i like what Chuck Missler explain the Church, what he is saying that the Church is not higher than the saints that precedes but it require a certain respect to it, "why r u complaining bout how much i pay the other guy when u have already first agree to your labor. "
This guy is dead on. There is no emotion, just logical fact. Those that believe the whole rapture after the tribulation just hope to have a 7 year warning so they can straighten out then. Decide and act now or face the devastation to come. Amen and thank you God for giving me the eyes to see!
@sorens70601 - you are wrong. Worse that that, you are so judgmental. Even worse than that: you are a name caller. A tree is known by its fruit. Matthew 7:16. Your name calling makes you in league with Satan. For Satan is the accuser of the brethern. I have met Chuck Missler, and he may be human, but he is not a deceiver. He's right on.
I see that all of you understand what Paul tells us about correcting each other in love. Good to see your testimony to GOOD Christian behaviour amongst each other. Your salvation is by the GRACE OF GOD...Period. Someone elses salvation is NOT for you to judge...we are to HUMBLY seek the word of God, and I am seeing neither of you doing that here. SO..please discontinue being a HORRID example of a Christian....thank you.
Just a little side note. Morgan, do you know that the Bride of Christ will Judge the World & the Fallen Angels? 1Corinthians 6:2-3. And in Jude 14-16 we're coming BACK WITH Jesus to JUDGE. BTW, the Bride gets "fine white linen" to wear and we also come back riding horses. Revelation 19:7-20 Just trying to help you out, using the BIBLE only. MARANATHA
Hey Morgan - do you know the difference between "Rewards" and "Sword"? Jesus comes WITH Rewards in the Rapture. Revelation 22:12; Colossians 3:24; 2Timothy 4:8 ; 1Peter 5:4. Christ comes at the 2nd Coming WITH a SWORD to KILL His enemes. No Rapture; No Rewards. Those dead Trib Saints only get WHITE ROBES. Revelation 7:13-14. You should start reading the Holy Bible. FOLKS, please read the Scriptures I have given. Morgan refuses to.....therefore, he is a FALSE TEACHER an APOSTATE.
Just a question..........Are you implying because I don't believe in the pre-trib raptured that I'm living in sin and part of the 5 foolish virgins? If you read the context of the parable of the 10 virgins it is trying to convey an attitude of being "READY" and "WATFCHFUL"......
I thank you for your comment regarding the 10 Virgins, it is a perfect parable regarding people who are ready and watchful and the ones who are not. Can you please send me the verses that say we are going to get raptured before the tribulation and also please send me the verses regarding the 2 staged return of Christ. All verses regarding the 2nd coming of Christ speak of cosmic disturbances and a sound of a trumpet. A very loud event, not something secret or silent....
The problem is, Mr Missler is using the Jewish wedding to create his theology of pre-trib rapture. The reality is, you need to use the bible to determine theology, not traditions of men. If you read Mat 24, you will see in the context of Mat 24 his disciples asking him "What are the signs of your coming and the end of the age?" Why didn't Jesus mention anything about the rapture? As a matter of fact, Jesus said in Mat 24:31 That his angels will gather the christians after his appearing..
@1979jdw Mr. Missler is exactly CORRECT!! Read Matthew 25:1-13. 10 Virgins = 10 Christians; Bridegroom = Jesus Christ. The 5 FOOLISH Christians were NOT Ready for the Groom. They were living in sin, not paying any attention to what He Preached to them. Living their lives for themselves and NOT For Him. He Came to get them, they WERE LEFT BEHIND. Door closed on them. No WEDDING OR SUPPER for them; they're going to MISS ALL the Festivies, Recieving their Rewards, Jesus Getting Coronated!
If the pre-T happens GREAT! ....if not, be aware that scripture only says his coming “again” is ONCE for a GROUP out of 14 harpazoes, not 2x. Those that “fall” will all but quote 2Ptr3:4. We all have boo-boos [1Cor11:19a]. Whatever happens (or not): do NOT deny the Lord! Reallayman.webs.com check out the “more” section for some of the holes in the swiss-cheese pre-t thinking. Simple & LITERAL interpretation works.
If 7 years of tribulation have to precede the coming of Christ, then one at least knows when Christ is coming back, but according to the Bible, no man knows not even the angels in heaven... that is somewhat contradictory.
@valleart No one knows when the Rapture is going to happen. It can be at any time. However, they will know when the 2nd Coming is going to happen. Almost to the day. Read Daniel 12:11-12. The 2 Witnesses preach the Gospel for 1,260 days (42 months) then they're taken to Heaven (raptured in front of their enemies). The 144,000 Jew who preach the Gospel (part of the remnant) are also taken to Heaven in Rev. 14. The rest of the "remnant" are to be protected by God until He returns Rev. 12
(KJV) Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
JHMH, first of all, you're assuming that we come back with the Lord. The Lord only said that He comes back with His angels (Matthew 25:31). Secondly, you're unable to show any evidence of a wedding or marriage supper in Heaven. You think pretending that there are 1-2 years between Rev 19:7-11 makes it more believable, but it boils down to lack of Scriptural evidence. Thirdly, angels wear white (Rev 15:6). Fourthly, you didn't answer my other questions.
