FARRAKHAN VS. ELIJAH Richmond, Va. Pt 3

[ThetruthisTHEvirtue]

Minister Farrakhan is a hypocrite. He said that the Messenger told him "don't change the teachings" and what has he done? He changed ramadan, he changed the Messenger's title(violation of point no. 12) he took from the Savior's title, he demoted the Savior by saying he prays. He changed the whitemans title. He dropped the weight requirements, he has allowed "believers" to have more than 1 spouse. He changed the meeting time..... Hypocrite! Hypocrite! Hypocrite! Guilty!

[0sAndOnes]

This is straight unadulterated truth.



[code187G]

Despite Our Strong disagreements about The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan i do think he is a good speaker

[66westworld]

Inshalah In the name of allah most gracious most merciful, I have a problem myself with this message the young muslim is interjecting prophet elijah muhammed was not taught by allah but by a man Master Fard Muhammed who disapperaed after teaching elijah muhammed. if you want to believe that believe it but this brother is distorting everything that is right and posioning it,what he is doing is huram this man is shaytan a jinn!

[antoinelamond]

What date was this sermon/speech given?

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@antoinelamond April 19, 2008.

[omniverve]

Elijah Muhammad (in his time) was not the HEAD of The Nation of Islam. ALLAH IS The Head of the Nation and of Creation itself. ALLAH IS the HEAD, though ALLAH (In The Person of Master Fard Muhammad) has not been seen since 1933. Yet, ALLAH IS the HEAD. ROYALL IS ALLAH, In Allah's Own Person who IS the HEAD of the Entity of our Salvation, THE UNITED NATION OF ISLAM. By this Brother's logic, he also should be in time and on time, with ALLAH In Person, for this time in which we now live.

[gatekeeper07305]

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but this brother is mixing truth with falsehood. I too am a follower of the HEM and I did follow min. Farrakhan with rank in the southern region. I knew brother Khalid...well. From his days as minister of mosque #15 in Atl and in prison and after. This brother has no self identity. The HEM taught knowledge of self but this brother is a knock off copy of brother Khalid. BTW some mins. do outrank others.. that's why MFM set up regionals

and locals etc. Allahuakbar

[tuftalk]

Ok here comes the "LITMUS TEST" is the devil more happy when this guy is talking or when Min Farrakhan is ding!ding! This guy and the devil are on the same side......for now until the devil is finished with him and destroys him to and when its all over who will be still standing just like every other time FARRAKHAN!

[Abdullah1475]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 The Quran speaks of many things and the 2 things that ring out loud and clear is that God is not a man and that Muhammad Ibn Abdullah(pbuh) is his FINAL Messenger the seal of the prophets..How in the world can you read the Quran and come away saying the same thing the Christians do about Allah? The opening surah of the Quran speaks about those who have gone astray How do u justify this? What is your proof?Go ahead and reply i will give you the last word bro.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Abdullah1475 The 2 things of which you speak ring neither loud nor clear to those with ears to hear. Allah is the seer. With no eyes? Allah is the hearer. With no ears? Allah is the knower. With no brain? The heavens will be rolled up in his right hand like a scroll. With no right hand? It speaks of a covenant made with the prophets including Muhammad to believe in the last Messenger who'd be a man like Moses when the Pharaoh of Chapter 11:98 leads his people to the fire.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Abdullah1475 You are dealing with a man who knows this Quran better than you, so back off.

[Abdullah1475]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 Do You know me??Unless you speak and read classic Arabic we really have nothing to discuss.I know I said I would give you the final word but I expected better.This Eric Muhammad is a racist clown.A Khalil Muhammad wannabe.I was onboard with the brother until he called sunnis "silly" I was recently invited to one of your temples by one of your brothers but I think I will pass If I want to hear white people refered to as crackers.I`ll stay home and watch Sanford and son.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Abdullah1475 What color were the classical Arabs? Where are they and what happened to them? The answers to these questions will demonstrate sunni's are silly. Enjoy your show. Do they have it in classical Arabic yet?

[Abdullah1475]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 What in the hell is a classical Arab?? lol.Look bro If I am silly for being a Sunni then so be it.I am willing to be silly.I guess the so called Muslims like your self that think God is a man.White people were created from skin grafts,Elijah Muhammad is flying around in a space ship and stand on the corner in hot assed suits and bow ties selling 3 day old bean pies are the enlightened ones.If that`s what it takes not to be silly I think I will pass lol.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Abdullah1475 LOL? What's so funny? A "classical Arab" is an Arab who is of the particular Arabs who gave us Classical Arabic as a language. I am calling them that. I'm not saying any such anthropological designation exists. I'm using the term to point to Arabs of a particular time and place so that we may determine their color/ethnicity. Now answer the questions please.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Abdullah1475 Stop lumping all Nations of Islam into one with Farrakhan as owner of all. We're not with Farrakhan and don't believe as Farrakhan. We don't believe in "skin grafted whites." We don't believe "The Messenger is flying around on a space ship." Our bean pies are only 3 days old after the second day of selling them. LOL. We believe God is a man because he said he is a man. That's enlightenment Einstein!.... to believe God is what God himself says he is. Duuhhh!

