@FilitosCDM : That simply cant happen right now considering the state of human kind, the vast amount of people and different cultures in this world. We need a re education first, and equalizing money, to remove moneys power over life and place life back on nr 1. It is a first step, the fastest one I see right now considering our current state.
@FilitosCDM : The Equal money system is the effective workable solution with our current reality. The zeitgeist movement is not. I investigated it, participated on the forum and saw the videos. I stand for an equal money system.
@SpamAnn Anyway The equal money sistem will fail , as capitalism , socialism , comunism , and all that ism. Why ? Because is based in money , and the principle of infinite grow , in a finite world.
@FilitosCDM : not true. You can go and rea don the website and forum. Lots of these questions have been answered. It is nothing like communism or capitalism or the same money as we have now with profit and deflation and shit.
The Earth is the piece of pie and we all deserve an equal piece. No more buying ten islands cause you got billions of dollars. This land is for all of us and we need to share it. Every person shall eat and get land and build a house. In return we can all do something for the environment. I don't have all the answers. This is just the blue print to real freedom.
@RamzGT : genocide and xenophobia are forms of abuse and selfish and also not very smart. The solution for abuse to stop is for humanity to change. Even if we get wiped out lets say by nature disasters, then those who are left will breed on and things will re-emerge as it did now. As long as we are not fully self directional in equality, things wont be better.
@SpamAnn I wish, I wish, I wish I could agree. I don't want death! However I'm not optimistic that we will truly be able to heal unconsciously without some overriding technological force.
@ITHEREONETHATHASNT : tax collectors only need work in a system that requires tax. Its like in a system where they torture people to confess, you would say: hey , inquisitors need work so...
That some jobs are created for that system to operate, does nto justify the existence and continuation of that system.
The only truly free society would be one in which every person had 100% control over his own property and no one had the right to coerce anyone else. The opposite is socialism where you own 100% of nothing and can be coerced 100%. Forget limited government because it's just limited socialism. Limited socialism is a contradiction in terms. Acorns become oak trees. Lion cubs become ferocious lions. Limited governments ALWAYS becomes tyrannical. -dharmashooter
Ann, have you checked out the Zeitgeist Movement? They advocate ending the monetary system in favor of a free distribution system sustained by, simply put, sustainable technologies. If resources are produced in overwhelming abundance through automation and cyberization, nothing would have monetary value.
@Tanoro : yes I have been a member of the zeitgeist forum for quite a while and also on the belgium one. Ending the monetary system cant work right now, we need a transition face, and this is equal money system. We need to look at more then technology and "fixing" the world on the outside. We need as much attention to our inside as well.
@Tanoro I too feel the transition into a resource/service based economy would be the most logical. There's no doubt technology is being supressed, Tesla infinite energy for example. Money cannot advance humans or quality of life, only technology, cybernisation, intelligent use of resources, a REAL education system and spiritual awakening can do that. Food,infinite energy,water and shelter is all we need for a social transition. Unfortunately so many humans fear change.
Good for you! Yes indeed, first recognition of the problem is critical. People decide what fair exchange is. Governments have given all the wealth of the people to the central banks who tell us all countries are broke and we are slaves paying taxes on everything. We don't have to play this game or agree to this. We can decide on a better system and what better group than the youth of the world to insist on new fair exchanges and balanced sharing of wealth
One of the main reasons people want to be wealthy is to make other people feel poor, everyone showing off their new car or new house or latest gizmo, we're emotional 2 yr olds and we don't like the idea of sharing, I buy a Ferrari so Mick buys a Ferrari, now I don't like my Ferrari anymore because Mick's got one, so I've got to go get me a McLaren....that's consumerism in a nutshell.
@TheNewMusicNetwork : we can never have peace as long as the current money system is in place. Because it NEEDS abuse, it needs slave workers, it needs have and have nots. Without it it cannot function. Ill explain in an upcomming video.
I've checked the forum and it's nonesense.If everyone has the same amount of money and ENOUGH for a life time no one will have to work and that means no production and services.If I'm mistaken with this please have your say.
@0RobinHood1 : your mistaken;) this equal money system has been tested in small scaled communities and it was proven very effective. People actually like to contribute and do something. research Basic Income Grant (BIG)
@SpamAnn Ok,I'll learn that out in a moment.But you should think at this alternative.What if we could eliminate money for good?I mean no money,no property,no buyers,no producers.A society where what is "mine",is "yours" too.
Dump ten wagon loads of money down a mine shaft,wait and see how much coal will come back up the shaft?Put a Sack full of money on the drivers seat of a train or bus,wait and see if the bus will drive away.
If you have spare money, then please tell us how much of it you personally have given to the starving people you seem to be concerned over?
I totally disrepect the young people who make videos to complain about the difference between "haves" and "have nots" while at the same time having enough wealth to own a computer, a video camera, and highspeed internet.
I have been a student and have earned almost nothing, in my past I donated money but realised this is not helping. donating money SUSTAINS the problem, this is also what the social workers here say now. A lot of the money is given to the weapons actually. You think your helping but your paying for WAR. Sad but true, little money ends up to help the people. And its not real help because the system keeps existing, without adressing the real core issue, you can send money all you want releaving
your guilt feeling, but you are nto stopping it or making it better at all. We dont complain to complain, we talk about this for people to change themselves and then start changing the system. if the system doesnt change then nothing is going to change because these things will be re-created over and over again. Thats why the people who have all this have to speak up and USE the system to change the system. Giong away from it wont change it because there are those who love it.
this will never change because people want what they can't have. and when they have it they don't want it anymore.
try to argue these points:
1- if everyone started out with "equal money" what would happen when one of them gets addicted to drugs (as i see happen every day here in the people's republic of eugene). are you telling me that addicts ARENT going to spend ALL the money they have on drugs. and then that they will not steal/cheat to get additional money. illogical
these questions are answered on the forum. The addiction would be dealt with, the person would get assistance and be educated about it. Alcohol for example wont be allowed anyway. Less people will become addict also. If a person keeps fucking up, money flow will be stopped to them as a concequence or get community service. This is needed where people are still abusers. So this will motivate them to stop the bullshit they have allowed.
so being not-ignorant means you have to obey towards how the world works? clearly the world isnt working. We will have to establish another way, and considering the state of human kind.
"not-ignorant" is not a word. good luck convincing the meth heads down the street of your other "way", i'm sure they will happy to take the free money
we have to change ourslves in self direction and self honesty by stopping our programmed mind from controlling us. meditation will not manifest a solution, you have to do it.
Yes - it must be done by ourselves, but where does the will power, determination and change of heart come from. How do you let go of being getting controlled by the programmed mind ? Only through techniques that promote self-analysis and contemplation.
It comes from yourself, self direction in self honesty. If you stop the programmed mind to controle you, then you direct yourself and you become your willpower.
No science has that capacity - Because we are the source of the 'problem', it is only from and within Human Nature, that we can Change. It is the Origin of 'who we are' that has to Change for the World to Change.
we have not met one yoga master yet in the hereafter that transcended sufficiently to stand as life -- meditation is a design of the mind which was implanted to distract the followers from reality -- in this -- dishonesty is cultivated slowly but surely till the being lose all right to life
yoga is not a religion - its not a set of morals or rules - its getting in touch with yourself to understand reality not distract from it. hmm..pretty judgemental i must say ..even without trying.
"oga is not a religion - its not a set of morals or rules - its getting in touch with yourself to understand reality not distract from it."
Wow. You seem to know a lot about yoga. Can you tell us what you "understand" about this reality, because I'm dying to know why the set-up of existence is to feed upon itself.
