and you claim christians are trying to silence people but its folks like you that support hate crimes bills that would infact silence christians from speaking ! but in bizzaro world you would seems to know what your actually saying . how do you feel about sharia-law ? do you even know what it is ? do you know what it would mean for women ? im thinking you dont have a clue .
@kathy160 i can tell by your comment that you are clueless about who is trying to silence other religions , and the hate you say seems to be coming from people like you .i wonder why no one ever says anything about islams killing christians in sudan and making slave of them ,of how american sailors were kidnapped killed and made slaves in tripoli by muslims in the 1700s , long before we had a middle-east policy, search the naval act of 1794 muslims killing christians ! but you knew that right???
I'll give you the final word here and I've gotta run. Just kidding. I'm going to make a final word after your final word which actually gives me the final word.
the problem is the christian religion in UNITED states. they have the tea gagger party now. and they always say its a christian nation cause of our founding fathers... they are trying to silence all other religions in this country.... i hate religion but i see its christians that give more hate than the bs love they claim.
fox news loves a god of republican brainwashing system. i remember in elementary school. a jehovah witness friend of mine said i cant sing to this cause my parents said dont. and there was a muslim classmate also that sat in the corner during the antehem time at 9am .he wore a rag on his head. but i rememeber the teacher saying why arent you singing???? you people are a disgrace to america..... fact is their will always be a problem in america without real freedom.
If I thought a nation of kids mumbling their way through the "Pledge of Allegiance" actually had any affect on their affinity toward this country, or toward religion maybe I'd care about this debate.
Hell, if it actually mattered I'd argue that kids should have to recite a "Pledge of Education"; swearing to respect their teachers, and give them their undivided attention for the entirety of the lesson. Maybe we'd help inculcate a generation of kids that didn't act like brats in the classroom.
let me see if i get this right rob boston agrees with the 1943 ruling of the supreme court to not mandate the pledge of allengence,but dissagrees with the 1958 ruling because it included god in it,this guy has a hate on for god ( FOR SURE )
Bullshit. the first ammendment's establishment clauis protects EVERYONE'S religious rights. The Jehova's witnesses, as fucked up as they are, had a valid concern given what the 1943 ruling was about. The inclusion of "under god" violates the constitution as a whole.
@NUTCASE71733 how could it violate the constitution if its freedom of speech which it is & freedom of religion which it is, & i will bet you if you took a pole today 80% of the people would want it to stay in.
You obviously have no idea why the constitution was written. It's to protect everyone's rights, and under god was never in the allegience to begin with. I myself am part of the majority in this country but I want the pledge to return to it's original state since this is not a christian nation, and shouldn't cater to the religious at all to begin with.
@NUTCASE71733 not a christian then you tell me why our laws are based on the ten commandments, & you know what you may be right this may not be a christian nation anymore,& just maybe thats why its in the shape its in right now.
@shannon123933 Tell me how 35 USC 103 is based on the Ten Commandments, or the Copyright Law, or the FD&C Act. (That is the "obviousness" standard in the US Patent law.) Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution...or the prohibition on religious tests for public office, in Article VI of the US Constitution.
This is too confusing. A man making sense on Fox News. Go, Rob.
The day we are FORCED to say the pledge is the day we cease to exist as a free society. Wouldn't the theocrats love that? Hells yea. "Say the pledge and believe in god or pay a fine (or get beat up on the playground)."
What about freedom of speech? It's the same old story, accept something from the government and they "own you." Maybe churches should pay taxes and become free to say what they want.
Robert I applaud you for upholding my freedom! I did not stand up for the pledge my last year in high school because I found it to be pointless propaganda; and I got a "talk" with my teacher and then a call form my teacher telling my parents about my "misbehavior". There's no respect for freedom in making kids blindly recite the pledge. This equivalent to child abuse.
@ensignz he is upholding your freedom are you kidding me. its when thay outlaw the pledge is when your freedom is going to be lost ,freedom of speech ever hear of that,pointless propaganda thousands of men & women have died so you could have the right to post your little words here having the pledge removed from the classroom is one step closer to our freedom of speech removed.you didnt say you wanted it removed but you might as well have.tell that to the familys who lost loved ones fighting
@shannon123933 Why do you people have such a problem with the idea that making students pledge an allegiance to a nation under god discriminates and ostracises pupils who dont have the same belief?
@shannon123933 No. The point is it shouldn't be in the pledge in the first place. Not mentioning a God isn't discriminating against anyone. To be fair and equal you would have to either not mention religion or to mention every single religion, including the possibility there is no God and the possibility no religion is correct in their beliefs. Schools are government based and as such should not hold favouring beliefs about any particular religion or religion in general.
