@SolidMike84 You ASS-U-ME I enjoy movies. Do you constantly troll YouTube trying to put people down for their comments? Does it make you feel superior? Methinks you are a bit defensive and embarrassed that you're a wrestling fan. Everyone does not enjoy wrestling and I'm sure some of your fellow fans think it is real.
@TheAxeman64 Do you constantly troll pro-wrestling vids? Does it make you feel a better man/kid? Methinks you are a bit stupid and ignorant to see the big pic of wrestling.I think its real,cause i haven't experienced otherwise.
@spiritof1978 that's what i said ! on that note, wasn;t it yukon that got his cauliflower ear popped almost clean off by a kowalski kneedrop in montreal? i'm pretty sure it was, which would make this intro funny as hell.
@spiritof1978 never mind... i'm such a yutz sometimes, i posted my comment while the vid was paused at 1 minute, 5 seconds later the play by play guy confirms it... sorry to waste your time.
What a buzz to see old Killer after all these years. US wrestling fans may not know that he came to Australia and was a big star in the mid-60s with his famous claw hold. I am sure he was completel;y cracker. But, boy, could he play the bad guy!
Do you guys get excited over matches? Of course you do. Otherwise, why would you watch? Oooh, Brokeback Jack is going to take on the Gooch...who will win? Who will win?
So basically you idiots get excited over a fixed match. This is really your biggest shortcoming...just imagine you sitting there, in a sweat, wondering who will win...oh, the drama, the drama...when the promoter decided who will win 2 weeks back.
So I'm sure you can see how you'd be perceived as homos.
Sports aren't fixed. Pro Wrestling isn't a sport, it is performance art...as you already admitted. The outcome of a pro wrestling match is pre-determined...what is sporting about that?
I like how you alternatively defend queers and then try to call me one. Say, jackass...who watches sweaty men in tights pretend to fight?
So you know it is scripted...how can you become excited over a predetermined outcome? Where is the suspense?
firstly,why are you arguing thendumbass? fans ALREADY KNOW wrestling is scripted. they never claim to be real sport. we watch wrestling, not for actual competition, but rather for everything i said in my first post. love for business, daredevil athletes & the complete entertainment.
i dont need to defend anyone
any fuckin sport has sweaty men on tights.90% of america loves sport. not everyone is gay.
Man you're fucking stupid. I'm going to quote your own words.
"they never claim to be real sport"
"any fuckin sport has sweaty men on tights"
So...it isn't a sport, but it is a sport? Which is it, idiot?
Pro wrestling isn't a sport. It never has been. Your appeals to the majority have no meaning since pro wrestling isn't a sport, therefore it is irrelevant what other people believe about real sports.
they never claim to be sport. they are entertainment.thats why no point claiming they are fake.
now you say how gay watching sweaty men in tights is. so i point how, sports...something MOST normal human beings watch also has sweaty men in tights. so your logic is as dumb as your gay bashing
You keep saying "other sports." Pro wrestling isn't a sport, so "other sports" have no relevance. Is that hard to understand? You and the sweaty gay herd are alone in this fight.
Other sweaty men in tights are actually competing...in a real sport. You watch for the outcome, for the excitement of the unknown. There is no unknown in wrestling, there is no real contest.
it DOESN'T MATTER if its a sport or not. if watching sweaty men on tv makes you gay,then 90% of the world is gay as they watch sweaty men on tv one way or the other
lol im not trying to sound anything, remember im arguing with someone who thinks dancing and what not is gay. which people in my world will find quite amusing.
& btw this is youtube, not harvard law...no one cares about spelling mistakes, thats the biggest cliche of them all.atleast my posts has substance.
Then is the guy being pinned really being pinned? Or is he...pretending?
You're right...no one cares about spelling...unless you're telling everyone how intelligent you are. If you weren't the smartest guy here and proud of it then I wouldn't have mentioned your unnumerable spelling/grammar mistakes. It just seems odd in such an intelligent, educated guy.
Aren't you the one who defended homos? Are you for them or against them?
Ballet is gay. Dancing is gay. Performance art is gay. It follows then that pro wrestling is homosexual.
Not hard to understand...Just come out and admit it. You like watching sweaty, muscly men in tights pretending to fight. You're fine with homos, right? So it shouldn't be a big deal to admit what you really are.
Copying what I say to you is probably the easiest way for you to appear intelligent.
Pro wrestling isn't a sport...so what other sports do or don't do matters not a bit. Why do you say on one hand that it "isn't a sport" yet keep referring to other sports as if it were equal to them? Women's field hockey is a sport. Pro wrestling is fake shit for morons.
again for you retard - if watching sweaty men makes you gay, then 90% normal men who watch athletes on tv are gay.
you'r that stupid.
copying you? ha you'r the desperate retard who finds gayness in everything. im not inconsistent kid,im crystal clear at what im saying, you'r the retard whose too dumb to understand
oh wow so specific. read what i said, "the outcome is fixed, the bumps (that is moves they do) are mostly real" and takes great athleticism
& also, since its entertainment, not sport...and they are not claiming to be, they arent fooling anyone...so they arent faking, pinning is only part of a 'show.'
logic will be strong if you learnt to read & understand.
I then asked you if when a wrestler is pinned, is he faking being pinned? For some reason, you didn't want to answer.
I don't watch "shows." I don't watch pretend sports. I watch real sports, where the best man (usually) wins...not who is most popular or who can kiss the most promoter ass.
no, i said wrestlers arent pretending anything as ..when an actor dies in a movie,he isnt really dying, he's acting...pointing that out is stupid. thats what show business is all about
and why are you saying "pretend sport". they dont pretend to be a sport. its
no secret they are entertainment and showbiz..period.
& you watching real sport makes you gay by your logic,as you said "watching sweaty men on tv" makes you gay!
If wrestlers "aren't pretending," then what is the guy being pinned doing? Really being pinned or...pretending? Well?
I never said watch sweaty men on tv makes you gay. I said watch sweaty men pretend to fight makes you gay. Just like watching sweaty men pretend to play football would be gay. Of course, real football exists so we're spared that fate.
i already said the outcome is fixed. cause they never claim to be a sport. its entertainment, and in entertainment its their job to get pinned, depending on a lot of factors.
so when an actor dies in a movie.....is he a faker? a phony? or is he just doing his art? answer that.any art is part of mastering the illusion of the world.
& yes you did. exact words, plus you never answered whether you watch movies or not? cause thats not sport and makes you gay too
Art is gay. Art is grown men pretending to do something instead of really doing it. Since I can watch real combat sports, I have no need to watch fake ones.
You still haven't answered the question. Is the guy being pinned PRETENDING or not? A yes or no answer will work fine.
