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  • I love that Jean used, basically, the Sphinx argument, "When you can balance a tack hammer on your head, your will head off your foes with a balanced attack." Brilliant... she wins.

  • Deepak should be a stand up comedian instead :

    "he's getting into the woo woo now"

    "I want to address that brain-thing that you just said"

    lmfao....

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  • Jean and Deepak are idiots. They don't deserve to sit on the same stage with Harris and Shermer.

  • Deepak studied physics, chemistry, biology, studied medicine, neuro-endocrinology but forgot to take a damn Logic class. Someone who has to pull out their credentials to make it appear their views on mysteries and non-mysteries has validity, is a defeated opponent.

  • DEEPAK, SHUT UP FOR A SECOND, OH MY GOD.

  • What the feck is she on about? My eyes literally crossed?

  • Yes guys, Jean is a moron. But let's not forget the moderator who is a piece of shit and who interrupts Michael Shermer to make a fool of himself. Mr Moderator if you are so dumb then shut your fucking mouth and don't interrupt Shermer while he's explaining things.

  • Jean Houston is such a moron that even Chopra must be thinking "OMG, what a boat anchor I've got on my side..."

  • @huss03 ... yeah, when he talks about everything being connected I am sure he would love to sever Jean. That being said, they are almost certainly kindred spirits, each completely unable to substantiate a single vowel.

  • Thank you for posting this, AtheistMediaBlog.

  • Skip Jean links: Starts @ 4:29 Ends @ 6:52

  • I'm surprised he did not play the race card.

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  • this is like four blind men trying to explain an elephant by touching it

  • There's something about Jean that I really like, but she has no place in this debate.

  • Sam runs this

  • Unmitigated and impenetrable nonsense from the two speakers in favor of religion. I actually prefer the fundamentalists to these New Age shills with their nebulous and utterly vacuous bullshit.

  • Oh, good. Jean's speaking. I haven't cringed in ten minutes.

  • The look on Michael's face when Jean starts to speak is priceless :L

  • Notice that deepak is the only one getting angry.... so much for him meditating ... i think he has confused meditation with masturbation ...

  • @OOhhhYeahh100 hha i laughed so hard when i read your comment. deepak is such a clown

  • @diekontrolleure Yea, and those glasses don't help much :-)

  • Deepak got his church voice out there haha

  • go mike deepak is so full of shit his breath stinks

  • wauw.. what a great debate that was incoming at 4:29 ... then Jean gets to speak -.-'

  • @aravom111 LOL! So true.

  • new age bullshit at the ultimate level. holy mother of jesus...

  • New ages hippy shit for the FAIL.

  • Deepak needs to settle down. He is acting very unprofessional

  • What the hell does the shit Jean is spewing have to do with God? Both her and Deepak are making no sense at all.

  • I dont whats worse, Deepaks "Woo Woo" or Sams unprecedented level of arrogance?

    Cant stand the lot of 'em

  • They've put up 2 great sceptics against an educated yet out of her league lady and Deepak, the nut who spews philosophical nonsense until one of his hundreds of points makes sense. I can't enjoy a debate like this because its so clearly one sided.

  • LOL he says "a bunch of scientific words sentenced up together MEAN NOTHING".. but HIS explanation of dumb - "we are just not connected.. we JUST ARE NOT" is a viable explanation.. VERY SCIENTIFIC INDEED:) lol

  • Thumbs up if you spotted the two douchebags at stage right.

  • like if you skipped past every time jean opens her goddamned mouth.

  • Jean is a typical know it all annoying grandma

  • jean skip link: she starts at 4:45 and her mouth stops making sounds at 6:50. But then you get a different kind of babble...

  • DeepThroat Choke-ra

  • @shieldsff I am guessing they are too busy worship their cult leaders in their little cult of science to hear anything you said.

  • @sonykroket Fuck you you scumbag troll sack of shit.

  • @tubebooboob

    And again you havent made it a reply.

    All you stinking reli-schizos are a bunch of lying cheating maggots. Throw yourself off a cliff if you want to meet your imaginary idiotic maker so bad.

    The world would be a better place without you parasites of mankind

  • @sonykroket and you wonder why christians think bad of atheists? you need an atttitude adjustement buddy, you're not going to change people's minds by being a douche.