JHMH, where is "onward Christian soldiers" in the Bible? Also, where is the church ever called God's "army"? Lastly, quote the verse you believe describes an actual wedding supper or wedding in Heaven.
@tumordoctor In Revelation 19:7-9. You think the "Wedding supper of the Lamb" takes place amongst the dead of the earth after we come back with Christ?? There's probably a period of a year or two between Revelation 19:9 & Rev. 19:11 when Christ comes back WITH us, wearing "many Crowns", the ones we lay at His feet in Revelation 4:9-11. We are wearing the same clothing in Revelation 19:14 as in Rev. 19:7-8
2)There is no description of any wedding or marriage supper happening in Heaven prior to the Lord's return. Only the announcement in Revelation 19:6-10. If you have evidence to the contrary, post chapter and verses.
@tumordoctor We are the "Onward Christian Soldiers". Christ NEVER called His Angels an "army". The Wedding supper of the Lamb takes place right before Christ comes back to Earth, then WE come back WITH Him Rev. 17:14.
JHMH, 1)The "armies" are indeed His angels. I'll believe the Lord: (KJV) Matthew 25:31- "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy ANGELS with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory And Paul: (KJV) 2 Thessalonians 1:7- "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty ANGELS,"
Just like exodus 12 God said kill a lamb put the blood on the door posts an top post , an death will pass over you as long as your under the blood,eat quickly with your shoes on ,staff in hand, and took them out in one day.Now a days, God will take us out in one day an the only place thats safe is under the blood of Jesus Christ. Thank you JESUS
KJV) Revelation 15:6- "And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles."
@tumordoctor His armies are NOT angels. They are the Born-Again Christians who were Rapture BEFORE the Tribulation Period. See the many Crowns He is wearing? They are the Crowns we lay at His feet. We are His Bride, Body, Saints, Holy Ones, Church. We've receive our Crowns, watched the Coronation of Christ, go to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, then come back WITH Jesus at His 2nd Coming. In Rev. 19:7-10 we are getting ready to come back. We rule & reign with Christ for 1,000 from Jerusalem
KJV) 2 Thessalonians 1:7- "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his MIGHTY ANGELS, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"
2007DNT, okay, I'm "getting back to you". In Matthew 25:31, the Lord clearly says who He comes back with: (KJV) Matthew 25:31- "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the HOLY ANGELS with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:" Paul reiterated this:
1)The 24 elders don't even include themselves as being among the redeemed when they sing the new song in Rev 5:10 in the original manuscripts. The KJV altered it to 1st person plural.
2)Scripture doesn't say that we're taken to Heaven after we meet Him in the air.
3)There is no description of a wedding or marriage supper in Heaven. Only the announcement right before the Lord returns.
4)The Lord only said that He comes back with His angels (Matthew 25:31).
The pretrib rapture=a terribly false teaching. The Lord said that there would be only ONE resurrection of believers "at the last day". A fact which Paul reiterated in 1 Cor 15:22-24.
@tumordoctor See the 24 elders in Revelation 4:1-5 They have their crowns. No one gets a crown until all Believers on earth at that specific time are in Heaven. We get our crowns & rewards, watch the Coronation of Christ, go to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb then come back WITH Christ at His 2nd Coming when He is wearing MANY crowns. What you need to do is READ the Bible verse by verse, in order, instead of jumping around & listening to others who don't read the Bible either.
@ lizazoon it was said in the old testament that Jesus would be betrayed or sold for thirty pieces of silver. Many years later he was actually betrayed by Judas Iscariot for exactly 30 pieces of silver. Jesus was captured that night. That doesn't sound very broad to me! Sounds like the prophets were right on the money
"88 reasons for 1988"... I was born in 1988, haha. I'm sure it will happen to some infants, being Raptured with their Christian parents, without really having to live on Earth. I wonder, though, if only infants of Christian parents (baptized) will be Raptured? It seems that way to me.
One point I am confused on. If the "dead" in Christ will rise first, then we which are alive shall be changed....Why will the OT Saints be raised later at the Second coming????
@lizazoon Acts 1 6So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" 7He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.
@muktuklou ; Of course you can`t set a date, not even a decade..This bullshit has been going on for 2.000 years and people still believe this nonsense.
@lizazoon<<<<------- you need to do your homework. The bible is the only ancient Holy book that has 100 % of it's prophesies fulfilled.(except the end time ones that are coming to pass in our lifetime) That fact alone should open your eyes to the truth of It being God's true word.
@muktuklou Any bible prediction that seems to be fulfilled is coincidence, or the prophecy is so vague, that sooner or later an event that could be interpreted to fulfill the prophecy ,was doomed to happen. Not a single prophecy gives EXACT IRREFUTABLE data.
@lizazoon Like Psalm 22: 16 Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet. 18 They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.
Fulfilled in Luke 23: 33When they came to the place called the Skull, there they crucified him, along with the criminals—. 34Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
@muktuklou-- 16 Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet.
18 They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing-- This was an easy prediction to make. The romans crucified many and the soldiers divided the clothing. And where are the dogs ?