Acting has nothing to do with this. If you made signs and went and screamed for one guy in a movie fight while it was filmed, that would be equally gay. Say it wouldn't...I dare you.
no. why dont you first answer whether you watch movies or not? and next time when an actor dies in a movie,go ask someone is he a faker? a phony?laughable.
thats the same job of the wrestler. cause its art, entertainment.
acting, has everything to do with it. dont try to be smart,as acting is also an art.and you think art is gay.how stupid
& why the fuck are you talking about real combat sports, wrestling dont CLAIM to be sport. combat sports are gay to by your logicbtw.
you win nothing, you'r just saying the same thing.
it doesnt matter that its not real, when they DONT CLAIM to be an actual fight.
thats how simple it is.its entertainment, so the question of real or fake becomes obsolete.
i've referred to "other sports' as i said before, to show how stupid you sound with gay comments. not to say wrestling is a sport. i've also talked about songs and movies
Yes, I'm just repeating the same thing over and over.
Since you say that "wrestlers don't pretend anything."
Could you please answer me this one question with a yes or no answer?
Is the guy being pinned really pinned or is he pretending to be pinned?
And since we agree the fight is fake...I'm not sure what the argument is about. Fake fight says it all to me. You just think fake fighting is cool, so just say it that way and I won't have any problem with it.
Please quote where you answered the question yes or no. Could it be that you don't want to have to admit that the guy being pinned is YES, pretending to be pinned?
Chief...it is a fake fight either way. How would you describe their actions other than fake fighting? Hoola hoop contest? Spelling bee? They fake punch, they fake kick, they fake pin. Fake punching, kicking, and pinning equal fake fighting. Fake fighting is gay. Period. There is no alternative.
It doesn't matter if they claim to be a real fight or not. Their actions are those of a FAKE FIGHT.
See, when you PRETEND to hit someone, when you PRETEND to kick someone, when you PRETEND to pin someone...a reasonable person would conclude that you're PRETENDING to fight.
And I don't like pretend fighting, no matter what it is called.
So you don't know what is going on in the ring? You must not have watched for very long.
Just describe it in the vaguest, simplest terms you're able to come up with. Like...who makes the first move of the match and what did he do? And how did his "opponent" respond?
While we're at it...what does the word "versus" mean to you? They do say that in this show, right? And now, X versus Y! I wonder...could it be that it is a fake fighting contest?
Have you noticed how many times you've repeated my words back to me? I describe something you're doing, and you respond with...."No, you're the one (insert descriptive term here)."
Just thought you might find that amusing like I did.
Do you know what irony is? Falsely putting words indeed. You brought up victory, chief, and I made fun of you for it.
Is the guy being pinned really pinned or is he pretending? Yes or no?
If you can't answer I WIN! YOU LOSE! I'm like 28 year old Hulk Hogan and you're like 65 year old Rick Flair...and besides, no matter what you do, I'm scripted to win.
Oh yeah? I can make up stuff too. You said "you're right, it is fake, i just like fake fighting."
The show is FAKE FIGHTING. Would you watch fake gay man ass sex? They're just performing in a show. No, of course you wouldn't, because it is FAKE GAY MAN ASS SEX. I find fake fighting just as gay and repugnant. You can say it is a show all you want...but the show is pure fake fighting.
yeah, atleast im not desperate to see homosexuality in everything and claiming to "win" youtube conversations
i didnt defend anyone.again puttin words. im not saying being gay is right or wrong. im saying callin someone gay for watching wrestling is as dumb as saying.."dance, song,art is gay"
again,i can say this everytime ;-
its not fake as they are not claiming to fight. they are putting up a show, like movies, theatre, advertisements etc. its not real life, its a show
I never claimed to win, as I know it is meaningless. I challenged you to quote my words and you couldn't.
You accused me of "gay bashing." If that isn't taking the field for homos, I don't know what is.
Pretend I've never seen it. It should be easy for you to pretend. Describe the action to me. Why won't you? You've said "show" about 5 times now. What is in this show?
"At least if I win a victory here it was real. It wasn't predetermined"
clear proof.what you say now? i however, never said whether being gay is right or wrong. gay bashing,as in using gay as an insult to normal people, and normal habits
so you are desperate, and lying.
no its not easy,im no broadcast journalist.
listen to jim ross or gorrilla monsoon...there's nothing gay in them
Well, you did concede my point. I said it was a fake fight, and you agreed. The second quote was in response to you rambling about winning "youtube" victories. It was a subtle gibe at the pre-determined outcome of your fake fights.
Watching grown men pretend to fight is gay. That isn't gay bashing. It is gay as hell. They're FAKING. You could watch real fighters who are just as athletic compete in a SPORT. I find the shit ridiculous myself.
i didnt agree.no excuse,either ways you claimed you win,which i said is ridiculous
no, they arent pretending, as they dont claim to fight.they claim to entertain,put on a show.....and thats called performance, but obviously you'r ignoring this cause you can never come back to that,
so when you'r logic is failed, it doesnt matter what you think is gay as hell.
I can watch real fighters, if i wanted to watch a real fight.
So now you're saying that pro wrestling isn't fake?
If they don't "claim" to be fighting, why do they use terminology borrowed from real combat sports? Ring, match, versus, pinning, etc? What is the (fake) ref for if it isn't supposed to be a (fake) fight?
The performance is fake fighting. That is what they're doing. Please describe what they're doing if it isn't. Fake punching, kicking, pinning equals what in your mind?
its scripted. but since its not a real sport or fight....its an entertainment show business,and any entertainment form is scripted.
also, since the body slams, the blade jobs, the chair shots, the jumping from ropes, the power moves are all legitimately being done,its obviously not fake
What type of scripted entertainment is it? How would you describe what they're doing? Does it really happen?
If you think they're really slamming each other, in the sense of the word in real wrestling, you're sadly deluded. Here's a hint, chief. When you slam someone for real, you don't land on your knees first and use your arms to slam them. Watch a real fight some time and you might learn something, although I'm sure you'd have trouble describing what you learned.
no im not,most moves besides kicks,punches,submissions are really being performed.they are still doing it.
when you land on your back on a wooden mat, you can never be 'completely safe'when you get hit with a chair on you'r forehead,you can never be completely safe.
they arent fighting, as i said so many times. but the moves they are doing to perform are still legit, full contact,
so either ways, it doesnt fit the definition of fakery
When a guy throws you into the ropes, and you slingshot off of them...why do they always run straight back at the guy? It's almost like they're pretending they can't stop.
YEAH, genius, we KNOW its choreographed, its scripted....thats why the guy runs towards him. we know that, as its NOT a real fight. its entertainment.
but then the move being done to him whether its a spinebuster or a knee to the face, that still is full contact and hurts as hell....no faking
Performance art is gay. I don't think you know what performance art is.
More retard bashing. Why do you love faggots but hate the mentally challenged?
Do you and your friends ever just bust out in a spontaneous fake fight? And if you did, and you broke a nail (it was really painful) during it...do you think anyone watching would think it was cool?
So basically...you wouldn't participate in pro wrestling, because you'd feel stupid...but you'd do it in a movie.
