Stop bashing American cars simply because they're American. That's a stupid attitude to have. If you don't like American cars, then why the hell would you review one?
i have a problem with you saying that the new GS corvette being American is a DOWNFALL..... why is it a downfall? and you made it sound like its a fact rather than your opinion. first of all its a corvette!! how much more american can you get? if youre unhappyt with driving an american car then why did you choose the corvette to report on? and to say that its interior reflects that i really dont see how thats true.. nor did i hear your reasoning behind that statement..
Quite right. Furthermore, he had no clue what he was talking about.
A transverse composite "leaf" spring is both pure modern technology (high end composite materials, combined with extensive research for geometry, and loading), AND it's also the ultimate in efficiency (small, light weight, quick reacting, etc).
People just think hating on American cars makes them cool. People who trash talk American cars (purely for BEING American) are clueless dolts.
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I did a Wiki search on transverse leaf spring...and the corvette suspension geometry and technology came up...I didn't realize that it was changed from the C4 to the C5 and C6's...I have an 87 c4...and I personally love how the transverse works...its a shockingly simple system and easy to adjust...but I do know that the leaf itself does not do all the anti-roll job on its own...it does support the car and the anti roll bar does help keep the car level in the corners...everything has its place...
funny because I know many people who get 300k miles out of a chevy small block which im sure would be considered "reliable"...look around you dumbass...theres soo many articles about people getting over a MILLION miles out of a sbc so shut up with your better engineering BS
Richard - that FLD Tour was terrible. I've seen morticians with more spirit in their jobs than you. You have the charisma of ugly betty for chrissakes.
Also...a anti-roll bar is round...giving it the ability to twist more independently of its opposite side...a torsion affect...the leaves are flat and do resist twisting...but if they were to do this same job...why do the engineers incorporate a anti-roll/anti-sway bar then...I've only heard were leaves work in an antisway role when mounted lengthwise to the frame...such as a live solid axle setup...ie...pickups
Actually...it is a leaf spring...the corvettes also use an anti-sway/anti-roll bar...so yes it does support the suspension to some degree...you can change this leaf to a different firmness/ softness to adust it to your likeness if so inclined...so to say it doesn't support the suspension is false...
I gotta say, the whole "leaf spring" debate here is a bit, well, off. Yeah, corvette's used lousy suspensions for way too long. Heck, they had lousy everything for a long time. But using the term "leaf spring" to make it sound like it is using the suspension from an old pickup is not giving the 'vette its due. The 'vette's wheels are held by control arms, and only "sprung" by the spring. There is no solid axle. It's independent suspension except that the leaf also acts as an anti-sway bar.
Well...the suspension isn't technically true independent...think of it like this...if you press up on one side of the spring it will deflect some on its other end...marginally...so in essence opposite sides are not independent of one another...but the deflection is minimal...Now if they were fitted with a coil-over setup...the Corvettes would be the hottest thing you could get from the factory...But lets not take away the fact that tranverse leaf springs work in these cars
If it had coilovers, you would probably also install an anti-sway (anti-roll) bar on it. That would make it not quite independent. That is the same thing the 'vette achieves with the single leaf springs mounted in the C5 and C6. Now, I'd like to be able to adjust corner weights and heights as much as the next guy, so coilovers would be great. However coilovers with an anti-roll bar are no more independent than a vette's leaf spring, if I understand it correctly.
ok i msut say weve come across a problem :-) your host for detours jsut doesn't have the energy nescesary for your brand of show its like watching top gear and half way through stopping to watch an episode of fith gear.... :-(
Oooh, getting compared to Fifth gear - that's a pretty low blow! Lol. That show is like the punching bag of the car world, though I'd rather watch it than Motortrend or some of the other really bad ones.
One other thing...The Grand Sport is not $70,000...it can be had for $56,000 base...its all those other options that jack up the price...that a dealer price gouging...
The funny thing is...people say this suspension is old and doesn't work or can't be taken any farther than it already is...Yet the Corvette will out handle the great majority of whats out there on the streets...for a bargain. So unless I'm missing something here...it must work! Sure I wouldn't mind Coil-overs for a truely independent suspension setup...But unless I'm tracking this car at least once a week...I can't justify it. And thats what these cars excell at as they sit...track days.
haha, i do admidt the leaf spring suspension on the vette is very good.... but i dont know.... maybe im shallow, but i just would want leaf springs on my sports car haha
Nice vette but I'm not really blown away by launch control. it's great for mindless morons who can't launch a car. I see launch control as a handicap for nub drivers. Hey, I may not see the big deal with it, but for some people it's a dream come true. They can finally drive like they have skill. You're either a nub or a pro. that's life.
okay, I'm fairly sure I read that the corvette used something other than leaf-spring suspension...anybody know about that? another thing, I don't see the problem with that interior, it's clean, simple, and sharp.
Actually, the corvette has used leaf springs since day one, in one form and direction or another. The one thing you may be thinking of is the MSRC, Magnetic Selective Ride Control. It uses magnerheological shocks that are controlled by the computer to adjust damping rates approximately every inch of road surface, at 60 mph. Its impressive stuff. so impressive in fact, that Ferrari uses it. GM designed it for their Cadillac brand but initial testing was done on the Corvette, and now we have it
Let me spell this out as clearly as I possibly can for you, as your ignorence offends me. YOU brought up the fact the Corvette has an independant rear suspension. I brought up the fact that the set-up on the back, is a short-long arm, and went on to re-iterate my first point, namely, leaf springs are archaic and outperformed in every way these days. In bringing IRS into the mix, YOU brought up SL-Arm, you're simply too foolish to recognize it.
