Samsung NC20 unboxing and first impressions

[mirako347]

I just noticed that he looks thinner than the latest videos. Sorry no insults but it reminds me how much times has changed. Now it's more on tablets than netbooks. I miss netbooks.....sigh...

[bitterlemon2808]

1:30 the windows key is in the right ?! :-(

[CalvinGoldschmidt]

Samsung products are generally good. However, this particular one uses a via nano processor which is not so good. Via is generations behind it's competitors. Don't expect this single core processor (that's all via has at the moment) to perform nearly as good as a core or a phenom. In fact, not even a celeron or sempron. It does not consume any less power as via advertise. A core 2 solo is nearly 50% more energy efficient at the same core speed and 90+% faster and 30% cheaper.

[k3456789]

this usb data cable transmits data between two usb computers very useful and easy to use

[KTlogo]

Hahahahaa the guy is hiperactive...hahaha

[warrider123]

idk why but the camera is making me lean sideways.....

[sjayzzang]

what's the point of having a driver CD when there's no optical drive?

[Ilegnam]

Ooh, how do you order from Korea?

[SirVantesAFC2PUA]

a lot of austrains speak german as well right?

[minipcpro]

no they speak chinese ;)

[Sabei0990]

No German.

[minipcpro]

are you sure? ;)

[Matt18Ra]

He's in love with that pc!!

[farestabs]

lol looks like hes gonna explode his eyeballs out of excitement

[9tee]

informative... makes me want to find his review of the performance/functions of the thing. I love the way he dismissed the rubber-cover they give you for the laptop. His English is fine... the accent makes it a little more interesting... I think so. "Vas ist los mon ami?"

[whatahw]

Great vid. Thanks for this!

[adamwol]

did this guy learn english from bruno?

[minipcpro]

Bruno is Austrian sweetheart. I am german and straight but maybe you wanted it the other way around. Sorry to disappoint you :)

[adamwol]

Touche! Great response, fairplay mate!

[minipcpro]

thanks mate. Glad we both have some humor! :)

[RiiDDiiM]

ha, he does sound like Bruno.

[teo829]

Windows Vistas sucks, too many administration queries from the OS. "Are you sure you want to open this prograblem? Are you sure you want to download this software? blah blah blah fuck Vistas

[innie721]

..just turn that security feature off..

[SandyHoldings]

I wanna know it's compatible with Ubuntu 9.04 or not @@...

[minipcpro]

yes it is

[rikhurley]

is the n140 ubuntu compatible?

[minipcpro]

of course

[ghostje1345]

is there a samsung nc20 whit vista??

[FruitLoops75]

no only xp

[HammondB200]

yay, XP! FUCK VISTA!

[YumeWire]

Forget vista get the new WIndows 7!

[UnrealGlider]

Its easy to install Vista :)

[ghostje1345]

what os??

[Ewaves1]

great review

[SophosVII]

what is exactly weird about that USB cable huh >.> the fast that is say 2.0? o.O you are supposed to know what it is!! 2.0 has been out for lots and lots of years

[minipcpro]

is USB 2.0 out already?? really? :)

Just kidding, of course i know about this but this is just the first system that sports such a cable, that's why it was weird :)

[vlahka]

Nice system. Could you tell me how the NC20 handles 720p/h254 video files? Thanks.

[minipcpro]

it works like charme

[svlc2601]

welcher is besser zum zocken,der nc20 oder der nc10?

[minipcpro]

beides sind keine Systeme zum zocken! Aber der NC20 ist bei aktuelleren Grafikbenchmarks einfach schneller

[ShadowShinobi22]

arent the graphics going to be better on this netbook? (the graphics card?)

[acaftermath]

I have this and i love it.

[PaulEkert]

Thanks. Very helpfull.

[carlv8415]

Is the white version like proper gloss white or is it like a silver white.

[dramosuk]

To Isncee ,

Doesn't matter if its Netbook or Laptop. I mean you are saying people will be mislead. Hmm when i buy something like this, i look at the product and make my own conclusions. Minipcpro has given his opinon and its not written in stone. No one forces you to buy this product. I am looking into buying this or the NC10. I want something small and portable, but i also want something with a good res so i dont have to squint my eyes everytime. So on this, i think i will go with the NC20.

[Gjkeane]

does it run faster than the nc10? because i noticed it has a 1.3 ghz processor compared to the old .6

[minipcpro]

yes, the cpu is faster and it overclocks itself up do 1.6

[Gjkeane]

Cool thanks for your feedback dude!

[waaaghflorian]

I was just wondering the noise level of this kind of netbooks.

Is it silent like a Mac? with not a single noise.

Or is it as loud as an old cheap laptop?