@shannon123933 They should allow for accommodation of religions in public schools but they should not make them mandatory. Voluntary prayer is perfectly fine but it should not be required or enforced by shcool officials. BAM.
@shannon123933 There is no prohibition on students praying in public schools on their own time, if it is not disruptive. Schools can even teach courses in the Bible as literature or include it in a history of religion class - they just can't teach religion or attempt to proselytize. Many people who push for required prayer in schools are not satisfied with this and want to misrepresent the state of the law.
I agree with L571J, Rob Boston really showed the anchor up. You can hear it in the anchor's voice and see it in his posture as he went from amusement and smugness to slumping and resignation.
I was removed from class several times when I was in grade school for refusing to say the pledge, I even recall being sent to the principles office because I talked back when being told to say it. This would have prevented any of that!
Most people haven't a clue about the history of the pledge. When I tell people that the author was a socialist minister named Francis Bellamy and he wrote the pledge without any reference to God, I'm called a liar.
and you claim christians are trying to silence people but its folks like you that support hate crimes bills that would infact silence christians from speaking ! but in bizzaro world you would seems to know what your actually saying . how do you feel about sharia-law ? do you even know what it is ? do you know what it would mean for women ? im thinking you dont have a clue .
saint27573 1 month ago
@kathy160 i can tell by your comment that you are clueless about who is trying to silence other religions , and the hate you say seems to be coming from people like you .i wonder why no one ever says anything about islams killing christians in sudan and making slave of them ,of how american sailors were kidnapped killed and made slaves in tripoli by muslims in the 1700s , long before we had a middle-east policy, search the naval act of 1794 muslims killing christians ! but you knew that right???
saint27573 1 month ago
BYE BYE BUDDY. Come back when you have another 12 complaints in a school district of about 35000 CHILDREN!!
AABREU80 1 month ago
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Your bringing up facts about 1943? COME ON MAN!!!
AABREU80 1 month ago
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Your bringing up facts about 1943? COME ON MAN!!!
AABREU80 1 month ago
Your bringing up facts about 1943? COME ON MAN!!!
AABREU80 1 month ago
I'll give you the final word here and I've gotta run. Just kidding. I'm going to make a final word after your final word which actually gives me the final word.
Arcexey 5 months ago
the problem is the christian religion in UNITED states. they have the tea gagger party now. and they always say its a christian nation cause of our founding fathers... they are trying to silence all other religions in this country.... i hate religion but i see its christians that give more hate than the bs love they claim.
kathy160 6 months ago
fox news loves a god of republican brainwashing system. i remember in elementary school. a jehovah witness friend of mine said i cant sing to this cause my parents said dont. and there was a muslim classmate also that sat in the corner during the antehem time at 9am .he wore a rag on his head. but i rememeber the teacher saying why arent you singing???? you people are a disgrace to america..... fact is their will always be a problem in america without real freedom.
kathy160 6 months ago
If I thought a nation of kids mumbling their way through the "Pledge of Allegiance" actually had any affect on their affinity toward this country, or toward religion maybe I'd care about this debate.
Hell, if it actually mattered I'd argue that kids should have to recite a "Pledge of Education"; swearing to respect their teachers, and give them their undivided attention for the entirety of the lesson. Maybe we'd help inculcate a generation of kids that didn't act like brats in the classroom.
MaxwellSDSU 7 months ago
let me see if i get this right rob boston agrees with the 1943 ruling of the supreme court to not mandate the pledge of allengence,but dissagrees with the 1958 ruling because it included god in it,this guy has a hate on for god ( FOR SURE )
shannon123933 8 months ago
@shannon123933
Bullshit. the first ammendment's establishment clauis protects EVERYONE'S religious rights. The Jehova's witnesses, as fucked up as they are, had a valid concern given what the 1943 ruling was about. The inclusion of "under god" violates the constitution as a whole.
NUTCASE71733 7 months ago
@NUTCASE71733 how could it violate the constitution if its freedom of speech which it is & freedom of religion which it is, & i will bet you if you took a pole today 80% of the people would want it to stay in.
shannon123933 7 months ago
@shannon123933
You obviously have no idea why the constitution was written. It's to protect everyone's rights, and under god was never in the allegience to begin with. I myself am part of the majority in this country but I want the pledge to return to it's original state since this is not a christian nation, and shouldn't cater to the religious at all to begin with.
NUTCASE71733 7 months ago
@NUTCASE71733 not a christian then you tell me why our laws are based on the ten commandments, & you know what you may be right this may not be a christian nation anymore,& just maybe thats why its in the shape its in right now.
shannon123933 7 months ago
@shannon123933 Tell me how 35 USC 103 is based on the Ten Commandments, or the Copyright Law, or the FD&C Act. (That is the "obviousness" standard in the US Patent law.) Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution...or the prohibition on religious tests for public office, in Article VI of the US Constitution.