I glance at the videos Darryl, Spam etc..have posted and I feel that pretty much everything you folks talk about - the issues, the injustice, environment, fake religions, mass hypnosis, monetary systems, etc...finds a perfect solution in Yoga. I guess yoga works on the the "root cause" and these issues are the symptoms.
All forms of Yoga have a single objective - to help us understand who we are deep inside. We often identify with our thoughts, our conditioning, our education, our society. It becomes hard to separate ourselves from these relative identities (that keep changing) - but *that* is not us. There are many books you can read - "I am That" , "Yoga Sutras", "Autobiography of a Yogi", "The Life Divine", etc.. or even watch videos on Vedanta, Patanjali, etc..
@Darryl - the logical brain has its limits. I can try explaining "existence" to you through words. But *real* understanding comes through experience. Pretty much anything you hear from others your mind will judge, critically analyze and discriminate because that is the nature of the mind. Like they say "seeing is believing".
"acid," it seems to me that Yoga and meditation didn't do squat for the living conditions of millions and millions of Indians, or put food in their mouths OR give them shelter or an education. The ancient Aryan-Vedic-Brahminist culture with all the yogic techniques in the world could not bring equality to the varnas, castes and Dalits. Do you think lecturing on the value of yoga does any more for them? Give attention to what is HERE, not some exalted imaginary place in your mind. That's useless
When you say education - do you mean western concepts, because Yoga is clearly the highest education one can attain. The castes were designed to structure a 5000 yr old society and they evolved peacefully during Buddha, Shankara etc.. until the British came. They even wrote Indian history to make them look inferior. Yoga is not designed to feed people. But advanced techniques do that too ;-) Search "Solar Gazing" on You Tube.
Sankara claimed that no creed or caste was real for him, but that did not stop others from practicing the tradition of varna division, did it? And he did as much yoga and meditation as anyone! It was as if he didn't live at all. Sankara, Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Ramana Marishi.WTF have they done to sort out this world beside offering a back door to hide in your mind while the world goes to hell? This is not a debate you can win, "acid." Because yoga no effect on suffering for all.
India (followed by China) used to be the richest, most self-sufficient country on the planet until the Muslims and then the British invaded. Although, you may want to do some reading on how and why it became the "3rd world" :-).
History is a hobby of mine. But you haven't answered my question. I'll ask again: how has yoga sorted out this world when it couldn't even sort out India? And another thing - I post under my real name, because I want everyone who reads my words to know that I stand by them and don't need to hide behind a fake one so I can post whatever garbage that pops in my head. Not saying that YOU do that, btw. But really, your "truth-claim' that yoga can show you who you are "deep inside." Geez.
Good Q. The fact is not even 1% of people in India practice Yoga today. 20% are Muslims and the rest have been fragmented through the British divide-and-rule and misinformation. Elite institutions only teach western sciences. We aren't told that unlike in the west, India never had a science-religion feud. Instead they teach us "moral science" and we know how well that works. Our history, our education and law is all copied from the Brits. Its clearly our fault - but all that must change.
Even Vivekananda said it was useless to blame the British for all of India's problems, when centuries of abuse, exploitation and differences of caste and creed by the peoples of India itself were the cause of their great, unyielding suffering. Does yoga take responsibility for sorting out the UNBELIEVABLE poverty millions of Indians face each and every day. How DARE you insult their reality and my intelligence, speaking from a privileged position chewing on about morality. Pfffffft.
Yoga and Dharma used to be taught in schools. Respect for human beings and animals alike used to be the norm. Taxila, Nalanda were the oldest most flourishing universities in the world. If everyone were Vivekananda, Darryl the world would be a heavenly place. There wouldn't be nuclear weapons, global hunger, marxism or croony capitalism.
Vivekananda did what he could, but to wish for everyone to be like him is ineffective. As is yoga and meditation. Why doesn't god, or kali, or vashduveda, shiva, shakti, allah, yahweh DO anything to sort this world out? Because they can't. So we have to, because if the gods 'could' do it, by their own negligence or incompetence, the job has fallen to us. You cannot be effective while chanting your mantra on you yoga mat. this job calls for something much more SUBSTANTIAL.
You have it completely wrong my friend. Hinduism doesn't have a concept of god(s) or any kind loving saviors like in Christianity. Shiva-Shakti are consciousness-manifested energy. It is not even theistic...just like in Buddhism. We believe in Karma - a simple chain law of cause and effect.
Its our consciousness that drives our experience in the world. To begin with we have free will - but with our actions (karma) our free will gets more and more limited with the passage of time. There is no God sitting over us - its just a field of consciousness where everything (nature-space-time-matter) are born and everything dissolves. Yoga is the science, the knowledge to elevate our consciousness beyond greed, ego and hate.
Yes - the source of universal consciousness is named "Brahman". Nothing is good/bad, evil/godly, black/white. In Hinduism we call it "Leela" the big act. At the end of the day we are all playing a part in a big game which itself is not real. Suffering is itself an illusion.
acid, you cannot verify that the games you are presenting (that universal consciousness exists and that suffering is not real") cannot be verified, and thus is only something Hindu religious tradition has claimed... but you cannot know that as FACT. Let's dispense with make-believe and deal with what is here, okay?
you asked a philosophical question - i stated what i know. That in no way contradicts the fundamental capacity of a very practical science like yoga to evolve human consciousness.
I'll give more credence to philosophy one it provides a way that feeds the billions that go without food. Until then, mental acrobats that don't mean doodley-squat. Useless.
Alright - I hope you come up with a more creative intellectual solution to global problems. So far capitalism, communism, oligarchy, democracy, dictatorship, feudalism ...have failed and failed pretty miserably.
Obviously if there was a God watching over us there wouldn't be suffering. Who is claiming there is a God ? Who is claiming its not our fault ? Who says we are not responsible for our actions ?
"who's claiming there's a God?" You're claiming that Yoga can do all this wonderful stuff, but I'm saying it;s useless if it doesnt change the world, which it obviously cannot, sir.
Yoga helps you control metabolism and regulates hormones (chakras) that in-turn drive our emotions and thoughts. Yoga helps us maintain inner peace. Mantras are sound waves or vibrations that promote "positive" energy in the body. Nothing religious or non-scientific about that. I mean you have no clue now do you ?
@Desteni you seem to care about animals. Have you researched where in the world are the most number of vegetarians, where animals are worshiped as gods and in general cared for more than any other country. Your videos about Hindu culture are very misguided and not accurate.
do a research on how polarity works - you will see that 'trying to do good' comes from fear of consequence, and the lack of understanding that man IS cause and effect - therefore consequence cannot be escaped - we are facing the consequences of what has been allowed - thus the question is:
how do we stop - without merely going to the opposite polarity?
Money and economic exchange is a man made concept, just as our society is created. In an "equal money" society, does that mean that we would all have the same sized house, cars, material goods, etc? What about food and other goods? There are varying prices and qualities for everything and that influences the price...also supply and demand. How is this addressed?
No, things would be alligned towards what is best for all. So things that abuse others wont be allowed. But that doesnt mean everyone has exactly the same. Prices will be fixed, because it wont be based on gold or debt, such as it is with our flawed system right now. go to the forum to discuss and read answers to the questions.
The solution lies in visibility, everything concerning money is hushed up. Thus when it crashes it is down to lack of visibility which only encourages slight of hand economics.
When we all know the full picture it will amaze us at the extent of wealth held by a small few, who make the rules and benefit themselves only.