Because if it's quiet, it would be a perfect buy!!

[tipoomaster]

It realy is unfortunate that AMD hasn't entered this processor market yet, its really turning out to be a big cash cow. That said, I'm glad Intel is at least getting some competition from Via's Nano.

[FrostGibbon]

wtf ever happened to laptops its like a netbook but stronger

[WhyMeNeedName]

good and honest review :)

[gsharpshooter80]

so i have a question can this netbook run cod4 or any other games like that or still not yet

[minipcpro]

no it can't.

[gsharpshooter80]

dang im still waiting for nvidia to get crackin on those ion's they promised so that graphics are 5x faster and netbooks will still be small and will run full HD

[JamieLD95]

Just check out the ASUS N10 ;)

[gsharpshooter80]

i kno i kno but i love the sammy lol

[qwertymac93]

lol, someone likes redbull i BIT too much!

[volure1]

me i love netbook

[medionForce]

energetic? overenergetic xD

[techkid741]

dam!!! you seem energetic take it easy man

[Paltfabriken]

whats your problem, little boy take it easy.....

thats low, what do your comment have with samsung NC20 comp?

[gsharpshooter80]

ayyyyy lets take it easy there CHAMP

[ugforthewin]

Tomorrow I shall hopefully receive the Samsung NC20 in white - I'd just like to thank you for this video as it was very helpful in choosing a notebook! Cheers!

[jirikrepl]

Hi how looks power adapter? Can I use it in Europe, in Czech? You've got it from Korea? I found only place where I can bough it from England, they have different sockets aren't they?

[OutOTW]

I have a desktop and i'm thinking in getting a small laptop(just for office,web,some small work in photoshoo, dreamewaver and flash) without paying to much for it. The nc20 seems perfect, am i right?

Also i need to know if the photoshop cs2 or cs3 runs ok, can you tell me?

[minipcpro]

PS will definitely work but don't expect too much performance, when you are running some heavy PS filters on this platform

[zydol87]

Right Clicking - The mouse button is a two way rocker switch, press the left hand side for left click and right hand side for right click.

[huntermccartyney]

But can it run windows 95?

[TheBlitz1]

lol wtf

[liuton2005]

My mom got one of these. It's really the best.

It's so light but yet so performant for that size.

[lovenotwar666]

how to u rightclick?

or cant you?

[WHEATTHlNS]

I love how they don't even take the time to pretend that it wasn't opened already despite the "unboxing" in the title. Good show, and sexy laptop.

[minipcpro]

that was a good one! ;)

[fbpalumbo]

Maybe i'will wait the new Nc20.

[klink1972]

i havent seen if the vx800 can support 720i or 1080p playback via stream

[klink1972]

so sascha is the vx800 chipset comparable to an intel GMA X4500HD

[hmoob7]

So it is a little too big, a little too heavy?

From what I can see, the only things I dislike is the glossy screen.

I would really like to know if it feels more like a 13 inch notebook or a 10 inch netbook, and if it's heavy: 4-5 lbs?

[minipcpro]

compared to my Dell Inspiron 700m (also a 12.1) it is really light. I think it's only 200gramm heavier then the NC10

[hmoob7]

So you prefer this over the NC10? I haven't used a 12 inch laptop before so I don't know, but I trust your assessment.

[minipcpro]

At the moment i have to say, NO!

I would love to have the Nano im any 11.3 or 10.2 system.

As a 2nd netbook for desktop usage.. YES! I love how it feels and i love the performance

[hmoob7]

Good. Because I bought a white NC10 about a week before the release of the NC20, so I had some second thoughts.

I'm still happy with my purchase.

[klink1972]

have you streamed any video like from hulu- if not send the machine to us and we can finish your benchmarks

[minipcpro]

sorry for the late reply. I seriously need to do another review again, without the korean windows and with my own installation and drivers

[klink1972]

ok i did

so the nano processor is a pretty close to the atom270 in the nc10? and which chipset was better at video encoding?

[klink1972]

man you need to translate that for us

our grandfathers came from germany during the war :)

[minipcpro]

just use the google translator. The benchmark results are international :)

[hanzo0313]

Thanks for the detail tests, Sasha!

I've noticed that:

- Web browsing, wifi ON, 50% Brightness : 5H39

How well is 5:39 normal usage compared to other 10" netbooks?

[klink1972]

ok found it..but its a battery benchmark? what about the processor and video?

also

would you rather have a sony vaio sz model or this netbook?