Alright, ten points if you can figure out which specific type in the back it has. I'll give you a hint: I've told you it about three times already, and you still don't seem to understand.
Anything you'd like to be wrong on? I'm getting tired.
Short-Long Arm is the most common type of suspension on Sports car, Einstein. It refers to the upper arm being shorter than the lower one, and looks like two wishbones when viewed from above. That's the system on the back of your beloved Corvette.
In response to some genious like yourself, who claimed leaf springs are the answer to all our performence problems, when every moron with half a brain cell knows otherwise.
I'm glad I'm the dim wit, because thus far I haven't made any particular reference to the Corvette, the argument is about leaf springs (Not anti-sway bars) and a short-long arm suspension type (Occassionally referred to as double wishbone).
And, because you're SO intelligent, I'm sure you had the common sense to read my post and the fact I explicitely stated SL-Arm suspensions would be what you find on sports cars (Which the Corvette is).
Did you actually just refer to leaf springs as "good in the twisties" and then condemned SL-Arm suspension? You do realise that completely and utterly ass-backwards, right? Leaf springs are what you find on pickups and old muscle cars, double wishbones are what you find on high-end sports car and full-blown race cars.
Derek, you should swap that LS3 into your Solstice, Does anyone els think its impressive that a Corvette can handle despite having leaf springs? I think its kinda like a 911 having the engine in the wrong place, it has its problems but its still a great car.
The V8. Hot Rod Magazine managed to stuff an LS7 into the front of that little thing, and minimise the weight penalty as well. I don't know, I thought it was cool, I thought you would too seeing as how they're boht LS-series in Solstice conversions.
I love the Corvette and the 370Z, but you can't really compare the two. The 370Z almost accomplishes what the Crovette does, for less than half the price. Just my $0.02.
I agree. the 370Z can hit 60mph in 4.6 seconds (C/D numbers with the auto Z) and turns lap times that are also really fast and not far off the Z51 vette. considering I can get a 370Z well equipped for 33K as opposed to 60K (out the door) for a vette I'll take the Z and add a few mods and beat the vette for still less money and look better doing it.
For the record the vette is not on leaf springs... absolutely retarded review of the vette. Clearly never learned how to drive your launch even with launch control sucked
Yo!!! Nice cars man but you are not too informed about that thing named...uuu..EUROPE! Because I never see too often European cars like I don't know....aaa.... Fiat Renault Citroen Ford(european market)!:| Look at this baby! This is the new 2010 Dacia Duster from my country this is a competition model:D 350 Hp 3L V6 24v 950kg 4X4 and 4 wheel steering:P! How do you like that Yankees!?
lolol look at 05:14.. come on dude.. these pants are really gay.. the pants are like gayed up with the standing position.. lol just take a look at derek.. he could be your idol,. no offence... but that thing at 05:14 was so gay.. use basketball clothes since u're that tall
Finally fast lane daily got a hold of something fast and exiteing to drive and review thank you so much fast lane daily for getting a hold of the corvette grand sport for a drive i love corvettes and i think their great value for your money.
uh ya bob lutz told the truth. are u forgetting the caprice cop cars that WILL BE COMING to the states and IS A G8 UNDER THE SKIN. Lutz didnt lie, but its what we expected.
You're right, This guy is a puss and he sounds like he's a top gear show host bashing on American performance. That car is bad ass and the build quality is perfect. Wayyyyy better that they were 20 years ago.
I have to say that I've sat and drove a number of Corvettes and I personally like their interior...plastics are used in every brand of automobile you can buy. Just because it doesn't use more cows than a farmers field shouldn't detract from the fact that this car is mean't to be a track star...Most of the people who buy a car like this...could give two shits what the interior looks like...as long as its quick and fast...and the ones who complain...can't afford these types of cars anyway!
wow my neighbor has a panthera just like that yellow one in the show. im gonna have to shake his hand for owning a car that is most likely worth more then his house
It seems pretty stupid to produce a performance station wagon. I don't even think the market for station wagons is even that big. It's one one of those things that the car companies want you to think you need but they're not something you ACTUALLY need. With that said, making something that's not that popular EXPENSIVE seems like an even worse idea. It's a total waste of time, money and resources to even give the idea even a thought.
boooooooooooooooooooooooooo high-performance wagons are SO COOL! CTS-V E63 wagon (about $85k) too bad they don't sell us the C-AMG wagon BMW needs to sell us the M3 and M5 wagons Audi needs to sell us the RS4 and RS6 Avants Dodge Magnum SRT-8 (RIP) Volvo 850 Turbo wagon (RIP) Subaru WRX wagon (RIP--the new hatch doesn't cut it) hey it's better than some corn-fed big SUV hummer thing, you get all the performance and a lot of room, sometimes 7-passenger seating too
typical GM, name whoring... Not even 10 more hp or even 15 from the Grandsport, and any color you want? (even a convertible?) some performance special...