The rich and powerful have always been more resourceful, creative, persistent and result oriented in their goals that is why they are rich and powerful. The current global money system will probably die sooner than later but it be a result of greed, hubris and overreach rather than any concerted effort by well meaning individuals.
Huh? So if I wanted to give you a gold krugerrand you wouldn't want it?...because it doesn't work. Sorry pukey gold is shear power....people do things for me.
the reason why people wait for disaster to happen is because everyone is in denial...
the world is too big and we can't see the big picture unless it has an impact on our own lives. Its like... hey! nothings wrong over here... so why should I worry?
All forms of money corrupt. To eliminate poverty, one must convince those having the greatest amounts of money ( Gates, Buffet, etc.) to rid themselves of money. If there is no desire for money at the highest levels, then there will be no need to continue with its use.
One problem that will still exist will be thoswe who believe they can control the needs of a nation and keep all supplies to control the release as they choose. Thereby, they will still keep the poor at their beckon call.
that wont work, and is right now not realistic. Ofcourse it is where we want to go and being able to live and cooperate together without money would be cool. But for now we need interim solutions to stop world wide poverty and suffering because of it. And from there we move on
remove supply and demand and go to equal distribution, next to this equal distribution of money or that which you need to survive has to come a secondary system so that the primary fear of not being able to survive because of lack of money is eliminated.
Jorn, that does not remove those who enjoy controlling others. Hence, force will have to be used against those people and we would be right back in the same posuition as we are now.
Ask yourself if someone earning $100,000.00 per year is willing to come down in pay. Chanvces are the answer is no. Hence, everyone has to receive the equal amount as that person. This is not possible to have all 7 billion citizens receiving that amount.
right now elimination is not possible with the current mindset of humanity. People like you say:a re still abusers. So what we need is a "controle" for abusers, like the micro chip suggested. So all abuse is trackable.
1) money addiction (single most effective dopamine trigger!!)
[Olds J, Milner P. (1954). "Positive reinforcement produced by electrical stimulation of septal area and other regions of rat brain". J Comp Physiol Psychol 47 (6): 41927.]
2) under diagnosed, tolerated and in Western Nihilizations hugely honored antisocial personality disorder (ICD-10 / 3-6% male pop.), which destroys reciprocal altruism.
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
- Henry Ford
"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks."
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes.
Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
The current global economic melt-down was created by two parties in the U.S. economy. The socialist Clintonistas who forced Jewish bankers to give loans to people who could not afford them. The bankers not willing to hold bad loans that would eventually default then packaged and sold them to the Chinese. When the paper finally went bad with the interest increases the whole economy collapsed spreading around the world. The whole thing has nothing to do with rich or poor people.
it's not relevant who's 'fault' it is - what's relevant is that we are all here together - we all share the same physical needs - we all are affected by the current system of separation and abuse in one way or another.
we each are subject to the circumstances we are born-into - we are responsible to create equal circumstances in this world, so that every Being, no-matter where they are born, has an equal opportunity to Life.
hi this is mchezo. u responded yo my response on law of attraction off of u tube. i wanted to explain this to u. its not that some attract everything to their self and fuc every1 else its just that some carry the attitude & put the blame & cause of everything on someone else except theirself, which is a negative vibration since we r all energy. & even if i was to explain the truth to 1 that 1 will resist n defense & wont b leve there 4 that vibration of negative energy draws neg n life. peace lv
The law of attraction uses the law of balance, which is abusive in nature because it requires the "negative" to exist, thus creating abuse. The law of attraction is used by people in dishonesty, such as people that want to attract "success" because of their own self intrest while they care nothing about the starving people, or people that want to get thin because they judge themselves on their appearance and others etc....
it appears to me that you dont understand what your saying & especially dont have a clue as to what i speak. it is apparent because u keep saying the same thing without even disproven my explaination on how you are wrong about tha nature of & law attraction
Law of attraction is greed- Because you want more than what you need. Thinking yourself to all the money in the world. Not realizing that you fuck up others experiences of themselves in the process. Where some have it all. And some have nothing at all.
Your intentions are right but you are clueless as to what is going on.The money system is totally controlled by the same few families for 100`s of years. Look up Rothchilds....look up anything by eustace mullins on the new world order.
I know, and its very likely that those in REAL power are known by hardly anyone.
Now this does not mean it has to be this way forever, we can stand up for life and direct ourselves and group, so we can bring change which they wont be able to do anything about.
There is a world wide awakening going on right now and you are part of it. You can expect very stiff opposition from those who wish to preserve the status quo. Good luck and God Bless in your journey .
if we are all equal and one, i want my share of your body. you're a FINE lookin' woman. it's not fair that I don't get an opportunity to have sex with you! i am sexually deprived! I am starving here.. give me your body! i am equal to all okay?
You dont get it at all, what equality means. Go to the forum and read about it. Doing whats best for all includes not following sexual desires as pictures.
No, I do get it. I get it fully what equality means. "equal work for equal pay, mmm mmmm mmmm". you missed my point. you kneejerk about my wanting an equal bit of your body, but therein shows the folly of this equal argument. you feel that way because your body is yours, not mine. got it. understood. now, my fruits of my labor are MINE and nobody elses! its the same thing! so nobody gets a piece of what I created on my own, nobody gets my money because it is MINE.
It doesnt mean that when you work for extra, you wont be able to get extra.
What the principle of the equal money system is, is that NO ONE is excluded and has to suffer because they have no money. People who want to earn extras through work will be able to do that.
this system does not work! all it does is demerit high achievers and elevate the evil men who will rule the world. it makes less rich and more poor (equally poor) and the rich people are richer than can exist in a FREE society. it is EVIL. you don't recognize this now, but sometime in the future you may. i apologize for using your body to illustrate my point. you're obviously a person with a good heart. I will disagree with your arguments here forever, to the death, but peace be to you.
And I will repeat my words many more times. We do need a new world order, not the ones they fear in conspiracy theories, but a new world order that does what is best for ALL. Everyone needs it, ask anyone who suffers because of money. And I mean real suffering. I dont know who laura ingles is.
The only thing which is able to make a difference in this world is the purity of your expression. As long as you look to fix the world without being pure as your natural expression first, you will be maintaining that which you fight against. Nature is in allowance with whatever happens because nature doesn't know how to resit. As long as you resist your nature, you will manifest the resistance which is at the core of all of humanitie's issues. No one other than your nature can bring you the...
Nature is also a program. What exactly is it you lean with "natural expression"? Some people say their sex fantasies are their natural expression you know, or their violent tempers.
what is it that i mean with "natural expression" is the expression that your heart has always expressed within you. As long as you are partial within your expression to the will of your heart, you will express partially that which you are truly. Your heart knows that what you do is in the right direction, yet, you still seek a form of approval before you allow yourself to fully become you. The natural expression that is for you to express, is the expression that doesn't relate to whatever you...
because you are blind to begin with. None of the answers you hold as true will hold against the absolute of you. For the absolute of you is not trapped within the answers you hold true. To be blind is not the result of an answer in your mind, but the expression of the nature that you hold behind. Let that nature in the forefront of your expression, and stop hiding behind the saviour as your answers. Your answers came from a question. Express the nature of that question and you will bring back..
whats your point? tell me what are you going to do in your life? You can talk intellectual but this will not change anything. I know you can make a long post on that I said "change". But we need practical decisions in a practical existence.
yourself as being. As long as you are partial within your being, you will never express your unlimited nature. Your nature cannot be limited within what is partial. The full expression of your inner nature is the only practical solution that will truly express change. You will only bring about true change when you express the essence of change as your nature.
in self honesty we express. Now you express your so called "inner nature", now what Alex? This wont bring change, self direction in self honesty brings change. Our nature is programmed, anything you feel you must do or might do is controlled, even the "deep sense" of it.
yes we are, but Alex just following that "inner" nature is following a "feeling" or a "sense". And so many people do that and are trapped within that programming, actually fueling the system, without knowing it.
what you have associated to define what that inner nature is, has forcefully come from your outside associations. The force which separates you from that inner nature, is the force that keeps those associations together within you. The nature that is you does not force those associations within you. Those associations have been generated through the attention you focus. The fruit of those associations is the feeling that keeps them together.
everything comes from associations, even what you think and see and realise, has a connection to it. I associate myself with everything because we are everything. This sais nothing thou, it are just words.