@lizazoon Besides the prophecies about Jesus were so OBVIOUS(LOL) that those for whom the prophecy was intended, didn`t even recognise him as the Messiah. And even 2.000 years later, knowing all the prophecies, they still don`t say: Oh my god we made a mistake. That`s how all bible prophecies are. VAGUE,LACKING EXACT IRREFUTABLE data.
@lizazoon "The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but for everyone to come to repentence." 2Peter 3:9 "A day with the Lord is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day." 2Peter 3:8
He is still giving you time to go to Him. Christ can return at any time for "His Own".
One day He will. He is God Almighty, knows the heart of every man, woman & child. He loves you.
and my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the peoples; and as one gathereth eggs that are forsaken, have I gathered all the earth: and there was none that moved the wing, or that opened the mouth, or chirped.
i usually enjoy chuck but he is as far out as a light house on this rapture nonsense. this originated in approx 1830 when a young scottish girl named margaret mcdonald claimed via extra biblical revelation that there would be a secret rapture. margaret was also spoke in ecstatic tongues and did ghost writing (not exactly reliable) this was picked up by edward irving and then john nelson darby and we have tim la haye and the left behind fiction. chuck do your homework.
he just said in part 2 (or 3) that the great tribulation is the wrath of God upon the earth, now he's saying that after the rapture the earth is NOT judged. contradiction! what about the 7 seals, trumps and vials? the bible never, ever says anywhere that translated saints go to heaven before the 2nd coming. please show me that. jesus gives us signs to know when his coming is near, but he clearly says no one knows the day or hour. this is why his coming is like a thief in the night.
he says that during the rapture of the church he comes FOR his own, but during the 2nd coming he comes WITH his own. this is not true at all. look at the supposed rapture passage of 1 thess. 4:13-18; he comes 'for' AND 'with' his own; "we shall be caught up in the clouds TOGETHER WITH THEM to meet the lord in the air." in rev. 19-20 we also see him coming WITH his own (the armies of heaven) and FOR his own (the first resurrection, rev 20:5-6).
these different passages are referring to the same single event. some passages give more information than others. some passages look at the event from different perspectives than others, and people take the differences and make two different comings out of them. this is clearly what has happened. the bible is a progressive revelation. if we use the proper principles of hermeneutics and put them all together we'll easily see that its all one event, not two. i humbly disagree with missler.
when you think about it his PROOF for the rapture is based on the ASSUMPTION of a rapture. neither jesus, nor his apostles, ever said that he would come twice more, seven years apart. nor did he say that his return would be a two-staged event. so where is his concrete basis for believing this doctrine?
people its not to late to be saved! in romans ch10 vers 9-11
that if you confess with your mouth the lord jesus and believe in your heart that god raised him from the dead, you will be saved! for with the heart one believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. in acts ch 2 vers 38
then peter said to them repent ,and let every one of you be baptized in the name of jesus christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the holy spirit !
I can't understand why so many Christians expect to go through the Tribulation, along with God haters, unbelievers and idolaters! Plus the Rapture is for any one who comes to believe in Jesus Christ and who believes Jesus will come back for what the Bible calls "His bride"! I too used to be a God-hater and an idolater, but now thanks be to God I am reconciled to God through Jesus Christ' blood, mercy and forgiveness!
You know why? Because every person is filled to the brim with pride and thinks that no matter what, they are right. I t really ticks me off because I have spent 10 years of my life confused beyond belief about several issues. But thank the Lord for Mr. Missler among others. Believe it or not, I have learned more from you tube than I have from church. And I think thats pretty sad.
"I have learned more from you tube than I have from church. And I think thats pretty sad."
the church building is not the church, the church is you and i. where 2 or more are gathered in HIS name. think small groups, like missler said 6 to 10. this is what i have been doing for the last year, small group. discard all denominational traditions and beliefs and study the scriptures with an open mind and let the HOLY SPIRIT be your teacher. IMHO
I agree completely. Among truth there are many lies and you tube is also filled with them. I guess Im just saying that if it was not for you tube, I would never have seen half of the videos I have. These videos provoke thought and it makes for a very fun day to search the Word for verification of what you here.
@MaliceDren Your spot on center mass with ur essements of the present Ecclessia of the Church Of Today (laoidacian). Surely read Malachi:3 15-18 & Malachi:4 for another look to the HarpaZo its the last book in the Talmud (OT) . Maranatha
@MaliceDren ...Missler is teaching Heresy, and promoting the Darby/ Irving speculative nonsense, that will be totalyy discredited in my upcoming book in January.
Just a cursory overview of the scriptures, makes it clear, that the "pre-trib theory" is fictitious fabrication. Acts 3:22-23 says Christ "must remain in Heaven" until..."the restitution of All things".(that is the Millenium) The "Proof text" of 1.Cor.15:50-54,(yes verse 54, which is both part of text and context) says that "Death"..
....will "be abolished" at that time. The only time death is abolished according to the scriptures, is five monthe before the "end of the seven year "covenant week".(or five months before the end of the last half of the Tribulation of 1260 days, Rev.9:6) Besides, 1.Thess.4:15-17, in the Greek, says "We the Living , the ones SURVIVING."
