what classifies as getting angry. Ive heard him angry many times. And that anger level you get to usually comes from reaching a point where you can't play anymore and your just ripping on one high vibrato note. I'd say Mayer is just too capable to get exhausted and sloppy therefore sounding extra clean at all times which to you just sounds like blues with no feeling. To me, its excellent technique. And once again, I have heard him angry.
@RollsRoy3 WHen you listen to SRV play Leave My Girl Alone.....THAT is angry blues thats perfect too...Mayer doesnt ever come anywhere near that. He seems to have based his entire career off Life Without You, which is a beautiful song, but is such because it shows SRV's versatility. He can go from gut-wrenching mean-ass murder blues to a tender ballad about another side of loss. Mayer just has one speed, and thats lame. Hes like Clapton after rehab. A pointless shadow of the blues.
@scottelliottmusic Well i would agree that absolutely no one plays like Stevie Ray Vaughan.Too bad we can't continue this debate in person. And you diss on clapton after being out of rehab cause he lost so much flare, well I think we've all heard SRV live at Montreaux in 85, that performance has such a lack of flare and definitely not one of his best. My point is you like who you like, but John Mayer is sick and can own in all areas of his career.
@RollsRoy3 Yeah, Hes a great musician. I just dont think he offers much "new vigor" as a blues guitarist. Hes more reminiscent of Trey Anistasio of Phish than ,say, Albert King or Billy Gibbons. He has more of the technical jazzy style which is cool, but not really unique in my opinion. I hear more than a few music school guys who play exactly the same way on a regular basis. I can just tell he studied the guitar as opposed to absorbing it so its not exciting to me.
And I wouldn't care except he gets all this hype as the blues guitar icon of his generation when I would say Derek Trucks, John Frusciante or Jack White are more deserving. Mayer just wrote a lot of chick ballads so he's more engrained in the mass cultural mind. In my view, hes a cheesy teeny-bopper pop star who happens to be a skilled guitar player. He got famous for acoustic ballads, not powerful guitar work. He just likes to show off in concerts. He should record a 13min guitar heavy track.
@scottelliottmusic So you're saying someone who has mainstream appeal is just "hype"? I think he writes his own music, he's one of the few chick ballad writers who write them based on their own experience, by themself. He can play like a beast though! That's enough for me that a blues guitarist, albeit not pure blues, is popular in the charts today :)
@MrPocketGuitar No, his mainstream success is real...thats not hype. His guitar skills have little to do with that. His breathy acoustic ballads about being some emo heartbroken romantic are, (even though he a womanizing douche in real life). He didnt get fame for his blues playing AT ALL. Its like if Chris Martin started rapping during Coldplay shows and people gave him credit for being an amazing rapper because he raps to sold out stadiums. People go to shows for his hits, not guitar solos.
@scottelliottmusic Yes, that's why they are hits, my point is he isnt a manufactured pop artist like literally everyone else, and whether you like breathy acoustic ballads is your concern not a fact, some people do like them. Either way it's a massive bonus to me that he has respect for real blues music, and they clearly have respect for him. If you don't like him, well, B.B King and Eric Clapton both like him enough to play with him onstage, thats good enough for me. . .
@seanryanhamilton I dont know....Maybe cuz Clapton has been just as lame as John since about 1973. John is hugely successful. Any festival would want his draw. He's a very talented musician with some hit songs and who appeals to the under 30 crowd....plus he won't outshine Clapton (more importantly). Clapton wouldn't want to be shown up at his own concert again...he still hasn't recovered from Hendrix doing that in the 60's. So a younger, lamer, less accomplished version of him self is perfect
@scottelliottmusic haha Jeff Beck did it BAAAAAAAD at the 07' crossroads festival and Clapton had to fallow........You really can't fallow a walking living legend of a guitarist. I mean Clapton's playings cute and all but Jeff is a MONSTER TO THIS DAY!