Got it. Makes perfect sense. I would have thought that the idea of you and your friends pretending to fight while risking bruised kidneys and pulled groins would have appealed to you.
Do you ever watch guys pretend to fish? Pretend to play baseball? How about pretend to drive? Vrrrrrrrooooom.........eeeeeeerrrrrrrrskk....crash.
pro wrestling IS the movie (for people, who dont understand the purpose of entertainment or art) where they are portraying characters in athletic entertainment.
they are not claiming to fight, so fighting with my friends or not is just ridiculous.
pro wrestling isnt fighting, its athletic entertainment,
and they arent pretending anything as people already know they're a show business.
So if thousands of people came to an arena to watch men wearing armor fight with harmless swords...you wouldn't say that those people came for the purpose of watching fake combat? What are they there for then? It seems with pro wrestling fans lack of discretion you could just as easily be happy at a Celine Dion concert. It is just entertainment...who cares about content. Derrrhhh.
Only if they CLAIMED that they ARE REALLY fighting, but in actuality they arent..thenofcourse i will
but if thousands gathered in the same situation in a MOVIE SET,then NO. cause thats the purpose of the movie
nope, everyone cares about content, someone who dances doesnt necessarily love singing. someone who watches action movies doesnt necessarily love comedy. logic fail again
I think you're confused. The topic is pro wrestling, not movie sets. Is it your contention that pro wrestling matches are in fact movie sets? If it isn't, shut up about it. It has no bearing.
So what attracts you to pro wrestling over other forms of entertainment?
the wrestlers still sacrifice their bodies for us, everyday they take VERY REAL unimaginable pain in the ring, thats not fakery...the injuries are all real...and its disrespectful to them
The entertainment value is two men pretending to fight. They pretend kick, they pretend punch, they pretend win. If you took that away, there is nothing left.
If it were not fake fighting, they wouldn't use a ring. They wouldn't fake punch. They wouldn't fake kick. There wouldn't be a fake ref. They wouldn't call it a "match." They wouldn't use the terms versus.
Well, for one...nice Harry Potter reference. Jesus Christ. Secondly, if real wizards existed, and you chose to watch that stupid movie over dealing with the Wizards in some way...well, you'd be just as much of an idiot.
Wizards don't exist. Real combat sports do. Pretend wizards are all we have. We have much more than pretend fighters.
lol you'r amusing. do we really have to go to whether wizards exist now. you'r so stubborn, you miss the actual substance.
its like accusing that an actor is faking.
like de caprio faking to be jack in titanic (cause he wasnt really even born in 1910) or marlon brando faking being godfather as he never committed any crime
childish. .,,,how can entertainment be fake when its....entertainment
Yes, he was faking. Please describe another way a man alive in 1998 or so portrays a man in the early 20th century.
He pretended to be the guy. See, thats why they hired him. Now, assuming the guy he portrayed was real, and still alive...you'd be a moron to choose watching the movie over actually talking to the real man.
There are real combat sports. You choose to watch the fake one.
so you mean an actor is a faker? like real life theives, bootleggers, bank forgers etc?isnt that stupid, cause acting is his job
& you are a moron to think watching the movie is stupid,,,cause the purpose is entertainment. yup
and also as i explained before, wrestlers are still doing moves in the ring, that legitimately takes practice and hurts...thats performing, just like an actor is acting...thats not called fake in this world
Yes, you are confused. Believing that an actor engaged in a rape scene is a rapist would necessarily lead to believing that a "pro wrestler" actor engaged in a fight scene is a real fighter.
as for stunts...difference is getting injured in a stunt is accident (and the injuryreally happening, not fake), but in wrestling, its the purpose..you will get hurt everytime you step in the ring (& again, the moves & injuries are really happening)
you'r talking about stupid calims,when you said acting is gay , song is gay, dance is gay, art is gay.....fuckin genius!
& so,...i dont need to explain anything again, i've said this countless times, i've showed the difference countless times, its you'r fault if you'r too dumb t understand
So if I walk around wearing a robe and a crown...carrying a scepter...no one could say I was pretending to be king? I was just putting on a show. The show is some strange entity that exists unto itself. The actions within the show mean nothing.
@sayanroy36 Amazing to see so many quotes on an old wrestling match, but even more astonishing is the fact that most of the comments came from two guys! The thing that amazed me most was that in all your comments to RandytheAstonishing, you never once asked him the obvious question: If he hated wrestling so much and thought it was so fake, why the hell did he want to watch a video of it on YouTube in the first place? Not looking to engage you in an argument, just curious.
@elc1960 lol it was all in the span of a day(couple hours for that matter). i pretty much was having a boring afternoon and the troll lightened it up if i remember correctly....
& trolls are trolls,they'll come up with bs no matter how wise a fact you state, a question you ask
@sayanroy36 LOL - OK, Troll Avenger - I'll sleep safer at night knowing that people like you are out there on YouTube protecting the rights of the average folk. Ahhhhhh, who am I kidding? YouTube is like the wild west, totally a playground for the trolls like Randy who spew their crap. Just have fun with 'em. Cheers, dude!
lol even if this was meant to be sarcastic, remember my point was its not like i dedicated part of my life posting-reposting with the guy.it was just the product of a couple hours of a boring afternoon, case closed
I wonder if this match was before or after the ear incident ?
wheatbull 2 months ago
Fake now, fake then. ROFLMAO...
TheAxeman64 2 months ago
@TheAxeman64
Here's another secret revealed
Movies are fake
Truly shocking right?
SolidMike84 4 weeks ago
@SolidMike84 ...and your point being????
TheAxeman64 3 weeks ago
@TheAxeman64
Pretty much how obsolete that comment is, it's right up there with "Santa's not real, son."
Everyone knows the deal with pro wrestling, but still enjoys it despite it not being 100% real
Just as you enjoy movies, despite them not being real
SolidMike84 3 weeks ago
@SolidMike84 You ASS-U-ME I enjoy movies. Do you constantly troll YouTube trying to put people down for their comments? Does it make you feel superior? Methinks you are a bit defensive and embarrassed that you're a wrestling fan. Everyone does not enjoy wrestling and I'm sure some of your fellow fans think it is real.
TheAxeman64 3 weeks ago
@TheAxeman64
So you do NOT watch movies?
Nope and nope, some people one can actually agree with
No trolling, but do keep on believing that since that must be the case with everyone that comments on your comment
More tired of "fake" comments when it's commanly known that it's not a 100% real
It's been a long time since I cared what anyone thinks about my entertainments kid/sir/mam/girl, but thanks for the analysis Freud
SolidMike84 3 weeks ago
@TheAxeman64
No really?
And here I thought it was universally loved, like Bieber
SolidMike84 3 weeks ago
@TheAxeman64 Do you constantly troll pro-wrestling vids? Does it make you feel a better man/kid? Methinks you are a bit stupid and ignorant to see the big pic of wrestling.I think its real,cause i haven't experienced otherwise.
