Why is this battle NEVER mentioned????? Always battle of abraham and quebecers weep and get all angry and anglophones get snotty. The last battle for north america that lasted for two hours in the winter and the only thing that determines it is whose reinforcements come first. This battle was far more important for the sense of pride on both sides in my opinion.
I wasn't talking about the way he killed the natives-which was illegal, not just unconventional. I was talking about his attitude towards the Native being killed like this (one of derision, even celebration).
@Albukhshi if you are only talking about the attitude toward Natives then it was only the conventional English attitude toward natives because French people were not anti-natives. The great peace of 1701, the French and Indian war and the existence of the Métis people are good exemple...
@Patriote17 Those are decent examples. What about when Louis XIV waged war on the Iroquois in 1661? That was a French monarch waging war on innocent natives. This was likely only because they were allied with the English. Yes, English colonists were allied with natives as well - you just never hear about it. It's all a matter of circumstance. The Americans sided with the French because they shared a greater, common enemy in the English. Never forget the Quebec Act and the American reaction to it
@SideOfLife84 innocent natives who commited a genocide against the Hurons and tryed to wipe out the Algonquin. In the end the French sign a great peace in 1701 with th Iroquois, they ended that natives conflict. 90% of natives were allied with the French in 1754. It's not call the French and Indian war for fun, Iroquois have always been neutral and they had sign a treaty of peace with the French. Few of them join the English. Never forget what the British did in Québec before the Quebec act.
@SideOfLife84 during Pontiac rebellion, Iroquois, Hurons and Algonquin fought side by side only because the French united them with the Great peace of 1701. They were still distinct nation, they were not annexed...
@Patriote17 The French didnt unite them, Pontiac did. Sure we were allied with the French, but even after France surrendered we still kept fighting. Im also sick of this Genocide you Euros claim happened, cause it didnt. We absorbed these tribes, we didnt just massacre everybody like the Europeans had been doing. It was infact the Euros who brought the Iroquois to an all out war with the Algonquin when Champlain came and attcked us for no reason.
@kirokyukan Pontiac was a Métis and he had a lot of respect for the French. I recently learn that in a documentary made by the Natives historian Bernard Assiniwi.
@kirokyukan it's not me who claim Iroquois commited a genocide, but the Hurons and Algonquins. Indeed the Iroquois absorbed the Hurons, some were kill, some were eaten, some were adopted. Iroquois did the same with the French, many French woman and children were adopted by the Iroquois. Hurons were once a great nation now they live in a small territory near Québec.
@Patriote17 Iroquois were once a great nation too. It was outside interference that brought both Nations to our current status. Thats the first I heard of Pontiac being a Metis, but many Native ancestors have disputed heritage. Im wondering what kind of Archeological evidence that exist to prove the Haudenosaunee were indeed cannibals? I know the stories, but I'm also well aware of Europeans tendancies to declare every new culture they came across as cannibals.
@kirokyukan they were cannibal, but not in the horrible sense. They only eated vital part and didn't killed people with the intention of eating them. For them eating their death was better then letting the insect and microbe do it, letting a corpse to rot was an insult. They eated vital part because they believed that the death memory and soul continue to live inside them, not because they were hungry or evil. I am not sure all the Iroquois were cannibal, but I know that the Mohawks were.
@Patriote17 I agree with your take on how we may have practiced cannibalism, infact it fits in with our natural way of life, but thats not the way its usually reported. Most so called "eye witness" accounts make wild claims of quartering the kills, hence using it for meat. As such I feel the need for Archeological evidence to prove either version.
@kirokyukan the Algonquin probably demonized the Iroquois, Mohawks means Man-eater in Algonquin. There has been a lot of war, propaganda existed in that time, the Algonquin and later the French probably use the cannibalism of the Iroquois to demonized them. The Huron were also cannibal and were ally, they didn't seem to care.
@Patriote17 The Iroquois society were quite similar to ancient Sparta : the martial traditions allowed, in certain terms, the heart or other part of enemy bodies to be consumed by warriors. We can't imagine a hole native village gather in front of a giant grill with human cooking :)
Champlain didn't attack Iroquois for "no reason". He needed the help of natives and when the Hurons asked him to help them defeat their long time ennemies he accepted.
@Robineux99 If thats how you wish to spin the tale. Doesnt change the fact that without European interference the war never would have escalated to the scale it did.
@kirokyukan the "Natives" were not a unified group, Champlain sided with the Hurons and Algonquin against the Iroquois. The reasoning of Champlain was probably "what the hell I am doing here" and he decided to follow his allies. The war between the Hurons, Algonquin and Iroquois was already started.
@Patriote17 "I had come with no other intention than to make war, for we had with us only arms and not merchandise for barter, as [the Indians] had been led to understand." - Samuel de Champlain
Sounds to me like Champlain interrupted the Great Peace that was happening at the time the Europeans arrived and began pitting their Native allies against one another. His Allies thought he came to trade according to his own words, turns out he came to make war.
@kirokyukan I am sorry but your citation is false, a simple research show me it was written in the book Rebecca Bearce, by Lionel Nebeker, on March 22, 1987, word for word, in english. It have absolutly nothing to do with Champlain. Champlain was a trader and his only intentions in N.America were commercial, fur trade was the only thing that matters. The Mohawks attacked and almost exterminated the Huron, I sincerly doubt they were following Champlain orders, they also attacked the French.
@CanadianGuerrilla it's not really true, not all English were psycho like Amherst, what he did was unconventional and against all European rule of war. It's a shame that Amherst have a street with his name in Montréal even if the population sign a petition with thouzands of signature so that that street change name. English population of Montreal call us racist because of that but they don't seem to realize they defend a psycho killer man who commited a genocide and created biological warfare.
I agree 100%. It was pretty unusual and out-ofthe-blue for someone to do that. Man, I'd forgotten that they named a street after him. That's just aweful! My family's split between BC and Ontario, so I love learning about all kinds of Canadian history. I'm using family records and Ancestry.ca to see if I've got some French Canadian blood in there.
Yes, in fact it is, because they did it to innocent Natives. Don't get me wrong, the Canadians and Natives scalped their fair share of bystanders, but this is just a whole other gruesome level.
@skintrade French are not god, if you would have listen the video you would know that France never send reinforcement to Québec, that is why they lose, because they didn't care. France help the American couple of years later...
@kylejones7 Only English is capable of forgetting all the defeats that the French people during the history imposed on him(her). France fought whole Europe during 2000 years without having the sea to protect itself. It is not the case of England. Even during our worst defeat of 1940, it is French people who sacrificed themselves so that you can return to your island in. It's true! But you the English people, naturally, when you run away it is not a defeat, everybody knows him (it) !!!!
@kylejones7 And a true Englishman knows just when to surrender his wife and/or daughter to a Frenchman with superior social and love skills. Keep your idiot comments in your stuffy Brit head; no one has any use for them here.
french canadian propaganda bullshit, the moral of this video is that it's ok for the french to take over the world but nobodyelse is, fuckin french they we worse then the british
It's an American documentary not a French canadian one.
