2-4 billion cars for 9 billion people? I really hope not. After 20 years of vehicle ownership in New Zealand, I am very happy to now be living in a city (Berlin) where I don't need a vehicle. I bike, walk or take public transport. Instead of more cars, what we need is better public transport and more compact cities which are made for people not cars...
@alackofoxygen89 That type of commute is a reality for most Americans though. On Average Americans live 16 miles from their place of work, that isn't a reasonable bycicle commute distance for most. As for groceries, sure a single person going to the store to buy groceries for themselves for a few days could do that, but for a family. Even groceries for a family of 3 will fill up the trunk of a car, let alone a bike. It's not a reasonable option for most people.
I am glad that Bill Ford loves nature, and wants to make environmentally friendlier cars. One problem is that cars overwhelming use oil, the supply of oil is problematic. Wind and solar provide about half a percent each of the total amount of energy we use. It may take decades before renewables become significant. A future beyond traffic gridlock may require fewer cars, fewer suburbs, more public transit and more car pooling and car sharing and shorter distances to travel.
2. Search "bicycle rush hour Netherlands". That's how you do it. Watch and learn.
3. If we're going to have more people, the obv sol'n is not increased personal transit efficiency, but increased mass transit.
I know this might come as a shock to Americans, but you really don't need a car in some European countries. Cars are just seen as inconvenient and expensive compared to the public transit options, bike & walk.
Would have liked to see some more depth, but I think smart cars and smart traffic guidance systems are a necessity with the population bomb. I do believe there are other alternatives (bikes, walking, etc) but as far as I'm concerned, cars will almost always be the most convenient option. And let's be honest, way too many innocent people are injured or killed due to someone driving recklessly. Instead of forcing people to be smarter (and better drivers), let's just make smarter transportation.
Cars telling me what to do, when to leave, which direction to drive.
What is wrong with everyone. We can FLY, the technology has been available for so long it's ridiculous, all people have to do is make it their focus, demand it, and it will appear.
We have to stop accepting this limited technology, restrictions on our movement around the planet.
None of that was innovative or clever, it's just old boring stuff that has been talked about for years.
Yeah, I'll have a go on that too, soon enough. But it's insane to be talking about cars anymore. For those that want them, great, there'll be loads more room on the roads for you while the rest of us are flying in the air.
It's no more dangerous than cars, safer in fact.
And nobody should consider that ridiculous flying car, (Paul moller) or the stupid bulky jetpacks as our options for personal air travel.
There is far better technology now, all we have to do is demand it.
@AlkPacino I prefer to look up and see the sky instead of flying vehicles thank you. Also, flying takes more energy than driving on the ground and it is therefore more difficult to find a green solution for it.
When it comes to vehicles someone needs to start dedicating the use of composite materials, carbon fiber, and aluminum as the staples of a vehicle. Safety goes up, efficiency goes up, etc.
This talk still offers no solution. The solution is to get off the streets little by little. Leave the streets for essential transport. Build new networks without compromising existing. One solution is over-head PRT systems. Integrated transport systems together with PRT could be a powerful mobility solution. Automated underground systems for cargo while larger bike path networks and electric bike lanes using variable speeds. Ford is incapable of breaking out of the automobile concept.
@axelasdf: srsly. clean it up you chidlish and selfish snot.
You aren't an Island, everything you are, have, and use, is a product of all of the efforts of human kind's contributuions. You owe every human being who came before you every fucking fibre of your being, unquestionably.
The least you can do is not pretend that you aren't fundamentally required to contribute to broader issues all humans face. That attitude is god damned ridiculous.
Every god damned human being born is indebted from the moment they are conceived, they';re indebted to their mothers for carrying them, for nourishing them, to the people who provided the food, shelter, society and stability for your mother to be able to nourish you and carry you to term, to medicine,, to it all.
That you see debt as financial shows how superficial, selfish and shallow your worldview is.
@GraeHall No one owes you anything, financial or otherwise. (Although it's obvious you need help with your manners.) Your assumption of indebtedness shows how totalitarian and dangerous people like you are. You want to control others and dictate their behavior according to your wishes. Here's my gift to you.... a hearty laugh coupled with the middle finger.
What did I do to deserve that? I'm saying, if Ford ruins themselves financially doing what they think is best, it doesn't mean that I owe them ANYTHING. It will ruin my trust in them, and I won't support them. What is wrong with that? What if someone else has a better solution (by my thoughts) and I invest with them in that idea. If I choose poorly, are you required to pay for them screwing up in their (and my) decisions? You need to grow up, Sir. Also, I don't owe anything.