SuperDUDERIKI 1 week ago
@SuperDUDERIKI Pffft. I fart in your general direction, boy.
TheAxeman64 6 days ago
@TheAxeman64 Same goes to you,boi.
SuperDUDERIKI 6 days ago
notice the ring annoucer...."...Yukon EARICK!!" lol!!!!
jaxbeachguitars 4 months ago
I swear the announcer introduced him as 'Yukon Ear-ic'
spiritof1978 6 months ago
@spiritof1978 that's what i said ! on that note, wasn;t it yukon that got his cauliflower ear popped almost clean off by a kowalski kneedrop in montreal? i'm pretty sure it was, which would make this intro funny as hell.
jdbankshot 4 months ago
@spiritof1978 never mind... i'm such a yutz sometimes, i posted my comment while the vid was paused at 1 minute, 5 seconds later the play by play guy confirms it... sorry to waste your time.
jdbankshot 4 months ago
POLAND!!!
ziutek9019 7 months ago 11
What a buzz to see old Killer after all these years. US wrestling fans may not know that he came to Australia and was a big star in the mid-60s with his famous claw hold. I am sure he was completel;y cracker. But, boy, could he play the bad guy!
SvendBosanvovski 8 months ago
what an awesome reaction at 3:21
mmmikeyxx 8 months ago
Polish Power -> Ivan Putski but Kowalski is also Polish Power
GawinMagnus 8 months ago
uh oh theres gonna be a hasslllllle
biffvonwrinkle 10 months ago
is this the one where Yukon loses a chunk of his ear???
andycf87 11 months ago
Yukon Eric doesn't like armdrags, so he doesn't take them. If only the commentators of Hogan's day were that straightforward about pinfalls.
Inediblehulk 11 months ago 2
キラー・コワルスキーＶＳユーコン・エリック－－あの伝説の試合とは違うんですね、今回は
ジャーマン崩れのダブルフォールとは、レイスがフレアーからＮＷＡタイトル奪い返した試合を思い出すなあ
イワン・コロスがモラレスにＷＷＷＦベルトを取られたのもこのパターンでしたっけ？
mujushinken 11 months ago
Anybody have the riped ear match ?
thanhbites 11 months ago
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thanhbites 11 months ago
isn,t Killer Kowalski is the one who trained triple H ??
ahackerjack 1 year ago
@ahackerjack Yes he was - and he also trained Big John Studd, Chyna and Chris Kanyon, among others.
elc1960 1 year ago
Polish Power!
Adrivius 1 year ago
@Adrivius zgadzam się w 100%
TheBykoo 11 months ago
good match
kevinhardy 1 year ago
The guy at 2:43 looks like something that fell outta my asshole this morning.
yimpka 1 year ago
Wow. You should see a doctor.
Costrichegg 1 year ago
@Costrichegg
I'd rather tongue your crack.....clean!
Cholly59 1 year ago
@Cholly59 That's okay. I'm good.
Costrichegg 1 year ago
2:43 - Gandhi sure loved it... and wow this was shitty lol
enko1990 1 year ago
Continuing...
Do you guys get excited over matches? Of course you do. Otherwise, why would you watch? Oooh, Brokeback Jack is going to take on the Gooch...who will win? Who will win?
So basically you idiots get excited over a fixed match. This is really your biggest shortcoming...just imagine you sitting there, in a sweat, wondering who will win...oh, the drama, the drama...when the promoter decided who will win 2 weeks back.
So I'm sure you can see how you'd be perceived as homos.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
do you get excited over matches?
jeez dumbass, so anytime a human being gets excited to sports and entertainment....he's gay?
well thats 90% of america then..you realize how stupid you sound jackass?
overprotective of your own homosexuality.....embrace it boy,bashing others wont help
for the next part moron, atleast TRY TO READ what i said,
fans know its scripted. how can they be fake when they didnt claim to be a sport?
how can entertainment be fake?
& how dumb are you?
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Sports aren't fixed. Pro Wrestling isn't a sport, it is performance art...as you already admitted. The outcome of a pro wrestling match is pre-determined...what is sporting about that?
I like how you alternatively defend queers and then try to call me one. Say, jackass...who watches sweaty men in tights pretend to fight?
So you know it is scripted...how can you become excited over a predetermined outcome? Where is the suspense?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
firstly,why are you arguing thendumbass? fans ALREADY KNOW wrestling is scripted. they never claim to be real sport. we watch wrestling, not for actual competition, but rather for everything i said in my first post. love for business, daredevil athletes & the complete entertainment.
i dont need to defend anyone
any fuckin sport has sweaty men on tights.90% of america loves sport. not everyone is gay.
see how stupid you'r argument is?
only gays see gayness in everything.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
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@sayanroy36
Man you're fucking stupid. I'm going to quote your own words.
"they never claim to be real sport"
"any fuckin sport has sweaty men on tights"
So...it isn't a sport, but it is a sport? Which is it, idiot?
Pro wrestling isn't a sport. It never has been. Your appeals to the majority have no meaning since pro wrestling isn't a sport, therefore it is irrelevant what other people believe about real sports.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
I like how you are so ignorant that you can't even be consistent. Your own words...
" they never claim to be real sport"
"any fuckin sport has sweaty men on tights"
Said in the same post. So is it a sport, or isn't it?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
they never claim to be sport. they are entertainment.thats why no point claiming they are fake.
now you say how gay watching sweaty men in tights is. so i point how, sports...something MOST normal human beings watch also has sweaty men in tights. so your logic is as dumb as your gay bashing
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
You keep saying "other sports." Pro wrestling isn't a sport, so "other sports" have no relevance. Is that hard to understand? You and the sweaty gay herd are alone in this fight.
Other sweaty men in tights are actually competing...in a real sport. You watch for the outcome, for the excitement of the unknown. There is no unknown in wrestling, there is no real contest.
Pretty simple.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
it DOESN'T MATTER if its a sport or not. if watching sweaty men on tv makes you gay,then 90% of the world is gay as they watch sweaty men on tv one way or the other
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
You keep repeating yourself...but no one said sweaty men are gay. Just sweaty men who PRETEND to fight.
You've found a straw man and you're running with it for all you're worth, aren't you? Too bad I know what distinguishes you...that it is FAKE.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
yeah and you repeated the same thing too moron
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Ooh, the dreaded "I know you are but what am I" defense.
Keep telling everyone how intelligent you are with your spelling/grammar mistakes an 8 year old wouldn't make.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
lol im not trying to sound anything, remember im arguing with someone who thinks dancing and what not is gay. which people in my world will find quite amusing.
& btw this is youtube, not harvard law...no one cares about spelling mistakes, thats the biggest cliche of them all.atleast my posts has substance.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
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RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
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@sayanroy36
Why won't you answer this question?
If you say...
"wrestlers, arent pretending anything"
Then is the guy being pinned really being pinned? Or is he...pretending?