[minipcpro]

it's a 3 page benchmark test, just click on the link at the bottom of each page to go to the next one and you will have it all ;)

[klink1972]

just see your unboxing and german benchmarks but no video- maybe im lost

[klink1972]

where is your review ? we have been waiting for you :)

[minipcpro]

check the link in the description. It's online :)

[hanzo0313]

Believe me, in 2009 more and more 12" Netbooks will come out and replace current mainstream 10" netbooks. Dell, Asus, Samsung, and now Lenovo joins the 12" netbook competition. The whole market trend migrates from the first 7" EEEPC to 8.9", 10.1", 12" for just 9 months! Maybe the 10" limitation is made by the chip vendor Intel but, not all companies are their puppy dogs.

[minipcpro]

i can only sign that.

[baboonman]

Thanks for all your work on this, but how come no review yet?

[minipcpro]

it's all ready but i got bulldozed all over by the MWC news stream from Barcelona. It will be online soon

[DavidFUBB]

which kind of accent is that? i'm asking, not being ironic

[minipcpro]

well you are not the only one who asked this in this discussion ;) I am german

[klink1972]

i really want to see this machine running hulu

[baboonman]

agreed

[yeszir9]

Thank you very much !

Will you post the full review anytime soon ?

[hanzo0313]

Booting from 3:39 to 4:20, about 40 seconds for booting to XP desktop. Is this good or bad if compared to NC10 or other netbooks?

[minipcpro]

pretty much the same time as on the nc10. keep in mind that these devices are sporting different HDDs. While the NC10 comes with Hitachi or Fujitsu drives, the NC20 sports a Samsung HDD, which i would definately prefer.

[hanzo0313]

Thanks so much!

[jungleflower]

ok thanks :D

Where will you post the battery results? I am interested in knowing. I'm very much into this netbook!

[minipcpro]

i will leave a comment in the video and in the description.. expect something between 3 and 6 hours.. depending on what you are doing with it.

[jungleflower]

Hello. Great review. I had a question, is the power cable black or white? I want to buy a white Samsung NC20 or NC10, and I was wondering if it came with a white power cord. Thanks.

[minipcpro]

thanks for the feedback. It comes with a black power cord

[Isncee]

not a netbook!  this is a laptop! why are they associating this with the netbook nc10? this is a completely different product.

[minipcpro]

what is the definition of a netbook anyways? i can tell you that the nc20 sports a netbook hardware platform and of course i have to compare it to the NC10. If this is a laptop, do you want me to compare it to a $3000 17" screen laptop or what? I think the price and the hardware platform makes it a netbook and not a laptop

[Isncee]

I don't judge whether something is a netbook by price. I judge by size. By size, this is not a netbook. This beast is a small laptop.

[minipcpro]

so what are your limits for a netbook?

Would a 10.2 inch system with a core2duo cpu be a netbook?

[Isncee]

It would depend on the size, weight, and, yes, the price of the overall system. Price does matter, but cheapness alone does not a netbook make. Netbooks are mobile computers that are cheap and small. The NC20 is not small -- and not very cheap, either.

[minipcpro]

ok, so it's not only the size but also the price. Still waiting for your definition of a netbook though ;) For me, it's a matter of the hardware platform. This NC20 is using netbook hardware and i think we should just get rid of these limitations the marketing offices try to teach us. So what is your price and size limit for a netbook?

[Isncee]

why do i owe you a definition of a netbook? I say the nc20 isn't a netbook, you say it is. Maybe I'm waiting for your definition ;)

Besides, it's false that the NC20 is, as you say, using netbook hardware. It's using some -- like the atom. Other hardware -- like the 12" screen and badonkadonk chassis -- are not netbook hardware, they're laptop hardware.

If you think it's only the cpu that makes a netbook, then I guess I could stuff an atom into my old Apple II and have a giant netbook, eh?

[minipcpro]

interesting. I am trying to ask you a question for about 5 million times and you just can't answer it :) so for you it's a matter of size and due to this a 12.1 inch Display is not netbook hardware. Ok i got that.. kinda blurry definition but ok.. call it Netbook, call it Notebook, call it whatever.. i just don't care :) It's a cool system.

By the way a netbook is 9 years old platform and was manufactured by Psion. Your call! :p

[Isncee]

i can't answer your question because you're asking for a more precise definition than I've bothered to formulate. Why would I come up with a precise size and weight for what counts as a netbook? You think a netbook is about hardware -- do you have a precise definition of what hardware does and doesn't count as a netbook?

I know about Psion's older use of the term.

The NC20 might be a cool system, but someone looking for a cool netbook might feel misled if they bought it. I would.