Try not to hate on me for this; I think we need to get working hover boards like in the Uglies series for personal transportation, and if we have that technology then we'll have hover cars too. Personally, I think that would be one of the coolest things in the world.
Ayn Rand would be very upset if she saw this guy apologizing for the success of his great grandfather and his family in creating so much propserity for ordinary people.
Or rather, "Ayn Rand conveniently justifies me being very upset!".
Ayn Rand, how to tell everyone just what kind of person you are, and just what you think of your fellow man. You don't get to have an asshole view, and not look like a fucking asshole. She was an asshole. She appeals to fucking assholes.
Totally within your and her rights to be as such - go for it - but you're still being a fucking asshole.
@GraeHall Chill out and stop using insults instead of real arguments. It is odd to see the great grandson of such a successful man act like creating value for society is not enough of a public service. I suppose it is your right to be rude on the internet.
The grade-separated freeway is the problem. Tolls are necessary, especially during peak usage, and the character of these thoroughfares needs to change to that of a boulevard in more urban areas. More medium- and long-distance travel needs to be accompli
In a nutshell "transportationet" - the Internet of transportation networks, or getting "information highway" down to the real highways - automatic intelligent transportation
This was a great talk, but I do agree car companies need to unite with other area's of life to get one communal solution. That is the hard part, who compromises what to attain the most desirable outcome?
Ranting about him doesn't make any of you any better than he is. There is no perfect problem solver I. The world so move on. Watch the video, and gives us an opinion on how we solve the issues, not the personalities. More talk about Bill Ford and less about growing strain on resources is a waste of time and talent. If nothing else the sheer irony of his perspective is great way to stir public opinion and awareness.
What a looser this guy is. Filled with money and stories, he had the opportunity to change the auto industry but yet didn't. Look at him now, a real humanitarian. Go home jack ass, no one wants to hear your bull shit.
He's got some good ideas. I think that besides attempting to address the problems that may be created by unsustainable population increase, we should also begin considering ways to prevent world population from rising to that level. It's a topic most people tend to close their ears to, but it's the easiest means of preventing many problems from occurring. If that supplements some of this Bill Ford's suggestions, we will end up with a much more efficient world.
dont worry the world will end on 2012 also i dont want a car i cannot drive i want to be in charge of driving even if that means i might be endangered!!1 so stupid i dea of cars driving themselvs
for anyone that has an iPhone, there's a GPS app called Waze, it's basically the same idea. You input your destnation and as you are driving you get notifications, sort of like a social thing where people report accidents, traffic jams, hazards etcetera. So you get this notifications and it asks you if you want to go through another route and to be honest it works fantastic. The best thing is that's free! (this is not an ad, it's me trying to help people)
I didn't notice anything about getting culture to change so that we don't all operate on the 8-to-5 schedules that lead to everyone getting on the road at 7am and 5pm. You know, eliminating RUSH HOURS. We've done in it air traffic control, discouraging having twenty flights try to push out at 8:30am at one airport.
@goneutt It's an admirable thought, and something to work for, but creating that kind of wholesail change in culture itself is more difficult than herding cats.
No problem, whether it's healthcare, homelessness, pollution, etc, will be solved until we understand our greater purpose and the available means with which we can serve it. Everything else is literally a waste of time.
I can't wait for this. No more driving myself somewhere. I can read the news on the way to work or enjoy the view. It'll be much safer, less frustrating, less wasted time, and no more excuses for being late.
@dcjfree Give it 2 years or so. Peak oil was in 2006 and greece is about to trigger 2008 part two. Anyone buying a car now may as well just burn their money cos you're not gonna be able to run it for long.
@danfromabove Peak oil just means that were more than halfway out and mining oil will come at a steadily increasing cost. The average lifespan of a car is only 20 years or so. Gasoline can still be sythesized from biological oil sources.
Your grandfather invented the assembly line to take power away from skilled workers. He didn't want "people" who weren't in his rich guy club to be able to have a decent life because he wanted more than he and "people" like him, could ever use.
Descended from Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone? I say vote this guy for president because of all that heroic blood! Those guys were businesspeople that have revolutionized the world for good and vastly improved the standard of living.
I'd like to see the raised walkways, where you see more car tunnels to keep the cities more clean. Cars will never go away, I'm afraid.
I guess automatic driving cars are the answer, but you'll always have technophobes that wouldn't trust it or those who want to steer manually. All I have to say to that is, "get over it".