You're right...no one cares about spelling...unless you're telling everyone how intelligent you are. If you weren't the smartest guy here and proud of it then I wouldn't have mentioned your unnumerable spelling/grammar mistakes. It just seems odd in such an intelligent, educated guy.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
& gaybashing wont help you cure your own homosexuality retard, you'll still be a fag, no matter how much you pretend to 'hate' it.
only fags like you try to find gayness in everything they see.desperate attempts & sums up you'r level of intelligent conversation
How can it be fake when they dont claim to be a sport. its showbiz, entertainment moron.
but the performances are all real & needs tremendous sacrifice & bloodshed
something retards like you will never have
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
You're saying the same shit over and over, moron.
Aren't you the one who defended homos? Are you for them or against them?
Ballet is gay. Dancing is gay. Performance art is gay. It follows then that pro wrestling is homosexual.
Not hard to understand...Just come out and admit it. You like watching sweaty, muscly men in tights pretending to fight. You're fine with homos, right? So it shouldn't be a big deal to admit what you really are.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
WOW JEEZ.
and arent you saying everything over and over again?
what the fuck is wrong with you boy?
yeah....sweaty men in tights? yeah checks out for most sports.
im sure you think sport is gay too?
well guess what, 90% of normal human beings who watch sports....and entertainment,dont think they are gay.
too sensitive about your own fuckin sexuality huh? people called you gay?
'dance is gay, performance art is gay.."
do i need to point out how retarded troll this sounds?
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Copying what I say to you is probably the easiest way for you to appear intelligent.
Pro wrestling isn't a sport...so what other sports do or don't do matters not a bit. Why do you say on one hand that it "isn't a sport" yet keep referring to other sports as if it were equal to them? Women's field hockey is a sport. Pro wrestling is fake shit for morons.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
yes,it does matter kid,dont try to be a smartass.
i already explained why it matters.
again for you retard - if watching sweaty men makes you gay, then 90% normal men who watch athletes on tv are gay.
you'r that stupid.
copying you? ha you'r the desperate retard who finds gayness in everything. im not inconsistent kid,im crystal clear at what im saying, you'r the retard whose too dumb to understand
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Watching sweaty men PRETEND is what makes you gay.
If football were fake...if the outcome was pre-determined...if every play was known to the other team...would it be a real sport?
No...and it would be gay.
Not knowing the difference between your and you're is the easiest way for you to show your intellectual prowess.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
oh way thanks for being specific dumbass.
wrestlers, arent pretending anything. the outcome is fixed...the bumps they take are mostly real...cant fake a powerbomb or a chairshot. period.
also they arent pretending anything, as its entertainment...and fans know that
i bet you watch movies dumbass, which has a lot of sweaty men sluggin it out.
yeah people who watch that is all gay.....ridiculous troll
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So when someone pins the other one...they're not faking? They're not allowing themselves to be pinned because the promoter told them to?
Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
oh wow so specific. read what i said, "the outcome is fixed, the bumps (that is moves they do) are mostly real" and takes great athleticism
& also, since its entertainment, not sport...and they are not claiming to be, they arent fooling anyone...so they arent faking, pinning is only part of a 'show.'
logic will be strong if you learnt to read & understand.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
You said this...
"wrestlers, arent pretending anything"
I then asked you if when a wrestler is pinned, is he faking being pinned? For some reason, you didn't want to answer.
I don't watch "shows." I don't watch pretend sports. I watch real sports, where the best man (usually) wins...not who is most popular or who can kiss the most promoter ass.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
no, i said wrestlers arent pretending anything as ..when an actor dies in a movie,he isnt really dying, he's acting...pointing that out is stupid. thats what show business is all about
and why are you saying "pretend sport". they dont pretend to be a sport. its
no secret they are entertainment and showbiz..period.
& you watching real sport makes you gay by your logic,as you said "watching sweaty men on tv" makes you gay!
also you avoided whether you watch movies?gay
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Are you going to answer the question or not?
If wrestlers "aren't pretending," then what is the guy being pinned doing? Really being pinned or...pretending? Well?
I never said watch sweaty men on tv makes you gay. I said watch sweaty men pretend to fight makes you gay. Just like watching sweaty men pretend to play football would be gay. Of course, real football exists so we're spared that fate.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
i already said the outcome is fixed. cause they never claim to be a sport. its entertainment, and in entertainment its their job to get pinned, depending on a lot of factors.
so when an actor dies in a movie.....is he a faker? a phony? or is he just doing his art? answer that.any art is part of mastering the illusion of the world.
& yes you did. exact words, plus you never answered whether you watch movies or not? cause thats not sport and makes you gay too
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Art is gay. Art is grown men pretending to do something instead of really doing it. Since I can watch real combat sports, I have no need to watch fake ones.
You still haven't answered the question. Is the guy being pinned PRETENDING or not? A yes or no answer will work fine.
Acting has nothing to do with this. If you made signs and went and screamed for one guy in a movie fight while it was filmed, that would be equally gay. Say it wouldn't...I dare you.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
no. why dont you first answer whether you watch movies or not? and next time when an actor dies in a movie,go ask someone is he a faker? a phony?laughable.
thats the same job of the wrestler. cause its art, entertainment.
acting, has everything to do with it. dont try to be smart,as acting is also an art.and you think art is gay.how stupid
& why the fuck are you talking about real combat sports, wrestling dont CLAIM to be sport. combat sports are gay to by your logicbtw.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
I've already answered about whether I watch movies. You just lack the reading comprehension necessary to have seen it.
My point was that wrestling is fake and gay. Since you now admit it is fake and gay, it seems you have conceded my point.
I'm talking about "real combat sports" because pro wrestling is a "fake combat sport." It isn't hard to understand?
Is the guy being pinned pretending or not? Yes or no?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
lol i never admitted wrestling is fake and gay.
desperate to put words in my mouth?sounds like a no-lifer, desperate for 'youtube victory' to me
you are the one who doesnt have the reading comprehension to understand the diff. between fake and entertainment.
pro wrestling dont claimed to be a sport so you'r fighting the wind, stupid.
in the course of this, you were the one who said things like..."dancing is gay, performance is gay, art is gay' making a joke outta yourself
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
At least if I win a victory here it was real. It wasn't predetermined.
Is the fight fake or real? If I counterfeit currency...for entertainment...does that make the bills any less fake?
Is the fight fake or real? It doesn't matter that you're entertained by it...it is a fake fight.
You've consistently referred to "other sports" in some sort of attempt to justify a fake sports actions. So obviously you believe it is a sport.
Performance art is gay. Go pretend.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
you win nothing, you'r just saying the same thing.
it doesnt matter that its not real, when they DONT CLAIM to be an actual fight.
thats how simple it is.its entertainment, so the question of real or fake becomes obsolete.
i've referred to "other sports' as i said before, to show how stupid you sound with gay comments. not to say wrestling is a sport. i've also talked about songs and movies
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Yes, I'm just repeating the same thing over and over.
Since you say that "wrestlers don't pretend anything."