dude that corvette is awesome. but whats up with the price for 5 grand more you can get a z06. So not the best deal but the grand sport does have its own special styling and features. unfortunatly those featues aren't worth 70,000. in my opinion just break open the bank and pay for a z06.
how about two timing, female dog can suck my left nut tuesday...while i just stand there and watch her cheat on me with that "thing"... but its good knowing i can atleast look forward to watching fast lane daily :D
Where do you guys get the cars to review? Do you go to a rental special dealer or something? OR make a fund raiser like seling "lemonade" across the street to buy it? Cuz you guys still have the lancer sport wagon.
well first off, the cars are media cars. they are given to magazines, online video review shows (like this one), and TV review shows. they don't pay money for them at all.
also, you do realize that most FLDetours are done at the same time right? that's why they still have the Lancer RalliArt Sportback (which, by the way, it is called).
also, to answer your question below...
Dave earns that much money from just 5 star ratings and how many views he gets on a video.
well considering the R8 will have more than 600hp at the crank, it'll have more power than the R8 V10. the rating you heard in the video is only at the wheels. Heffner even explains this in response to a commenter on their teaser video on here. search Heffner Performance R8.
I would still get a GTR R35, smaller engine =should= better economy, cheaper(kind of), AWD, 4 seats, trunk, you can take it to costco and fill it up with all kind of things, looks better(subjective off course), not american, better interior, japanese.
plz FLD put it on commenter of the week, PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well this dumby was lucky enough to get a chance to drive both, in conclusion finding overall best from the 370z although it was a 04 corvette.... still both awesome cars but nether piratical for my environment.
damn thats a chick. the vette needs to come with that chick. althoguh i dont like white girls and american muscle (SIC). but its a good idea for future marketing. choose your car, then a girl, tax free. id take it over abs or the traction control.
Yess.. Gemma Atkinson. I'm with you on that one Derek D.
Actually, if Bobby-boy Lutz says I can have it any way I want it... I want it like this... A Black & Silver two-tone CTS-V concept Coupe tuned up hot by Hennessey, with Gemma in the passenger seat next to me. That sound pretty good me, don't you think Derek?
Thank god FLDetours finally shreded a little rubber. I know they are press cars and tearing the rubber off of them might make for problems attaining the press cars in the future, but don't you think every magazine that reviews performance cars does a few donuts or power slides? They still get their cars to review even after they return the rubber scuffed up.
Also, why doesn't FLD get a long term test car? Something the staff of fld can use and abuse and we can follow how the car handles it.
False. It depends on the make and model but in general they have a bad rep and people only believe it because they don't take the time to look into them.
honestly, whats the difference with the new 2010 one and the current one?, same engine, same interior, same styling. With this new one at least change the suspension, so it rides better in the city, change the leave springs, and work on the interior. GM should make a hard top convertible corvette, now that'd be the shit.
only subscribed like a month ago and im loving this show.
i do think derek D needs to stop talking to whoever is behind the camera's or on the autocue and engage abit more with the audience.less crappy jokes, more derek magic i say.
and im happy to see an american actualy saying out loud that they know american cars have bad interiors and outdated engineering in that corvette review. which is still an epic car
I agree with you but i think they proved themselves with the CTS-V....i think they need to concentrate on a car to compete with C-class/3 series/A4, look at the 3 main european companies unless im mistaken a large margin of there sales are on those 3 cars. Then work on an Sclass/7series/A8 competitor and on and on. Basically what im saying is i think wagons shouldnt be developed till last
im confused as to why the grand sport being american is a bad thing? it should be about the car, not where it came from. and i know his comments weren't biased based on where the car was made, but i just dont understand why the fact that its from the states is a bad thing. if anything it should be good that a car of that caliber is coming out of the states.
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regina4968 1 year ago
look at complete edition with this kind of film here from avatz ... net change ... to .
chumacerolesia 1 year ago
Stop bashing American cars simply because they're American. That's a stupid attitude to have. If you don't like American cars, then why the hell would you review one?
Amras0407 1 year ago
That fucker Bob Putz ALSO said that there was NO market for performance wagons when there was talk about a G8 Wagon.
NOW all of a sudden there is a market. Fucking schizoid bastard.
usquanigo 2 years ago
@usquanigo hahahahaha no really?
dillholeism 2 years ago
the FLDetour guy has the least personality of any human ever.........
Thundering24 2 years ago
Kimi Raikkonen could do a much better job, lol
rafa281 2 years ago
i have a problem with you saying that the new GS corvette being American is a DOWNFALL..... why is it a downfall? and you made it sound like its a fact rather than your opinion. first of all its a corvette!! how much more american can you get? if youre unhappyt with driving an american car then why did you choose the corvette to report on? and to say that its interior reflects that i really dont see how thats true.. nor did i hear your reasoning behind that statement..
DJRandySky 2 years ago 5
you can get a lot more american in a Cadillac, it's more of a typical american car
rafa281 2 years ago
Quite right. Furthermore, he had no clue what he was talking about.
A transverse composite "leaf" spring is both pure modern technology (high end composite materials, combined with extensive research for geometry, and loading), AND it's also the ultimate in efficiency (small, light weight, quick reacting, etc).