Kinda funny how they are trying upgrade transportation, if they would really truly care they would level every city in the world and build proper actual modern city that actually works (which is by the way cheaper). But stupidity has no limits ergo here we are and continue to be. Be at peace world, hope you continue to enjoy your long life without us parasites.
here in montreal you need an hour to get from any part of the city to the center of it using public trans. it takes about 15 minutes to get there in your car.
As a car lover I totally agree. We need all the solutions so that driving can be fun again and not a horrible burden and necessity. I wouldn't mind taking public transport to work 5 days a week if I can drive during the weekends.
Did he mention that his grandfather was opposed to trade unions or minimum wage or employee benefits? Or that his grandfather colluded with the Nazis?
this guy is talking about an evolution while what we need is a Revolution and I still bet that self-driving cars will be the solution by no far than 2030
SUPER - we shall be even more regimented like ants, we shall have our exact where about and plans controlled by a collective ... roll on the future eh? eh? We rush into our own shackles ? Ah, but it will keep economic growth going and feed the planet, and it will only be the abuses of such facilities and powers that present a danger. In reality, ceding privacy for my personal gain in quality of life experience is not so bad ! But let us protect our legal systems against possible abuse !
Roads are just one more government inefficiency. So, privatize roads. Let the free-market solve much of the gridlock problem. Then, as video teleconferencing improves with the rapidly advancing technology, it will be more possible to work from home and do many other things without driving. Those 2 things will do far more than cars that "talk" to each other.
No silver bullet? Sure there is a silver bullet: DON'T DRIVE. There's nothing greener than driving to your grocery store by bike. And buy vegetables grown here, not at other end of the world. Exporting peas and at the same time importing peas from other countries, is there anything more retarded than that? And sure you'll still need a car to travel long distances, but a car has 5 seats, not 1. That would be a traffic reduction of 500%. And by the way, there's no such thing as a "green" car.
I think we should take a leap beyond the cars.... like jetpacks, hovercrafts, maglevs, monorails and many more futurist way of transport.... it'll be more fun than driving a box with wheels...
Great talk, but I'm a little disappointed that he dealt with the issue of over population as if it was just a given, rather than being the actual major problem that needs a solution. It's obviously an issue no one wants to touch. Just work around it, apparently.
since we won't stop reproducing like viruses, is there a travel system that distributes so well that the volume is never felt at any one time? so we could have any size volume and not have constant traffic jams? something more than cars and roads.
but, on top of over-population, I think human behavior is too convergent and conforming that it would hinder such a distribution. even then, there comes a point where even a wide distribution of too many people exceeds a single global capacity anyway.
@xjustamem0ryx There is no danger of over-population in Europe and north America. All the 3 billion extra people over the last 40-50 years come from 3rd world nations due to decreased child death because of aid from, us. We didn't think it through before we went ahead and gave them vaccinations and food, rapidly decreasing child death. If the development of 3rd world nations continues, the population explosion will halt at 9 billion in 2050, and hopefully stay there forever or possibly reverse.
@xjustamem0ryx Yeah. It's very optimistic to say it will happen in 2050. This is only possible if everyone have enough energy and food in 2050. If we don't find a revolutionary solution for our energy problems then we are going to be in big trouble, cause people are going continue to have huge families. If the fusion experiments over this decade turn out to be a success, then our future looks very bright! *crosses fingers*
@fuunguus 'over population' doesn't necessarily mean large numbers. It happens when there are not enough resources to maintain a population of any size, even if it's 5. While the large numbers of people are not in north america and europe,it is where, especially in north america, the majority of resources are being consumed. So it's not just about numbers. We can't just pass the buck to the 3rd world countries and tell them to stop reproducing. We have a responsibility to stop consuming so much.
@fuunguus Europe and NA are already way overpopulated. Those 3 billion people that will be born in 3rd world countries won't be the ones consuming Earth's resources. Contrary to what you believe, they hardly receive any vaccins or food, and child death has *not* been reduced in 3rd world countries. But if each woman still gets 10 babies, 1 or 2 dead babies won't make a difference. The problem lies in lack of education, because every extra child is an extra worker, not an extra mouth to feed.
i used to love cars until i owned one. it's expensive to buy, expensive to run, expensive to ensure. the only thing it's good for is traveling in rain without getting wet. but the stupid thing rots if it rains a lot and it's expensive to repair.
make a chair on wheels that has a roof and doors so i can go to work in rain or snow and convert a 2 lane highway into a 6 or 8 lane highway. all the stinky delivery vehicles can have their own lane or make a delivery grid underground.