Could you please answer me this one question with a yes or no answer?
Is the guy being pinned really pinned or is he pretending to be pinned?
And since we agree the fight is fake...I'm not sure what the argument is about. Fake fight says it all to me. You just think fake fighting is cool, so just say it that way and I won't have any problem with it.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
i already answered that, more than once.its you;r fault that you'r too stubborn to understand the difference.
they are not faking simply because they DONT claim to be a real fight.
thats the point of entertainment. thats the point of performers...you do realize most things on tv is fake, if art is fake?
again, you never read.
The FIGHT is not FAKE. as they NEVER claimed to be a fight. that simple/
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Please quote where you answered the question yes or no. Could it be that you don't want to have to admit that the guy being pinned is YES, pretending to be pinned?
Chief...it is a fake fight either way. How would you describe their actions other than fake fighting? Hoola hoop contest? Spelling bee? They fake punch, they fake kick, they fake pin. Fake punching, kicking, and pinning equal fake fighting. Fake fighting is gay. Period. There is no alternative.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
its not a fake fight as they dont claim to be a fight.
here's a quote ;-
they are not faking simply because they DONT claim to be a real fight.
thats the point of entertainment. thats the point of performers.
so the guy getting pinned, isnt claiming in real life he lost a legitimate fight.
they dont claim to be a fight.
he's getting pinned as part of a show, just like actors die in movies
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
It doesn't matter if they claim to be a real fight or not. Their actions are those of a FAKE FIGHT.
See, when you PRETEND to hit someone, when you PRETEND to kick someone, when you PRETEND to pin someone...a reasonable person would conclude that you're PRETENDING to fight.
And I don't like pretend fighting, no matter what it is called.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
no. they arent pretending anything,. cause its not real life. its show, art, entertainment,..and thats thepurpose of entertainment.
i can keep saying this all day moron.
and as i said, most of the moves are legit.you cant fake a bodyslam.
fake is when you claim to be real. they dont, they are performing...the performance is legit
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Pretend I've never seen it. Describe the action to me.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
This is a hard one, huh?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
no its a stupid one.firstly you'r asking me to do this and prove that...very amusing.
im not a broadcast journalist,i cant explain a wrestling match
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So you don't know what is going on in the ring? You must not have watched for very long.
Just describe it in the vaguest, simplest terms you're able to come up with. Like...who makes the first move of the match and what did he do? And how did his "opponent" respond?
While we're at it...what does the word "versus" mean to you? They do say that in this show, right? And now, X versus Y! I wonder...could it be that it is a fake fighting contest?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Have you noticed how many times you've repeated my words back to me? I describe something you're doing, and you respond with...."No, you're the one (insert descriptive term here)."
Just thought you might find that amusing like I did.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
not repeating,thats showing how contradicting you are...falsely putting words in my mouth, and saying hypocritical things.
talk about amusing....you'r childish claims of "i win!!' is amusing to me.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Do you know what irony is? Falsely putting words indeed. You brought up victory, chief, and I made fun of you for it.
Is the guy being pinned really pinned or is he pretending? Yes or no?
If you can't answer I WIN! YOU LOSE! I'm like 28 year old Hulk Hogan and you're like 65 year old Rick Flair...and besides, no matter what you do, I'm scripted to win.
Hint: sarcasm.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
you said these words "you lost" you said "atleast i win".
is it that hard to understand? they arent faking, as people know the 28year old hogan is NOT legitimately combating 65 year old flair.
they are performing in a show.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Oh yeah? I can make up stuff too. You said "you're right, it is fake, i just like fake fighting."
The show is FAKE FIGHTING. Would you watch fake gay man ass sex? They're just performing in a show. No, of course you wouldn't, because it is FAKE GAY MAN ASS SEX. I find fake fighting just as gay and repugnant. You can say it is a show all you want...but the show is pure fake fighting.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
yeah jeez, dumbass going back to being aggressive (and more stupid) huh? well i can be aggressive too bitch.
fake fighting? no bitch. they fuckin dont claim to be a fight. a fuckin 6year oldknows that, so you'r dumb to bring in the word fake.
gay mansex?
oh yeah,perfect answer from a desperate loser, who thinks dance,music, art are gay...you need a psychiatrist retard
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Oh man, I felt the aggression in that post. It's like the letters jumped out and stomped the mat while pretending to punch me.
So you defend homosexuals but you use the mentally disabled as an insult? Well...I'm sure that doesn't mean anything. Homo.
Fake punching, kicking, and pinning equal fake fighting. How would you describe their actions otherwise?
Pretend I've never seen it and tell me what they do. And don't say 'they put on a show.' Be descriptive.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
yeah, atleast im not desperate to see homosexuality in everything and claiming to "win" youtube conversations
i didnt defend anyone.again puttin words. im not saying being gay is right or wrong. im saying callin someone gay for watching wrestling is as dumb as saying.."dance, song,art is gay"
again,i can say this everytime ;-
its not fake as they are not claiming to fight. they are putting up a show, like movies, theatre, advertisements etc. its not real life, its a show
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
I never claimed to win, as I know it is meaningless. I challenged you to quote my words and you couldn't.
You accused me of "gay bashing." If that isn't taking the field for homos, I don't know what is.
Pretend I've never seen it. It should be easy for you to pretend. Describe the action to me. Why won't you? You've said "show" about 5 times now. What is in this show?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
here's you'r quotes :-
"it seems you have conceded my point."
"At least if I win a victory here it was real. It wasn't predetermined"
clear proof.what you say now? i however, never said whether being gay is right or wrong. gay bashing,as in using gay as an insult to normal people, and normal habits
so you are desperate, and lying.
no its not easy,im no broadcast journalist.
listen to jim ross or gorrilla monsoon...there's nothing gay in them
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Well, you did concede my point. I said it was a fake fight, and you agreed. The second quote was in response to you rambling about winning "youtube" victories. It was a subtle gibe at the pre-determined outcome of your fake fights.
Watching grown men pretend to fight is gay. That isn't gay bashing. It is gay as hell. They're FAKING. You could watch real fighters who are just as athletic compete in a SPORT. I find the shit ridiculous myself.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing |
i didnt agree.no excuse,either ways you claimed you win,which i said is ridiculous
no, they arent pretending, as they dont claim to fight.they claim to entertain,put on a show.....and thats called performance, but obviously you'r ignoring this cause you can never come back to that,
so when you'r logic is failed, it doesnt matter what you think is gay as hell.
I can watch real fighters, if i wanted to watch a real fight.
not a show, a performance entertainment.simple
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So now you're saying that pro wrestling isn't fake?
If they don't "claim" to be fighting, why do they use terminology borrowed from real combat sports? Ring, match, versus, pinning, etc? What is the (fake) ref for if it isn't supposed to be a (fake) fight?