[omniverve]

@Abdullah1475 Muslims and Christians have one thing in common, in their near identical view of The Supreme Being, in terms of the limits they both place on Allah's Power and the extent of Allah's exercise of Allah's Will Be Done.

The Divine formula performs The Spiritual and The Mental as always being represented in the fullness of The Physical. The Highest representation of The Divine (The Definite) is MAN (Mind without limits).

Ignorance means to ignore the Truth. Choose to Know.

[Abdullah1475]

Silly Muslim huh? Go sell a bean pie clown.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Abdullah1475 Yes. Silly Muslim. Doesn't the condition of The Muslim World bear witness y'all are silly as hell? Doesn't The Quran speak of those who are, after being given knowledge, brought back to the worst part of knowledge so that ,after having knowledge, they know nothing? Isn't that another way of saying they are "silly?"

[willidynamite1]

It seems where are victims of the lessons that freed our minds and letting personal feelings get involed. It reminds me of the 1-14

Q-7. why does the devil call our people africans? Yes the brother eric is right there have been some deviation from the messengers teachings but also show our self destruction.

[4Xderrick]

This dude is so in love with his little bald-head personality.

[shawnwilliams19]

Poor Brother! His logic in the scenarios is so warped. Farrakhan, in the 1972 reference he gave was sitting way in the back of the area where the minister sit. When The Messenger inquired of him he told him (Farrakhan) to come and sit up front. The Minister came to seat on the front row of the minister section. The Messenger stood him up and made him to sit in his seat. Being sat in special seat set aside for one man and sitting in that seat with permission and regard are 2 different things

[nhXCdboy]

this guy is a disgruntled kafir who woships a mix raced con man from the bay area talk black to me

[MrBlackunity]

This brother is a joke. Minister Louis Farrakhan is the Messengers best representative. No one is providing the structure to train the FOI and the MGT like the Nation of Islam under the Guidance of Minister Louis Farrakhan. Get over your anger and lets unite. Stop feeding into the devils plan of keeping us divided. Unless you are working for the Government.

[dimentedsoldierz]

no one is above criticism. i love farrakhan but i increasingly find myself questioning him. i never did before.

[1hotandsmartman]

Based on who's authority? Who gave him the authority to alter hon. Elijah message giving to him by Allah?

[blackdog1083]

I like this brother yall, what seems to be the damn problem!!!!

[ToshaX2]

This is hella wack!!!!!!!!!!

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

You can say what you wanna say! But several of the channels you subscribe to have subscribed to our video channel. Why do you think that is? Cuz we Hella Wack? Mosque no 7, Bam9000, know4life, SanMuhammad, and others are all subscribers to our video channel. Go check and see who subscribes to us and then ask them why they subscribe to such a hella wack channel like ours.

[whatutalknbout1979]

what did moses ask Allah for aron for ? had

[TheAsiatic1]

To Eric Muhammad...>>>

If all of this is true, then why were you a member of The Nation of Islam with Minister Farrakhan for 13 years????

Please explain....Did it take you 13 long years to figure this out????

Peace

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

Figure out what? That's a dumb question. I never fiugured out that Christianity was a false religion made to enslave The Blackman. I never would have figured it out. I had to be taught it. I was taught that which you are asking me about figuring out. When I have been taught the truth, I have simply accepted it. I aint never figured nothin. Duuuhhhh!!!

[angelsnupnup7]

When Farrakhan first began rebuilding the messenger's teachings he never said he was the leader of the NOI,he only claimed being his rep.However since that time he has accepted it seems he now sits in such seat. I also feel Louis has done things 2 sweeten the teachings but I would not divide our people,this is why religion can't be used to unite us.This is why the forefathers separate church from state.Deadmen can't lead nothing only the living.Elijah is dead,Louis is leader stop being silly

[trulife01]

Why are you fighting your own brother who has done more for black people than your donkey self. Why don't you try to call a MILLION black man for anything of good and see what happens. Why are you condeming his intentions and actions to help humanity. You SUCK! Go to Savior's Day and talk that shit to one ot them real muslim followers of farrakhan....see what happens...its sad

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

A million were called and showed, but how many accepted the teachings of the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad, you are caught up with numbers, but that's symbol without substance.How many do you think would have shown up without the help of the civil rights leaders, Black preachers? so lets not act like Farrakhan alone made this call and a million showed up. Out of all those leaders and preachers, how many of them believe Allah appeared in the person of Master Fard Muhammad....NOT ONE!!!!