British imperialism made the first ethnic cleansing (Great Upheaval), the first genocide (Great Irish Famine) and the first concentration camps (Boer wars) of modern histrory.
1st recorded Ethnic cleansing - Edward I of England expelled all Jews living in England in 1290 - british imperialism didn't exist, Briton didn't exist... (If you ignore the bible which I like to do, but the book suggests the idea was around before 1290)
1st Genocide - Li of Zhou 828 BC
1st Concentration camps - Russia in the Bar confederation rebellion or Americans for the Cherokee in 1830
having got all 3 wrong be careful what you represent as facts
This is not an American documentary at all - it is produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, initially in English with French dubs for distribution in Quebec Province. It's correct title is "Canada: a People's History".
Also, it has been argued that the use of biological warfare against the Huron and their allies constitutes a form of genocide on the part of the British Empire, as does their extermination of the Newfoundland Beothuk.
Together with the much less violent expulsion of the Acadians - who, as a result, have developed into distinct cultures around the world, including the Cajuns of Louisiana, these actions definitely constitute substantial crimes on the part of the Empire, which has yet to be brought to any justice for its treatment of ethnic National minorities within the nation of Canada.
"french canadian propaganda bullshit, the moral of this video is that it's ok for the french to take over the world but nobodyelse is, fuckin french they we worse then the british"
There was one time all of France was under English occupation and that was right after the Battle of Waterloo when the Duke of Wellington became Commander in Chief of occupied France. Wellington ruled France for three years during which time he helped the defeated French to put their finances back in order. At the end of three years Wellington VOLUNTARIY left France for home.
Continuing...87Bourbon87 would like us to believe that the English ( and the English speaking Americans ) have had no impact on France, culturally or otherwise in any way. Somehow I doubt that.
Wrong dumbfuck, France and engayland had not been in that many wars, we won five coalitions dumbfuck, you only won two seed the difference or are you that stupid, personally I thinks youre just that stupid.
The angevins were an empire in england from the French region of anjou, you lost you mean we beat you, you deal with it dumbfuck, stop being a "wanker".
A French historian tells the truth you dumbfuck, as well as an english one too, France OWNED you bitch. The Franks came from the rhine valley of northeastern France you dumbfuck, engaylish man trying to hide his shame, Charlemagne occupied germany and saxony they ruled you dumbfuck, look at the saxon wars, we conquered you TWICE!!!
Yeah dumbfuck, the angevin were norman/French you dumbfuck not engaylish. You lost to prussians too dumbfuck, where in angeln, saxony, jutland today? In German hands you dumbfuck, we always lost? funny from the fall of the roman empire to the 1500's we were the most powerful army in western europe, you were conquered with ease by the peoples of France.
We won the most wars and lost the least, can't say the same about you engaylish queers, engayland never conquered France dumbfuck, France conquered england after Hastings, norman/french cavalry slicing down engaylish "warriors"
France conquered england, england was French for over 400 years.
Here's the proof, there's no engaylish influence in France at all, no engaylish influence in the French language, Prince Edward threw the French around, lol, Edward was a Frenchman you dumbfuck not engaylish, go on asshole with your lies and keep making me laugh stupid bitch.
Your crazy to think, that killing is fun in real life. What are you mentally ill or something. And besides You English pricks never managed to conquer France ever, for France was too big of a challenge for tiny island dwellers. You were even defeated by a few scots and Welsh rebels. Battle of Bannockburn, and Stirling. Both are English Agincourts. lol lol lol. Fort carillon, worst British defeat in the French and indian war. another agincourt.
brilliant excuses expect they are all Norman &many considered themselves English... Edward mmm funny French name...!!...LOL!!
King John wanted no Frenchmen on his soil...LOL!! & the rest of them like Henry V hated the French that he enjoyed killing prisoners who had just surrendered
Henry VI was a dual monarch something that a King of France NEVER possessed!
LOL!!
my gift is to sack Limoges again like the English did under Prince Edward
Yeah, but the rostbeefs nearly lost all control of the provinces in France in the 13the century after battle of Bouvines including Normandy. Henry never enjoyed killing prisoners of war. He had no choice but to do it because if he didnt. Then he risks the prospect that the French prisoners will rearm themselves from the battlefield and overwhelm the exhausted English forces. there is nothing wrong with killing POWs, unless you do it for fun and pleasure. But for a specific reason then i'm okay
All kings were english after 1204? Youre hilarious dumbfuck, keep telling your lame jokes, your kings were French until 1485, even the house of tudor, lancaster, and york took influence from the Plantagenet. John Beaufort from Champagne, France, LOL!!!
William I wasn't even French. He was Norman(The Normans/Norsemen came from Scandinavia). The Normans conquered the North west region of France long before the succession argument in England even started. To say that Edward I was French is ridiculous. His father Henry III considered himself very English, hence giving his son a very English name, i.e. Edward. In fact Henry III's father, King John, was certainly where the split between Normandy and England began.
In 800 years, we won 132 out of 185 wars, lost only 43, and tied 10 giving the French the best record of any country in europe, britain was conquered by romans, then danes, then norwegians, then French, you want proof of the French conquest of engayland, look at the Plantagenet dynasty, angevin dynasty, and the bayeux tapestry. Let's not forget the previous Frank conquest of Germany which included saxony, angeln, and jutland.
"During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
'The effect of the successes of Edward the Third and Henry the Fifth was to make France, for a time, a province of England. Those knights of Gascony and Guienne who had fought gallantly under the Black Prince were regarded by the English as men of an inferior breed, and were contemptuously excluded from honourable and lucrative commands.'
- "During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
In actual being King of England it meant that England had lands in France as a Kingdom
J Broussard: The Angevin Empire was in effect an English empire...
where is that beer bitch!! Leybourne in France named after an Englishmen called Roger Leybourne who was governor of Gascony which being an English colony in France
The HYW, 2 French dynasties fighting for power isn't an engaylish victory you dumbfuck, The only ones to ever rule France were French and italians no engaylish in France, the amount of engaylish palaces in england with French names are countless:)
You call backstabbing native americans and australian aborigines an empire? It doesn't take a man to gun down unarmed warriors and kill civilians or use biological warfare like you engaylish pussies always have.
- "During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
- "During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
Wrong dumbfuck the engaylish couldn't hold the Germans off on their own without allies, it was the French who held off 7 armored divisions while you british pussies ran, without that you'd be speaking german and saying hiel hitler. France with american and canadian allies liberate France no thanks to engayland, you talk about running? You ran away from your homelands in angeln and saxony after we conquered your ass bitch, oh yeah, you engaylish have a "honourable" history:)
Yeah the germans beat us in the prussian war with no allies, something you engaylish barbarians aren't capable of, Verdun first day 30,000 Frenchmen hold off 150,000 Germans, Somme brits first day 50,000 killed, you were saying....