The words "surviving"(in verses 15, and 17) posits a tribulational "time-line", AKA Mt.24.
Missler obviously does Not read Greek. Besides, He is rumored...
...to be a member of the 'masonic Lodge'. You Cannot Be a Christian, and be a Mason. Those two systems are 'mutually exclusive' of each other !! one being of God, the other, of Lucifer, (or Satan, as he is better known) (Read Ezekiel Chapter 8, in the KJV)
Missler is a false teacher on this topic of the Resurrection, as my upcoming book will prove. It is sad that he manages to deceive so many with this Darby /Irving speculative
nonsense. I have challenged Him to debate, but No response !!!
@sorens70601 I'm quite sure your upcoming book will be as misinformed & as unChristian as you are. I'm sure you'll do the unbelievers proud. You have to be the most ungodly person I've ever posted to for almost 2 years. You are unskilled, unknowledgable & untruthful as any Pharisee would be. You are using YouTube as your own free "advertising" site and you are a DENIER of the Word of God. You will be judged, harshly I would say, by the Creator, which you seem to abhor. Go Away
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ...You are the most disgracefull rotten person I have ever had the displeasure to respond to. Your lack of biblcal knowledge, disrespect arrogance and downright anti Christly behaviour, has "hung you out" time and again as to the condescending attitude you possess. As for my book, within weeks of its appearance, you will see all these false "pre-trib Guru's" running for cover, or they will convert and become true Christians.
@sorens70601 It is you that is ungrateful and lack knowledge & Godly Bible Study. You should use self control, much of which you're lacking. Maybe you'll be "resurrected" AFTER Jesus comes back at His 2nd Coming. Revelation 20:4-6. But I have a feeling you won't be resurrected until Revelation 20:11-15 when you stand before God with the rest of dead non-Christians. COME SOON, LORD.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ...There you go again, shooting off your vile mouth with a STUPID and IDIOTIC comment. Can anyone blame me for calling you a MORON !!! I think Not !!!!
@sorens70601 There you go - denying God's Word again. ALL THE TRIBULATION SAINTS THAT DIE ARE "RESURRECTED" ONLY AFTER JESUS COMES BACK WITH His Bride. Read Revelation 17:14; 19:7-20. You absolutely don't know what God is Talking about, nor do you even care. Why don't you read the Bible instead of trying to "invent" a new & different Gospel. You say you are going through the Tribulation starting with the 1st Seal in Rev. 6. Well, you probably be killed. What ever you choose.
Thats nice to hear your testimony, I too am blood washed and have been for 10 years. Although, I am confused about the Rapture. I believe there will be one but the WHEN is what I'm confused about.
@Senteami Praise the Lord, for He has redeemed you. The Believers do NOT go through the 7 year Tribulation. This period of time is to fulfill the the decree against Israel, but it also includes Judgements & Wrath from the Lord to all unbelievers. During this time, many will accept Christ as their Savior, but they will probably be beheaded for their rejection of the antichrist, the father of lies, hate, & death. God Bless You
i like what Chuck Missler explain the Church, what he is saying that the Church is not higher than the saints that precedes but it require a certain respect to it, "why r u complaining bout how much i pay the other guy when u have already first agree to your labor. "
lapassion24 1 week ago
Satan loves this kind of deception which leads one right to the second death.
KevinR242 3 weeks ago
Missler is incorrect.
tumordoctor 1 month ago
This guy is dead on. There is no emotion, just logical fact. Those that believe the whole rapture after the tribulation just hope to have a 7 year warning so they can straighten out then. Decide and act now or face the devastation to come. Amen and thank you God for giving me the eyes to see!
aptabceo 1 month ago
@sorens70601 - you are wrong. Worse that that, you are so judgmental. Even worse than that: you are a name caller. A tree is known by its fruit. Matthew 7:16. Your name calling makes you in league with Satan. For Satan is the accuser of the brethern. I have met Chuck Missler, and he may be human, but he is not a deceiver. He's right on.
justaminuto 1 month ago
the second coming CANNOT happen twice!! It would be the THIRD coming...it is NOT two events..the end happens 1 time. Once.
mahughson 1 month ago
I see that all of you understand what Paul tells us about correcting each other in love. Good to see your testimony to GOOD Christian behaviour amongst each other. Your salvation is by the GRACE OF GOD...Period. Someone elses salvation is NOT for you to judge...we are to HUMBLY seek the word of God, and I am seeing neither of you doing that here. SO..please discontinue being a HORRID example of a Christian....thank you.
mahughson 1 month ago
Just a little side note. Morgan, do you know that the Bride of Christ will Judge the World & the Fallen Angels? 1Corinthians 6:2-3. And in Jude 14-16 we're coming BACK WITH Jesus to JUDGE. BTW, the Bride gets "fine white linen" to wear and we also come back riding horses. Revelation 19:7-20 Just trying to help you out, using the BIBLE only. MARANATHA
JesusHoldMyHand1 2 months ago
Hey Morgan - do you know the difference between "Rewards" and "Sword"? Jesus comes WITH Rewards in the Rapture. Revelation 22:12; Colossians 3:24; 2Timothy 4:8 ; 1Peter 5:4. Christ comes at the 2nd Coming WITH a SWORD to KILL His enemes. No Rapture; No Rewards. Those dead Trib Saints only get WHITE ROBES. Revelation 7:13-14. You should start reading the Holy Bible. FOLKS, please read the Scriptures I have given. Morgan refuses to.....therefore, he is a FALSE TEACHER an APOSTATE.