[TheAsiatic1]

There is no comparison with Eric Muhammad and Farrakhan...Minister Farrakhan has been all over the world Teaching and uplifting The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

But we can compare Nuri Muhammad who is a Student Minister under Minister Farrakhan to Eric.

Place "Nuri Muhammad" in your browser, and you will learn a lot more about "The Teachings" than from this disgruntled, unhappy, broken hearted little minister!!!

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

There's no comparison with Elijah Muhammad and Farrakhan either. Place Elijah Muhammad in your browser and really learn about the teachings!

[brainnee1]

sounds like envy and jealous to me.just another judas

[1luvabove]

Fake ass Khalid Muhammad!

[2hq89]

vs. farrakhan, brother please this brother couldnt stand in the minister's shadow, and he is too humble to say that but i will say it for him. they try to use religion to sheild their envy and jealousy of a man who has spread the truth farther than they could ever dream of, its the minister who has paved the way for these brothers, no one gave a damn about what they had to say until after farrakhan came!

[findingmyx]

Minister Louis Farrakhan often says if you but LISTEN that he is NOT the LEADER of the Nation of Islam nor has he ever said that he is the MESSENGER. We who TRUST him to guide us call him our leader and if it wasn't for HIM being the man of GOD that he is where would YOU be today?

[nomha]

what do u think about him saying that obama is the christ?

[MadBlackMan33]

But I respect this brother because he reminds me of DR. Khalid Muhammad

[MadBlackMan33]

it is understandable why so many of our younger brothers leave religion. There are to many splits and fractions of every damn thing. Nobody knows what the hell the truth is.

[amindada01]

That's no excuse to leave religion, "MadBlackMan." There are splits and fractions in the work place but you don't quit your job, do you?

[muze1877]

Bismillah:

As-Salaam Alaikum: The leader of the "Lost Found Nation of Islam in the West" is The Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Alhamdulillah! All praises are due to Allah, Master Fard Muhammad (SWT).

As-Salaam Alaikum wa-rahmatu-llahi wa barakatuh.

[ameneye1]

As long as the messengers (plural) stay true to the message they are protected and respected for their actions. The Creator has the ability to send the message to as many vessels as the Creator deems necessary to teach the people.

[ameneye1]

The problem is that when spirit is cloaked in flesh it loses Omniscience (All Knowing Power)

This is true with Jesus (Yashua), Muhammed, H.E.M., Farrakhan. The ability to deliver the message is a limited, not unlimited ability...in other words the Messengers are not Omnipotent.

[smallbuttfirm]

When will Blacks stop using the word Nigger?

In any group, someone will always rise to the top--somehow. That is the nature of an organization. Even if the person does not have a formal title over anyone, people will tend to put that person as the head if they are the most articulate of all of the ministers and the followers feel he best represents the teacher and his teachings. Since Elijah Muhammad is gone, SOMEONE must be the acting leader. However it came about, that is Louis Farrakhan.

[hillary300]

very very good! may ALLAH ALWAYS BLESS YOU! brother.

[lyoungaka]

Your "seat" analogy is very weak. The seat of the H.E.M. was way more significant than some seat in a restaurant or some public place. You know what it represented. Are u deliberately cheapening its significance to win your argument? That seat represented the spiritual seat of the Head of the House and NOT JUST ANYONE could physically sit in that chair. Correction, no one could sit in that chair but T.H.E.M. but he sat MLF in that seat. Not as a successor but as a reminder to us

[lyoungaka]

Because of this leadership quality, his heart, and his "personality", he was chosen to carry the burden of giving birth to our mighty Nation. Now you wanna criticize the One representative we have who has the whole world listening? T.H.E.M. would've been an obscure reference around the globe if it were not for the personality of MLF. Also, there are plenty of vids here on this site of MLF warning us about worshipping him or any personality and that the the Leader of the N.O.I. is T.H.E.M.

[lyoungaka]

Yes, so called personality worshipping is part of human nature. But I will argue that Jesus was a personality, Moses, Muhammad, etc..were all personailties and ALLAH used them for his purpose because of this. I'm sure the 5 members of your Temple, Eric, think you are a personality as well or there would be no temple, no reason to meet, nor reason to listen to you, or have you speak for them. ALLAH knows our nature and thats why even before T.H.E.M. met MFM he was considered a leader of men

[akabigron]

If the Muslim comunoty are saperated in defferent groupes, logicly it mean that it is kurupted.

they fight to know who is the best massager or prophet and they forget about Allah.

[TheAsiatic1]

To Black history man:

You and others always say that "The Minister" was "One" of The Messengers best Ministers, not "The Best".