As long as you resist those feelings towards your inner nature, your inner nature will manifest those feelings towards you. The escape route you have chosen to not accept your nature is the "programming" you have received from those to whom you follow. Nature doesn't follow, nature authorises. It is only when you will become the authority of yourself that nature will authorise her expression as you. Who is the authority of your world? Who controls or decide what your actions should be in your wo
To get the answer you seek is to return the inquisition to yourself instead of returning the inquisition to another. Another doesnt have the value that is placed into question. Question that value until it becomes irrelevant to you. Only then will you be able to express nature as you.
world. Take back the power of decision you have given to that figure so that you become the authority of the nature that is you. As long as you are not the authority of your world, the essence of nature as authority of this world will be locked within the fear you hold against you.
To whom would you go to if no one could answer you? To question yourself properly is to return the inquisition to yourself instead of returning the inquisition to another. Another doesnt have the value that is placed into question. Question what you value within your question and you will open the way to your inner wisdom.
to myself, as I do now. I have always questioned myself. This does not say anything about our true nature or "inner wisdom", all that stuff is programmed anyway. So what I can do is be self honest, and decide what I will do.
You're right, it is not about who made it up in the 1st place. I wholeheartedly support the idea of equal money system for All. Let's change the world together, for all to be free!
How about resource based economy system, wouldn't that work also? I have doubts joining the forum, I question Desteni agenda... Always listen to yourself, no matter what, do not follow anything that is outside of yourself, trust your inner guidance. Otherwise you fall into a trap and can easily be manipulated. That which you give your attention to becomes your reality, you give it power with your focus... Listen what your heart tells you is true, not me or anyone else...
I dont know much about the resource based, but why not? these things can all be discussed to see if it might work and be integrated. I dont exclude anything. We never know anyones agenda, in this era we are flooded with the conspiracy stuff so no one can know for sure who to trust. So we have to trust on ourselves. In this I work together with desteni and wont let the fear stop me from doing. i trust myself in self honest.
I would so much want that we become telepathic sentient beings, there could never be hidden agenda, anyone would have 2 be real. Actually, in a way, we are sensing, at least on a vibrational level, you just feel how other person vibrates that is in front of you, your whole physical body is affected by that vibration. Now that I can't explain how, but you just sense it on some level.
Yes we are very much just watching and blame it on someone else and what they should do/ change. It's more easy and that is a lowsy excuse for powerty. Thumbs up for your video and I agree the discussion.
We need system against obstructive useless institutions like councils, ministries etc. Give
the virtual £50 and £50 cash for every one so the doctors, teachers police officers
envelopment and design companies would attending your own place and at suitable for you
time. Here the motivation for doing the natural inperson and real helpful stuff in our life.
OrganicLondon 4 months ago
The solution is to ELIMINATE money and establish an Economy Based in Resources
FilitosCDM 7 months ago
@FilitosCDM : That simply cant happen right now considering the state of human kind, the vast amount of people and different cultures in this world. We need a re education first, and equalizing money, to remove moneys power over life and place life back on nr 1. It is a first step, the fastest one I see right now considering our current state.
SpamAnn 7 months ago
@FilitosCDM : The Equal money system is the effective workable solution with our current reality. The zeitgeist movement is not. I investigated it, participated on the forum and saw the videos. I stand for an equal money system.
SpamAnn 7 months ago
@SpamAnn Anyway The equal money sistem will fail , as capitalism , socialism , comunism , and all that ism. Why ? Because is based in money , and the principle of infinite grow , in a finite world.
FilitosCDM 7 months ago
@FilitosCDM : not true. You can go and rea don the website and forum. Lots of these questions have been answered. It is nothing like communism or capitalism or the same money as we have now with profit and deflation and shit.
SpamAnn 7 months ago
The Earth is the piece of pie and we all deserve an equal piece. No more buying ten islands cause you got billions of dollars. This land is for all of us and we need to share it. Every person shall eat and get land and build a house. In return we can all do something for the environment. I don't have all the answers. This is just the blue print to real freedom.
TheRichie213 8 months ago
@TheRichie213 : That is so true! And that is what we want to establish in this world, so that no one can deny our equal right to life.
SpamAnn 8 months ago
the solution is called "genocide" and "xenophobia" ... remember Hitler?
RamzGT 1 year ago
@RamzGT : genocide and xenophobia are forms of abuse and selfish and also not very smart. The solution for abuse to stop is for humanity to change. Even if we get wiped out lets say by nature disasters, then those who are left will breed on and things will re-emerge as it did now. As long as we are not fully self directional in equality, things wont be better.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn I wish, I wish, I wish I could agree. I don't want death! However I'm not optimistic that we will truly be able to heal unconsciously without some overriding technological force.
integratedneuro (dot) com
for more
RamzGT 1 year ago
As an accountant this offends me as a human im with her. But tax collectors need work so.........
ITHEREONETHATHASNT 1 year ago
@ITHEREONETHATHASNT : tax collectors only need work in a system that requires tax. Its like in a system where they torture people to confess, you would say: hey , inquisitors need work so...
That some jobs are created for that system to operate, does nto justify the existence and continuation of that system.
SpamAnn 1 year ago 3
The only truly free society would be one in which every person had 100% control over his own property and no one had the right to coerce anyone else. The opposite is socialism where you own 100% of nothing and can be coerced 100%. Forget limited government because it's just limited socialism. Limited socialism is a contradiction in terms. Acorns become oak trees. Lion cubs become ferocious lions. Limited governments ALWAYS becomes tyrannical. -dharmashooter
KevZen2000 1 year ago
i like your accent, veryy nice point of view, mine varies
but similar to yours darling, im a libra/dragon i was 1988
baby so yeah hehe keep up the research ann your amazing,
all the time, stay beautiful
bobbbyboom11 1 year ago
Ann, have you checked out the Zeitgeist Movement? They advocate ending the monetary system in favor of a free distribution system sustained by, simply put, sustainable technologies. If resources are produced in overwhelming abundance through automation and cyberization, nothing would have monetary value.
Tanoro 1 year ago
@Tanoro : yes I have been a member of the zeitgeist forum for quite a while and also on the belgium one. Ending the monetary system cant work right now, we need a transition face, and this is equal money system. We need to look at more then technology and "fixing" the world on the outside. We need as much attention to our inside as well.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@Tanoro I too feel the transition into a resource/service based economy would be the most logical. There's no doubt technology is being supressed, Tesla infinite energy for example. Money cannot advance humans or quality of life, only technology, cybernisation, intelligent use of resources, a REAL education system and spiritual awakening can do that. Food,infinite energy,water and shelter is all we need for a social transition. Unfortunately so many humans fear change.
dreamcast98 1 year ago
Good for you! Yes indeed, first recognition of the problem is critical. People decide what fair exchange is. Governments have given all the wealth of the people to the central banks who tell us all countries are broke and we are slaves paying taxes on everything. We don't have to play this game or agree to this. We can decide on a better system and what better group than the youth of the world to insist on new fair exchanges and balanced sharing of wealth
MAmerval 1 year ago
One of the main reasons people want to be wealthy is to make other people feel poor, everyone showing off their new car or new house or latest gizmo, we're emotional 2 yr olds and we don't like the idea of sharing, I buy a Ferrari so Mick buys a Ferrari, now I don't like my Ferrari anymore because Mick's got one, so I've got to go get me a McLaren....that's consumerism in a nutshell.
