Karras was mad...but a mad genius. He was the one who built Garret's mechanical eye at the end of Dark Project, and this is why he has tried to kill him knowing that only the master Thief would have been able to stop his plans...as he did in fact.
=/ very depressing, very perfect end, the way he cups the remains of the rust gas, of Viktoria, and finally accepts what Artemus has been trying to tell him. Just listen to the emptiness in his voice at first. Such an amazing game
Thief II is the result of an absolutely excellent storyline mixed with amazing atmosphere, frightening, and yet propelling the player to proceed to stop the madness of Karras. This story blows the scripting of many films away, it's just that damn good!
Ahhh, Thief II: The Metal Age. Such a wondrous sequel. The relevant plot design compared to the last game, the change of character, a memorable villain, the quotes...such a wonderful sequel. I'm sure the guys that used to work at Looking Glass Studios are proud of their final game and how successful it would become.
I find it interesting how Garrett adapts to his environment or world changing. He is very adaptive by how at the end of the first game he uses the Mechanist's mechanical eye and uses other tools from the factions.
But then comparing the first ending to the second, Garrett is at first disturbed by the Keeper's. He say's, "I'm through with heroics", "Now I remember why I left the Keeper's", but in the second ending he says, "Tell me more."
Ironic because he had an empathy for Victoria in the 2nd
karras is sitting in a save chamber right? and his robots are not activated yet...i mean the gas? so where does this gas at 1:01 come from? and the gas at 1:25-1:28? and why is this robot at 1:50 broken? and what does that becon or however its written do?
Infact let me add that this ending is a dramatic one in comparison to the others.
1st, it lets in on Garetts change of heart. No longer does he selfishly ignores the pleas of those around him.
2nd. Garett returns to the keepers, WILLFULLY.
The entire personality of the main character and the plot goes into a B line the likes of which makes george lucas and his 3 prequels look like spinoffs.
The thing about thief and its writing is that it is " subtle" and you have to think to enjoy.
It's still a pretty good ending in that Karras is defeated and good prevails. I agree it's just a bit disappointing when you are expecting a more close combat big "The Matrix" style ending. but then, that isn't what Thief is all about, and besides, rather than big FMVs, the makers intentionally made most of the story available through the game itself (i.e. hearing karras' conversations etc.).
yeah karras pissed me off the moment i heard his simpsons voice. i was like "that's the voice of the guy i eventually get to dupe into death and ruin, and abolish his religion for all eternity? -SWEET" also that cathedral level in the catacombs, the hammer zombies, holyshit that was holyscary. peace thieves
Karras is a very well written villain, not meant to follow usual stereotypes. Speech impediment and other traits were meant to make him a special breed of anti-hero, but also a mastermind in its own right, as his masterplan is barely defeated at the end and with great sacrifice.
karras is awesome i think ''to the master builder upon the ground and he saw that the ground was good, and clean no grass hath marr'ed his path, NAY! not a whisper vilest weed spoiled his view! let thy furnace be fueled! let thy buildings be sound! let thy foes be fanquished! and all thyne endeavours have nothing and unto thee!'' lol
i hate karras because he ruined the one chance garrett had at love. he dosent relate to normal women well, he loved viktoria more than anyone, shes probably the only person he has ever or would ever love =).
I agree. Just look at the amount of dialogue that he got in the last level. He reminded a bit of Dr. Breen from Half-Life 2 (One speech in particular was VERY similar) in term of omnipresence.
I agreed with Garret there. "Just keep preaching, Karras."
good comment i noticed that too, and at the end notice the pissed off tone in garretts voice when he asks artemus if it was all written: "all this.. it was written?... viktorias death... and karras.. was that written? in your BOOK?!". it seems to show that he loved viktoria, and that his victory against karras wasnt a happy one for him.
"...was it written, in your books? All is, as it was written. And ther is more. YES... Tell me..." This is a very misterius ending, i thought Garret wanted to join the keepers again. Then i see in T3DS that he still hate's the keepers.
Oh I love this game. I didn't mind Karras dying (sp?). I actually liked it when he did. He was kind of anoying. I like the sound he makes when the rust gas comes
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YaBilan 1 week ago
Karras was mad...but a mad genius. He was the one who built Garret's mechanical eye at the end of Dark Project, and this is why he has tried to kill him knowing that only the master Thief would have been able to stop his plans...as he did in fact.
ShinXari 2 months ago
Just finished this game again for the who knows which time.
Ugh can be a very trying on your patience, but these little cutscene gems always made it worth it.
ComeToJesus 4 months ago
LGS knew how to make a good cutscene... notice how at 1:21 it makes you stare at the one servant until.... well, Karras kind of says it
'WUAA-!'
MattB225DISTRACTION 8 months ago
Karras has such a strange voice in the English version. :O
JonnyFromGermany 8 months ago
=/ very depressing, very perfect end, the way he cups the remains of the rust gas, of Viktoria, and finally accepts what Artemus has been trying to tell him. Just listen to the emptiness in his voice at first. Such an amazing game
antihero276 8 months ago
Thief II is the result of an absolutely excellent storyline mixed with amazing atmosphere, frightening, and yet propelling the player to proceed to stop the madness of Karras. This story blows the scripting of many films away, it's just that damn good!