@seanryanhamilton I dont know, Maybe cuz Clapton has been just as lame as John since about 1973. John is hugely successful. Any festival would want his draw. He's a very talented musician with some hit songs and who appeals to the under 30 crowd, plus he won't outshine Clapton (more importantly). Clapton wouldn't want to be shown up at his own concert again, he still hasn't recovered from Hendrix doing that in the 60's. So a younger, lamer, less accomplished version of him self is perfect
@TheEndAllBeAll I'll admit, he grew up a bit with that, but it really not much different from what he always does....he just plays more guitar solos. Its some of the lamest blues-y rock I've heard. Its like the smooth jazz of blues.....basically very simplified smooth jazz. Hes not bad, in fact hes a very solid musician, but so is Kenny-G. I find them both equally talented and boring.
@scottelliottmusic I got a question, I understand and actually like hearing feedback about guitarist. What is it about the solo's other than it remains fairly constant. I agree predictable but not really lame. Now What do you think about Joe Bonnamassa. Most love him, I passed out front row of his concert......LITERALLY....I am a guitarist of MY WHOLE LIFE and from a Jazz family background. It was the same thing, after the same thing..It ruined him in my eyes
Yet another great song to have the life sucked out of it by mister mayer. This is what happens when a person is inspired to play guitar by listening to Poison. Thanks for being dull.
@sublimenal23 nope. john mayer has been quoted saying he started playing guitar because of poison. I didn't make that up. He's on record saying that. He took a great blues song and when covered by superior talent, a great rock song and made it into a limp r&b cover. There are at least 5 bands that cover this song better in some dive bar every night.
@Wuddymaters13 what's better? It's all speculation. so he started playing because of poison but that is most definitely not one of his major influences. Does this sound like poison at all?? It certainly doesn't sound r&b, that's for sure. And even if it did r&b stands for rhythm and blues and this is a blues song.... You don't have to enjoy it though. That's cool.
@sublimenal23 i'm not trying to suggest john mayer has zero ability. he does have some moments. he's reminiscent of many of the berklee musicians. they have a wealth of talent but never seem inspired. As far as better versions. Robert Johnson's original, Cream's version and Skynyrd does a great version . Phish covers it pretty well although I'm not really a fan of theirs.
@Wuddymaters13 yeah i love robert johnson's original but it's not even the same song. I know it is the same song, but you know what i mean. You can't say any of those listed are "better" because like i said it's all speculation. John mayer dropped out of berklee i think anyways. Man you have to open your ears. No, I can tell they are open. Instead you have to be less stubborn and trying to feel cool by saying you think someone great isn't. That doesn't make you cool. Cause I know you know....
@Wuddymaters13 Yeah....John has no fire. its all very technical, calm and boring. He plays guitar like the people in house-bands for talk shows. Technically, on paper, its blues. But it doesnt have any of the feeling behind it that makes blues worthwhile. Its more like simplified jazz. I mean, the guy always sounds like he's apologizing. His music never gets angry and without anger you cant have authentic blues. It doesnt always have to be up front, but it has to come out.
@scottelliottmusic i know i was bashing with what all i had said. it just seems if given ability you owe it to yourself and fans to come across as having passion. it just reminds me a lot of clapton playing things like "wonderful tonight" or "lay down sally". it's like having a ferrari and staying in first gear. i still don't know if i'd consider any of this as blues. with most guys that play blues, you can spot who they are trying to emulate.
@Wuddymaters13 He is certainly emulating some blues artists very well, and he is a good player, but hes like Kenny-G, just on guitar. No one will say that Kenny-G is not and exceptional sax player, he just makes the lamest music imaginable.Mayer is the same.Or like Celine Dion. Yes she has a great voice, smooth controlled and technically right, but give me Janis's scratchy whiskey and cigarettes moaning howls any day! Mayer has soulless perfection, which is useless to me.
@NSoncrant24 Its a good solo, but agin, its just the same smooth jazz style he always has.....just has a bit more edge because of the distortion hes playing with. Hes very skilled at the instrument but he doesnt put across much more than any other schooled player with 20 years experience. He's very safe an by the book, showing off the scales he knows more than emoting with the instrument. Check out Buddy Guy First time I Met the Blues to hear real aggressive blues playing.
@scottelliottmusic I have heard the tune, Idk I just feel we have different opinions on Johns ability and emotion. out of my mind where the light is, shows great emotion as well as gravity from where the light is but thanks for your opinions at least there not ignorant and immature like most on youtube.