JesusHoldMyHand1 2 months ago
Just a question..........Are you implying because I don't believe in the pre-trib raptured that I'm living in sin and part of the 5 foolish virgins? If you read the context of the parable of the 10 virgins it is trying to convey an attitude of being "READY" and "WATFCHFUL"......
1979jdw 4 months ago
I thank you for your comment regarding the 10 Virgins, it is a perfect parable regarding people who are ready and watchful and the ones who are not. Can you please send me the verses that say we are going to get raptured before the tribulation and also please send me the verses regarding the 2 staged return of Christ. All verses regarding the 2nd coming of Christ speak of cosmic disturbances and a sound of a trumpet. A very loud event, not something secret or silent....
1979jdw 4 months ago
The problem is, Mr Missler is using the Jewish wedding to create his theology of pre-trib rapture. The reality is, you need to use the bible to determine theology, not traditions of men. If you read Mat 24, you will see in the context of Mat 24 his disciples asking him "What are the signs of your coming and the end of the age?" Why didn't Jesus mention anything about the rapture? As a matter of fact, Jesus said in Mat 24:31 That his angels will gather the christians after his appearing..
1979jdw 4 months ago
@1979jdw Mr. Missler is exactly CORRECT!! Read Matthew 25:1-13. 10 Virgins = 10 Christians; Bridegroom = Jesus Christ. The 5 FOOLISH Christians were NOT Ready for the Groom. They were living in sin, not paying any attention to what He Preached to them. Living their lives for themselves and NOT For Him. He Came to get them, they WERE LEFT BEHIND. Door closed on them. No WEDDING OR SUPPER for them; they're going to MISS ALL the Festivies, Recieving their Rewards, Jesus Getting Coronated!
JesusHoldMyHand1 4 months ago
God bless Mr. Missler!
mrtoch777 5 months ago
Shalom
journeymnme 8 months ago
If the pre-T happens GREAT! ....if not, be aware that scripture only says his coming “again” is ONCE for a GROUP out of 14 harpazoes, not 2x. Those that “fall” will all but quote 2Ptr3:4. We all have boo-boos [1Cor11:19a]. Whatever happens (or not): do NOT deny the Lord! Reallayman.webs.com check out the “more” section for some of the holes in the swiss-cheese pre-t thinking. Simple & LITERAL interpretation works.
reallayman011 8 months ago
If 7 years of tribulation have to precede the coming of Christ, then one at least knows when Christ is coming back, but according to the Bible, no man knows not even the angels in heaven... that is somewhat contradictory.
valleart 10 months ago
@valleart No one knows when the Rapture is going to happen. It can be at any time. However, they will know when the 2nd Coming is going to happen. Almost to the day. Read Daniel 12:11-12. The 2 Witnesses preach the Gospel for 1,260 days (42 months) then they're taken to Heaven (raptured in front of their enemies). The 144,000 Jew who preach the Gospel (part of the remnant) are also taken to Heaven in Rev. 14. The rest of the "remnant" are to be protected by God until He returns Rev. 12
JesusHoldMyHand1 10 months ago
@valleart No dude because if you payed attention to the video you would have heard him say it's 2 seperate events.
jelleepit 8 months ago
The Two Events screen did not have any scriptural references... I have yet to find a 2 stage coming in the Bible.
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(KJV) Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
tumordoctor 11 months ago
By the way, JHMH, with you regard to adding to Revelation 19:7-10 that it lasts 1-2 years (without Scriptural support):
tumordoctor 11 months ago
JHMH, first of all, you're assuming that we come back with the Lord. The Lord only said that He comes back with His angels (Matthew 25:31). Secondly, you're unable to show any evidence of a wedding or marriage supper in Heaven. You think pretending that there are 1-2 years between Rev 19:7-11 makes it more believable, but it boils down to lack of Scriptural evidence. Thirdly, angels wear white (Rev 15:6). Fourthly, you didn't answer my other questions.
tumordoctor 11 months ago
JHMH, where is "onward Christian soldiers" in the Bible? Also, where is the church ever called God's "army"? Lastly, quote the verse you believe describes an actual wedding supper or wedding in Heaven.
tumordoctor 11 months ago
@tumordoctor In Revelation 19:7-9. You think the "Wedding supper of the Lamb" takes place amongst the dead of the earth after we come back with Christ?? There's probably a period of a year or two between Revelation 19:9 & Rev. 19:11 when Christ comes back WITH us, wearing "many Crowns", the ones we lay at His feet in Revelation 4:9-11. We are wearing the same clothing in Revelation 19:14 as in Rev. 19:7-8
JesusHoldMyHand1 11 months ago
JHMH,
tumordoctor 11 months ago
2)There is no description of any wedding or marriage supper happening in Heaven prior to the Lord's return. Only the announcement in Revelation 19:6-10. If you have evidence to the contrary, post chapter and verses.
tumordoctor 1 year ago
@tumordoctor We are the "Onward Christian Soldiers". Christ NEVER called His Angels an "army". The Wedding supper of the Lamb takes place right before Christ comes back to Earth, then WE come back WITH Him Rev. 17:14.