France won WW1 on it's own thank you very much bitch, we were doing fine against the germans 4 years before you brits got involved.
What excuses dumbfuck, the prussians saved your asses at waterloo, it took coalitions to beat the French, you never beat the French on your own dumbfuck, you were always conquered your infancy dumbfuck, from romans, danes, norwegians, normans, French, France was only conquered by the romans, the romans and germans are the only ones proven to be equal to the French, the engaylish were too easy for us, French land victories over the brits, countless.
At Hastings look at those engaylish running from our swords and spears, oh the agony, for you dumbfuck engaylish assholes, better yet look at saxon wars, Charlemagne chased you out of your homeland.
Yeah dumbfuck look at the Frankish Empire, they conquered Germany.
Franks weren't german you dumbfuck, those are the ancestors of the French people, I would know I'm French so shut the fuck up asshole, look at Hastings how all those retreating anglo-saxons were cut down and look what happened to godwinson, better yet, look at the crowning of william and the Plantagenet in london.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but the Franks were a germanic tribe. But i respect your history. It's true Plantagenets' were a French family. England, ruled by France, England never ruled France. Vive la France. I'm half American, but i support France and a hater of Bashers and ignorant dick heads who know nothing about history.
You never ruled France engaylish pig, you couldn't even defend your country, from 1066 to 1485, the angevins and Plantagenet owned all of england and half of France, england was French for over 400 years.
You never ruled anything outside of britain engaylish faggot, The French ruled england from 1066 to 1485, you engaylish were owned by Frenchmen, you never won against France alone in anything, HYW, two French dynasties (Plantagenet vs Valois), no engaylish, you gay little islander monkey.
Dieu et mon droit was a quote from your French king Coeur de lion *Richard the lionheart", he spent 75% of his time in France, he barely knew any englisc, you mean Plantagenet holdings of France, english people were still fighting French rule at this time, unlike you the Scots halted French conquest.
You didn't do shit cunt, you outnumbered the germans by 1 million in normandy and still couldn't get by them. By the time you landed on normandy the americans and French already drove the nazis back, 50,000 brits surrendered to japs in phillipines? bataan death march? Poor engaylish performance.
Youre welcome for 1940, if it wasn't for France covering your retreat at Dunkerque, the germans would've easily stormed england. France with american allies liberated France from the germans no thanks to engayland, you were still stuck in normandy. BITCH!!!
engayland ruled France, great joke asshole, youre plantagenet rulers, and the angevins commanded the "english" forces in HYW, the engaylish were used as archers, while the angevins, bretons, gascon, burgundian, aquitanian fought against House of Valois France under House of Plantagenet england, the Plantagenet were the "caesars" of england, lol.
Various peoples of France (Normans, French, bretons, and flems) fought and conquered engayland in one battle, not to mention the rest of the battles they won against the english resistance during the conquest, 1/3 of the engaylish population migrated elsewhere to avoid French rule and btw from rulers of england from 1066 to 1485 are French.
You never ruled France engaylish pig, the only thing you ever beat France in was naval battles, engaylish barbarians aren't capable of conquering France on their own. 1/3 english is French, national anthem French, flag is French, mottos French. Edward was indeed French, Coeur de Lion (richard the lionheart) is the most iconic figure in engaylish folklore.
Normans were largely French decended. And william was the French king's vassel. Plus William's army composed of many French nobles and soldiers from different regions all over France.
Norman lords were all descended from Vikings/Norse
Names like Gunnar, Hrólfir, Rognvald, Poppa Sprota, Hedwiga, Rodolf, Ranulf, etc... Also in today's terms of nationalism in comparison... Normandy was practically independent of the French king,
The fact that they paid homage to the French monarchs meant nothing as they expanded & defended their territory at the expense of the French. ..
December 25, christmas day will be the 943 anniversary of the crowning of Guillame, king of england, cheers!!! normans were a tribe of France you dumbfuck, just like the engaylisc, lancastrians, manx, cornish of engayland.
"During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations. The Conqueror and his descendants were not Englishmen: most of them were born in France: they spent their lives in France: their speech was French: every high office was for a Frenchman: every acquisition on the Continent estranged them from our population".
Limoges, is that all? We conquered all of england, look at pevensay, hastings, dover, canterbury, etc. FYI, burgundie allies led and assisted you to Limoges as usual, engayland isn't capable of conquering France. Look at Siege of Calais 1559 which was sacked by the Plantagenet not engaylish"men".
Waht a funny comment since we won WWI for you since you mutinous armies were not willing to bear brunt of offensives.. hence why we captured more German prisoners than entire French army did!!
You didn't do shit dumbfuck, you needed us you dumbfuck that way we could help your ass and prevent engayland from getting invaded, youre welcome bitch. As before Verdun day 1 30k French vs 150k germans, French victory, Somme day 1 50,000 brits killed, we were doing fine long before you showed up bitch. You couldn't do shit against the germans without the american, French, polish, russian, canadian allies bitch.
WW1 Verdun day 1 30,000 French vs 150,000 Germans, French hold off, Somme day 1 50,000 brits killed. Liberation of Paris 1,000 French killed for 2500 germans killed and 3000 pows. engayland is a fucking joke look at your history and France's no comparison, France more dominant.
english had an empire in France? Richard the lionheart was english too just like the Plantagenet rulers of england too right? Typical engaylish, always hiding your defeats by falsifying history.
- "The small groups of Vikings that settled there adopted the language, religion and culture of the French majority. After a generation or two, the Normans were indistinguishable from the French".
Wrong the normans were a vassal to the king of France you dumbfuck, and it was various peoples of France (bretons, normans, Francs) that conquered england dumbfuck.
French kingdom of england over 400 YEARS!!! english empire in France? never. agincourt is a myth, if it wasn't for your Plantagenet rulers shielding you, you wouldv'e lost just like at Val de Saire in 1001.
youre enlightened and I respect you because you tell history the way it actually happened, not like those engaylish pigs who write it in their own image. but there were the Franks who were germanic and the Franc (Franconville, Ile de France note the name France) who were a gaulish tribe.
No dumbfuck, the Francs (Francais) were gaulish you dumbfuck, I would know, I'm French and honored to be French, Charlemagne was a Franc who died in aachen you dumbfuck.
The prussians beat the French, something the engaylish have never done. HYW two French dynasties fighting for power isn't an engaylish victory you dumbfuck. The Franks kicked your ass in saxony, beat you for west africa, usa, parts of caribbean you were saying bitch...
The angevin dynasty indeed ruled half of France in addition to all of england:)
France conquered you bitch, the evidence is there, your language in 1/3 French, your mottos are French, "union jack" is French, God save the queen is French. The prussians beat the France on their own, something you british barbarians aren't capable of doing. Youre right, France as a nation didn't conquer england, only three tribes of France were needed to do the job bitch!