@NSoncrant24 Yeah, I'm not saying hes a bad player by any means, I just dont really connect to what he does. I'm more into the gritty blues. Hes too polished for me. I dont feel the desperation in his playing so to me it doesnt have the same power as some other blues players. Guess its just a difference of opinion, like you said.
hes right...teh version on battle studies is shit. tbh one of the worst covers of a blues song ive heard. and this is coming from a huge JM fan. however his live versions are always better. i like this one
@SRVBASE I completely agree with you man...the battle studies version was a disappointment for me as well but this one here is pretty sweet...damn..now I want an ES 335..LOL..
what classifies as getting angry. Ive heard him angry many times. And that anger level you get to usually comes from reaching a point where you can't play anymore and your just ripping on one high vibrato note. I'd say Mayer is just too capable to get exhausted and sloppy therefore sounding extra clean at all times which to you just sounds like blues with no feeling. To me, its excellent technique. And once again, I have heard him angry.
RollsRoy3 7 months ago
@RollsRoy3 WHen you listen to SRV play Leave My Girl Alone.....THAT is angry blues thats perfect too...Mayer doesnt ever come anywhere near that. He seems to have based his entire career off Life Without You, which is a beautiful song, but is such because it shows SRV's versatility. He can go from gut-wrenching mean-ass murder blues to a tender ballad about another side of loss. Mayer just has one speed, and thats lame. Hes like Clapton after rehab. A pointless shadow of the blues.
scottelliottmusic 6 months ago
@scottelliottmusic Well i would agree that absolutely no one plays like Stevie Ray Vaughan.Too bad we can't continue this debate in person. And you diss on clapton after being out of rehab cause he lost so much flare, well I think we've all heard SRV live at Montreaux in 85, that performance has such a lack of flare and definitely not one of his best. My point is you like who you like, but John Mayer is sick and can own in all areas of his career.
RollsRoy3 6 months ago
@RollsRoy3 Yeah, Hes a great musician. I just dont think he offers much "new vigor" as a blues guitarist. Hes more reminiscent of Trey Anistasio of Phish than ,say, Albert King or Billy Gibbons. He has more of the technical jazzy style which is cool, but not really unique in my opinion. I hear more than a few music school guys who play exactly the same way on a regular basis. I can just tell he studied the guitar as opposed to absorbing it so its not exciting to me.
scottelliottmusic 6 months ago
And I wouldn't care except he gets all this hype as the blues guitar icon of his generation when I would say Derek Trucks, John Frusciante or Jack White are more deserving. Mayer just wrote a lot of chick ballads so he's more engrained in the mass cultural mind. In my view, hes a cheesy teeny-bopper pop star who happens to be a skilled guitar player. He got famous for acoustic ballads, not powerful guitar work. He just likes to show off in concerts. He should record a 13min guitar heavy track.
scottelliottmusic 6 months ago
@scottelliottmusic So you're saying someone who has mainstream appeal is just "hype"? I think he writes his own music, he's one of the few chick ballad writers who write them based on their own experience, by themself. He can play like a beast though! That's enough for me that a blues guitarist, albeit not pure blues, is popular in the charts today :)
MrPocketGuitar 6 months ago
@MrPocketGuitar No, his mainstream success is real...thats not hype. His guitar skills have little to do with that. His breathy acoustic ballads about being some emo heartbroken romantic are, (even though he a womanizing douche in real life). He didnt get fame for his blues playing AT ALL. Its like if Chris Martin started rapping during Coldplay shows and people gave him credit for being an amazing rapper because he raps to sold out stadiums. People go to shows for his hits, not guitar solos.
scottelliottmusic 6 months ago
@scottelliottmusic Yes, that's why they are hits, my point is he isnt a manufactured pop artist like literally everyone else, and whether you like breathy acoustic ballads is your concern not a fact, some people do like them. Either way it's a massive bonus to me that he has respect for real blues music, and they clearly have respect for him. If you don't like him, well, B.B King and Eric Clapton both like him enough to play with him onstage, thats good enough for me. . .