People just think hating on American cars makes them cool. People who trash talk American cars (purely for BEING American) are clueless dolts.
usquanigo 2 years ago
genuine american muscle just sounds too good
sudebroyalfa 2 years ago
Gemma Atkinson looks fine, downside is that she's british...
esaedvik 2 years ago 3
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PostChristCrucified 2 years ago
I did a Wiki search on transverse leaf spring...and the corvette suspension geometry and technology came up...I didn't realize that it was changed from the C4 to the C5 and C6's...I have an 87 c4...and I personally love how the transverse works...its a shockingly simple system and easy to adjust...but I do know that the leaf itself does not do all the anti-roll job on its own...it does support the car and the anti roll bar does help keep the car level in the corners...everything has its place...
vettelover2009 2 years ago
funny because I know many people who get 300k miles out of a chevy small block which im sure would be considered "reliable"...look around you dumbass...theres soo many articles about people getting over a MILLION miles out of a sbc so shut up with your better engineering BS
mattmopar440 2 years ago
Richard - that FLD Tour was terrible. I've seen morticians with more spirit in their jobs than you. You have the charisma of ugly betty for chrissakes.
mickvk 2 years ago
the lotus looks very similar to the tesla roadster
TandemDawgBMG 2 years ago
"There is a downfall, it is American..." WTF? Are you serious? FLDetours can eat shit
Phirepower07 2 years ago 2
agreed..theres ALOT of American cars out there that would RAPE pos jap cars
mattmopar440 2 years ago
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r0b0kar 2 years ago
these guys are some of the worse car reviewers in the world. No motivation, so please add some good camera angels like TOP GEAR or have drag races
cbkg1 2 years ago
Also...a anti-roll bar is round...giving it the ability to twist more independently of its opposite side...a torsion affect...the leaves are flat and do resist twisting...but if they were to do this same job...why do the engineers incorporate a anti-roll/anti-sway bar then...I've only heard were leaves work in an antisway role when mounted lengthwise to the frame...such as a live solid axle setup...ie...pickups
vettelover2009 2 years ago
Actually...it is a leaf spring...the corvettes also use an anti-sway/anti-roll bar...so yes it does support the suspension to some degree...you can change this leaf to a different firmness/ softness to adust it to your likeness if so inclined...so to say it doesn't support the suspension is false...
vettelover2009 2 years ago
I totally say 'tad'!
phikes 2 years ago
Japan? What? Japan? Well, actually, you're wrong.
sspope 2 years ago
I gotta say, the whole "leaf spring" debate here is a bit, well, off. Yeah, corvette's used lousy suspensions for way too long. Heck, they had lousy everything for a long time. But using the term "leaf spring" to make it sound like it is using the suspension from an old pickup is not giving the 'vette its due. The 'vette's wheels are held by control arms, and only "sprung" by the spring. There is no solid axle. It's independent suspension except that the leaf also acts as an anti-sway bar.
haygoodb 2 years ago
Well...the suspension isn't technically true independent...think of it like this...if you press up on one side of the spring it will deflect some on its other end...marginally...so in essence opposite sides are not independent of one another...but the deflection is minimal...Now if they were fitted with a coil-over setup...the Corvettes would be the hottest thing you could get from the factory...But lets not take away the fact that tranverse leaf springs work in these cars
vettelover2009 2 years ago
If it had coilovers, you would probably also install an anti-sway (anti-roll) bar on it. That would make it not quite independent. That is the same thing the 'vette achieves with the single leaf springs mounted in the C5 and C6. Now, I'd like to be able to adjust corner weights and heights as much as the next guy, so coilovers would be great. However coilovers with an anti-roll bar are no more independent than a vette's leaf spring, if I understand it correctly.
haygoodb 2 years ago
ok i msut say weve come across a problem :-) your host for detours jsut doesn't have the energy nescesary for your brand of show its like watching top gear and half way through stopping to watch an episode of fith gear.... :-(
fullmetal32085 2 years ago
Oooh, getting compared to Fifth gear - that's a pretty low blow! Lol. That show is like the punching bag of the car world, though I'd rather watch it than Motortrend or some of the other really bad ones.
haygoodb 2 years ago
One other thing...The Grand Sport is not $70,000...it can be had for $56,000 base...its all those other options that jack up the price...that a dealer price gouging...
vettelover2009 2 years ago
The funny thing is...people say this suspension is old and doesn't work or can't be taken any farther than it already is...Yet the Corvette will out handle the great majority of whats out there on the streets...for a bargain. So unless I'm missing something here...it must work! Sure I wouldn't mind Coil-overs for a truely independent suspension setup...But unless I'm tracking this car at least once a week...I can't justify it. And thats what these cars excell at as they sit...track days.
vettelover2009 2 years ago 2
ya 1.0 lateral G from an "old" suspension
how many stock cars can do 1G ?
VeeKain 2 years ago
Grip doesn't represent handling.
sspope 2 years ago
4:11 - 4:15 who is that beautiful woman that DeAngelis wants in his shaggin' wagon?
cragmac1000 2 years ago
two fucking words. LEAF SPRINGS.
sealsponge 2 years ago
here's three more words for you: 19th century suspension!
cragmac1000 2 years ago
i prefer the styling of the zo1 to the grand sport
SIXCHA 2 years ago
the second that chevy puts a proper suspension in a corvette and they improve the interior slightly is the day i will buy one....