Quel est le titre original du documentaire? Trés intéressant, j'aimerais l'écouter en entier. Merci!
ASCfreak 1 week ago
BRITISH SILVER BOXES.....
Jastrzab78 2 months ago
Why is this battle NEVER mentioned????? Always battle of abraham and quebecers weep and get all angry and anglophones get snotty. The last battle for north america that lasted for two hours in the winter and the only thing that determines it is whose reinforcements come first. This battle was far more important for the sense of pride on both sides in my opinion.
DraconianDreams 8 months ago
hahaha couldnt beat the natives in open war.. so they used the small pox virus phaha thats genocide!!! an ugly stain in british history
SpainBlood001 9 months ago 10
@SpainBlood001
yea, cause spanish never murdered like millions of natives with disease and terror...
xTheGerbilx 1 month ago
where is the video?
bcelmore59 11 months ago
Before the French and Indian war there was only one catholic church in the British empire allowed to have mass can you guess which one?
markmason1000 11 months ago
"Saved the lives of better men". What a sick fuck.
CanadianGuerrilla 1 year ago
@CanadianGuerrilla
not to defend him (I agree), but unfortunately, those were the times, of which he was a product.
Albukhshi 1 year ago
@Albukhshi that was not really the time. Even in that time what he did was unconventional.
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17
I wasn't talking about the way he killed the natives-which was illegal, not just unconventional. I was talking about his attitude towards the Native being killed like this (one of derision, even celebration).
Albukhshi 1 year ago
@Albukhshi if you are only talking about the attitude toward Natives then it was only the conventional English attitude toward natives because French people were not anti-natives. The great peace of 1701, the French and Indian war and the existence of the Métis people are good exemple...
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17 Those are decent examples. What about when Louis XIV waged war on the Iroquois in 1661? That was a French monarch waging war on innocent natives. This was likely only because they were allied with the English. Yes, English colonists were allied with natives as well - you just never hear about it. It's all a matter of circumstance. The Americans sided with the French because they shared a greater, common enemy in the English. Never forget the Quebec Act and the American reaction to it
SideOfLife84 1 year ago
@SideOfLife84 innocent natives who commited a genocide against the Hurons and tryed to wipe out the Algonquin. In the end the French sign a great peace in 1701 with th Iroquois, they ended that natives conflict. 90% of natives were allied with the French in 1754. It's not call the French and Indian war for fun, Iroquois have always been neutral and they had sign a treaty of peace with the French. Few of them join the English. Never forget what the British did in Québec before the Quebec act.
Patriote17 1 year ago
@SideOfLife84 during Pontiac rebellion, Iroquois, Hurons and Algonquin fought side by side only because the French united them with the Great peace of 1701. They were still distinct nation, they were not annexed...
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17 The French didnt unite them, Pontiac did. Sure we were allied with the French, but even after France surrendered we still kept fighting. Im also sick of this Genocide you Euros claim happened, cause it didnt. We absorbed these tribes, we didnt just massacre everybody like the Europeans had been doing. It was infact the Euros who brought the Iroquois to an all out war with the Algonquin when Champlain came and attcked us for no reason.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan Pontiac was a Métis and he had a lot of respect for the French. I recently learn that in a documentary made by the Natives historian Bernard Assiniwi.
Patriote17 1 year ago
@kirokyukan it's not me who claim Iroquois commited a genocide, but the Hurons and Algonquins. Indeed the Iroquois absorbed the Hurons, some were kill, some were eaten, some were adopted. Iroquois did the same with the French, many French woman and children were adopted by the Iroquois. Hurons were once a great nation now they live in a small territory near Québec.
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17 Iroquois were once a great nation too. It was outside interference that brought both Nations to our current status. Thats the first I heard of Pontiac being a Metis, but many Native ancestors have disputed heritage. Im wondering what kind of Archeological evidence that exist to prove the Haudenosaunee were indeed cannibals? I know the stories, but I'm also well aware of Europeans tendancies to declare every new culture they came across as cannibals.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan they were cannibal, but not in the horrible sense. They only eated vital part and didn't killed people with the intention of eating them. For them eating their death was better then letting the insect and microbe do it, letting a corpse to rot was an insult. They eated vital part because they believed that the death memory and soul continue to live inside them, not because they were hungry or evil. I am not sure all the Iroquois were cannibal, but I know that the Mohawks were.
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17 I agree with your take on how we may have practiced cannibalism, infact it fits in with our natural way of life, but thats not the way its usually reported. Most so called "eye witness" accounts make wild claims of quartering the kills, hence using it for meat. As such I feel the need for Archeological evidence to prove either version.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan the Algonquin probably demonized the Iroquois, Mohawks means Man-eater in Algonquin. There has been a lot of war, propaganda existed in that time, the Algonquin and later the French probably use the cannibalism of the Iroquois to demonized them. The Huron were also cannibal and were ally, they didn't seem to care.
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17 The Iroquois society were quite similar to ancient Sparta : the martial traditions allowed, in certain terms, the heart or other part of enemy bodies to be consumed by warriors. We can't imagine a hole native village gather in front of a giant grill with human cooking :)
KroM234 5 months ago
@kirokyukan
Champlain didn't attack Iroquois for "no reason". He needed the help of natives and when the Hurons asked him to help them defeat their long time ennemies he accepted.
Robineux99 4 months ago
@Robineux99 If thats how you wish to spin the tale. Doesnt change the fact that without European interference the war never would have escalated to the scale it did.
kirokyukan 4 months ago
@Robineux99 Champlain needed the help of Natives, so his solution was to attack natives? What kind of backwards reasoning is that?
kirokyukan 4 months ago
@kirokyukan the "Natives" were not a unified group, Champlain sided with the Hurons and Algonquin against the Iroquois. The reasoning of Champlain was probably "what the hell I am doing here" and he decided to follow his allies. The war between the Hurons, Algonquin and Iroquois was already started.
Patriote17 4 months ago
@Patriote17 "I had come with no other intention than to make war, for we had with us only arms and not merchandise for barter, as [the Indians] had been led to understand." - Samuel de Champlain
Sounds to me like Champlain interrupted the Great Peace that was happening at the time the Europeans arrived and began pitting their Native allies against one another. His Allies thought he came to trade according to his own words, turns out he came to make war.
kirokyukan 4 months ago
@kirokyukan I am sorry but your citation is false, a simple research show me it was written in the book Rebecca Bearce, by Lionel Nebeker, on March 22, 1987, word for word, in english. It have absolutly nothing to do with Champlain. Champlain was a trader and his only intentions in N.America were commercial, fur trade was the only thing that matters. The Mohawks attacked and almost exterminated the Huron, I sincerly doubt they were following Champlain orders, they also attacked the French.
Patriote17 4 months ago
@Patriote17 The Mohawks were only fighting back after Champlain assassinated their leaders.
kirokyukan 3 months ago
@Albukhshi
Unfortunately, this is true.