  • @HayteStreet

    I really dont give a fuck what a bunch of biblemaggots think, if they can think at all. Atheism gets smeared by these assholes, no matter how nice we/they are so they can suck my salty balls

    Im not here to change peoples minds, im here to make fun of worshipping preaching superstitious dumbasses

    Why, are you one? Or are you some policor selective atheistwannabe?

  • @HayteStreet we atheists insult people of religion (especially the Big 3) because of the horrors they have inflicted on man-kind.

    so you don't have the right to say that atheists have bad manners unless it is not related to religions' past histories of violence.

  • @OyonTheAdept typical automoton trying to rationalize thier lowlife behavior. Have you ever heard of Stalin? Yeah, he was a really nice guy, who headed a nice atheist state that only killed tens of millions of people (more than Hitler!)... I tell you he was a nice guy, not violent at all.

  • @tubebooboob dude, stalin created sets of doctrines that targeted religion.

    atheism isn't a set of doctrines. it's just a viewpoint on life. nothing else.

    there's nothing in atheism that commands someone to do good things. nor are there any things that tell someone to do evil deeds. it is just a viewpoint.

    that is why you can't argue that atheism was responsible for Stalin's murder rampage.

  • @OyonTheAdept sounds like rationalization. You might have a valid point, however there are many people who are examples that contradict what you said. You dont have to be a genius to see a correlation... I think you are trying too hard to fit things into your idealistic perspective.

  • @sonykroket I dont give a fuck what you think. You are a liar, a scumbag, a true lowlife. You are SO stupid you keep trying to have this atheist vs religious person arguement with me but I am not religious or an atheist you stupid fucking piece of shit. Why dont you go kill yourself already, you'd be doing the world a favor.

  • @tubebooboob

    Hey there maggot. I guess we will never get rid of your spamming reli-butt. How the fuck can you not be religious or an atheist at the same time.

    It doesnt really matter anyway, you're just a dymbass posting crap all the time

  • @sonykroket Wow, your THAT stupid huh. Im unsuprised. I think you need to talk a psychiatrist because you need some medication. Seriously.

    Why do you keep commenting on my posts, I guess you love me. You want it in your butt or in your mouth? Youre getting neither; probably why you are so mad... You havent gotten laid for a LONG time... and you probably have a small penis and penis envy. Loser, you are the spammer (psychological projection), I actually contribute to the discussion.

  • Funny thing. It actually made sense to me and I almost failed Physics in high school.

  • Painful!!!

    

  • Uh oh, Chopra is ranting again...

  • 240,000 people go to Hell every day. That's 158 people a minute. You can line up all the people who went to Hell in the last 10 years and have them all hold hands – if they hadn’t been chewed off by demons.

  • The scientists just found that out a few years ago. God's people knew it all along. If those idiots would stop letting the Devil do all the thinking for them and turn to God's word, they'd find what they're looking for. Salvation. Freedom from Satan's distractions. Distractions like books, universities, science, biology, astronomy..

  • OH SNAP!! DEEPAK GOT CALLED OUT!!!!

  • the first time i watched this i laughed at loud at everything jean houston said and criticized her as a dunderhead , it was all meaningless jibberish to me. now after a profound realization and total transformation of the way i look at thing, i understand every thing she said, i realize now the deeper meaning she is speaking about and how wrong i was and how much wiser she is than harris and shermer. where once i favored and revered them, now they seem ignorant childish and dogmatic.

  • The enlightened possess understanding

    So profound they can not be understood

    the sage

    is so wise,

    why does he appear so dumb

    amongst those renowned for cleverness?

  • @MarcusTheReverent It is shermer/harris trying to look cool for their little friends at school, in their little popularity contest mindsets... Rather smarmy at times. Reminds me of middle schoolers. I would give them a bit more credit if they werent so childish..

  • I'm just not finding Jean Houston's contribution to this discussion very useful or refreshing, with due respect I don't think she is qualified to be on the panel for this debate.

  • I love how sonykrockets idiotic rambling drowned out all the other Atheist cheerleaders. You must really need some attention to respond to EVERYONE'S comments( 3 of mine). Even more astonishing is that you haven't said a single word that has any meaning at all. We haven't figured out how to heal cancer, we can only eradicate it. Then again, there are some new-age breakthroughs..maybe I can meditate you out of existence...