NotoriousRacer 2 years ago
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VeeKain 2 years ago
ZR1 has more than proper suspension, but the interior...haha
VeeKain 2 years ago
haha, i do admidt the leaf spring suspension on the vette is very good.... but i dont know.... maybe im shallow, but i just would want leaf springs on my sports car haha
NotoriousRacer 2 years ago
Nice vette but I'm not really blown away by launch control. it's great for mindless morons who can't launch a car. I see launch control as a handicap for nub drivers. Hey, I may not see the big deal with it, but for some people it's a dream come true. They can finally drive like they have skill. You're either a nub or a pro. that's life.
XioC652 2 years ago
I want that chick too!
cata893 2 years ago
I saw the ctsv wagon a month ago that thing is pretty interesting. Good thing the guys from KBB happened too be stopping by my work in it. :)
SourGrey 2 years ago
okay, I'm fairly sure I read that the corvette used something other than leaf-spring suspension...anybody know about that? another thing, I don't see the problem with that interior, it's clean, simple, and sharp.
johnnyb713456 2 years ago
Actually, the corvette has used leaf springs since day one, in one form and direction or another. The one thing you may be thinking of is the MSRC, Magnetic Selective Ride Control. It uses magnerheological shocks that are controlled by the computer to adjust damping rates approximately every inch of road surface, at 60 mph. Its impressive stuff. so impressive in fact, that Ferrari uses it. GM designed it for their Cadillac brand but initial testing was done on the Corvette, and now we have it
vettelover2009 2 years ago
I like the wagon!
johnnyb713456 2 years ago
Let me spell this out as clearly as I possibly can for you, as your ignorence offends me. YOU brought up the fact the Corvette has an independant rear suspension. I brought up the fact that the set-up on the back, is a short-long arm, and went on to re-iterate my first point, namely, leaf springs are archaic and outperformed in every way these days. In bringing IRS into the mix, YOU brought up SL-Arm, you're simply too foolish to recognize it.
I'm heading to bed, you're too foolish to help.
RomeoReject23 2 years ago
i love the new theme song
southphilie 2 years ago
"The vette has independent rear suspension."
Alright, ten points if you can figure out which specific type in the back it has. I'll give you a hint: I've told you it about three times already, and you still don't seem to understand.
Anything you'd like to be wrong on? I'm getting tired.
RomeoReject23 2 years ago
Wow, where to start...
Short-Long Arm is the most common type of suspension on Sports car, Einstein. It refers to the upper arm being shorter than the lower one, and looks like two wishbones when viewed from above. That's the system on the back of your beloved Corvette.
In response to some genious like yourself, who claimed leaf springs are the answer to all our performence problems, when every moron with half a brain cell knows otherwise.
I find your lack of intellect comical.
RomeoReject23 2 years ago
I'm glad I'm the dim wit, because thus far I haven't made any particular reference to the Corvette, the argument is about leaf springs (Not anti-sway bars) and a short-long arm suspension type (Occassionally referred to as double wishbone).
And, because you're SO intelligent, I'm sure you had the common sense to read my post and the fact I explicitely stated SL-Arm suspensions would be what you find on sports cars (Which the Corvette is).
Thank you, for being a retard.
RomeoReject23 2 years ago
Did you actually just refer to leaf springs as "good in the twisties" and then condemned SL-Arm suspension? You do realise that completely and utterly ass-backwards, right? Leaf springs are what you find on pickups and old muscle cars, double wishbones are what you find on high-end sports car and full-blown race cars.
RomeoReject23 2 years ago
yaaa i think you should have left that exaust key in
wontonwish 2 years ago
The Evora looks like its based off the Lotus M250 project.
dude486 2 years ago
The Evora is pretty ugly...
LOLHICRONO 2 years ago
those chrome wheels on grandsport look so cheap!!! also it sounded like it shat itself on the takeoff...
arminask 2 years ago 2
Derek, you should swap that LS3 into your Solstice, Does anyone els think its impressive that a Corvette can handle despite having leaf springs? I think its kinda like a 911 having the engine in the wrong place, it has its problems but its still a great car.
gearheadd318 2 years ago
When you have a spare moment, search "Hot Rod Magazine Solstice". You and them would get along splendidly!
RomeoReject23 2 years ago
because i want to drop a V8 into a solstice or my odd love of leaf springs? thanks for the article
gearheadd318 2 years ago
The V8. Hot Rod Magazine managed to stuff an LS7 into the front of that little thing, and minimise the weight penalty as well. I don't know, I thought it was cool, I thought you would too seeing as how they're boht LS-series in Solstice conversions.
RomeoReject23 2 years ago
lmfao thank u
sasserdave 2 years ago
why has lotus's newest car all looked like after market elise's
jordantaicho 2 years ago
I love the Corvette and the 370Z, but you can't really compare the two. The 370Z almost accomplishes what the Crovette does, for less than half the price. Just my $0.02.