Well where are all the others?

The Messenger had 250 Ministers!!

In your opinion, (since you know all the history). Name the Top 20 Ministers (past or present) of The Messengers Ministers.

And what progress have they made since 1975 in Building A Nation of Muslims.

[BlackHistoryHitman]

IF Louis Farracon was "the best student" of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the last Messenger of Allah, then he (Farracon) would NOT have turned hypocrite (& he admits he did himself) after the departure of the Messenger in February 1975. Now in 2008 he's teaching the same thing he taught between March 1975 & September 1977 when he (Farracon) was the international & national representative of the Chief Hypocrite Wallace D. Muhammad. Best student huh??? You sound STUPID!

[truthhurts2008]

Lets start with You Mr. So called Blackhistory hitman. Lets correct that right now you are not the blackhistoryhitman that name was given to Brother KHALID MUHAMMAD and he rightfully owned that title you obviously stole that from him and you certainly are not using that title well. Number 2 you say I sould stupid ok lets prove this then In the bible peter denounced Jesus 3 times before the roster crowed. Now you could call peter a hypocrite to since you called farrakhan one right?

[TheAsiatic1]

You did not answer my question.

Where are all of the other Ministers?

What are they doing today?

[truthhurts2008]

I agree ELijah is the leader of the Nation of Islam but if Elijah is physically dead then who will teach his teaching to the people?? The answer Minister Farrakhan.However Minister Farrakhan is the best example of the teachings of the The most Honorable Elijah Muhammad and we as sheep should follow what the good shepard tells us what to do because The shephard served under the Master who is Elijah. The master has passed on so the best student or servant of the master continues the mission.

[TheConsciousLife]

How could he be Brother? where is the stores , schools, buses, security,unity, happiness, pride? What has He did for you or anyone eles? Where is the safe havens? WHO CAN YOU POINT AT IN THOSE RANKS AS BEING RIGHTEOUS?? All of the so-called Mins are flirts and fornicators,or adulters. The MGT are harder than the FOI. Ava and Donna are better Mins than any of the Brother so-called Mins. Sister Mins? unheard in the Nation, is this church? What are they evangelist? Ha! not the house Elijah built

[truthhurts2008]

Question in the Torah when Moses was about to die God told Moses to bring Joshua so that Joshua could continue and lead the people with Gods permission.When Jesus Died his disciples was to continue the ministry of spreading the good news and healing the sick people.When Prophet Muhammad died the companions were to continue to lead the people starting with his best friend Abu Bakr.Now that Elijah is gone his disciple and best student Louis Farrakhan is to spread the teaching throughout earth.

[BlackHistoryHitman]

IF Louis Farracon was "the best student" of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the last Messenger of Allah, then he (Farracon) would NOT have turned hypocrite (& he admits he did himself) after the departure of the Messenger in February 1975. Now in 2008 he's teaching the same thing he taught between March 1975 & September 1977 when he (Farracon) was the international & national representative of the Chief Hypocrite Wallace D. Muhammad. Best student huh??? You sound STUPID!

[TheAsiatic1]

You and others always say that "The Minister" was "One" of The Messengers best Ministers, not "The Best".

Well where are all the others?

The Messenger had 250 Ministers!!

In your opinion, (since you know all the history). Name the Top 20 Ministers (past or present) of The Messengers Ministers.

And what progress have they made since 1975 in Building A Nation of Muslims.

[TheConsciousLife]

Your analogy is hitting on to something, the question is who is the styled Joshua? and what was that Joshua suppose to be doing and what was/is his instruction to the people? Read Joshua: chp 1 verses 1-3. However Farrakhan Is not the leader.He is and was a hypocrite,all of the Messengers older followers knew that and that is why very few if any followed him when he first stood up ..so called. That is why he ran away all of the believers from, when the Messenger was alive. read the teachings.

[truthhurts2008]

Joshua did not have to be a man like moses in order to lead the people after Moses died.Joshua was given a different mission but he still to act as a guide and teacher of the people.Farrakhan is the reminder and guide of the teachings of the Honorable elijah Muhammad.You can agree or disagree.I said it before and I will say it again Elijah Muhammad is the leader of the Nation of Islam.Tell me this if Farrakhan was not hear then how would the teachings of Elijah Muhammad be heard about or spread?

[TheConsciousLife]

Tell me this. Who said it was to be spread? If you understood the scriptures like you think you do,you would understand what needed to take place next.Joshua did not spread the teachings of Moses he just lead those who were among the ones who made it out of Egypt. right or wrong? He did not go around trying to teach anyone, just remind them of what had been taught of Allah by Moses.Bible,Jos,chp8:35,Jos,ch­p1:1-18 after you read this with understanding then what will you dispute over? Read bro.