  • @sonykroket Dang are you STILL talking? Stfu already.

  • @tubebooboob

    Make it a reply next time, chickenshit reli-weasel

    I saw your poor excuse of a response to my comment by accident

    Fuckin lying cheating maggot

  • @sonykroket How about go fuck yourself and never tell me what to do you chickenshit cheating maggot fuckass weasel. Quit spamming and trolling. Get a life and stop making up lies on youtube. Come out of the closet already and maybe you wont be so angry.

  • @tubebooboob

    Haha, copying my style isnt really working for ya now, is it?

    With every comment you demonstrate what a clown you are that has no good response whatsoever. Why don't you go spam your moms basement, maybe you'll look less of a total douchebag all the time

    You silly muppet

  • @sonykroket You wish I were copying your style. I just want to piss you off at this point. Your comments are completely nonsensical. Whereas my comments make sense. Funny you talk about looking like a total douche bag, if it hasnt gotten through your thick skull yet, you are the one who looks like a douchebag every time you comment. What, youre trying to make coherent sentences now? I know you admire my ability to make coherent sentences. You need some haterade, you seem like your getting tired.

  • @tubebooboob

    It's very simple

    You're a superstitious dorkie, whether a deepak-groupie or some other silly fairytale-fanboy.

    And i'm the guy who laughs at you and dipshits like you.

    It's simple, you see

  • @sonykroket Wrong. You are just a loser that needs to get a life quite being full of crap, and quit being a bully. Youre a coward covering up his insecurities with obnoxiousness.

  • @tubebooboob

    You can keep repeating the same BS over and over, it doesn't change the fact you're a superstitious muppet that spams youtube with it's ignorant droppings/comments

    Don't like being adressed? Fine, STFU then

    Silly douchebag

  • @sonykroket Little boy, don't cry. I understand little children like you don't always understand that they are being hypocrites. You can stop whining already though... nobody wants to hear your whining.

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  • @tubebooboob “In fact, "atheism" is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a "non-astrologer" or a "non-alchemist." We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.” Sam Harris

  • @9058588583 The first two sentences are false. The third is just absurd. The fourth and last sentence is clever and presumptuous BS. To use of absolute terms should be a hint as to that lack of accuracy, i.e. the use of the terms "nothing" and "ever" are examples. Sam Harris is a confident guy, but so are con men.

  • @tubebooboob you make lists of everything that you are not? you are a non-astronaut, a non-somalian, and a non-intellect? there aren't words for these.

    There are Atheists that believe in ghosts and conspiracy theories (zeitgeist and jesse ventura), this just shows the realms of belief that the human brain is very complex, and "Smart people believe in dumb things, they are better at rationalizing them in smart ways." -shermer

  • @kelbykross1 Do you realize that reiterating the same nonsense in an even less coherent form than before isn't helping? Why are you talking about lists? Those are rhetorical questions. It seems you have rejected your religion; you should reject Harris and Shermer... or are they your new religion?

  • @tubebooboob i have never had a religion. I never made any assumptions. I learn their viewpoints, and have found that within the basis of other sciences and scientists working to show how the world works, their theories and the theories of those in similar studies all have their individual merit.

    I don't worship them more than a average person worships at the alter of their favorite sports team.

    I am interested in learning about belief systems, and what they have to offer. I guess i am a fan.

  • @kelbykross1 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Is the "atheistmedia(blog)" controlling your mind?

  • You can really see the ego on deepok.

  • @@Kratos89115

    BTW fuckface, im not the one spewing scientific nonsense so i dont have to explain anything. Also, i dont need anyones approval so you can shove your crap up your own superstitious (dumb)ass

    You on the other hand......

  • @sonykroket I'm pretty sure Deepak doesn't play God of War, dumbass. How about, instead of ranting unintelligible bullshit, you come up with something scientifically literate to say...or at least point out why I sound like a "scientific illiterate". Then I would be more than happy to embarrass the shit out of you. You're a waste of typing, even the atheist don't like you...