The performance is fake fighting. That is what they're doing. Please describe what they're doing if it isn't. Fake punching, kicking, pinning equals what in your mind?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
oh jeez,after 100s of posts you'r asking me this?
its scripted. but since its not a real sport or fight....its an entertainment show business,and any entertainment form is scripted.
also, since the body slams, the blade jobs, the chair shots, the jumping from ropes, the power moves are all legitimately being done,its obviously not fake
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
What type of scripted entertainment is it? How would you describe what they're doing? Does it really happen?
If you think they're really slamming each other, in the sense of the word in real wrestling, you're sadly deluded. Here's a hint, chief. When you slam someone for real, you don't land on your knees first and use your arms to slam them. Watch a real fight some time and you might learn something, although I'm sure you'd have trouble describing what you learned.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
no im not,most moves besides kicks,punches,submissions are really being performed.they are still doing it.
when you land on your back on a wooden mat, you can never be 'completely safe'when you get hit with a chair on you'r forehead,you can never be completely safe.
they arent fighting, as i said so many times. but the moves they are doing to perform are still legit, full contact,
so either ways, it doesnt fit the definition of fakery
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So if you pretend to punch someone, and they pretend to punch you back...what just happened?
Would it be a pretend fight?
Most moves are not being performed, because most of them are completely impractical and the rest would result in frequent deaths.
You're watching two men pretend. Just admit it. I'm not sure how you can justify watching two men pretend to hit each other.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
When a guy throws you into the ropes, and you slingshot off of them...why do they always run straight back at the guy? It's almost like they're pretending they can't stop.
Sounds pretty cool.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
YEAH, genius, we KNOW its choreographed, its scripted....thats why the guy runs towards him. we know that, as its NOT a real fight. its entertainment.
but then the move being done to him whether its a spinebuster or a knee to the face, that still is full contact and hurts as hell....no faking
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
But the entertainment is two guys pretending to fight, right? Let's just get that clear.
Could you share some video of a "full contact knee to the face?" I'd like to see how much air I can spot between the knee and his face.
Do you know what pulling a punch means?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
i already said BESIDE kicks, punches and submissions, any wrestling match will have plenty of moves that actually hurts your front or back.
l
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So you ignore all that stupid fake, pretend stuff they do on the offchance that they might bruise a kidney?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
thats a retarded way of looking at things.but then again what can you expect from someone who says "art is gay"
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Performance art is gay. I don't think you know what performance art is.
More retard bashing. Why do you love faggots but hate the mentally challenged?
Do you and your friends ever just bust out in a spontaneous fake fight? And if you did, and you broke a nail (it was really painful) during it...do you think anyone watching would think it was cool?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
i never said i loved this or hated that. you sound like a retard, thats why i said that.
no one in their right mind will say "dance is gay, art is gay..etc etc"
thats bullshit
the second para needs no explanation, as MILLIONS of people regularly watch pro wrestling, so it doesnt matter if you think its uncool
as for fake or not..lol thats been explained a million times
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
"Dance" is gay. Regular people dancing isn't. Do you go to ballet recitals? Do you tap dance? Why not?
Do you and your friends ever fake fight?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
the dance part made no sense.
will i fakely fight my friend in real life? no
if i were to do a movie,inside which my character has to fight? YES
thats the difference
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So basically...you wouldn't participate in pro wrestling, because you'd feel stupid...but you'd do it in a movie.
Got it. Makes perfect sense. I would have thought that the idea of you and your friends pretending to fight while risking bruised kidneys and pulled groins would have appealed to you.
Do you ever watch guys pretend to fish? Pretend to play baseball? How about pretend to drive? Vrrrrrrrooooom.........eeeeeeerrrrrrrrskk....crash.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
nope. fail logic.
pro wrestling IS the movie (for people, who dont understand the purpose of entertainment or art) where they are portraying characters in athletic entertainment.
they are not claiming to fight, so fighting with my friends or not is just ridiculous.
pro wrestling isnt fighting, its athletic entertainment,
and they arent pretending anything as people already know they're a show business.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So if thousands of people came to an arena to watch men wearing armor fight with harmless swords...you wouldn't say that those people came for the purpose of watching fake combat? What are they there for then? It seems with pro wrestling fans lack of discretion you could just as easily be happy at a Celine Dion concert. It is just entertainment...who cares about content. Derrrhhh.
How would you describe what happened then?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
Only if they CLAIMED that they ARE REALLY fighting, but in actuality they arent..thenofcourse i will
but if thousands gathered in the same situation in a MOVIE SET,then NO. cause thats the purpose of the movie
nope, everyone cares about content, someone who dances doesnt necessarily love singing. someone who watches action movies doesnt necessarily love comedy. logic fail again
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
I think you're confused. The topic is pro wrestling, not movie sets. Is it your contention that pro wrestling matches are in fact movie sets? If it isn't, shut up about it. It has no bearing.
So what attracts you to pro wrestling over other forms of entertainment?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
ofcourse,its just another branch of art and entertainment. just like movies.
thats what i said from the first. its not real fighting, so the question of fakery doesnt matter.
why are you asking me?ask millions of people worldwide who love pro wrestling
you'r logics are getting as stupid as it can get
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So just say you are entertained by two men pretending to fight and we have no argument.
How dare you make fun of my logics.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Can't you just say...I like fake fighting?
It is really simple. They PRETEND to fight. Their actions imitate real combat sports. That is what it is. Accept it.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
NO .....two reasons.
its entertainment. NOT sport.
so no point saying if its fake or not.
point 2 :-
the wrestlers still sacrifice their bodies for us, everyday they take VERY REAL unimaginable pain in the ring, thats not fakery...the injuries are all real...and its disrespectful to them
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
The entertainment value is two men pretending to fight. They pretend kick, they pretend punch, they pretend win. If you took that away, there is nothing left.
If it were not fake fighting, they wouldn't use a ring. They wouldn't fake punch. They wouldn't fake kick. There wouldn't be a fake ref. They wouldn't call it a "match." They wouldn't use the terms versus.
Just say you like pretend fighting.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
but you'r missing the point,it doesnt matter what the entertainment up off.
its similar to saying,omg daniel radcliff is faking being harry potter. how stupid is that? thats the whole purpose of art
plus even inside the ring, most moves still hurt and legitimately performed
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Well, for one...nice Harry Potter reference. Jesus Christ. Secondly, if real wizards existed, and you chose to watch that stupid movie over dealing with the Wizards in some way...well, you'd be just as much of an idiot.
Wizards don't exist. Real combat sports do. Pretend wizards are all we have. We have much more than pretend fighters.
Which punch would say is the most painful?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
lol you'r amusing. do we really have to go to whether wizards exist now. you'r so stubborn, you miss the actual substance.
its like accusing that an actor is faking.
like de caprio faking to be jack in titanic (cause he wasnt really even born in 1910) or marlon brando faking being godfather as he never committed any crime
childish. .,,,how can entertainment be fake when its....entertainment
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Yes, he was faking. Please describe another way a man alive in 1998 or so portrays a man in the early 20th century.