LucasSumtimes 1 year ago
@LucasSumtimes : yes because if everyone has the same and nothing or no one is special, then what do they have to show off? lol
SpamAnn 1 year ago
we can never have peace as long as the big govt marxist/socialist jews keep taxing us to death and printing dollars to get rich.
end the fed.
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork : we can never have peace as long as the current money system is in place. Because it NEEDS abuse, it needs slave workers, it needs have and have nots. Without it it cannot function. Ill explain in an upcomming video.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
who do you think owns that money system? it's not blonde haired blue eyed aryan germans.
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork : the fact is that we all allow and support it
SpamAnn 1 year ago
WHAT JOKE S THIS?
duchas 1 year ago
@duchas : no joke
SpamAnn 1 year ago
I've checked the forum and it's nonesense.If everyone has the same amount of money and ENOUGH for a life time no one will have to work and that means no production and services.If I'm mistaken with this please have your say.
0RobinHood1 1 year ago
@0RobinHood1 : your mistaken;) this equal money system has been tested in small scaled communities and it was proven very effective. People actually like to contribute and do something. research Basic Income Grant (BIG)
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn Ok,I'll learn that out in a moment.But you should think at this alternative.What if we could eliminate money for good?I mean no money,no property,no buyers,no producers.A society where what is "mine",is "yours" too.
0RobinHood1 1 year ago
@0RobinHood1 : we can eliminate money if we can trust each other as life, and when all do wahts best for all.
before that, we need a system to make sure abusers do not abuse, and to get people to discover why they are the way they are.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
Dump ten wagon loads of money down a mine shaft,wait and see how much coal will come back up the shaft?Put a Sack full of money on the drivers seat of a train or bus,wait and see if the bus will drive away.
majorMcpharter 1 year ago
If you have spare money, then please tell us how much of it you personally have given to the starving people you seem to be concerned over?
I totally disrepect the young people who make videos to complain about the difference between "haves" and "have nots" while at the same time having enough wealth to own a computer, a video camera, and highspeed internet.
How lucky you are to be who you are.
AesopsRetreat 1 year ago
I have been a student and have earned almost nothing, in my past I donated money but realised this is not helping. donating money SUSTAINS the problem, this is also what the social workers here say now. A lot of the money is given to the weapons actually. You think your helping but your paying for WAR. Sad but true, little money ends up to help the people. And its not real help because the system keeps existing, without adressing the real core issue, you can send money all you want releaving
SpamAnn 1 year ago 3
your guilt feeling, but you are nto stopping it or making it better at all. We dont complain to complain, we talk about this for people to change themselves and then start changing the system. if the system doesnt change then nothing is going to change because these things will be re-created over and over again. Thats why the people who have all this have to speak up and USE the system to change the system. Giong away from it wont change it because there are those who love it.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
this will never change because people want what they can't have. and when they have it they don't want it anymore.
try to argue these points:
1- if everyone started out with "equal money" what would happen when one of them gets addicted to drugs (as i see happen every day here in the people's republic of eugene). are you telling me that addicts ARENT going to spend ALL the money they have on drugs. and then that they will not steal/cheat to get additional money. illogical
Awsomedotcom 2 years ago
these questions are answered on the forum. The addiction would be dealt with, the person would get assistance and be educated about it. Alcohol for example wont be allowed anyway. Less people will become addict also. If a person keeps fucking up, money flow will be stopped to them as a concequence or get community service. This is needed where people are still abusers. So this will motivate them to stop the bullshit they have allowed.
SpamAnn 2 years ago 2
lol alcohol won't be allowed good luck with that.
ok so already:
money flow will be stopped and community service.
what if they don't do the community service?
what if they keep stealing copper wire and bike tires so that they can fund their meth addiction.
obviously you've never been to eugene
Awsomedotcom 2 years ago
"If a person keeps fucking up, money flow will be stopped to them as a concequence or get community service. "
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn
obviously you are ignorant of how the real world works. regardless of whether you have money or no money
Awsomedotcom 1 year ago
so being not-ignorant means you have to obey towards how the world works? clearly the world isnt working. We will have to establish another way, and considering the state of human kind.
SpamAnn 1 year ago 2
@SpamAnn
"not-ignorant" is not a word. good luck convincing the meth heads down the street of your other "way", i'm sure they will happy to take the free money
Awsomedotcom 1 year ago
as I said: if money gets abused for dishonesty and self abuse it wont be tolerated.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
Auroville is a community in India where there are no money exchanges.
watch?v=SxstZFC8Vms
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
You cannot teach people to be good and be moral and not to run behind money.
Yoga/meditation is the *only* solution because it is the only science that has the capacity to change human nature.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
we have to change ourslves in self direction and self honesty by stopping our programmed mind from controlling us. meditation will not manifest a solution, you have to do it.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Yes - it must be done by ourselves, but where does the will power, determination and change of heart come from. How do you let go of being getting controlled by the programmed mind ? Only through techniques that promote self-analysis and contemplation.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
It comes from yourself, self direction in self honesty. If you stop the programmed mind to controle you, then you direct yourself and you become your willpower.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
read on the desteni forum about "how to"
SpamAnn 2 years ago
No science has that capacity - Because we are the source of the 'problem', it is only from and within Human Nature, that we can Change. It is the Origin of 'who we are' that has to Change for the World to Change.
annabrixthomsen 2 years ago
we have not met one yoga master yet in the hereafter that transcended sufficiently to stand as life -- meditation is a design of the mind which was implanted to distract the followers from reality -- in this -- dishonesty is cultivated slowly but surely till the being lose all right to life
DesteniProductions 2 years ago
yoga is not a religion - its not a set of morals or rules - its getting in touch with yourself to understand reality not distract from it. hmm..pretty judgemental i must say ..even without trying.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
there are different types of yoga, which one are you speaking about and how does it work?
SpamAnn 2 years ago
"oga is not a religion - its not a set of morals or rules - its getting in touch with yourself to understand reality not distract from it."
Wow. You seem to know a lot about yoga. Can you tell us what you "understand" about this reality, because I'm dying to know why the set-up of existence is to feed upon itself.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
I glance at the videos Darryl, Spam etc..have posted and I feel that pretty much everything you folks talk about - the issues, the injustice, environment, fake religions, mass hypnosis, monetary systems, etc...finds a perfect solution in Yoga. I guess yoga works on the the "root cause" and these issues are the symptoms.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
All forms of Yoga have a single objective - to help us understand who we are deep inside. We often identify with our thoughts, our conditioning, our education, our society. It becomes hard to separate ourselves from these relative identities (that keep changing) - but *that* is not us. There are many books you can read - "I am That" , "Yoga Sutras", "Autobiography of a Yogi", "The Life Divine", etc.. or even watch videos on Vedanta, Patanjali, etc..
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
@Darryl - the logical brain has its limits. I can try explaining "existence" to you through words. But *real* understanding comes through experience. Pretty much anything you hear from others your mind will judge, critically analyze and discriminate because that is the nature of the mind. Like they say "seeing is believing".