  • @Kratos89115

    I really dont give a shit what you think or want or who likes me. Im only here to make fun of superstitious dorkies like you

    Because you're a dorkie and you believe in stupid shit

    See? very simple

  • @sonykroket Your begging for attention is almost appaling as your complete and utter stupidity. Nobody likes you and nobody wants you here. Get a life.

  • How after watching this can you defend atheism? Deepak bashers answer his question: Who is the observer? If your scientific mind is just billions of neurons firing interpretations of what it has experienced or "knows", then there was no creation. Nothing "new" ever exist, just interpretations of what is already here. That means that atheist have proven that they are observing the infinite, or "recreating" what's already here( ie. conservation of..)This infinite is "God". The rest is semantics.

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  • @Kratos89115

    Deepkak, is that you?

    Shut up, dumbass

    Stop sounding like a scientific illiterate

  • @Kratos89115 shiva i recognize you :P

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  • Jean: "well, reality is a bitch but i just need a fairytale to be happy and feel special"

    Deepkak: "I do not have any knowledge but i have some irrelevant degrees so that should say i won any debate in a quantum conscious nonlocality"

    Die, maggots

  • Spooky physics!?!? That is so awesome! Love that Sam Harris!

  • JEAN FOR PRESIDENT!!

    Shes so sexy and coherent, and she makes so much sense when she speaks.

    The gods are jelous

  • @sylviabombs15 HAHAH! she actually said "The selfing game is something the infinity game does for fun" That doesn't even feign coherence. She is completely off topic. it's almost as if she isn't even listening. She is probably travelling on some astral plain or tripping on mescaline, who knows. The gods are smacking their foreheads in shame that these buffoons represent them. I'd bet the gods would rather have no one believe in them than let these idiots spew such drivel. ps There are no gods

  • @FreethinkingFun Fail. Your sarcasm meter is broken

  • @FreethinkingFun I was gonna go on this rant on my own, then your comment caught my eye so I figured, what the hell, might as well make it @ someone. My sarcasm meter was admittedly compromised.

  • There simply is no factual (based on scientific evindence) reason to rule out the possibility of macroscopic non-locality...THIS IS A FACT! Shermer is bullshitting and does not know what he talking about...probably the man knows even less about QM than Chopra does.

  • @tmapere

    exactly, and this comes from a physics student.

    sam is even worse

    "im not making an ad homminem " but he does not adress his argument , only says deprak is not fit enough..

    i mean this comes from a man that writes books about religion and does not know shit about it...

    " i would not dare to come to call tech and preach student about physics " but he does preach about Deuteronomy while taking it out of context.

    what a douche

    they resent because deprak walked on their "holy ground"

  • @niinja2 You are quite right about sam.. I kind of appreciated the man in spite of the fact that I do not share his views on religion, because to me he has seemed intellectually honest enough. But here the guy is making idiotical metaphysical statements...as if the idea that consciousness is merely a product of the brain and nothing more were some scientific fact. Has he heard about Chalmers´ arguments eg? He does not even get the mind/consciousness distinction! what a believer...

  • @tmapere

    he does make a few points , and he does make some good arguments , but i get very upset when HE tells someone that this someone is not educated enough even though sam harris made his name on popular books from the fields he is not educated in.

  • @niinja2

    He knows more about religion than the religious but then again the religious never know shit abut what they believe

  • @tmapere

    but to be honnest the other side has alot of "woo woo"

  • @tmapere

    You're an idiot

  • @sonykroket mmm...I happen to know a lot more about QM than Shermer-- and you -- , so if that makes you an idiot, then, for sure . lol with best regards !

  • @tmapere

    I dont give a shit what you know.

    If you come with crap like Mike Shermer bullshitting then its obvious you have a hidden agenda

    Youre probably a superstitious dumbass

  • @sonykrokeso Michael Shermer is your God/propher, for no fact based argument showing he does not know what he is talking about (not gerally but regarding QM and non-locality) does not convince you he is bullshitting on the topic? you know a nothing about QM and only have blind faith this "scinetific" guy knows. Oh, sounds so like creationists in their relationship theory of evolution! lol

  • @tmapere

    I know fuckos like you can only think in terms of prophets or gods. But the problem is, theres a growing group of people who dont view life the same way as you superstitious maggots do.