JesusHoldMyHand1 11 months ago
JHMH, 1)The "armies" are indeed His angels. I'll believe the Lord: (KJV) Matthew 25:31- "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy ANGELS with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory And Paul: (KJV) 2 Thessalonians 1:7- "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty ANGELS,"
tumordoctor 1 year ago
JHMH,
tumordoctor 1 year ago
Just like exodus 12 God said kill a lamb put the blood on the door posts an top post , an death will pass over you as long as your under the blood,eat quickly with your shoes on ,staff in hand, and took them out in one day.Now a days, God will take us out in one day an the only place thats safe is under the blood of Jesus Christ. Thank you JESUS
michael1956able 1 year ago
KJV) Revelation 15:6- "And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles."
tumordoctor 1 year ago
The "armies" are His angels. He told us who He comes back with. No need for anyone to put words into His mouth. By the way, angels wear white:
tumordoctor 1 year ago
@tumordoctor His armies are NOT angels. They are the Born-Again Christians who were Rapture BEFORE the Tribulation Period. See the many Crowns He is wearing? They are the Crowns we lay at His feet. We are His Bride, Body, Saints, Holy Ones, Church. We've receive our Crowns, watched the Coronation of Christ, go to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, then come back WITH Jesus at His 2nd Coming. In Rev. 19:7-10 we are getting ready to come back. We rule & reign with Christ for 1,000 from Jerusalem
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 year ago
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KJV) 2 Thessalonians 1:7- "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his MIGHTY ANGELS, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"
tumordoctor 1 year ago
2007DNT, okay, I'm "getting back to you". In Matthew 25:31, the Lord clearly says who He comes back with: (KJV) Matthew 25:31- "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the HOLY ANGELS with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:" Paul reiterated this:
tumordoctor 1 year ago
@Jesusholdmyhand,
1)The 24 elders don't even include themselves as being among the redeemed when they sing the new song in Rev 5:10 in the original manuscripts. The KJV altered it to 1st person plural.
2)Scripture doesn't say that we're taken to Heaven after we meet Him in the air.
3)There is no description of a wedding or marriage supper in Heaven. Only the announcement right before the Lord returns.
4)The Lord only said that He comes back with His angels (Matthew 25:31).
tumordoctor 1 year ago
@tumordoctor Try reading Revelation 19 and then get back to me...
2007DNT 1 year ago
The pretrib rapture=a terribly false teaching. The Lord said that there would be only ONE resurrection of believers "at the last day". A fact which Paul reiterated in 1 Cor 15:22-24.
tumordoctor 1 year ago
@tumordoctor See the 24 elders in Revelation 4:1-5 They have their crowns. No one gets a crown until all Believers on earth at that specific time are in Heaven. We get our crowns & rewards, watch the Coronation of Christ, go to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb then come back WITH Christ at His 2nd Coming when He is wearing MANY crowns. What you need to do is READ the Bible verse by verse, in order, instead of jumping around & listening to others who don't read the Bible either.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 year ago
Wow!
beebop46n2 1 year ago
the holy spirit is just completely flowing from this guy
TangerineGroovin 1 year ago 2
yup
daniel62kwlwu 1 year ago
@ lizazoon it was said in the old testament that Jesus would be betrayed or sold for thirty pieces of silver. Many years later he was actually betrayed by Judas Iscariot for exactly 30 pieces of silver. Jesus was captured that night. That doesn't sound very broad to me! Sounds like the prophets were right on the money
josephearl2 1 year ago
"88 reasons for 1988"... I was born in 1988, haha. I'm sure it will happen to some infants, being Raptured with their Christian parents, without really having to live on Earth. I wonder, though, if only infants of Christian parents (baptized) will be Raptured? It seems that way to me.
Itugen88 1 year ago
One point I am confused on. If the "dead" in Christ will rise first, then we which are alive shall be changed....Why will the OT Saints be raised later at the Second coming????
ljackso 1 year ago
The rapture is nonsense.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon when it happens will you eat your words?
muktuklou 1 year ago
@muktuklou Set a date, a year and if it doesn`t happen will you apologize ?
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Acts 1 6So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" 7He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.
muktuklou 1 year ago
@muktuklou ; Of course you can`t set a date, not even a decade..This bullshit has been going on for 2.000 years and people still believe this nonsense.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon<<<<------- you need to do your homework. The bible is the only ancient Holy book that has 100 % of it's prophesies fulfilled.(except the end time ones that are coming to pass in our lifetime) That fact alone should open your eyes to the truth of It being God's true word.
The Spiritually blind ignore this amazing fact.