Rich7714 1 year ago 5
why the mechanists where the hammerites enemy?
SilentShibito 1 year ago
Builder, Forger, Father, fuel us now.
hardstyle905 1 year ago
one of the most underrated games ever. I remember at 13, I could make levels for thief 2 using DromEd, it was just.. brilliant.
rorymarsh 1 year ago
What's wrong with this guy? He's not charismatic at all! His voice is ridiculus
! He sound like a powerless fanatic kicked out from a church, cursing anyone randomly.
rhgzrhzrhz 1 year ago
Ahhh, Thief II: The Metal Age. Such a wondrous sequel. The relevant plot design compared to the last game, the change of character, a memorable villain, the quotes...such a wonderful sequel. I'm sure the guys that used to work at Looking Glass Studios are proud of their final game and how successful it would become.
skittles25 1 year ago 3
I find it interesting how Garrett adapts to his environment or world changing. He is very adaptive by how at the end of the first game he uses the Mechanist's mechanical eye and uses other tools from the factions.
But then comparing the first ending to the second, Garrett is at first disturbed by the Keeper's. He say's, "I'm through with heroics", "Now I remember why I left the Keeper's", but in the second ending he says, "Tell me more."
Ironic because he had an empathy for Victoria in the 2nd
TaylorBurk025 1 year ago
um, did they win?
DBuilder 1 year ago
karras is sitting in a save chamber right? and his robots are not activated yet...i mean the gas? so where does this gas at 1:01 come from? and the gas at 1:25-1:28? and why is this robot at 1:50 broken? and what does that becon or however its written do?
unknownone3232 1 year ago
"Stood the Master Builder upon the Ground.
And He saw that the Ground was Good, and Clean.
No Grasses marred His Path.
Nay, not a wisp of villous weed did spoil His view.
Let thy Furnace be Fueled.
Let thy Buildings be Sound.
Let thy Foes be Vanquished.
And all thy Endeavors be a Blessing unto thee."
BlahBlahYouWho 2 years ago 28
I will follow the Father Karras's teachings forever.
Karras will live in our mind forever.
PLATOON72 2 years ago 2
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this ending was rather disapointing
pyramidhead138 2 years ago
Yeah, I like the ending of Thief 1 more. Oh well, they both have their charmes, and I can understand why people like this, but it's not for me.
MaestroB0B 2 years ago
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its hard to explain why i didnt like this ending but after seeing it i KNEW there was gonna be a 3rd game cause it cant end like that
pyramidhead138 2 years ago
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what a crap ending. the last level is a bitch. and this is all you get?
articfox2276 3 years ago
Thats all you got in the other ones.
LgndryThndr 2 years ago
Infact let me add that this ending is a dramatic one in comparison to the others.
1st, it lets in on Garetts change of heart. No longer does he selfishly ignores the pleas of those around him.
2nd. Garett returns to the keepers, WILLFULLY.
The entire personality of the main character and the plot goes into a B line the likes of which makes george lucas and his 3 prequels look like spinoffs.
The thing about thief and its writing is that it is " subtle" and you have to think to enjoy.
LgndryThndr 2 years ago 2
i like this ending... it's full of pathos
ShinXari 2 years ago 4
It's still a pretty good ending in that Karras is defeated and good prevails. I agree it's just a bit disappointing when you are expecting a more close combat big "The Matrix" style ending. but then, that isn't what Thief is all about, and besides, rather than big FMVs, the makers intentionally made most of the story available through the game itself (i.e. hearing karras' conversations etc.).
Rich7714 2 years ago 4
trikster is garrets nemesis i think?
swedichboy1000 3 years ago
when garrett close the door it is look like: karres i see u in hell :)
swedichboy1000 3 years ago 4
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HES NAME IS KARRES NOT KARRAS!!!
swedichboy1000 3 years ago
It is Karras. You may be confused by some other material.
jillym1231211 3 years ago 8
@swedichboy1000 all text clearly say Karras
LgndryThndr 1 year ago
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swedichboy1000 1 year ago
@LgndryThndr his obviously got down syndrome or hasn't even played the game to see the name spelt "karras".
ssmacka 1 year ago
PRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAISE TO KARRIS... and the builder.
ollymcguirk 3 years ago
On a side note, this scene reminds me SO much of the Adeptus Mechanicus from 40K.
eatfirejones 3 years ago
Me too. I wonder how the AdMech and the Mechanists would get along.
Probably pretty well.
PeanutButterGoodness 3 years ago
AdMech would get along better with Hammerites. Mechanists aren't really concerned with keeping technology hidden.
Of course, Hammerites would probably regard AdMech as being overly soft.
In fairness, AdMech are basically a toned-down ripoff of the Hammerites.