CanadianGuerrilla 1 year ago
@CanadianGuerrilla it's not really true, not all English were psycho like Amherst, what he did was unconventional and against all European rule of war. It's a shame that Amherst have a street with his name in Montréal even if the population sign a petition with thouzands of signature so that that street change name. English population of Montreal call us racist because of that but they don't seem to realize they defend a psycho killer man who commited a genocide and created biological warfare.
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17
I agree 100%. It was pretty unusual and out-ofthe-blue for someone to do that. Man, I'd forgotten that they named a street after him. That's just aweful! My family's split between BC and Ontario, so I love learning about all kinds of Canadian history. I'm using family records and Ancestry.ca to see if I've got some French Canadian blood in there.
CanadianGuerrilla 1 year ago
@CanadianGuerrilla Ahh.. any sicker than slicing a man to death and knifing his scalp off? ..
SideOfLife84 1 year ago
@SideOfLife84
Yes, in fact it is, because they did it to innocent Natives. Don't get me wrong, the Canadians and Natives scalped their fair share of bystanders, but this is just a whole other gruesome level.
CanadianGuerrilla 1 year ago
If the french are so god like in these vids, how did they lose canada
skintrade 1 year ago
@skintrade French are not god, if you would have listen the video you would know that France never send reinforcement to Québec, that is why they lose, because they didn't care. France help the American couple of years later...
Patriote17 1 year ago
@Patriote17
north american.
north american narrators :P
Alienmad462 1 year ago
Are these video clips taken from the documentary "Canada: A People's History"?
Merci beaucoup. Je me souviens.
swcrowe 1 year ago
@swcrowe most of them, I also used the War that made America and others to make my Québec History videos...
Patriote17 1 year ago
ah...a true frenchmen knows how and when to surrender.
kylejones7 1 year ago
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@kylejones7 Only English is capable of forgetting all the defeats that the French people during the history imposed on him(her). France fought whole Europe during 2000 years without having the sea to protect itself. It is not the case of England. Even during our worst defeat of 1940, it is French people who sacrificed themselves so that you can return to your island in. It's true! But you the English people, naturally, when you run away it is not a defeat, everybody knows him (it) !!!!
fortcarillon 1 year ago
@kylejones7 And a true Englishman knows just when to surrender his wife and/or daughter to a Frenchman with superior social and love skills. Keep your idiot comments in your stuffy Brit head; no one has any use for them here.
fullofhate77 1 year ago
first biological warfare in Canada
vik238 1 year ago
french canadian propaganda bullshit, the moral of this video is that it's ok for the french to take over the world but nobodyelse is, fuckin french they we worse then the british
anlaff 1 year ago
@anlaff
It's an American documentary not a French canadian one.
British imperialism made the first ethnic cleansing (Great Upheaval), the first genocide (Great Irish Famine) and the first concentration camps (Boer wars) of modern histrory.
This is not propaganda, these are facts.
MaxRWF 1 year ago 6
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Durandal1492 1 year ago
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@MaxRWF
It's an English Canadian (federal) documentry, not an American one. Apart from that you are right.
Durandal1492 1 year ago
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@MaxRWF
It's an English Canadian (federal) documentry, not an American one. Apart from that you are right.
Durandal1492 1 year ago
@MaxRWF I'm afraid your facts are off
1st recorded Ethnic cleansing - Edward I of England expelled all Jews living in England in 1290 - british imperialism didn't exist, Briton didn't exist... (If you ignore the bible which I like to do, but the book suggests the idea was around before 1290)
1st Genocide - Li of Zhou 828 BC
1st Concentration camps - Russia in the Bar confederation rebellion or Americans for the Cherokee in 1830
having got all 3 wrong be careful what you represent as facts
Delogros 3 months ago
@MaxRWF 1st Genocide - Li of Zhou 828 BC
1st Concentration camps - Russia in the Bar confederation rebellion or Americans for the Cherokee in 1830
you are an idiot :)
OW41N 3 months ago
@OW41N And you think that it excuses in any way the fact that British acted like total assholes ???
MaxRWF 3 months ago
@MaxRWF what nation didnt act like total assholes in that day and age? war is war, worse attrocities have been comitted
OW41N 3 months ago
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@MaxRWF we win, you lose, get over it
engliscwarrior 2 months ago
@MaxRWF
This is not an American documentary at all - it is produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, initially in English with French dubs for distribution in Quebec Province. It's correct title is "Canada: a People's History".
Also, it has been argued that the use of biological warfare against the Huron and their allies constitutes a form of genocide on the part of the British Empire, as does their extermination of the Newfoundland Beothuk.
NotoriousBigKeegz 1 month ago
@NotoriousBigKeegz
Together with the much less violent expulsion of the Acadians - who, as a result, have developed into distinct cultures around the world, including the Cajuns of Louisiana, these actions definitely constitute substantial crimes on the part of the Empire, which has yet to be brought to any justice for its treatment of ethnic National minorities within the nation of Canada.
NotoriousBigKeegz 1 month ago
@MaxRWF
what about the spanish? they destroyed entire south-africa, the chinese have been known for 'concentration' camps since the early 100's
xTheGerbilx 1 month ago
@MaxRWF Try the Roman Empire
Ereldor 1 month ago
@MaxRWF Look up - "Huguenots"
legushka123 1 week ago
@anlaff Va chier mon esti de vautour. LEs français sont ceux qui ont moins massacré les indiens d'Amérique.
BobbyBaloney 1 year ago
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@anlaff
"french canadian propaganda bullshit, the moral of this video is that it's ok for the french to take over the world but nobodyelse is, fuckin french they we worse then the british"
Yes yes the truth hurts...
Robineux99 4 months ago
the sound of this film is low but very exciting movie
lazoni1900 1 year ago
87Bourbon87 :
There was one time all of France was under English occupation and that was right after the Battle of Waterloo when the Duke of Wellington became Commander in Chief of occupied France. Wellington ruled France for three years during which time he helped the defeated French to put their finances back in order. At the end of three years Wellington VOLUNTARIY left France for home.
NECHOII 2 years ago
WOW...the British were using biological weapons back then, although that was not a honorable method to win the war.
juron76 2 years ago
Continuing...87Bourbon87 would like us to believe that the English ( and the English speaking Americans ) have had no impact on France, culturally or otherwise in any way. Somehow I doubt that.
NECHOII 2 years ago
yeah he doubts that France never lost the Napoleonic wars...
now that is hilarious!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Wrong dumbfuck, France and engayland had not been in that many wars, we won five coalitions dumbfuck, you only won two seed the difference or are you that stupid, personally I thinks youre just that stupid.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
yes they have dick head...
we won most & we won in the end...
DEAL WITH IT!
Stop being a comical Ali!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
The angevins were an empire in england from the French region of anjou, you lost you mean we beat you, you deal with it dumbfuck, stop being a "wanker".