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
"acid," it seems to me that Yoga and meditation didn't do squat for the living conditions of millions and millions of Indians, or put food in their mouths OR give them shelter or an education. The ancient Aryan-Vedic-Brahminist culture with all the yogic techniques in the world could not bring equality to the varnas, castes and Dalits. Do you think lecturing on the value of yoga does any more for them? Give attention to what is HERE, not some exalted imaginary place in your mind. That's useless
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
When you say education - do you mean western concepts, because Yoga is clearly the highest education one can attain. The castes were designed to structure a 5000 yr old society and they evolved peacefully during Buddha, Shankara etc.. until the British came. They even wrote Indian history to make them look inferior. Yoga is not designed to feed people. But advanced techniques do that too ;-) Search "Solar Gazing" on You Tube.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
Sankara claimed that no creed or caste was real for him, but that did not stop others from practicing the tradition of varna division, did it? And he did as much yoga and meditation as anyone! It was as if he didn't live at all. Sankara, Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Ramana Marishi.WTF have they done to sort out this world beside offering a back door to hide in your mind while the world goes to hell? This is not a debate you can win, "acid." Because yoga no effect on suffering for all.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
India (followed by China) used to be the richest, most self-sufficient country on the planet until the Muslims and then the British invaded. Although, you may want to do some reading on how and why it became the "3rd world" :-).
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
History is a hobby of mine. But you haven't answered my question. I'll ask again: how has yoga sorted out this world when it couldn't even sort out India? And another thing - I post under my real name, because I want everyone who reads my words to know that I stand by them and don't need to hide behind a fake one so I can post whatever garbage that pops in my head. Not saying that YOU do that, btw. But really, your "truth-claim' that yoga can show you who you are "deep inside." Geez.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
Good Q. The fact is not even 1% of people in India practice Yoga today. 20% are Muslims and the rest have been fragmented through the British divide-and-rule and misinformation. Elite institutions only teach western sciences. We aren't told that unlike in the west, India never had a science-religion feud. Instead they teach us "moral science" and we know how well that works. Our history, our education and law is all copied from the Brits. Its clearly our fault - but all that must change.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
Even Vivekananda said it was useless to blame the British for all of India's problems, when centuries of abuse, exploitation and differences of caste and creed by the peoples of India itself were the cause of their great, unyielding suffering. Does yoga take responsibility for sorting out the UNBELIEVABLE poverty millions of Indians face each and every day. How DARE you insult their reality and my intelligence, speaking from a privileged position chewing on about morality. Pfffffft.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
Yoga and Dharma used to be taught in schools. Respect for human beings and animals alike used to be the norm. Taxila, Nalanda were the oldest most flourishing universities in the world. If everyone were Vivekananda, Darryl the world would be a heavenly place. There wouldn't be nuclear weapons, global hunger, marxism or croony capitalism.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
Vivekananda did what he could, but to wish for everyone to be like him is ineffective. As is yoga and meditation. Why doesn't god, or kali, or vashduveda, shiva, shakti, allah, yahweh DO anything to sort this world out? Because they can't. So we have to, because if the gods 'could' do it, by their own negligence or incompetence, the job has fallen to us. You cannot be effective while chanting your mantra on you yoga mat. this job calls for something much more SUBSTANTIAL.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
You have it completely wrong my friend. Hinduism doesn't have a concept of god(s) or any kind loving saviors like in Christianity. Shiva-Shakti are consciousness-manifested energy. It is not even theistic...just like in Buddhism. We believe in Karma - a simple chain law of cause and effect.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
Its our consciousness that drives our experience in the world. To begin with we have free will - but with our actions (karma) our free will gets more and more limited with the passage of time. There is no God sitting over us - its just a field of consciousness where everything (nature-space-time-matter) are born and everything dissolves. Yoga is the science, the knowledge to elevate our consciousness beyond greed, ego and hate.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
Our consciousness? But isn't Brahman All consciousness? Where is HIS responsibility in this? Or is he blameless?
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
Yes - the source of universal consciousness is named "Brahman". Nothing is good/bad, evil/godly, black/white. In Hinduism we call it "Leela" the big act. At the end of the day we are all playing a part in a big game which itself is not real. Suffering is itself an illusion.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
acid, you cannot verify that the games you are presenting (that universal consciousness exists and that suffering is not real") cannot be verified, and thus is only something Hindu religious tradition has claimed... but you cannot know that as FACT. Let's dispense with make-believe and deal with what is here, okay?
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
you asked a philosophical question - i stated what i know. That in no way contradicts the fundamental capacity of a very practical science like yoga to evolve human consciousness.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
I'll give more credence to philosophy one it provides a way that feeds the billions that go without food. Until then, mental acrobats that don't mean doodley-squat. Useless.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
Alright - I hope you come up with a more creative intellectual solution to global problems. So far capitalism, communism, oligarchy, democracy, dictatorship, feudalism ...have failed and failed pretty miserably.
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
"acid," I was talking about all "deities' - not just the Vedic pantheon
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
Obviously if there was a God watching over us there wouldn't be suffering. Who is claiming there is a God ? Who is claiming its not our fault ? Who says we are not responsible for our actions ?
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
"who's claiming there's a God?" You're claiming that Yoga can do all this wonderful stuff, but I'm saying it;s useless if it doesnt change the world, which it obviously cannot, sir.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
watch?v=dpozbHnm9Qk
Peace out :-)
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
Yoga helps you control metabolism and regulates hormones (chakras) that in-turn drive our emotions and thoughts. Yoga helps us maintain inner peace. Mantras are sound waves or vibrations that promote "positive" energy in the body. Nothing religious or non-scientific about that. I mean you have no clue now do you ?
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
@Desteni you seem to care about animals. Have you researched where in the world are the most number of vegetarians, where animals are worshiped as gods and in general cared for more than any other country. Your videos about Hindu culture are very misguided and not accurate.
watch?v=kpqG5peA2dk
acidcrashguy 2 years ago
do a research on how polarity works - you will see that 'trying to do good' comes from fear of consequence, and the lack of understanding that man IS cause and effect - therefore consequence cannot be escaped - we are facing the consequences of what has been allowed - thus the question is:
how do we stop - without merely going to the opposite polarity?
VlogsBella 2 years ago
everything is a system
and so is man
until man becomes the living-solution equal as one
no-one is free until all is free
why? how? what? better investigate.
VlogsBella 2 years ago
Money and economic exchange is a man made concept, just as our society is created. In an "equal money" society, does that mean that we would all have the same sized house, cars, material goods, etc? What about food and other goods? There are varying prices and qualities for everything and that influences the price...also supply and demand. How is this addressed?
scottyinmesquite 2 years ago
No, things would be alligned towards what is best for all. So things that abuse others wont be allowed. But that doesnt mean everyone has exactly the same. Prices will be fixed, because it wont be based on gold or debt, such as it is with our flawed system right now. go to the forum to discuss and read answers to the questions.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
The solution lies in visibility, everything concerning money is hushed up. Thus when it crashes it is down to lack of visibility which only encourages slight of hand economics.
When we all know the full picture it will amaze us at the extent of wealth held by a small few, who make the rules and benefit themselves only.
Godsahumanist 2 years ago
The rich and powerful have always been more resourceful, creative, persistent and result oriented in their goals that is why they are rich and powerful. The current global money system will probably die sooner than later but it be a result of greed, hubris and overreach rather than any concerted effort by well meaning individuals.
flexorder 2 years ago
and when it falls, more possebilities open.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Well, Here's my solutions to fiat money...back it to Gold and Silver so it doesn't deflate.
Other than that.....money is great and powerful and I like it unequal.