[minipcpro]

of course i have a prevcise definition of netbook hardware platforms ;) and the nc20 is using netbook hardware or do you wan't me to compare the VIA Nano to a quadcore? How can you be misled with the NC20? I can tell you for sure, that they won't sell it with confusing specs. If you can read specs, you will know what you get ;)

[Isncee]

It's misleading because most people are like me: they expect that netbook=small and lightweight. The NC10 is a netbook, and there are people like you running around calling the NC20 a netbook; so customer who associate netbook with 'small and lightweight' will be misled.

ps What is the precise definition you use?

[minipcpro]

as i said. everyone can read the specs and try it out and of course you can watch my videos and read my articles and you will know what it's all about.

For me, real netbooks are starting at a screensize of 7" and they are sporting Intel Atom (Diamondville and Silverthorne) VIA C7-M and Nano. ARM will enter this market also. It has to be inexpensive, like sub $600! thats all

[Isncee]

That's all? So my EeePC 4G is not a netbook? It has a celeron. Your definition is messed up.

Of course someone picking it up in the store will not be misled by the size. A consumer who has the common understanding of netbooks, and who perhaps has even seen an NC10, will be misled unless she takes care to check and make sure the NC20 didn't gain several inches and a pound on its predecessor. Surprise: it has.

[minipcpro]

the Celeron M devices (which are only used by ASUS for the Eee PC) are just not getting produced anymore for the netbook market. they are only selling what is left on stock. I have to look what is going on the market right now and what will be in the future, otherwise i will bring Psion into the game again :p . btw. i have 2 Celeron-M Eee PCs, too as you can tell, when you watch my videos. ;)

[baboonman]

Are you still planning on posting a review? Or did samsung ask you not to?

[minipcpro]

my benchmarks are all done, waiting for the battery results now. Should be online tonight

[baboonman]

Thanks!

[punjabidhol]

So is there really any point purchasing this netbook over the NC10??are there any major improvements or differences?? i thought the nc20 has the ability to accept a mobile phone sim card for 3g internet access??

[minipcpro]

like you can see in the video, they already have a kinda dummy slot for future 3G simcards. I am sure we will see a 3G version of it pretty soon

[patrickmanning94]

ive just bought the nc10, FUCK

[asitmc]

I am actually happy that I ddin't wait for this nc20. It's a little on the hefty side to carry aronud. It's lighter and smaller than traditional 14.1 and 15.4 laptops, but it's still doesn't confer the portability of 10 inch netbooks.

I would love to see this in person

[rujona]

what accent is that?

[HUSTLA21392]

accent ? ...he's from germany :D

[edgar1013]

great review bud, i love samsung products.

[thangpham]

WTF too big for a netbook

[svennipp]

can we get this guy to play Dwight on The Offfice? more the voice than looks.

[minipcpro]

if they can pay me... call me in :p

[TYMMproductions]

lol

[meherdad]

AHAHAHAH I thought of that the minute the Video started!!!!

Moreso when he started speaking!

"Welcome to Schrute Farms"

@minipc: buddy please search for "Dwight Schrute", Im sure ud be surprised.

[OhSheezy]

lol @ the accent

[jkennemer]

What's wrong with it?

[blksoul94]

his voice is hilarious

[chewbeeb]

I love your first looks/ unboxing/ review videos. Your level of enthusiasm in these videos are unmatched!!! Very interesting to watch. Keep making those videos.

[klink1972]

hey i like all your reviews- what was the price? and have you played any 720p or 1080 p video like from hulu? the ukrainian website says it plays them with less than 80 percent cpu usage- but i am waiting for your review on this subject

thanks

[minipcpro]

720p or 1080p is not an issue at all but i am also aware of these ukranian websites cause the menlow platform from Intel also had problems with flash hd. Gimme some 24 more hours. I am finishing my benchmarks now, running the battery test in the background (expect some 15% less battery life compared to the NC10. Both are sporting the same battery) and getting ready to finalize the review

[minipcpro]

forgot the price...

400 british pound in the UK

499 Euro in Germany... which is kinda weird cause the Euro and the Pound are almost the same. It has to be below $600 to be competitive imho

[spaznadz]

The intro and accent remind me of Sprockets.

[minipcpro]

well, i am german, even though i didn't plan to do any mike meyers impersonation ;)

[Jayayess1190]

Looks better than the Dell Mini 12.

[jessi330]

1280 x 800 is an upgrade, but the whole idea of a netbook was basic, cheap and light.

I was waiting to see what they would come out with. I think I am going with the NC10, despite the slower processor. It's lighter and easier on my budget.

[ugforthewin]

Quality.

[BurningIke]

Thank you for posting this excellent unboxing video. It was a very clear and decently thorough look at this new machine in a short amount of time. I'm looking forward to reading the full review!

[tony26490]

nice netbook

[bucky012]

I hope to win this netbook, it's amazing