Dieu et mont droit,
VIVA LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
A French historian thinks otherwise!
LOL!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
A French historian tells the truth you dumbfuck, as well as an english one too, France OWNED you bitch. The Franks came from the rhine valley of northeastern France you dumbfuck, engaylish man trying to hide his shame, Charlemagne occupied germany and saxony they ruled you dumbfuck, look at the saxon wars, we conquered you TWICE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
'A French historian tells the truth you dumbfuck'
yeah just look at J Broussard on the Angevin empire
'The Angevin empire was in effect an English empire...'
cheers for backing me up on that!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Yeah dumbfuck, the angevin were norman/French you dumbfuck not engaylish. You lost to prussians too dumbfuck, where in angeln, saxony, jutland today? In German hands you dumbfuck, we always lost? funny from the fall of the roman empire to the 1500's we were the most powerful army in western europe, you were conquered with ease by the peoples of France.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
most powerful army in Europe delusional as you failed to win wars!
you couldn't even win the Dutch war
ROFL!!
England conquered France after Agincourt Englishbowmen chopping up French knights...
French learnt the hard way to fight...
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
We won the most wars and lost the least, can't say the same about you engaylish queers, engayland never conquered France dumbfuck, France conquered england after Hastings, norman/french cavalry slicing down engaylish "warriors"
engayland learnt the hard way to fight.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
England conquered France dumbitch
here is the proof
look at Limoges their population has so much English blood in them as they throttled like the town was.
Prince Edward sure knew how to throw around the French!
:D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Wrong dumbfuck,
France conquered england, england was French for over 400 years.
Here's the proof, there's no engaylish influence in France at all, no engaylish influence in the French language, Prince Edward threw the French around, lol, Edward was a Frenchman you dumbfuck not engaylish, go on asshole with your lies and keep making me laugh stupid bitch.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Edward was a Frenchman?!
mmmmm LOL!! a man who hated the French & enjoyed killing them as well taking French nobles alive..
LOL!! PAWNED!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Your crazy to think, that killing is fun in real life. What are you mentally ill or something. And besides You English pricks never managed to conquer France ever, for France was too big of a challenge for tiny island dwellers. You were even defeated by a few scots and Welsh rebels. Battle of Bannockburn, and Stirling. Both are English Agincourts. lol lol lol. Fort carillon, worst British defeat in the French and indian war. another agincourt.
expertstrategy 2 years ago
Yes we did. But we won Flodden as well
: D
Also French surrender of Louisbourg 6,000 French prisoners & Montreal at least 4,000.
Agincourt was answered with a humiliating peace treaty known as Troyes. Carilon was answered with yet another humiliating treaty for France!
LOL!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
French kings of england
Guillaume,Guillaume ll,Henry l,Stephen,Maude,Henry ll,Coeur de lion,Sans terre,Henry lll,Edward l,Edward ll,Edward lll,Richard ll,Henry lV,Henry V
,Henry Vl,Edward lV,Edward V,Richard lll
a gift from one to another, merry x mas asshole piggy!!!
Dieu et mont droit
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
lol!
brilliant excuses expect they are all Norman &many considered themselves English... Edward mmm funny French name...!!...LOL!!
King John wanted no Frenchmen on his soil...LOL!! & the rest of them like Henry V hated the French that he enjoyed killing prisoners who had just surrendered
Henry VI was a dual monarch something that a King of France NEVER possessed!
LOL!!
my gift is to sack Limoges again like the English did under Prince Edward
happy xmas Froggy!!
: D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Yeah, but the rostbeefs nearly lost all control of the provinces in France in the 13the century after battle of Bouvines including Normandy. Henry never enjoyed killing prisoners of war. He had no choice but to do it because if he didnt. Then he risks the prospect that the French prisoners will rearm themselves from the battlefield and overwhelm the exhausted English forces. there is nothing wrong with killing POWs, unless you do it for fun and pleasure. But for a specific reason then i'm okay
expertstrategy 2 years ago
All your kings were French just like ours piggy fatfuck.
Most of the Plantagenet barely knew any english and
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
All of our kings were English after 1204!despite fact Henry I actually claimed Normandy as part of the English crown in 1107!!
ha ha!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
All kings were english after 1204? Youre hilarious dumbfuck, keep telling your lame jokes, your kings were French until 1485, even the house of tudor, lancaster, and york took influence from the Plantagenet. John Beaufort from Champagne, France, LOL!!!
Dieu et mon droit,
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago 2
@87Bourbon87
William I wasn't even French. He was Norman(The Normans/Norsemen came from Scandinavia). The Normans conquered the North west region of France long before the succession argument in England even started. To say that Edward I was French is ridiculous. His father Henry III considered himself very English, hence giving his son a very English name, i.e. Edward. In fact Henry III's father, King John, was certainly where the split between Normandy and England began.
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LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
In 800 years, we won 132 out of 185 wars, lost only 43, and tied 10 giving the French the best record of any country in europe, britain was conquered by romans, then danes, then norwegians, then French, you want proof of the French conquest of engayland, look at the Plantagenet dynasty, angevin dynasty, and the bayeux tapestry. Let's not forget the previous Frank conquest of Germany which included saxony, angeln, and jutland.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Frank conquest of Germany ?!
DELUDED FUCKER!
Franks were German dumshit!
They conquered France then became Frenchman Charlemagne was German from Aachen BITCH!
Germans conquer you bitch like they will do so over again,, again!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
"During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
Thomas Babington Macauley
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
'The effect of the successes of Edward the Third and Henry the Fifth was to make France, for a time, a province of England. Those knights of Gascony and Guienne who had fought gallantly under the Black Prince were regarded by the English as men of an inferior breed, and were contemptuously excluded from honourable and lucrative commands.'
Thomas Babington Macauley
give me my wine BIATCH!!
ROOOFFFLLL!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
- "During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
Thomas Babington Macauley
oh how painful the truth is huh bitch...
Dieu et mont droit
Le reine le veult
"God save the queen"
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
In actual being King of England it meant that England had lands in France as a Kingdom
J Broussard: The Angevin Empire was in effect an English empire...
where is that beer bitch!! Leybourne in France named after an Englishmen called Roger Leybourne who was governor of Gascony which being an English colony in France
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
- "The value of French Resistance was equal to 10 to 15 divisions at the time of the landings".
Dwight D. Eisenhower
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
'I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me.'
George Patton
France surrendered in 1940 For France the war is over!!
End of story...
HOWL!!
: D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
The HYW, 2 French dynasties fighting for power isn't an engaylish victory you dumbfuck, The only ones to ever rule France were French and italians no engaylish in France, the amount of engaylish palaces in england with French names are countless:)
Dieu et mont droit
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
You call backstabbing native americans and australian aborigines an empire? It doesn't take a man to gun down unarmed warriors and kill civilians or use biological warfare like you engaylish pussies always have.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Well France can say it had hand killing Tutsi's in Rwanda stupid prick
France raped Tutsis & helped with Genocide...
hypocrite
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
- "During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
Thomas Babington Macauley
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
'The Angevin empire was effectively an English empire in France'
J. Boussard - a French historian...
PAWNED!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
-"The French held 7 german divisions in Dunkirk. England wouldn't have been able to carry on the war without them".