Regards, SF
AccuracyMarked 2 years ago
gold and silver and that shit is done, its old, it doesnt work, it has to go.
money is not great and powerful, we have put ideas onto money and made it to serve some and not all.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Huh? So if I wanted to give you a gold krugerrand you wouldn't want it?...because it doesn't work. Sorry pukey gold is shear power....people do things for me.
AccuracyMarked 2 years ago
The new system will be without gold and silver and debt.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Gold and silver is superfluous, as the USA has proven. We just need a conceptual change in how we make money work for us.
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
Do you hear about Resource Based Economy??
juliomezameza 2 years ago
the reason why people wait for disaster to happen is because everyone is in denial...
the world is too big and we can't see the big picture unless it has an impact on our own lives. Its like... hey! nothings wrong over here... so why should I worry?
Bethrezen333 2 years ago
yes exactly, thats the mind set we are trapped in. pure egoism
SpamAnn 2 years ago
we see in pictures that is why we can't see sound
JornVinceHardus 2 years ago
All forms of money corrupt. To eliminate poverty, one must convince those having the greatest amounts of money ( Gates, Buffet, etc.) to rid themselves of money. If there is no desire for money at the highest levels, then there will be no need to continue with its use.
One problem that will still exist will be thoswe who believe they can control the needs of a nation and keep all supplies to control the release as they choose. Thereby, they will still keep the poor at their beckon call.
Whatevery1Nose 2 years ago
that wont work, and is right now not realistic. Ofcourse it is where we want to go and being able to live and cooperate together without money would be cool. But for now we need interim solutions to stop world wide poverty and suffering because of it. And from there we move on
SpamAnn 2 years ago
That is much easier to deal with. Stop paying the bailout money at the top levels and pay it to the people who are actually needy.
Again, however, you will be faced with the same people holding supplies and/or monies designated for the needy..
Whatevery1Nose 2 years ago
remove supply and demand and go to equal distribution, next to this equal distribution of money or that which you need to survive has to come a secondary system so that the primary fear of not being able to survive because of lack of money is eliminated.
JornVinceHardus 2 years ago
Jorn, that does not remove those who enjoy controlling others. Hence, force will have to be used against those people and we would be right back in the same posuition as we are now.
Ask yourself if someone earning $100,000.00 per year is willing to come down in pay. Chanvces are the answer is no. Hence, everyone has to receive the equal amount as that person. This is not possible to have all 7 billion citizens receiving that amount.
The only answer is the elimination of ALL monies.
Whatevery1Nose 2 years ago
right now elimination is not possible with the current mindset of humanity. People like you say:a re still abusers. So what we need is a "controle" for abusers, like the micro chip suggested. So all abuse is trackable.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Anybody hear about Resource Based Economy??
juliomezameza 2 years ago
What's going on:
1) The (New) Great Game
2) Agenda 21 (HAIL Codex Alimentarius!)
Reasons:
1) money addiction (single most effective dopamine trigger!!)
[Olds J, Milner P. (1954). "Positive reinforcement produced by electrical stimulation of septal area and other regions of rat brain". J Comp Physiol Psychol 47 (6): 41927.]
2) under diagnosed, tolerated and in Western Nihilizations hugely honored antisocial personality disorder (ICD-10 / 3-6% male pop.), which destroys reciprocal altruism.
Tressco 2 years ago
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
- Henry Ford
"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks."
- Lord Acton
Tressco 2 years ago
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes.
Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
- Napoleon Bonaparte
Tressco 2 years ago
The current global economic melt-down was created by two parties in the U.S. economy. The socialist Clintonistas who forced Jewish bankers to give loans to people who could not afford them. The bankers not willing to hold bad loans that would eventually default then packaged and sold them to the Chinese. When the paper finally went bad with the interest increases the whole economy collapsed spreading around the world. The whole thing has nothing to do with rich or poor people.
LoungeLizardLouie 2 years ago
it has everything to do with it. Without poor and rich that type of system does not even exist.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
it's not relevant who's 'fault' it is - what's relevant is that we are all here together - we all share the same physical needs - we all are affected by the current system of separation and abuse in one way or another.
we each are subject to the circumstances we are born-into - we are responsible to create equal circumstances in this world, so that every Being, no-matter where they are born, has an equal opportunity to Life.
Dignified Life for All!
BellaBargilly 2 years ago
hi this is mchezo. u responded yo my response on law of attraction off of u tube. i wanted to explain this to u. its not that some attract everything to their self and fuc every1 else its just that some carry the attitude & put the blame & cause of everything on someone else except theirself, which is a negative vibration since we r all energy. & even if i was to explain the truth to 1 that 1 will resist n defense & wont b leve there 4 that vibration of negative energy draws neg n life. peace lv
mchezomc 2 years ago
The law of attraction uses the law of balance, which is abusive in nature because it requires the "negative" to exist, thus creating abuse. The law of attraction is used by people in dishonesty, such as people that want to attract "success" because of their own self intrest while they care nothing about the starving people, or people that want to get thin because they judge themselves on their appearance and others etc....
SpamAnn 2 years ago
it appears to me that you dont understand what your saying & especially dont have a clue as to what i speak. it is apparent because u keep saying the same thing without even disproven my explaination on how you are wrong about tha nature of & law attraction
mchezomc 2 years ago
Yes I do. Watch the videos from desteni productins on energy and the law of attraction
SpamAnn 2 years ago
I actually found Ann´s reply very straight forward and Direct.
livingequality 2 years ago
Law of attraction is greed- Because you want more than what you need. Thinking yourself to all the money in the world. Not realizing that you fuck up others experiences of themselves in the process. Where some have it all. And some have nothing at all.
ViktorHansEmanuel 2 years ago
I totally agree
ALFA2029 2 years ago
Your intentions are right but you are clueless as to what is going on.The money system is totally controlled by the same few families for 100`s of years. Look up Rothchilds....look up anything by eustace mullins on the new world order.
Gunnarsguns 2 years ago
I know, and its very likely that those in REAL power are known by hardly anyone.
Now this does not mean it has to be this way forever, we can stand up for life and direct ourselves and group, so we can bring change which they wont be able to do anything about.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
There is a world wide awakening going on right now and you are part of it. You can expect very stiff opposition from those who wish to preserve the status quo. Good luck and God Bless in your journey .
Gunnarsguns 2 years ago
Thats why we work the system from the inside out, instead of going into opposition and fight
SpamAnn 2 years ago
What good is a awakening if do not get practical and come together at one point?
ViktorHansEmanuel 2 years ago
So, the poorest nations today would be like the richest nations, if they could transport back 400 years.
So, the problem for Industrial Earthlings is the "empathy" we feel for the "developing world"....
We happen to be stuck in a historical time slice that represents the greatest distinction in wealth among the globe.
People shouldn't live in the desert, it's deserted for a reason.
The distinction is due to ENERGY AVAILABILITY... look up "Peak Oil"
UnderseaCaveman 2 years ago
if we are all equal and one, i want my share of your body. you're a FINE lookin' woman. it's not fair that I don't get an opportunity to have sex with you! i am sexually deprived! I am starving here.. give me your body! i am equal to all okay?
vutEwa 2 years ago
You dont get it at all, what equality means. Go to the forum and read about it. Doing whats best for all includes not following sexual desires as pictures.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
No, I do get it. I get it fully what equality means. "equal work for equal pay, mmm mmmm mmmm". you missed my point. you kneejerk about my wanting an equal bit of your body, but therein shows the folly of this equal argument. you feel that way because your body is yours, not mine. got it. understood. now, my fruits of my labor are MINE and nobody elses! its the same thing! so nobody gets a piece of what I created on my own, nobody gets my money because it is MINE.
vutEwa 2 years ago
It doesnt mean that when you work for extra, you wont be able to get extra.