    Get ready to deal with them, its called scepticism in todays reality. I dont know WTF youre yapping about but i assume youre either a relimuppet or a Deepagaga-groupie.

    In both cases youre an idiot

  • @sonykroket you have no idea how i view things. I only pointed out Shermer was bullshitting about QM and this makes you angry for you he is an Authority, whose sayings are not under critical consderations. Chpra´s argumentation is also pseudoscuientific. A true skeptic knows the topic he is speaking of. i can see you have not understood a single scientific theory so for you it is a matter of faith, not of understanding. if you have any intelligence, which I doubt, go and study a little, kid.

  • @sonykroket "I dont give a shit what you know." this statement quite tells everything about you: you don´t give a shit about knowledge and facts. this is typical of religious digmatic and idiots and has nothing to do with skepticism. and also your troll-like style is typical for idiots who can´t give rational argumments and start screamming instead. best regards.

  • @tmapere

    Ah i get it, you try to link what i do to what reli-muppets do.

    Nice try but no cigar, dumbass

    So why are you a superstitious clown?

  • What Shermer is saying about nonlocality -- that it occurs only on particle level and that this is A FACT -- is simply false!! The man does not know a thing about QM! In reality, we simply DO NOT KNOW! There are possible interpertations of QM that state that classical reality consists of...quantum states. The guy is doing the same he is accusing Deepak of doing: packing his metaphsyical faith with scientific "facts". What an Hypocrat of a "sceptic"...shame on the man spreading his woo woo.

  • y the heck these two idiots give so much time & sam and michael are not given same amount of time?????this fool continuesly interrupting sam & sherman and arrogantly shouting.. wtf..!! this is not a debate... even then, sam and sherman totally destroyed these fools.

  • sam & sherman rules.

  • @FixtaFernback It is spelled "Deepak."

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  • And only Deepok would applaud his own words

  • Deepok and Jean are children. Shermer and Harris are adults.

  • @FixtaFernback Micheal and Sam are children. Chopra and Houston are adults.

  • @tubebooboob Look at that wise response! Wowee! Okay, how about this: Chopra, Houston, Michael and Sam are all adults, and you're the child. You have no argument for your point so you resort to ad hominem attacks.

  • Shermer and Harris are such boring, lame, narrow minded people, who offer no answer to the great questions, yet hypocritically ridicule people who at least have the balls and the intelligence to try. I think they are just jealous, so they have become thought oppressors.

  • @circusOFprecision

    Your trolling

  • @Killer0fTheSun

    No, I'm debating. You are trolling.

  • @circusOFprecision

    Then your a fucking retard.

  • @circusOFprecision Definitely, they are just envious. They need Buddha.

  • SHUT UP GENE!

  • This is hilarious. Poor Sam.

  • I am tired hearing this poor fool of Chopra, always talking and talking with no substance, calling others arrogant, when he just keeps claiming nonsense all the time. Does he really believe he is a deep thinker?

  • Chopra, SHUT THE FUCK UP, IT ISN'T YOUR TURN TO TALK! Jeezuz titty christ, a five year old has better manners than you.

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  • Chopra is such a fraud

  • @simondecroft That's 'spiritual' people for you.

  • the only conclusion i can make is that deepak is clearly King Julien XIII from madagascar. the extravagant spectacles he is sporting do not help his case.

  • Sam Harris & Michael Shermer presidential ticket in 2012!

  • the moderator should lose his job for letting that bat-shit woman interrupt sam harris

  • Jean is tripping over double speak, COMPLETELY meaningless. Sad for those who believe in god and religion to have these two represent their cause here as I am sure there HAS to be better choices out there. But...Deepak proposed the challenge, and HE picked Jean...hahahaha

  • what the hell is this woman blathering on about?

  • Hahaha everyone should pause at 5:32; the look on Shermer's face perfectly encapsulates how I expect most viewers (and myself) feel while listening to this woman.

  • The instant Harris said "language games," I was won over.

  • Deepak is a quotemining preaching fuckfart

  • Michael Shermer throws up in his mouth at 5:30 because he has to sit on the same panel as this nonsense spewing woman.

  • Harris is like a God among men in this debate. No pun intended.

  • What the hell is this lady talking about? I am all for poetry, metaphor, and metaphysics, but you still have to be coherent in pursuit of them.