Winston Churchill
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
The French couldn't hold any Germans without surrendering in large numbers...
oh look Sedan has fallen
again?!!!
WTF?!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
- "During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
Thomas Babington Macauley
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Again a French historian thinks otherwise
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Wrong dumbfuck the engaylish couldn't hold the Germans off on their own without allies, it was the French who held off 7 armored divisions while you british pussies ran, without that you'd be speaking german and saying hiel hitler. France with american and canadian allies liberate France no thanks to engayland, you talk about running? You ran away from your homelands in angeln and saxony after we conquered your ass bitch, oh yeah, you engaylish have a "honourable" history:)
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
The French couldn't hol the Germans with allies....
look at Franco Prussian war
luckily France had British help in WWI
THEN WE SAVED YOUR ASSES IN WWII!
Don't make excuse about Dunkirk Brits were only 10% of allied force in 1940
But in 1944 we were 70% of allied force of English speaking liberators
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Yeah the germans beat us in the prussian war with no allies, something you engaylish barbarians aren't capable of, Verdun first day 30,000 Frenchmen hold off 150,000 Germans, Somme brits first day 50,000 killed, you were saying....
France won WW1 on it's own thank you very much bitch, we were doing fine against the germans 4 years before you brits got involved.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
LOL!
Yes you lost to Prussians now you are making excuses..
at least we didn't lose far more during the Nivelle offensive which effectively put France out of the war as an offensive means
Leave it to us Brits to spearhead the offensives & the French can follow so they don;t mutinous....ROFL!!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
What excuses dumbfuck, the prussians saved your asses at waterloo, it took coalitions to beat the French, you never beat the French on your own dumbfuck, you were always conquered your infancy dumbfuck, from romans, danes, norwegians, normans, French, France was only conquered by the romans, the romans and germans are the only ones proven to be equal to the French, the engaylish were too easy for us, French land victories over the brits, countless.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
The Prussians arrived at the victory celebrations..
We redcoats were wooped Boney's butt every time he tired to take the ridge...
look at the those French grenadiers running away from our volleys.
Look at the French horsemen being repelled at the redoats squares..
Look at the French being chucked from Hougaumont!!
ROOOOFFFFLLL!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
At Hastings look at those engaylish running from our swords and spears, oh the agony, for you dumbfuck engaylish assholes, better yet look at saxon wars, Charlemagne chased you out of your homeland.
Dieu et mont droit:)
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
LOL!
At Agincourt look at the French being chopped into meat.... then surrendering then chopped into meat AGAIN!
Double whammy!
BITCH SLAP!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Yeah dumbfuck look at the Frankish Empire, they conquered Germany.
Franks weren't german you dumbfuck, those are the ancestors of the French people, I would know I'm French so shut the fuck up asshole, look at Hastings how all those retreating anglo-saxons were cut down and look what happened to godwinson, better yet, look at the crowning of william and the Plantagenet in london.
ASS KICKED!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Franls originated as tribes from North West Germany.
Charlegmagne was from Aachen
accuthung! Gotten himmel.
Deutsch Deutsch Deutsch!!!
LOLLOLOLOLO!!
France pawned by Germans!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
I'm sorry to break it to you, but the Franks were a germanic tribe. But i respect your history. It's true Plantagenets' were a French family. England, ruled by France, England never ruled France. Vive la France. I'm half American, but i support France and a hater of Bashers and ignorant dick heads who know nothing about history.
expertstrategy 2 years ago
You should read the Conquest: English Kingdom of France.
That is proof that England did rule Fance & what's more France had a Dual Monarchy
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
yeah, but England never ruled all of France completely only a large portion until Joan made it backfire when Charles VII was crowned king of France.
expertstrategy 2 years ago
but we ruled France longer than Napoleon controlled parts of Europe...
: D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
You never ruled France engaylish pig, you couldn't even defend your country, from 1066 to 1485, the angevins and Plantagenet owned all of england and half of France, england was French for over 400 years.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
We ruled parts of France indefinitely..
some of it for 300 years other 250 years!
France was part of the English kingdom officially for over 20 years!
deal with it..!
we have had Channel islands for over 900 years.
The islanders spoke French until the 19th century..!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
You never ruled anything outside of britain engaylish faggot, The French ruled england from 1066 to 1485, you engaylish were owned by Frenchmen, you never won against France alone in anything, HYW, two French dynasties (Plantagenet vs Valois), no engaylish, you gay little islander monkey.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Christmas Day around the corner
December 25, 2009
943 anniversary of French conquest of england.
In the words of Coeur de Lion,
"Dieu et mon droit"
La reine le veult,
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Diet et mon droit is for Englands holdings in France so that an English king dosen't pay respect to any person other than god!
Hence screw any French king who thinks I'm a vassal!!
:D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Dieu et mon droit was a quote from your French king Coeur de lion *Richard the lionheart", he spent 75% of his time in France, he barely knew any englisc, you mean Plantagenet holdings of France, english people were still fighting French rule at this time, unlike you the Scots halted French conquest.
Dieu et mon droit,
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
'France for a time was a province of England'.
Thomas Babbington MaCauley
: D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Wrong dumbfuck, France claims the channel islands not engayland.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
-"The French held 7 german divisions in Dunkirk. England wouldn't have been able to carry on the war without them".
Winston Churchill
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Why we rescued any Frenchmen at all is any wonder!
1.8 million surrender!!
piss poor French performance!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
You didn't do shit cunt, you outnumbered the germans by 1 million in normandy and still couldn't get by them. By the time you landed on normandy the americans and French already drove the nazis back, 50,000 brits surrendered to japs in phillipines? bataan death march? Poor engaylish performance.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
- "The value of French Resistance was equal to 10 to 15 divisions at the time of the landings".
Dwight D. Eisenhower
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
your wecome for 1944
if it weren't for us Brits or Americans you'd still be speaking German or Russian!
so tell me of the Horst Wessel
sing it to me!
BITCH!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Youre welcome for 1940, if it wasn't for France covering your retreat at Dunkerque, the germans would've easily stormed england. France with american allies liberated France from the germans no thanks to engayland, you were still stuck in normandy. BITCH!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
"angli et Franci"
Bayeux Tapestry
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Bayeux Tapestry!
propaganda..
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Bayeux Tapestry written by King Guillame of england in latin "angli et franci"!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
engayland ruled France, great joke asshole, youre plantagenet rulers, and the angevins commanded the "english" forces in HYW, the engaylish were used as archers, while the angevins, bretons, gascon, burgundian, aquitanian fought against House of Valois France under House of Plantagenet england, the Plantagenet were the "caesars" of england, lol.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
from 1204 plantagenet were forced to being English & form then there they considered themselves English banning foreigners like Frenchmen.