ZahrDalsk 2 years ago
When I was very young,
Karras took me away from the Foundry Mother and said,
"Thou art the Child of my endeavors. Follow me, and thou shalt inherit the earth."
BlahBlahYouWho 2 years ago 2
@eatfirejones
I agree. Such fanaticism.
dvlfsh 2 years ago
or he was like: die you bastard....murdered my chick..grumble grumble.
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
At 1:14 I can see Karras going: "oh. fuck."
aleks214 3 years ago 2
yeah karras pissed me off the moment i heard his simpsons voice. i was like "that's the voice of the guy i eventually get to dupe into death and ruin, and abolish his religion for all eternity? -SWEET" also that cathedral level in the catacombs, the hammer zombies, holyshit that was holyscary. peace thieves
thegreatP23 3 years ago
Karras is a very well written villain, not meant to follow usual stereotypes. Speech impediment and other traits were meant to make him a special breed of anti-hero, but also a mastermind in its own right, as his masterplan is barely defeated at the end and with great sacrifice.
cxmtl 2 years ago
thanks for this, i just finished the game a few minutes ago, but the cutscene didnt play!
thanks to the builder for youtube and dedicated fans :)
and computers of course :P
oh and the internet....
divilly6 3 years ago 3
I once had to do an audition. I pretended to be karras.
Needless to say I got the part.
Tyreleon 3 years ago 3
karras is awesome i think ''to the master builder upon the ground and he saw that the ground was good, and clean no grass hath marr'ed his path, NAY! not a whisper vilest weed spoiled his view! let thy furnace be fueled! let thy buildings be sound! let thy foes be fanquished! and all thyne endeavours have nothing and unto thee!'' lol
TomahawkWarfare 3 years ago
Lol, he had some pretty cool speeches xD!
jillym1231211 3 years ago 2
maby... but i hated him alot. he ruined garretts only chance at love.
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
but she took his eye in the first game that would hurt
sourcream93 3 years ago 2
well thats true, but the new eye is better than his old one lol
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago 3
i hate karras because he ruined the one chance garrett had at love. he dosent relate to normal women well, he loved viktoria more than anyone, shes probably the only person he has ever or would ever love =).
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
I agree. Just look at the amount of dialogue that he got in the last level. He reminded a bit of Dr. Breen from Half-Life 2 (One speech in particular was VERY similar) in term of omnipresence.
I agreed with Garret there. "Just keep preaching, Karras."
POLE7645 3 years ago
good comment i noticed that too, and at the end notice the pissed off tone in garretts voice when he asks artemus if it was all written: "all this.. it was written?... viktorias death... and karras.. was that written? in your BOOK?!". it seems to show that he loved viktoria, and that his victory against karras wasnt a happy one for him.
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
@POLE7645
This game came out 4 years before HL2. So if one borrowed from the other, it's obvious which one that is.
terrycrewser4th 4 months ago
good... garrett avenges viktoria. wish she lived to be with him though lol.
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
I hate Karras. Good riddance, really.
sunderking 3 years ago
What? He was awesome.
CerebralStasis 3 years ago
For those who don't know...
Stephen Russell...Garret's voice is also...karras voice...
Awesome don't u think?
DJiKKi 3 years ago 27
Also, drunken Benny's voice.
CerebralStasis 3 years ago
I didn't know about Benny, but yes, Russell is awesome:D
Dagaen 3 years ago
Benny's voice is actually a guard voice ...
benny is in mission 7 blackmail...
"i cant believe some taffor spill meat all over the rub" or somethin like that
JazzCloud 3 years ago
It's "I can't believe some taffer spilled mead all over the rug!"
CerebralStasis 3 years ago
@DJiKKi I just freaked out.Your not serious?
satric75 1 year ago
just finished this game, again. hadn't played it in forever.
i friggin love the art style of these games.
voodoocrispy 4 years ago
Karras is the head of the NWO, we are the builders children who have been blindly manipulated & exploited for their purpose. lol
gnarlyest 4 years ago
Ebay ^_^
jillym1231211 4 years ago
omg thanks! :O I'm gonna check that right now! XD *vrooooom*
malonbu 4 years ago
the dark project ending was better.
lan795 4 years ago
"...was it written, in your books? All is, as it was written. And ther is more. YES... Tell me..." This is a very misterius ending, i thought Garret wanted to join the keepers again. Then i see in T3DS that he still hate's the keepers.
mjshikeli 4 years ago
Garretts always hated the Keepers xD!
jillym1231211 4 years ago
he only co-operates with them.
lan795 4 years ago
can someone make video or help me at next map when serif died? I cant ever reach that end. plz make video or help me.
pekonisilma 4 years ago
Nice idea to put the cutscene on youtube. I have put the french version cutscenes. Hail to the Thief !
trickster8009 4 years ago
Oh I love this game. I didn't mind Karras dying (sp?). I actually liked it when he did. He was kind of anoying. I like the sound he makes when the rust gas comes
TheGrimSmile 4 years ago
AWSOME! I love the look on Karras's face as he realizes he's about to die! Priceless!
keeperalissa 5 years ago