Bless you in your search
muktuklou 1 year ago
@muktuklou Any bible prediction that seems to be fulfilled is coincidence, or the prophecy is so vague, that sooner or later an event that could be interpreted to fulfill the prophecy ,was doomed to happen. Not a single prophecy gives EXACT IRREFUTABLE data.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Like Psalm 22: 16 Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet. 18 They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.
Fulfilled in Luke 23: 33When they came to the place called the Skull, there they crucified him, along with the criminals—. 34Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
study dude
muktuklou 1 year ago
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@muktuklou-- 16 Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet.
18 They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing-- This was an easy prediction to make. The romans crucified many and the soldiers divided the clothing. And where are the dogs ?
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Besides the prophecies about Jesus were so OBVIOUS(LOL) that those for whom the prophecy was intended, didn`t even recognise him as the Messiah. And even 2.000 years later, knowing all the prophecies, they still don`t say: Oh my god we made a mistake. That`s how all bible prophecies are. VAGUE,LACKING EXACT IRREFUTABLE data.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon "The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but for everyone to come to repentence." 2Peter 3:9 "A day with the Lord is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day." 2Peter 3:8
He is still giving you time to go to Him. Christ can return at any time for "His Own".
One day He will. He is God Almighty, knows the heart of every man, woman & child. He loves you.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 year ago
revlooshin, you crack me up - lol. This is part 5 out of what?......12?
You don't agree with the teaching, yet here you are sitting here watching them.
I find that odd. - bob
zippythepinhed 1 year ago
American Standard Version:
and my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the peoples; and as one gathereth eggs that are forsaken, have I gathered all the earth: and there was none that moved the wing, or that opened the mouth, or chirped.
Isaiah 10:14
carpenter0909 2 years ago
i usually enjoy chuck but he is as far out as a light house on this rapture nonsense. this originated in approx 1830 when a young scottish girl named margaret mcdonald claimed via extra biblical revelation that there would be a secret rapture. margaret was also spoke in ecstatic tongues and did ghost writing (not exactly reliable) this was picked up by edward irving and then john nelson darby and we have tim la haye and the left behind fiction. chuck do your homework.
FREECHEESECOMPANY 2 years ago
he just said in part 2 (or 3) that the great tribulation is the wrath of God upon the earth, now he's saying that after the rapture the earth is NOT judged. contradiction! what about the 7 seals, trumps and vials? the bible never, ever says anywhere that translated saints go to heaven before the 2nd coming. please show me that. jesus gives us signs to know when his coming is near, but he clearly says no one knows the day or hour. this is why his coming is like a thief in the night.
revlooshin 2 years ago
he says that during the rapture of the church he comes FOR his own, but during the 2nd coming he comes WITH his own. this is not true at all. look at the supposed rapture passage of 1 thess. 4:13-18; he comes 'for' AND 'with' his own; "we shall be caught up in the clouds TOGETHER WITH THEM to meet the lord in the air." in rev. 19-20 we also see him coming WITH his own (the armies of heaven) and FOR his own (the first resurrection, rev 20:5-6).
revlooshin 2 years ago
these different passages are referring to the same single event. some passages give more information than others. some passages look at the event from different perspectives than others, and people take the differences and make two different comings out of them. this is clearly what has happened. the bible is a progressive revelation. if we use the proper principles of hermeneutics and put them all together we'll easily see that its all one event, not two. i humbly disagree with missler.
revlooshin 2 years ago
when you think about it his PROOF for the rapture is based on the ASSUMPTION of a rapture. neither jesus, nor his apostles, ever said that he would come twice more, seven years apart. nor did he say that his return would be a two-staged event. so where is his concrete basis for believing this doctrine?
revlooshin 2 years ago
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FileMakerGuy 2 years ago
people its not to late to be saved! in romans ch10 vers 9-11
that if you confess with your mouth the lord jesus and believe in your heart that god raised him from the dead, you will be saved! for with the heart one believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. in acts ch 2 vers 38
then peter said to them repent ,and let every one of you be baptized in the name of jesus christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the holy spirit !
danny19691969 2 years ago 4
the day shall declare it
k0be55 2 years ago
I can't understand why so many Christians expect to go through the Tribulation, along with God haters, unbelievers and idolaters! Plus the Rapture is for any one who comes to believe in Jesus Christ and who believes Jesus will come back for what the Bible calls "His bride"! I too used to be a God-hater and an idolater, but now thanks be to God I am reconciled to God through Jesus Christ' blood, mercy and forgiveness!
Senteami 2 years ago 20
Praise the Lord :D
Cultureman11 2 years ago 2
Good for you son, glory to God for opening your eyes to the truth of his son Jesus Christ, the savior of men.
amlach1 2 years ago 3
You know why? Because every person is filled to the brim with pride and thinks that no matter what, they are right. I t really ticks me off because I have spent 10 years of my life confused beyond belief about several issues. But thank the Lord for Mr. Missler among others. Believe it or not, I have learned more from you tube than I have from church. And I think thats pretty sad.