5440Borderline 2 years ago
I agree. the 370Z can hit 60mph in 4.6 seconds (C/D numbers with the auto Z) and turns lap times that are also really fast and not far off the Z51 vette. considering I can get a 370Z well equipped for 33K as opposed to 60K (out the door) for a vette I'll take the Z and add a few mods and beat the vette for still less money and look better doing it.
jamesjdm 2 years ago
If it wasn't apparent enough that you were a fanboi by your name, then you certainly conveyed the message here.
bassist3453 2 years ago
hey
ARMONI555 2 years ago
that motor sounds WIKID at full chat during the launch control (vette)
machinegunmana 2 years ago
the leaf springs on the corvette arent like older leaf springs. they serve as sway bars also.
cyerbyandmarge 2 years ago
new theme song sounds like it was sung by some white dude from new york who thinks hes black....oh wait...it was!
i like the new graphics though...but theme song=gay
indi3 2 years ago
My mother says "tad"!
MOPARfulSRT4 2 years ago
WTS is "day tomaso"?!
YTdds 2 years ago
lol thats facts baby
jonthesailorman 2 years ago
MUSIC SUCKS GET IT OFF! 1/5
Shinigami920 2 years ago
show me a test where the leaf springs are inferior and I'll allow people to keep bashing them, until then, shut up about it.
viasevenvai 2 years ago
to the FLDtours host:
you Polack your name is really Ryszard Posłuszny
learn some polish, pal,
regards,
a fellow-polack
sirtristan01 2 years ago
That vette sounded like pure sex... wait
wait yea, def need 2 change my pants lol
killakenny08 2 years ago
For the record the vette is not on leaf springs... absolutely retarded review of the vette. Clearly never learned how to drive your launch even with launch control sucked
Phirepower07 2 years ago
The detomaso always was an ugly sledge just like your theme music
just saying
stripetuffy 2 years ago
Yo!!! Nice cars man but you are not too informed about that thing named...uuu..EUROPE! Because I never see too often European cars like I don't know....aaa.... Fiat Renault Citroen Ford(european market)!:| Look at this baby! This is the new 2010 Dacia Duster from my country this is a competition model:D 350 Hp 3L V6 24v 950kg 4X4 and 4 wheel steering:P! How do you like that Yankees!?
Andrei1900 2 years ago
well said my friend.
sirtristan01 2 years ago
50% more horse power on 420hp is over 600hp when I went to school.
chrispou 2 years ago
lolol look at 05:14.. come on dude.. these pants are really gay.. the pants are like gayed up with the standing position.. lol just take a look at derek.. he could be your idol,. no offence... but that thing at 05:14 was so gay.. use basketball clothes since u're that tall
jasamappa 2 years ago
So I already know what Ja rule is goin to say about that new CTS. He's goin to say i'm in the CTS so YES
killercrx91 2 years ago
The CTS-V Sport Wagon is a horrible idea.
Well, at leasst for the Us market, anyways.
Chickenfang7 2 years ago
It's a GREAT idea!!!
And it'll be the winner by default since the C63 wagon, RS4 Avant, and M3 wagon aren't sold over here.
I REALLY hope it'll be available with a manual transmission!
better than big-ass SUV and "corssovers" which are basically fattened-up "corn-fed" wagons
bottomlayer 2 years ago
god i hate tan roofs on red cars.
isokar92 2 years ago
the first launch control in a car was porsche with its current GT2, so not the americans
habkeinetastatur 2 years ago
Not for Yank cars, but having a 'vette would be properly awesome!
ZesPak 2 years ago
Rather contract AIDs than listen to the song
nuggetzor 2 years ago
Yeah! PROPER Manual gearbox!
Like how you guys removed that fuse, no wonder that V8 sounded so sweet!
AWDfreak 2 years ago
Finally fast lane daily got a hold of something fast and exiteing to drive and review thank you so much fast lane daily for getting a hold of the corvette grand sport for a drive i love corvettes and i think their great value for your money.
Towelman20 2 years ago
they are already making the cts wagen i just saw it in the show room today
igopp 2 years ago
ok? the video was talking about the CTS-V Wagon.
Elmo187 2 years ago
Really hate the new intro song
btinder711 2 years ago 2
uh ya bob lutz told the truth. are u forgetting the caprice cop cars that WILL BE COMING to the states and IS A G8 UNDER THE SKIN. Lutz didnt lie, but its what we expected.
jkcarcrazy 2 years ago 2
Lutz DID lie. he said the G8 would be making a return with a Chevy badge on it FOR THE PUBLIC. the Caprice cop cars are fleet-only vehicles.
Elmo187 2 years ago
It's got 1 leaf spring, fully independent rear suspension with a leafspring running along the bottom.
comradealexie 2 years ago
You're right, This guy is a puss and he sounds like he's a top gear show host bashing on American performance. That car is bad ass and the build quality is perfect. Wayyyyy better that they were 20 years ago.
Scray1 2 years ago
PANTERA
giriphotography 2 years ago
dude how are you going to diss your country like that!!! American??? aren't you American?? where are you at?? America dude!!!!
thing277 2 years ago
Are you somehow trying to say that American cars don't have crappy historically crappy interiors?
sspope 2 years ago
I have to say that I've sat and drove a number of Corvettes and I personally like their interior...plastics are used in every brand of automobile you can buy. Just because it doesn't use more cows than a farmers field shouldn't detract from the fact that this car is mean't to be a track star...Most of the people who buy a car like this...could give two shits what the interior looks like...as long as its quick and fast...and the ones who complain...can't afford these types of cars anyway!
vettelover2009 2 years ago
Was that the blue Lancer Sportback from last weeks FLDetours in the background?