What the principle of the equal money system is, is that NO ONE is excluded and has to suffer because they have no money. People who want to earn extras through work will be able to do that.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
this system does not work! all it does is demerit high achievers and elevate the evil men who will rule the world. it makes less rich and more poor (equally poor) and the rich people are richer than can exist in a FREE society. it is EVIL. you don't recognize this now, but sometime in the future you may. i apologize for using your body to illustrate my point. you're obviously a person with a good heart. I will disagree with your arguments here forever, to the death, but peace be to you.
vutEwa 2 years ago
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LoveQuotesScarf 2 years ago
And I will repeat my words many more times. We do need a new world order, not the ones they fear in conspiracy theories, but a new world order that does what is best for ALL. Everyone needs it, ask anyone who suffers because of money. And I mean real suffering. I dont know who laura ingles is.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
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LoveQuotesScarf 2 years ago
we have to change the world, not just 1 country that doesnt solve the world wide problem of inequality
SpamAnn 2 years ago
u r right about this. Our attention has been diverted away from what is free and abundant to what is scarce and has to be paid for.
ouijaboy666 2 years ago
no other solution than your natural expression can truly be of any significance to what you fight against.
ouroboros28 2 years ago
The only thing which is able to make a difference in this world is the purity of your expression. As long as you look to fix the world without being pure as your natural expression first, you will be maintaining that which you fight against. Nature is in allowance with whatever happens because nature doesn't know how to resit. As long as you resist your nature, you will manifest the resistance which is at the core of all of humanitie's issues. No one other than your nature can bring you the...
ouroboros28 2 years ago
Nature is also a program. What exactly is it you lean with "natural expression"? Some people say their sex fantasies are their natural expression you know, or their violent tempers.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
what is it that i mean with "natural expression" is the expression that your heart has always expressed within you. As long as you are partial within your expression to the will of your heart, you will express partially that which you are truly. Your heart knows that what you do is in the right direction, yet, you still seek a form of approval before you allow yourself to fully become you. The natural expression that is for you to express, is the expression that doesn't relate to whatever you...
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
And why should we follow that blindly?
SpamAnn 2 years ago
because you are blind to begin with. None of the answers you hold as true will hold against the absolute of you. For the absolute of you is not trapped within the answers you hold true. To be blind is not the result of an answer in your mind, but the expression of the nature that you hold behind. Let that nature in the forefront of your expression, and stop hiding behind the saviour as your answers. Your answers came from a question. Express the nature of that question and you will bring back..
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
whats your point? tell me what are you going to do in your life? You can talk intellectual but this will not change anything. I know you can make a long post on that I said "change". But we need practical decisions in a practical existence.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
yourself as being. As long as you are partial within your being, you will never express your unlimited nature. Your nature cannot be limited within what is partial. The full expression of your inner nature is the only practical solution that will truly express change. You will only bring about true change when you express the essence of change as your nature.
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
in self honesty we express. Now you express your so called "inner nature", now what Alex? This wont bring change, self direction in self honesty brings change. Our nature is programmed, anything you feel you must do or might do is controlled, even the "deep sense" of it.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
associate. It is the expression of the collective voice within you. Which is the voice that tells you that you are nature.
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
yes we are, but Alex just following that "inner" nature is following a "feeling" or a "sense". And so many people do that and are trapped within that programming, actually fueling the system, without knowing it.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
what you have associated to define what that inner nature is, has forcefully come from your outside associations. The force which separates you from that inner nature, is the force that keeps those associations together within you. The nature that is you does not force those associations within you. Those associations have been generated through the attention you focus. The fruit of those associations is the feeling that keeps them together.
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
everything comes from associations, even what you think and see and realise, has a connection to it. I associate myself with everything because we are everything. This sais nothing thou, it are just words.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
The way you're Hiding Behind Words, Alex...
it's beeyouteefull.
Can't ... see... you...
DarrylWThomas 2 years ago
As long as you resist those feelings towards your inner nature, your inner nature will manifest those feelings towards you. The escape route you have chosen to not accept your nature is the "programming" you have received from those to whom you follow. Nature doesn't follow, nature authorises. It is only when you will become the authority of yourself that nature will authorise her expression as you. Who is the authority of your world? Who controls or decide what your actions should be in your wo
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
which feelings towards my inner nature? which escape route?
SpamAnn 2 years ago
To get the answer you seek is to return the inquisition to yourself instead of returning the inquisition to another. Another doesnt have the value that is placed into question. Question that value until it becomes irrelevant to you. Only then will you be able to express nature as you.
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
nature is also a program.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
world. Take back the power of decision you have given to that figure so that you become the authority of the nature that is you. As long as you are not the authority of your world, the essence of nature as authority of this world will be locked within the fear you hold against you.
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
which figure? If I would have given my authority away, then it is to my programmed mind, not a specific figure.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
To whom would you go to if no one could answer you? To question yourself properly is to return the inquisition to yourself instead of returning the inquisition to another. Another doesnt have the value that is placed into question. Question what you value within your question and you will open the way to your inner wisdom.
AlexParkinson30 2 years ago
to myself, as I do now. I have always questioned myself. This does not say anything about our true nature or "inner wisdom", all that stuff is programmed anyway. So what I can do is be self honest, and decide what I will do.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Rev. Jim Jones had this idea long before you did. Go ahead - take a drink
hdhighway 2 years ago
it is not about who had it first, ill research jim jones
SpamAnn 2 years ago
You're right, it is not about who made it up in the 1st place. I wholeheartedly support the idea of equal money system for All. Let's change the world together, for all to be free!
denispleiadian 2 years ago
How about resource based economy system, wouldn't that work also? I have doubts joining the forum, I question Desteni agenda... Always listen to yourself, no matter what, do not follow anything that is outside of yourself, trust your inner guidance. Otherwise you fall into a trap and can easily be manipulated. That which you give your attention to becomes your reality, you give it power with your focus... Listen what your heart tells you is true, not me or anyone else...
denispleiadian 2 years ago
I dont know much about the resource based, but why not? these things can all be discussed to see if it might work and be integrated. I dont exclude anything. We never know anyones agenda, in this era we are flooded with the conspiracy stuff so no one can know for sure who to trust. So we have to trust on ourselves. In this I work together with desteni and wont let the fear stop me from doing. i trust myself in self honest.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
I would so much want that we become telepathic sentient beings, there could never be hidden agenda, anyone would have 2 be real. Actually, in a way, we are sensing, at least on a vibrational level, you just feel how other person vibrates that is in front of you, your whole physical body is affected by that vibration. Now that I can't explain how, but you just sense it on some level.
denispleiadian 2 years ago
I agree
1BustedMyth 2 years ago
I feel you, I really do.
detriplea 2 years ago
Yes we are very much just watching and blame it on someone else and what they should do/ change. It's more easy and that is a lowsy excuse for powerty. Thumbs up for your video and I agree the discussion.
zuilov 2 years ago
God bless you germans
-Vasha Vasheo
PS I hope you got a kick outta my video
xxxpuppetmsterxxx 2 years ago
im from Belgium not Germany thou
SpamAnn 2 years ago
I know God bless you belgian-german hyrbrids.
I love you all.
J/K on the hybrids
xxxpuppetmsterxxx 2 years ago
Let me tell you something
when we get the crooks out then the money will be in everyones pockets..
and more videos to come
"Do not ignore"
xxxpuppetmsterxxx 2 years ago