Navy OCS 23-97 - Awesome Inspection Arms

[redram355]

My college NROTC used Garands during my freshman year. They replaced them with M16s. After handling the M1, the new rifles felt like toys. If I remember correctly, there's a four pound difference.

[fuscian]

@redram355 HAHAHA FAG

[ArabsStank]

HAHA that female on the far right looks like fucking UGLY BETTY!! lol......but honestly that shit was SHARP AS FUCK.....I aint gonna lie. Thumbs up

[crouchje]

She had a tremendous amount of heart and stubborness, gained the trust and admiration of the whole class and the DI's. Most importantly she wanted to be treated as an equal, not a female! Most of my females would quit.

[ArabsStank]

@crouchje How long is Navy OCS? Do you immediately become an officer upon completion?

[crouchje]

@ArabsStank

Yes, 13 weeks +/- a few days you are commissioned an Ensign in the Navy.

[cbrandom]

WTF? Are those M1s? What is this, WWII?

[crouchje]

ROFLMAO - The M1-Garand was used at Pensacola from 1947 - 2007 when the school moved to Newport RI. I do know that in the last year or two they moved to the M16-A2 Service rifle. What a sad day to go from a perfect weapon for close order drill to a weapon with a pistol grip and light weight. Now the only M1-Garands being used in drill are those of the Marine Corps Silent Drill Platoon.

[mukband]

@crouchje false, BYU AFROTC drill team, which BTW just took first place at SCIDM uses M1 Grand Rifles :)

[crouchje]

@mukband Yes you are correct that MANY JROTC units use the M1-Garand albeit many are the light weight plastic ones. My point regarding who still uses M1-Garands was in regards to our active duty military.

Glad to hear your team did so well. So, out of curiosity are you using wood stocks are the plastic stocks with rubber butt plates? Most JROTC teams opt for the plastic and rubber becuase of the inherent cost of maintaining military grade metal and wood.

[mukband]

@crouchje We are not JROTC we are the Air Force ROTC so college and we use full wood stocks with metal but plates, we sand them, and polish them a lot, and the marine DI that inspected us found them perfect

[crouchje]

@mukband OUTSTANDING, I am so glad to hear adults are feeling the pride and pain of the rifle. Contact me via my profile E-mail and I will send you a couple stories I wrote regarding the M1-Garand for my book.

[Clarkecars]

well executed, but whom was the little fat body upfront?

[dunkelfier]

That looked good to me, that's different from how we were taught inspection arms. If my OCS class did that our drill instructor would probably have still told us looked like crap though.

[cbassfishin]

HAHAHAHAHA that girl at the end look scared shitless.

[LCPStud]

Meh... Plt 2081 MCRD SD 1990 was way better.

[crouchje]

Well, that must have been something to watch then.

[primolilla]

@crouchje Yeah it must have been!! LCPStud is 19 now so,,, a little math says he was not even a year old back in 1990. I never found a video of the one he speaks of either. I have my doubts there is anything "way" better than this. Maybe he could provide us all a link to see it instead of leaving a negative comment here.

[crouchje]

You sire are a well articulated man who latches onto the indicators of those demonstrating their immaturity and tells it like it is.

OOHRAH!

[primolilla]

@crouchje Thank you sir. We've exchanged more than a few e-mails, you and I have. A little hint? Minnesota ring a bell?? I'm still pouting and making a small scene that you won't be here in January. Had a partner and former Marine look at your videos. He said,,"Yeah that guy has nothing to offer our program" LOTS of sarcasm in his tone. And yes!!! a damn fine Inspection Arms.

[jmirab]

Was this OCS or AOCS?

[crouchje]

@jmirab

Navy OCS, 1997 in Pensacola FL after the two programs merged in 1994.

[jmirab]

Got it, now it makes sense. The Newport program was not this rigorous.

[mackler]

Truly Amazing!

[commandant15]

i was at navy ocs place for njrotc leadership academy they were intense!

[plcand09]

WOW is all I can say.

[CujoTheMadDawg310]

Hooah

[Whidbeyflyer]

GySgt Crouch-

Thank you for your service.

05-99 Marching in for chow! Teamwork, Discipline!

Trained to kill by Class Drill Instructor GySgt. D. H. Erwin, United States Marine Corps.

[MattBoone68]

thats badass

[jlara36]

Good motivation even though they're Navy. Semper Fidelis

[dsap12]

That's impressive! Are all US Naval Officers basic rifleman after they graduate OCS?

[crouchje]

No, they do not become a basic rifleman. The M1-Garand rifles are non-functioning for rifle fire. The only purpose they serve is to develop discipline, motivation, team work, enthusiasm and esprit de corps in close order drill, the basic foundation of creating a Warrior. Those are intangible qualities that will never be learned in the classroom, only through countless hours of close order drill and the wrath of the D.I. for not being perfect are those qualities developed!

Yut!

[crouchje]

In six years of training recruits (four at PISC), I have only heard a perfect inspection arms about 4 or 5 times. The M1-Garand has a much stronger spring to pull back. Many a drill team modify their springs to reduce the resistance. I assure you all the springs at Navy OCS were unmodified. Considering the weight of the rifle, resistance of the spring and wider grasp of the lower receiver, the M16-A2 service rifle was much easier to teach. I noticed Plt 3045 performance, Awesome!

[a414669]

It wasn't a bad inspection arms by no means. But I have heard a lot tighter inspections arms in person. I also believe there are more steps to be taken with the M16A2. I have only once heard it perfect with about 70 Recruits sending the Bolt home all at once sounded just like one loud bolt going home. Makes me want to cry just thinking about it lol.

[FarrSight]

That looks really good.

[MarkRadar29]

first guy on the left of the DI was a little behind...still a lot better than the best at marine OCS, though

[crouchje]

Thanks for the comment Warrior. It all comes down to two things. How much leeway does the D.I. get with punishment PT and how much freedom does the D.I. have with the schedule. The beauty of Navy OCS at the time I served there was we had tremendous leeway. Most of my classes only got 4-5 weeks of drill time before their drill evaluation. I spent the first 10-20 days just torturing their bodies with IPT. When I got the discipline I wanted, I would then start teaching and begin the positive.

[benjaminsYO]

was that a five count movement, and those are m14 right?

[crouchje]

Those are M1-Garand rifles.

We taught the movement at Navy OCS with six counts, although the M1-Garand rifle drill was actually 5 counts. We also modified some other nuances to closer mirror the M16 drill because the appearance of some movements of the M1-Garand drill look sloppy.

If the M1-Garand rifle was a weapon they would use after OCS we would have taught it correctly but the only purpose of teaching rifle drill at OCS was to teach discipline, drill, teamwork, attention to detail.

[joboy666]

Damn. I was there exactly one year ago. Takes me back.

[chesspnoi]

That was tight! Recruits can't even get that right with the M16A2, expecially with the ditties. I will be emailing you for tips in the future.  Thanks 1stSgt.