CerberusTenshi 2 years ago
yes
comedicd 2 years ago
what a fucking knob
bigbag70 2 years ago
wow my neighbor has a panthera just like that yellow one in the show. im gonna have to shake his hand for owning a car that is most likely worth more then his house
CrazyJP87 2 years ago
downfall American? what an insult go kill your self for saying that asswhipe
franknvett 2 years ago
370z roadster is nice
Tomek016PL 2 years ago
swich coffee with what??
Tomek016PL 2 years ago
@Tomek016PL
Sulfuric Acid.
CerberusTenshi 2 years ago
It seems pretty stupid to produce a performance station wagon. I don't even think the market for station wagons is even that big. It's one one of those things that the car companies want you to think you need but they're not something you ACTUALLY need. With that said, making something that's not that popular EXPENSIVE seems like an even worse idea. It's a total waste of time, money and resources to even give the idea even a thought.
VampyresReverie 2 years ago
bottomlayer 2 years ago
A "new" intercooler, as in to replace the "old" already on the car ? lol
lowrthnu92 2 years ago
typical GM, name whoring... Not even 10 more hp or even 15 from the Grandsport, and any color you want? (even a convertible?) some performance special...
alexander1485 2 years ago
dude that corvette is awesome. but whats up with the price for 5 grand more you can get a z06. So not the best deal but the grand sport does have its own special styling and features. unfortunatly those featues aren't worth 70,000. in my opinion just break open the bank and pay for a z06.
ndsc7vette 2 years ago
how about two timing, female dog can suck my left nut tuesday...while i just stand there and watch her cheat on me with that "thing"... but its good knowing i can atleast look forward to watching fast lane daily :D
jattyaar 2 years ago
To answer your question Derek, yes, that Chick is in fact 'very do-able'
anthony6151 2 years ago
I think Rich is a great fit for FLDTours.
I vote for Richard (But I kinda miss Mike too :-)
HFIntegrale 2 years ago
Hello
TheBigDeal27 2 years ago
I don't understand why would you buy grandsport when the ZO6 costs about the same.
titan8535 2 years ago 3
Where do you guys get the cars to review? Do you go to a rental special dealer or something? OR make a fund raiser like seling "lemonade" across the street to buy it? Cuz you guys still have the lancer sport wagon.
FILIPINOCD 2 years ago
Lolz you have no idea that they make money off of youtube amoung other sources.
Ever hear of Dave's farm he makes 14k a month just on youtube. But he is more popular than FLD lolz.
sidewayznut2009 2 years ago
how the hell does he make that much money?
FILIPINOCD 2 years ago
well first off, the cars are media cars. they are given to magazines, online video review shows (like this one), and TV review shows. they don't pay money for them at all.
also, you do realize that most FLDetours are done at the same time right? that's why they still have the Lancer RalliArt Sportback (which, by the way, it is called).
also, to answer your question below...
Dave earns that much money from just 5 star ratings and how many views he gets on a video.
Elmo187 2 years ago
why not just get the v10 r8 520 hp
fuckin idiots at heffner -- underground kicks there ass ;)
W33Dblazer 2 years ago
well considering the R8 will have more than 600hp at the crank, it'll have more power than the R8 V10. the rating you heard in the video is only at the wheels. Heffner even explains this in response to a commenter on their teaser video on here. search Heffner Performance R8.
Elmo187 2 years ago
The Evora looks just like the Tesla Roadster.
idontgiveasheet 2 years ago
alright sweet! De Tomaso pantera is it gonna have a Ford motor again? or it's own motor? Also nice review on the grand sport guys
BlackTransAmdude 2 years ago 2
I hope so! Those Ford 351 Clevelands were frggin' amazing.
triplexxxsatyr 2 years ago
i would imagine they will get mercedes engines or some chev ls engines
Realtime1501 2 years ago
probably an LS motor from GM, but that's just a guess
bottomlayer 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ the Corvette...
I would still get a GTR R35, smaller engine =should= better economy, cheaper(kind of), AWD, 4 seats, trunk, you can take it to costco and fill it up with all kind of things, looks better(subjective off course), not american, better interior, japanese.
plz FLD put it on commenter of the week, PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahaha10001 2 years ago
Its Pantera not Panthera.
Sorry FLD I really hate to do it but, spelling fail
outlawsonic 2 years ago
Hi there.
Change the stupid song.
Thank you.
YawnGod 2 years ago
2x Tuesday! (two times tuesday)
men3Z 2 years ago
wow that guys dumb....
370z owns a corvette cant take a corner for shiiitt
Invisiblepanda 2 years ago
Hes driven both, I doubt you have. Don't argue with his personal opinion.
deviance87 2 years ago 2
have :) best day of my life but it was an 04 corvette
Invisiblepanda 2 years ago
your dumb Corvettes faster and has better cornering and your statement isn's even stated right
kuliolsm 2 years ago 2
well this dumby was lucky enough to get a chance to drive both, in conclusion finding overall best from the 370z although it was a 04 corvette.... still both awesome cars but nether piratical for my environment.