  • I hate how we have to give equal weight and equal time to such unequal intellects.

  • This whole debate consists of Harris and Shermer explaining how Chopra and Houston are wrong and then Chopra and Houston tieing themselves in even bigger knots. Easy win for the skeptics.

  • Harris is right that Chopra should be embarrassed speaking about theoretical physics to a group like they had assembled that night. However, that lack of specialized study (hopefully a Ph.D. in the field) never stopped Harris from writing about religion or philosophy like a specialist. He writes about Islam in a way that is appallingly simplistic and gets into philosophical arguments that would embarrass a first-year undergraduate.

  • @Iconoclaster1 That is not remotely the same thing. Physics is an exact science and while theoretical physics does involve in dealing with not proven phenomena, theoretical physicists still abide by the proven laws. Chopra tries to portray as if he himself understands physics at the highest level possible, with humanity's current knowledge, while covering up the unknown parts with his own definition of a god.

  • @CrazyEasternEuropean You are kidding me, right? You mean to say that because Harris is a “lover of wisdom” he’s qualified to make technical philosophical arguments (as he has about metaethics)? If so then, using your own appeal to the etymology of a subject, why can’t Chopra claim to be a physicist because he likes heat, light and radiation? Seriously, would you mind explaining what makes one a specialist in a given discipline?

  • @CrazyEasternEuropean Are you aware that universities offer doctorates in religion and philosophy as much as they do in physics? So again, here’s the contradiction: Harris rightly rails on Chopra for going on about physics and religion without specialized study in physics. But that, Harris, or anyone else, however, can then speak and write critically about religion (whether as a phenomenon or a particular religion, viz. Islam), without obtaining a doctorate in the field?

  • @Iconoclaster1

    CHopra is really screwed in that case..he has no philosophy degrees or degrees in religion. He goes on about nothing that he is qualified to address.

    Harris has his Phd in Neurological sciences.....he is more qualified than Chopra in any field that addresses the brain.

    Chopra makes things up...watch him come up with numbers when he talks about neurons.

  • @ThieleM As I've been saying, Chopra is screwed because he yammers on about neuroscience and physics without having studied them academically. But as I've also been saying, why then does Harris think he can talk authoritatively about religion and philosophy without doctorates in the fields? Harris makes statements about religious traditions that undergraduates in religious studies laugh about. Similarly, he uses philosophical jargon without the scholarly background to know he's blundering.

  • @Iconoclaster1

    You are making an appeal to authority, which is a logical fallacy. What matters is the correctness of the statements not the credentials of those asserting itm in most cases. When talking about things like philosophy or religion (which is manufactured& the end user) anyone can read and develop a strong understanding. Physics and Neuroscience can be tested by those with proper training. You are making a fallacy of equivocation then an argument from authority.

  • You see the appeal to authority does have logical validity ONLY when discussing things with a right or wrong answer. Neurology, physics etc are disciplines that have real answers. Religion is nebulous, philosophy is nebulous.....the appeal to authority is greatly diminished in it's case. There are people right out of the box that are good at philosophical matters. Nobody has ever just known neurology or physics without education. That is why you cannot view the areas as equal peers.

  • @ThieleM If you think that "physics etc" has "real" answers, you should speak to more physicists about that. And English professors. Your understanding of philosophy, as a scholarly discipline, should embarrass you. No one is a good philosopher "right out of the box". A good philosopher, like any other specialist, comes about with careful and extended study and research. Religion isn't nebulous at all, but then again, I'm quite sure you never took a university course in the discipline as well.

  • @ThieleM This is great - it's exactly what Chopra should have said to Harris: "You are making an appeal to authority, which is a logical fallacy. What matters is the correctness of the statements not the credentials of those asserting itm in most cases."

  • @Iconoclaster1

    Don't twist what I said. I said that in many cases the appeal to authority is valid...hard sciences being one of those cases. It is Chopra who is milking in this case.

  • @ThieleM I didn't twist what you said, I merely used your reasoning and applied it back to you. That's called being hoisted up on your own petard.

  • @Iconoclaster1

    no, you ignored the point about the validity of being in a position of technical knowledge. That is a spin. Bill O'Reily would be proud of you