Simon de Montfort claimed himself an Englishmen & not French so that he would not be kicked out of England.
Even Napoleon claimed De Montfort as 'one of the greatest Englishmen'
ROFL!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Various peoples of France (Normans, French, bretons, and flems) fought and conquered engayland in one battle, not to mention the rest of the battles they won against the english resistance during the conquest, 1/3 of the engaylish population migrated elsewhere to avoid French rule and btw from rulers of england from 1066 to 1485 are French.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
You never ruled France engaylish pig, the only thing you ever beat France in was naval battles, engaylish barbarians aren't capable of conquering France on their own. 1/3 english is French, national anthem French, flag is French, mottos French. Edward was indeed French, Coeur de Lion (richard the lionheart) is the most iconic figure in engaylish folklore.
Dieu et mont droit,
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
England was never ruled by France
It was ruled by Normans & their ancstors from Normandy.
Normandy wasn't taken until 1204.
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Normans were largely French decended. And william was the French king's vassel. Plus William's army composed of many French nobles and soldiers from different regions all over France.
expertstrategy 2 years ago
Norman lords were all descended from Vikings/Norse
Names like Gunnar, Hrólfir, Rognvald, Poppa Sprota, Hedwiga, Rodolf, Ranulf, etc... Also in today's terms of nationalism in comparison... Normandy was practically independent of the French king,
The fact that they paid homage to the French monarchs meant nothing as they expanded & defended their territory at the expense of the French. ..
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
December 25, christmas day will be the 943 anniversary of the crowning of Guillame, king of england, cheers!!! normans were a tribe of France you dumbfuck, just like the engaylisc, lancastrians, manx, cornish of engayland.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
LOL!!
How about this
1759
2009..
Annus Mirablus 1759
250 years!
I will drink to that!
then we have also Annus Mirablus 1762 (2012)
oh what a joy that will be!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
"During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations. The Conqueror and his descendants were not Englishmen: most of them were born in France: they spent their lives in France: their speech was French: every high office was for a Frenchman: every acquisition on the Continent estranged them from our population".
Thomas Babington Macauley
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
France for a time was a proince of England
Thomas Babbington MaCauley
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Limoges, is that all? We conquered all of england, look at pevensay, hastings, dover, canterbury, etc. FYI, burgundie allies led and assisted you to Limoges as usual, engayland isn't capable of conquering France. Look at Siege of Calais 1559 which was sacked by the Plantagenet not engaylish"men".
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
LOL!
more French excuses to hide their defeats!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
"England is a french colony that turned upside down"
Georges Clemenceau
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Georges Clemenceau
the man that started WWII!
Waht a funny comment since we won WWI for you since you mutinous armies were not willing to bear brunt of offensives.. hence why we captured more German prisoners than entire French army did!!
ROOOFFFFLLL!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
You didn't do shit dumbfuck, you needed us you dumbfuck that way we could help your ass and prevent engayland from getting invaded, youre welcome bitch. As before Verdun day 1 30k French vs 150k germans, French victory, Somme day 1 50,000 brits killed, we were doing fine long before you showed up bitch. You couldn't do shit against the germans without the american, French, polish, russian, canadian allies bitch.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
- "The Free French had been of inestimable value in the campaign."
Dwight D. Eisenhower
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
they were of inestimable value to the Nazis as well..
ROOOFFFLL"!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
WW1 Verdun day 1 30,000 French vs 150,000 Germans, French hold off, Somme day 1 50,000 brits killed. Liberation of Paris 1,000 French killed for 2500 germans killed and 3000 pows. engayland is a fucking joke look at your history and France's no comparison, France more dominant.
Dieu et mon droit,
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
- "Their business is war, and they do their business".
R. Kipling
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Expect when they ain't mutinying!
: D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
english had an empire in France? Richard the lionheart was english too just like the Plantagenet rulers of england too right? Typical engaylish, always hiding your defeats by falsifying history.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
- "The small groups of Vikings that settled there adopted the language, religion and culture of the French majority. After a generation or two, the Normans were indistinguishable from the French".
Encyclopaedia Britannica
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
because they used them as their bitches?
yep since Normans conquered that area this can only be very true!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
Wrong the normans were a vassal to the king of France you dumbfuck, and it was various peoples of France (bretons, normans, Francs) that conquered england dumbfuck.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
1/3 of the engaylish population migrated elsewhere due to the failed resistance.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
The Plantagenet owned england and half of France.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
English kingdom of France was such of 20 years.
& with Pope's approval!!
: D
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
French kingdom of england over 400 YEARS!!! english empire in France? never. agincourt is a myth, if it wasn't for your Plantagenet rulers shielding you, you wouldv'e lost just like at Val de Saire in 1001.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
expertstrategy,
youre enlightened and I respect you because you tell history the way it actually happened, not like those engaylish pigs who write it in their own image. but there were the Franks who were germanic and the Franc (Franconville, Ile de France note the name France) who were a gaulish tribe.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
no they were Germanic in origins.
Deutsch dick head.
Charlemagne was from Aachen
ACHTUNG! GOTTEN HIMMEL
LOL!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
No dumbfuck, the Francs (Francais) were gaulish you dumbfuck, I would know, I'm French and honored to be French, Charlemagne was a Franc who died in aachen you dumbfuck.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
Wrong
Charlemagne was born in Belgium & died at Aachen!!
ROOOFFFLLL!!
France PANWED by Germamns
remember 1871 January when Paris was surrendered to Germans?!
Krupp!!
HOWL!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago
@LordGeorgeRodney
England were also "panwed" by germans. They were stuck on their island defending their airspace from the luftwaffe and could do not much aside that.
Robineux99 4 months ago
@Robineux99
Really how come we defeated them in 1940? Also in North Africa Malta and the Mediterranean and Atlantic?
LordGeorgeRodney 4 months ago
The prussians beat the French, something the engaylish have never done. HYW two French dynasties fighting for power isn't an engaylish victory you dumbfuck. The Franks kicked your ass in saxony, beat you for west africa, usa, parts of caribbean you were saying bitch...
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
The angevin dynasty indeed ruled half of France in addition to all of england:)
France conquered you bitch, the evidence is there, your language in 1/3 French, your mottos are French, "union jack" is French, God save the queen is French. The prussians beat the France on their own, something you british barbarians aren't capable of doing. Youre right, France as a nation didn't conquer england, only three tribes of France were needed to do the job bitch!
Dieu et mont droit
Le reine le veult.
87Bourbon87 2 years ago
The prussians beat the France on their own
yes they did becausr they were always better than you...deluded French military power..
We beat on our own India, Caribbean, Nouvelle France & even on seas when France had allies they still got pawned!!
LordGeorgeRodney 2 years ago