Invisiblepanda 2 years ago
536 hp thats it? from an r8? mtm got 700 hp out of the rs6.
Also why don't you ever show out takes or bloopers?
turner82992 2 years ago
is that Derek D's Lancer at 7:20?
thginKxelA 2 years ago
damn thats a chick. the vette needs to come with that chick. althoguh i dont like white girls and american muscle (SIC). but its a good idea for future marketing. choose your car, then a girl, tax free. id take it over abs or the traction control.
thewhitenight 2 years ago
Yess.. Gemma Atkinson. I'm with you on that one Derek D.
Actually, if Bobby-boy Lutz says I can have it any way I want it... I want it like this... A Black & Silver two-tone CTS-V concept Coupe tuned up hot by Hennessey, with Gemma in the passenger seat next to me. That sound pretty good me, don't you think Derek?
2005SilverSTi 2 years ago
Thank god FLDetours finally shreded a little rubber. I know they are press cars and tearing the rubber off of them might make for problems attaining the press cars in the future, but don't you think every magazine that reviews performance cars does a few donuts or power slides? They still get their cars to review even after they return the rubber scuffed up.
Also, why doesn't FLD get a long term test car? Something the staff of fld can use and abuse and we can follow how the car handles it.
wbadnaruk 2 years ago
73k for a Lotus. I'd rather get an M3
desimunda116 2 years ago
CTS wagon WILL be produced? We've had one on display at a local dealership for a couple months already.
kingofpita 2 years ago
70 thousand dollar Corvette GS, and your talking about the firm suspension and comparing it at a 370z and z4 level?? .....................
...maaaaaaannnnnnn thats weak sauce on my sandwich....
eeeen321 2 years ago
rich always gets the good carsto review, and i dont mean good by the corvett, im mainly talking about the mercedes sl he did earlier
yasuisaaan 2 years ago
There is nothing wrong with american cars!
1217tho 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Everything is wrong with american cars. They're absolute shite
kingofpita 2 years ago
False. It depends on the make and model but in general they have a bad rep and people only believe it because they don't take the time to look into them.
1217tho 2 years ago
@kingofpita you spelled shit wrong
jgto17 2 years ago
I beat you drive a Prius
kuliolsm 2 years ago
american cars are mediocre but the engines are some of the best you'll get
Realtime1501 2 years ago 2
a topheavy tuesday
patawataerson 2 years ago
YES!!!! another intelligent youtuber! lol
Mp5Speed 2 years ago
great. another edition of a crappy plastic toy. just what everyone wants. GM stop being retarded and putting all your money into a POS.
guys, it is FOOT-POUNDS of torque
oh and how bout a tanqueray and tonic tuesday?
spooled87 2 years ago
honestly, whats the difference with the new 2010 one and the current one?, same engine, same interior, same styling. With this new one at least change the suspension, so it rides better in the city, change the leave springs, and work on the interior. GM should make a hard top convertible corvette, now that'd be the shit.
kuel 2 years ago
only subscribed like a month ago and im loving this show.
i do think derek D needs to stop talking to whoever is behind the camera's or on the autocue and engage abit more with the audience.less crappy jokes, more derek magic i say.
and im happy to see an american actualy saying out loud that they know american cars have bad interiors and outdated engineering in that corvette review. which is still an epic car
thatciggaweed 2 years ago
I hear you on the crappy jokes.
Curufin42 2 years ago
Crappy jokes are my fault. I've gone off the deep end here in L.A.
-JF the producer.
FastLaneDaily 2 years ago
I forgive you lol.
Curufin42 2 years ago
no man i have to say ur jokes fit in, they are awkward silly jokes, like family guy jokes where its random
andr00123 2 years ago
i like the stale jokes....even though i face palm alot
Mp5Speed 2 years ago
Why are we force-fed FLDetours when it has its own chanel??
payasofeo69 2 years ago 3
you know what i say? MOTOR ON
lol
mackiechang 2 years ago
lol like the sarcasm....
I agree with you but i think they proved themselves with the CTS-V....i think they need to concentrate on a car to compete with C-class/3 series/A4, look at the 3 main european companies unless im mistaken a large margin of there sales are on those 3 cars. Then work on an Sclass/7series/A8 competitor and on and on. Basically what im saying is i think wagons shouldnt be developed till last
Mp5Speed 2 years ago
will people just shut up about the damn music already! you watch the show for the car news not the honkey tonk bull shit song
TheIrishHammer6969 2 years ago
2010 Corvettes have leaf springs in the rear??
kasted 2 years ago
yep
GTGTRR 2 years ago
jesus fucking christ, what year is it?
kasted 2 years ago
lol. it was like that even on the Z06 i think. oh well, still great cars haha
GTGTRR 2 years ago
Werent leaf springs around since like 1970s?
Mp5Speed 2 years ago
more like the 1770s
trebuchet1269 2 years ago
lol thats depressing......
Mp5Speed 2 years ago
im confused as to why the grand sport being american is a bad thing? it should be about the car, not where it came from. and i know his comments weren't biased based on where the car was made, but i just dont understand why the fact that its from the states is a bad thing. if anything it should be good that a car of that caliber is coming out of the states.
barsy07 2 years ago