MaliceDren 2 years ago 27
"I have learned more from you tube than I have from church. And I think thats pretty sad."
the church building is not the church, the church is you and i. where 2 or more are gathered in HIS name. think small groups, like missler said 6 to 10. this is what i have been doing for the last year, small group. discard all denominational traditions and beliefs and study the scriptures with an open mind and let the HOLY SPIRIT be your teacher. IMHO
evcrawfish 2 years ago 2
I agree completely. Among truth there are many lies and you tube is also filled with them. I guess Im just saying that if it was not for you tube, I would never have seen half of the videos I have. These videos provoke thought and it makes for a very fun day to search the Word for verification of what you here.
MaliceDren 2 years ago
like missler says acts 17:11
maranatha
evcrawfish 2 years ago
@MaliceDren Your spot on center mass with ur essements of the present Ecclessia of the Church Of Today (laoidacian). Surely read Malachi:3 15-18 & Malachi:4 for another look to the HarpaZo its the last book in the Talmud (OT) . Maranatha
Wildcelt0 1 year ago
@MaliceDren ...Missler is teaching Heresy, and promoting the Darby/ Irving speculative nonsense, that will be totalyy discredited in my upcoming book in January.
Just a cursory overview of the scriptures, makes it clear, that the "pre-trib theory" is fictitious fabrication. Acts 3:22-23 says Christ "must remain in Heaven" until..."the restitution of All things".(that is the Millenium) The "Proof text" of 1.Cor.15:50-54,(yes verse 54, which is both part of text and context) says that "Death"..
sorens70601 2 months ago
....will "be abolished" at that time. The only time death is abolished according to the scriptures, is five monthe before the "end of the seven year "covenant week".(or five months before the end of the last half of the Tribulation of 1260 days, Rev.9:6) Besides, 1.Thess.4:15-17, in the Greek, says "We the Living , the ones SURVIVING."
The words "surviving"(in verses 15, and 17) posits a tribulational "time-line", AKA Mt.24.
Missler obviously does Not read Greek. Besides, He is rumored...
sorens70601 2 months ago
...to be a member of the 'masonic Lodge'. You Cannot Be a Christian, and be a Mason. Those two systems are 'mutually exclusive' of each other !! one being of God, the other, of Lucifer, (or Satan, as he is better known) (Read Ezekiel Chapter 8, in the KJV)
Missler is a false teacher on this topic of the Resurrection, as my upcoming book will prove. It is sad that he manages to deceive so many with this Darby /Irving speculative
nonsense. I have challenged Him to debate, but No response !!!
sorens70601 2 months ago
@sorens70601 I'm quite sure your upcoming book will be as misinformed & as unChristian as you are. I'm sure you'll do the unbelievers proud. You have to be the most ungodly person I've ever posted to for almost 2 years. You are unskilled, unknowledgable & untruthful as any Pharisee would be. You are using YouTube as your own free "advertising" site and you are a DENIER of the Word of God. You will be judged, harshly I would say, by the Creator, which you seem to abhor. Go Away
JesusHoldMyHand1 2 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ...You are the most disgracefull rotten person I have ever had the displeasure to respond to. Your lack of biblcal knowledge, disrespect arrogance and downright anti Christly behaviour, has "hung you out" time and again as to the condescending attitude you possess. As for my book, within weeks of its appearance, you will see all these false "pre-trib Guru's" running for cover, or they will convert and become true Christians.
sorens70601 2 months ago
@sorens70601 It is you that is ungrateful and lack knowledge & Godly Bible Study. You should use self control, much of which you're lacking. Maybe you'll be "resurrected" AFTER Jesus comes back at His 2nd Coming. Revelation 20:4-6. But I have a feeling you won't be resurrected until Revelation 20:11-15 when you stand before God with the rest of dead non-Christians. COME SOON, LORD.
JesusHoldMyHand1 2 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ...There you go again, shooting off your vile mouth with a STUPID and IDIOTIC comment. Can anyone blame me for calling you a MORON !!! I think Not !!!!
sorens70601 2 months ago
@sorens70601 There you go - denying God's Word again. ALL THE TRIBULATION SAINTS THAT DIE ARE "RESURRECTED" ONLY AFTER JESUS COMES BACK WITH His Bride. Read Revelation 17:14; 19:7-20. You absolutely don't know what God is Talking about, nor do you even care. Why don't you read the Bible instead of trying to "invent" a new & different Gospel. You say you are going through the Tribulation starting with the 1st Seal in Rev. 6. Well, you probably be killed. What ever you choose.
JesusHoldMyHand1 2 months ago
Thats nice to hear your testimony, I too am blood washed and have been for 10 years. Although, I am confused about the Rapture. I believe there will be one but the WHEN is what I'm confused about.
CrackerJayherber 2 years ago 2
WATCH AND PRAY FOR THE HOUR IS NEAR
RONIDC1979 2 years ago
@Senteami Praise the Lord, for He has redeemed you. The Believers do NOT go through the 7 year Tribulation. This period of time is to fulfill the the decree against Israel, but it also includes Judgements & Wrath from the Lord to all unbelievers. During this time, many will accept Christ as their Savior, but they will probably be beheaded for their rejection of the antichrist, the father of lies, hate, & death. God Bless You
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 year ago
@Senteami ... nevertheless how much evidence there seems to be, Chuck said, and I agree, we need to be ready no matter when the Lord comes!
mnhzmazingrace 1 year ago