS, THIS IS ORIGINAL RECEIPE OF BROTHERS AND SISTERS (MORE BROTHERS)FROM EASTERN LANDS-AND UNFORTUNATELY LANDS DOMINATED BY MUSLIMS.
baliija 3 years ago
>>you seem to have the wrong idea about some >> things
I am still learning, if you think I said something factually wrong, please point it out.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
>> she tells the authority who did this
well from my understanding it is her word against his so unless she has witnesses he wont get punished.
>> people used to kill their daughters
islam might have been progressist ideology in those middle age times but not humanity has moved on from you cant keep comparing to middle age standards.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
trust me in the end we're all human they were human and we r human so whatever happened back then is happening now trust me maybe u look at it in a different way look at it that way .... they had gays back then we have gays now ... they had prositutes we have prositutes now .. they had prisoners of war we have prisoners of war ... people r doing the same thing over and over again its not like we came up with new things .. we ride cars now they used to ride horses and camels ???
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
so0o0o0o tell me whats the difference between us and them ???? ... look at allllllllll ages human are human and the mistakes we do now they did before and the things they did before we're doing now .... history is repeating itself isn't it ??? .... dont be like those people who say that adam was barbaric and he was naked and he didnt even know how to communicate
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
>>whatever happened back then is happening now
you are missing my point, I did not say human nature has changed. All I said was that human standards should and have changed slowly to the better so we can't use past barabaric situation as a reference to say islam improved them, because standards have moved on.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
Religions are an out of date way of organising society. We need to move on now
Mussaheem 3 years ago
so you are saying that you know better than god ?
people were given clear instructions not to do such things and if they do they will get punished and in that case they got what they deserve in life and god will forgive them for that sin.
and why do you think that the muslim society have the least amount of crimes ?
BECAUSE THEY HAVE LAWS THAT THEY FOLLOW!
Yousefhamadah 3 years ago
Are you looking for what can be on your side and help you out to commit your crime or are you looking for a fair punishment for those who commit crimes???
Tells me what's fair?
and what are we not supposed to do ?
if there shall not be any punishments lets go ahead and kill each other and cheat on each other and encourage gay marriage and make sure we do everything wrong if there is no law to stop these things.
Yousefhamadah 3 years ago
what r you talking about??
why do you assume the alternative to middle age religeous barbaric laws is total chaos and anarchy??
We all agree there should be laws and punishment for crimes for a society to work. I just don,t see why the source of these laws should be a mythical books written by people of the desert more than a thousand years ago!!
Mussaheem 3 years ago
>> that you know better than god ?
I don't, I just don't see evidence to support claims made by people who say they know what God wants
>>and why do you think that the muslim
>> society have the least amount of crimes ?
Give me a break, Japan, singapoor, scandenevian coutries all have lower crime than both SA and Iran where people get harsh religious punishment. and they all have secular human laws.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
first of all people do not represent god. people represent them selves. second of all who told u that Holy Quran was written by people. it was sent down to a prophet who cant read and write. its GOD's words, and it is impossible for a man to write whats in the quran. and if u need evidence i would be more than happy to show it to u and everybody
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
>>first of all people do not represent god. >> people represent them selves
you are the one talking qbout muslim societies
>>and if u need evidence i would be more than >> happy to show it to u and everybody
please go ahead I would love to see your evidence
Mussaheem 3 years ago
and by the way muslim society dont have alot of crimes thats just what you see on the news which is obviously one sided and no one seems to notice. WE DONT DRINK WE DONT GAMBLE WE DONT GO AROUND HAVING SEX WITH EVERYBODY WE DONT HAVE GAY MARRIAGE and i can go on for ever
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
and who ever does is a sinner and he doesn't represent islam because islam Prohibits these things and punish who ever attempts these things and since you agree on laws and why arguing ? how would you feel if somebody sleeps with ur wife ? if u dont mind then there is something wrong with u and if u mind then u shouldnt disagree
yousefhamadah1 3 years ago
>>how would you feel if somebody sleeps with >> ur wife ?
this is irrelevent question, but if somebody sleeps with my wife, I will feel heart and angry, I most probably will devorce her and look for someone who loves and respects me, I am not going to stone her to death because this is barbaric in my view, you see things differently I respect your view but I dont share it.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
>>just what you see on the news which is
>> obviously one sided
I was talking about crime statistics provided by the countries themselves, and my point was that some other countries have lower crime rates then the most religeous muslim countries, I was simply answering your initial point about crime, let stick to one topic.
Mussaheem 3 years ago
Prophets do as they wish. At least the kid wasnt killed. Give some credit.
mjdoyza 3 years ago
I don't know what to say.
AhmadiOrg 3 years ago