He pretended to be the guy. See, thats why they hired him. Now, assuming the guy he portrayed was real, and still alive...you'd be a moron to choose watching the movie over actually talking to the real man.
There are real combat sports. You choose to watch the fake one.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
lol dont be that dumb.
so you mean an actor is a faker? like real life theives, bootleggers, bank forgers etc?isnt that stupid, cause acting is his job
& you are a moron to think watching the movie is stupid,,,cause the purpose is entertainment. yup
and also as i explained before, wrestlers are still doing moves in the ring, that legitimately takes practice and hurts...thats performing, just like an actor is acting...thats not called fake in this world
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So the punches are real?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
nope. but a bodyslam is
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So they're faking the punches?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
no they are performing an act of entertainment.
if you'r gonna call that actor a rapist, then yes...but no sane person will.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So the punches are real then?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
i already answered. are you gonna call the actor a rapist?
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Calling an actor a rapist equates to calling a pro wrestler a real fighter. You're confused.
If they're not real punches, and they're not fake punches...what are they?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
nope im not confused. that was my intention to make things more clear. i've replied to that.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Yes, you are confused. Believing that an actor engaged in a rape scene is a rapist would necessarily lead to believing that a "pro wrestler" actor engaged in a fight scene is a real fighter.
Pretty simple.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing you're wrong they are athletes and some are real fighters especially guys like dick the bruise and fritz von erich!
oldschool6804 8 months ago
@sayanroy36
It is really simple. All you have to say is...
"I find pretend fighting entertaining."
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
you dont break ribs, fracture lungs, bleed, get you'r ear torn off, and even die in pretense
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Stuntmen/actors are injured all the time. Does that make the movie real?
I guess Brandon Lee was a real badass, eh?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
but wrestlers never claim to be real fighters.
as for stunts...difference is getting injured in a stunt is accident (and the injuryreally happening, not fake), but in wrestling, its the purpose..you will get hurt everytime you step in the ring (& again, the moves & injuries are really happening)
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So pro wrestlers, who use a fighting ring, use (pretend) fighting moves, and who declare a victor aren't imitating real fighting?
I have heard some stupid claims today...but this is the biggest.
You're now saying that the intent of pro wrestling is to injure your opponent?
Say...why don't they really punch or kick each other then?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
this is stupid.
you'r talking about stupid calims,when you said acting is gay , song is gay, dance is gay, art is gay.....fuckin genius!
& so,...i dont need to explain anything again, i've said this countless times, i've showed the difference countless times, its you'r fault if you'r too dumb t understand
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
If the point of pro wrestling is to injure, why don't they really punch or kick?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
THE point is to NOT injure, but since most moves are still REALLY happening (NOT fake) hence guys get injured all the time
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
You've got your analogy backwards, by the way. If I thought an actor portraying rape was a rapist, I would think that pro wrestlers are real fighters.
See, I know that the actor is pretending. Just like I know the pro wrestlers are pretending.
You just don't want to admit what it is...pretend fighting. Just like the rape scene is pretend rape.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
no. i dont. thats what i wanted to hear. ofcourse he isnt a real rapist. he's an actor, we wont say he's faking a rape.we will say he's acting.
similarly, the wrestler is doing his performance,there's no pretense, as they dont CLAIM to fight.
also, in pretend fighting people wont bleed and get their ear torn off. thats exactly what happened to yukon against kovalski
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Jackass...his acting is faking a rape. That is the act he is imitating. He is pretending. It isn't really happening.
So you believe pro wrestling is real fighting?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
and we dont call an actor a faker do we? not normal people. as that is art, entertainment, so is pro wrestling
no i dont.
but i believe its REAL athletic entertainment
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
The word actor itself means faker. You don't call him a faker because it is implicit. He is faking emotion.
So it is fake fighting?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
lol thats a literal interpretation.acting is also a REAL PROFESSION.
fake fighting? no, as they dont claim to fight,
they are athletic entertainers, doing REAL athleticism & REALLY getting injured
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
When the actor that play Potter is in costume, on set...being filmed...what is the impression that he is trying to portray?
That he is the actor? Or that he is Harry Potter?
But why are they pretend punching? That is the question, isn't it?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
YAH and thats the purpose of acting. similarly its the purpose of wrestling.
they didnt CLAIM to fight, so no question about fakery.
the pretense that you say is part of an act, a show,....and the show itself is legitimate real
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So if I walk around wearing a robe and a crown...carrying a scepter...no one could say I was pretending to be king? I was just putting on a show. The show is some strange entity that exists unto itself. The actions within the show mean nothing.
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
not, when you'r doing it in a movie, or a wrestling ring....thats a character, only stupid people will mix real life with character.
learn the difference
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
So what exactly are pro wrestlers doing? What kind of a show is it?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
i dont need explain anymore
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
Hurtful.
So what exactly are pro wrestlers doing? What kind of a show is it?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
lol,werent you accusing me of repeating things an hour back?its a tough question,
you'll understand it only once you've deciphered the meaning of life
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36
"You don't have to destroy your enemy, just his willingness to engage."
I think that question has done that nicely.
So what exactly are pro wrestlers doing? What kind of a show is it?
RandytheAstonishing 1 year ago
@RandytheAstonishing
lol it took you that long to find a quote lmao.
firstly im not stupid enough to consider a anonymous youtuber an enemy.lmao, someone takin life too seriously
& as you can see, my 'willingness to engage' (lol) is still easily here
secondly, i've already explained you'r question plenty of times, should i bother again? no
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36 Amazing to see so many quotes on an old wrestling match, but even more astonishing is the fact that most of the comments came from two guys! The thing that amazed me most was that in all your comments to RandytheAstonishing, you never once asked him the obvious question: If he hated wrestling so much and thought it was so fake, why the hell did he want to watch a video of it on YouTube in the first place? Not looking to engage you in an argument, just curious.
elc1960 1 year ago
@elc1960 lol it was all in the span of a day(couple hours for that matter). i pretty much was having a boring afternoon and the troll lightened it up if i remember correctly....
& trolls are trolls,they'll come up with bs no matter how wise a fact you state, a question you ask
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36 LOL - OK, Troll Avenger - I'll sleep safer at night knowing that people like you are out there on YouTube protecting the rights of the average folk. Ahhhhhh, who am I kidding? YouTube is like the wild west, totally a playground for the trolls like Randy who spew their crap. Just have fun with 'em. Cheers, dude!
elc1960 11 months ago
@elc1960
lol even if this was meant to be sarcastic, remember my point was its not like i dedicated part of my life posting-reposting with the guy.it was just the product of a couple hours of a boring afternoon, case closed
sayanroy36 11 months ago
@sayanroy36 No, I was only kidding with you. I understand completely.
elc1960 11 months ago
@RandytheAstonishing they really land real punches you're ignorant many shots are stiff especially in the 60's
oldschool6804 8 months ago
@sayanroy36 they aren't actors they put their bodies through hell!
oldschool6804 8 months ago