MrPocketGuitar 6 months ago
@scottelliottmusic then how come eric clapton handpicked john mayer to play at every single crossroads festival so far?
seanryanhamilton 5 months ago
@seanryanhamilton I dont know....Maybe cuz Clapton has been just as lame as John since about 1973. John is hugely successful. Any festival would want his draw. He's a very talented musician with some hit songs and who appeals to the under 30 crowd....plus he won't outshine Clapton (more importantly). Clapton wouldn't want to be shown up at his own concert again...he still hasn't recovered from Hendrix doing that in the 60's. So a younger, lamer, less accomplished version of him self is perfect
scottelliottmusic 5 months ago
@scottelliottmusic haha Jeff Beck did it BAAAAAAAD at the 07' crossroads festival and Clapton had to fallow........You really can't fallow a walking living legend of a guitarist. I mean Clapton's playings cute and all but Jeff is a MONSTER TO THIS DAY!
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@seanryanhamilton I dont know, Maybe cuz Clapton has been just as lame as John since about 1973. John is hugely successful. Any festival would want his draw. He's a very talented musician with some hit songs and who appeals to the under 30 crowd, plus he won't outshine Clapton (more importantly). Clapton wouldn't want to be shown up at his own concert again, he still hasn't recovered from Hendrix doing that in the 60's. So a younger, lamer, less accomplished version of him self is perfect
scottelliottmusic 5 months ago
@scottelliottmusic John Mayer Trio?
Not just a cheesy teeny bopper pop star
TheEndAllBeAll 6 months ago
@TheEndAllBeAll I'll admit, he grew up a bit with that, but it really not much different from what he always does....he just plays more guitar solos. Its some of the lamest blues-y rock I've heard. Its like the smooth jazz of blues.....basically very simplified smooth jazz. Hes not bad, in fact hes a very solid musician, but so is Kenny-G. I find them both equally talented and boring.
scottelliottmusic 5 months ago
@scottelliottmusic I got a question, I understand and actually like hearing feedback about guitarist. What is it about the solo's other than it remains fairly constant. I agree predictable but not really lame. Now What do you think about Joe Bonnamassa. Most love him, I passed out front row of his concert......LITERALLY....I am a guitarist of MY WHOLE LIFE and from a Jazz family background. It was the same thing, after the same thing..It ruined him in my eyes
willeng84 1 week ago
how can some of you guys say he has no feeling just look at him when he plays and tell me hes not feeling those blues
kasba22 7 months ago
Good but not close to the recording at Winterland in 1968
TL250Rider 8 months ago
Check out my Drum cover of this!
Great tune!
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ALKSAN 1 year ago
Yet another great song to have the life sucked out of it by mister mayer. This is what happens when a person is inspired to play guitar by listening to Poison. Thanks for being dull.
Wuddymaters13 1 year ago
@Wuddymaters13 you fuckin' kidding me?
sublimenal23 10 months ago
@sublimenal23 nope. john mayer has been quoted saying he started playing guitar because of poison. I didn't make that up. He's on record saying that. He took a great blues song and when covered by superior talent, a great rock song and made it into a limp r&b cover. There are at least 5 bands that cover this song better in some dive bar every night.
Wuddymaters13 10 months ago
@Wuddymaters13 what's better? It's all speculation. so he started playing because of poison but that is most definitely not one of his major influences. Does this sound like poison at all?? It certainly doesn't sound r&b, that's for sure. And even if it did r&b stands for rhythm and blues and this is a blues song.... You don't have to enjoy it though. That's cool.
sublimenal23 10 months ago
@sublimenal23 i'm not trying to suggest john mayer has zero ability. he does have some moments. he's reminiscent of many of the berklee musicians. they have a wealth of talent but never seem inspired. As far as better versions. Robert Johnson's original, Cream's version and Skynyrd does a great version . Phish covers it pretty well although I'm not really a fan of theirs.
Wuddymaters13 10 months ago
@Wuddymaters13 yeah i love robert johnson's original but it's not even the same song. I know it is the same song, but you know what i mean. You can't say any of those listed are "better" because like i said it's all speculation. John mayer dropped out of berklee i think anyways. Man you have to open your ears. No, I can tell they are open. Instead you have to be less stubborn and trying to feel cool by saying you think someone great isn't. That doesn't make you cool. Cause I know you know....
sublimenal23 10 months ago
@Wuddymaters13 Yeah....John has no fire. its all very technical, calm and boring. He plays guitar like the people in house-bands for talk shows. Technically, on paper, its blues. But it doesnt have any of the feeling behind it that makes blues worthwhile. Its more like simplified jazz. I mean, the guy always sounds like he's apologizing. His music never gets angry and without anger you cant have authentic blues. It doesnt always have to be up front, but it has to come out.
scottelliottmusic 9 months ago
@scottelliottmusic i know i was bashing with what all i had said. it just seems if given ability you owe it to yourself and fans to come across as having passion. it just reminds me a lot of clapton playing things like "wonderful tonight" or "lay down sally". it's like having a ferrari and staying in first gear. i still don't know if i'd consider any of this as blues. with most guys that play blues, you can spot who they are trying to emulate.