Vespasian76 7 months ago
@thundergunn I did not know that. Well i learned something new thanks. Im serious, not being sarcastic
Snakemarra09 10 months ago
This is too confusing. A man making sense on Fox News. Go, Rob.
The day we are FORCED to say the pledge is the day we cease to exist as a free society. Wouldn't the theocrats love that? Hells yea. "Say the pledge and believe in god or pay a fine (or get beat up on the playground)."
alexlaessle1 1 year ago
so glad i dont have too say the pleage
bboyloco3 1 year ago
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What about freedom of speech? It's the same old story, accept something from the government and they "own you." Maybe churches should pay taxes and become free to say what they want.
vechorik 1 year ago
rob boston? more like boston rob! this guy looks different from when he was on survivor
OpRedDawn 1 year ago
rob boston is always really fucking prepared for anything they throw at him.
TheMichaelBB 1 year ago 3
Robert I applaud you for upholding my freedom! I did not stand up for the pledge my last year in high school because I found it to be pointless propaganda; and I got a "talk" with my teacher and then a call form my teacher telling my parents about my "misbehavior". There's no respect for freedom in making kids blindly recite the pledge. This equivalent to child abuse.
ensignz 1 year ago 3
@ensignz he is upholding your freedom are you kidding me. its when thay outlaw the pledge is when your freedom is going to be lost ,freedom of speech ever hear of that,pointless propaganda thousands of men & women have died so you could have the right to post your little words here having the pledge removed from the classroom is one step closer to our freedom of speech removed.you didnt say you wanted it removed but you might as well have.tell that to the familys who lost loved ones fighting
shannon123933 8 months ago
@shannon123933 Why do you people have such a problem with the idea that making students pledge an allegiance to a nation under god discriminates and ostracises pupils who dont have the same belief?
Sc0pe777 7 months ago
@Sc0pe777 what about the kids who belive in god were is there rights,to take that out of the pleadge would that not be discrimination against them!
shannon123933 7 months ago
@shannon123933 No. The point is it shouldn't be in the pledge in the first place. Not mentioning a God isn't discriminating against anyone. To be fair and equal you would have to either not mention religion or to mention every single religion, including the possibility there is no God and the possibility no religion is correct in their beliefs. Schools are government based and as such should not hold favouring beliefs about any particular religion or religion in general.
Sc0pe777 7 months ago
@Sc0pe777 then you tell me why in some PUBLIC schools in this nation thay are allowing prayer rugs foot baths & prayer rooms for muslim childern
shannon123933 7 months ago
@shannon123933 They should allow for accommodation of religions in public schools but they should not make them mandatory. Voluntary prayer is perfectly fine but it should not be required or enforced by shcool officials. BAM.
Sc0pe777 7 months ago
@shannon123933 There is no prohibition on students praying in public schools on their own time, if it is not disruptive. Schools can even teach courses in the Bible as literature or include it in a history of religion class - they just can't teach religion or attempt to proselytize. Many people who push for required prayer in schools are not satisfied with this and want to misrepresent the state of the law.
Vespasian76 7 months ago
Way to go Rob Boston!!!!
Desertman1950 1 year ago
I agree with L571J, Rob Boston really showed the anchor up. You can hear it in the anchor's voice and see it in his posture as he went from amusement and smugness to slumping and resignation.
nosuchthingasgod 2 years ago 3
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SonofJaphet 2 years ago
Wow, Robert mopped the floor with that anchor! I mean, he just demolished him!!!
L571J 2 years ago 23
I was removed from class several times when I was in grade school for refusing to say the pledge, I even recall being sent to the principles office because I talked back when being told to say it. This would have prevented any of that!
cebax 2 years ago 4
@cebax
What's even wackier - I spent a year in Texas as an exchange student. Being German, I didn't recite the pledge and promptly got in trouble for it.
The princinpa understood that I wouldn't pledge my allegiance to a foreign country, still the whole process was pretty weird.
pschierhorn 2 years ago 4
Rob rocked the day on this one
dmn713 2 years ago 3
Most people haven't a clue about the history of the pledge. When I tell people that the author was a socialist minister named Francis Bellamy and he wrote the pledge without any reference to God, I'm called a liar.
thundergunn 2 years ago 26
You're completely right. "Under god" was added during the height of McCarthyism and has remained since.
keithmoslak 2 years ago 6
1954
Eaglesfaninca 2 years ago