Wuddymaters13 9 months ago
@Wuddymaters13 He is certainly emulating some blues artists very well, and he is a good player, but hes like Kenny-G, just on guitar. No one will say that Kenny-G is not and exceptional sax player, he just makes the lamest music imaginable.Mayer is the same.Or like Celine Dion. Yes she has a great voice, smooth controlled and technically right, but give me Janis's scratchy whiskey and cigarettes moaning howls any day! Mayer has soulless perfection, which is useless to me.
scottelliottmusic 9 months ago
@scottelliottmusic watch aint no sunshine live at red rocks solo starts around 2 15. discredits everything you typed
NSoncrant24 6 months ago
@NSoncrant24 Its a good solo, but agin, its just the same smooth jazz style he always has.....just has a bit more edge because of the distortion hes playing with. Hes very skilled at the instrument but he doesnt put across much more than any other schooled player with 20 years experience. He's very safe an by the book, showing off the scales he knows more than emoting with the instrument. Check out Buddy Guy First time I Met the Blues to hear real aggressive blues playing.
scottelliottmusic 6 months ago
@scottelliottmusic I have heard the tune, Idk I just feel we have different opinions on Johns ability and emotion. out of my mind where the light is, shows great emotion as well as gravity from where the light is but thanks for your opinions at least there not ignorant and immature like most on youtube.
NSoncrant24 6 months ago
@NSoncrant24 Yeah, I'm not saying hes a bad player by any means, I just dont really connect to what he does. I'm more into the gritty blues. Hes too polished for me. I dont feel the desperation in his playing so to me it doesnt have the same power as some other blues players. Guess its just a difference of opinion, like you said.
scottelliottmusic 6 months ago
vet nummer
ArjanLoeve 1 year ago
i want to know where he gets his shirts.
you must have to spend quite a bit to be tall and have shirts that dont look like youre wearing a child lengths tshirt!.
Musicman1001 1 year ago
hes one of the few people that makes a 335 look small
sunp 1 year ago 4
@sunp hes pretty tall
bondman00794 1 year ago
The tone is the legendary Gibson 335 semi hollow body guitar thru 5880 valves/tubes at the amp head....
mayito714 1 year ago
BEST CROSSROADS SOLO EVER!
seb110893 1 year ago 2
i think the Battle Studies version is pretty tight. I love the tone. When have you ever heard a tone like that in any other song?
tylerdwells 1 year ago 3
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i hate this version!!!! John you suck.
a64tbird 1 year ago
sexy!
queenoftheprom 1 year ago
He might be the next Clapton. Just look at his stage presence too... god. That'd be cool.
hellodoug315 2 years ago
not a big fan of the battle studies version sorry john
cursedreject 2 years ago 3
OMG...what...not a fan of this version. WTH
yodie123 2 years ago
hes right...teh version on battle studies is shit. tbh one of the worst covers of a blues song ive heard. and this is coming from a huge JM fan. however his live versions are always better. i like this one
SRVBASE 2 years ago
@SRVBASE I completely agree with you man...the battle studies version was a disappointment for me as well but this one here is pretty sweet...damn..now I want an ES 335..LOL..
leonardod 2 years ago
@SRVBASE thought so at first too, but after listening to it some times i understood mayers idea!
LuXguitaR 1 year ago
f u c k :D
GoodGawd 2 years ago 3
This is pretty badass, IMO. Mayer has the right idea with this whole blues guitar god thing.
alexkane05 3 years ago 16
true!!
Hengelothijs 2 years ago
@alexkane05 Yeah right.
lllULTIMATEMASTERlll 9 months ago
hes really cute there...
stepdancer13 3 years ago 2
Rippin'
J214 3 years ago 7