Bla bla bla bla blaaa.... Who made the first car that drives by it self ? it was made by Ford? Chevrolet? Dodge? or Nissan? Mitsubishi? Mazda? Nooo!!!!! Google made it First!!! Its a F***ing Shame
Why do we need cars that talk to each other? How about people talk to each other and understand how to drive a car. The license test in America is bullshit and traffic tickets are given out almost exclusively for revenue and not for safety.
Motorbikes are about a three times thinner than cars. Why havent they promoted motorbikes more. I dont understand?? Theyre better for freeing up parking and road congestion. The major downside i see is that they are no good for logistical purposes. Also dislike that the vast majority of people believe riding is unsafe when it really isnt.
I wish there are more talks like these. I just love the idea but it also depends on the roads. In Bangalore, the roads are not planned as good as Dubai or any other city for that matter. We either have "One Ways" or "No Ways". So we gotta have better road systems in order to incorporate this idea. It is inevitable to get stuck in traffic in Bangalore because the road you take is the only road home. Also Bangalore is a small city.
Cars driving themselves should help. Imagine a fleet of cars going 200 KPH, bumper to bumper, without these clumsy meatbags behind the wheel. You should easily increase road capacity by 75% by my uneducated guess.
like a lot of people commenting I felt like this guy is full of shit and that we need public transportation not shit in our cars but I think we need to be more realistic and start small because there are going to be some people who are just not going to embrace public transportation and if these little step help us get to and ideal way of transportation than so be it.
Where I am, I pay nearly £5 (Around $10) just to go a few miles down the road on a bus, they are never on time, they are always unclean, the drivers are assholes, there is always a traffic jam...If you want to fix the problem then invest money into public services because there is clearly no incentive to use it and every incentive on using a car.
@cavakun Bikes (both human powered, electric, and internal combustion) are great at person transportation with no or little cargo payload.
For human powered bicycles, recumbent layout is by far most efficient, and can extend effective range by 30% or more. Bikes are in general good for singel person transport with up to 10-20kg (20-40lbs) of cargo for up to 10-15km (6-9miles), beyond that is for special interest and/or high end equipment. A 1KW electric assist and 1KWh battery gives ~40km range.
@Beeevaaa He does need a good punch in the face. But what I really hate about him is that he had the opportunity to change the auto industry long before now, he had the money to make a real impact, but he didn't. Now he talks like great innovation is his idea. I can't wait till people like him grovel before the great minds of their age.
I feel overpopulation is an issue and that the planet is already overpopulated......am I wrong? It seems so as no one talks about tackling overpopulation but only solutions to the symptons....why is that?
i have read somewhere that even if we all switch to drive the full efficient Prius that additional fuel efficiency would still be less then the emissions that only one person would produce thought his lifetime.
so whats easier, quadruple the efficiency of everything or just make sure that our population does not increase?
china is right with their one child policy, thought i would prefer a 2 child so that we freeze our population growth.
true some nations do not consume resources that they do not have (mostly 3rd wrld) but nations like the US and much of Europe are overpopulated in the sense that they have more people then their land can support. and if the entire world would live under the same conditions then we will have a huge over population problem. right now is not a big deal sense much of the resources used are coming from nations that do not have the ability to use them but as they develop that will change.
@Crazylalalalala With that same logic I say agai, that not all countries are overpopulated, with the sense that having more people that you can support. Only the US have a big problem of overconsuming, overpolluting, overeverything! Most of the countries in Europe do not have this problem, only a few, and only a few in the wolrd. (talkin about developed countries)
the US is not the only problem its simply the largest. The US is probably more self sufficient then most European nations due the significantly larger resource pool.
even if the entire world would have the standard of living of most Europeans we would still need about 3 earths to keep that up. We people are over populating the earth. there is just too many of us to make sure that everyone has the standards that we all want and deserve.
I see huge problems with smart parking mentioned 12:30...other people will steal parking spots manually (perhaps the parking location being allocated is too far away from destination), or reserving a spot hours or even a day in advance causing the whole system to go haywire. Or possibly in another scenario, this system has a HUGE potential to become manipulated by the government: people needing to pay a rate for the parking spot starting the moment you make the parking reservation.
Anything that involves technology/artificial intelligence taking control of a motor vehicle seems a bit risky to me... not that I don't trust it to work right uninterrupted... Its just that people will learn how to hack these self driven cars & program them to drive off a cliff.
I am all for mass transit - except one fact, one that is a deal-breaker for me.
With a self-operated transport, if you are two minutes late to start your trip, you are two minutes late to your destination.
With mass transit, being two minutes late can make you over an hour late at destination, or, in my case, with multiple "legs" of trip, more than three hours, caused by just missing one leg after another and having to wait an hour until the next train/bus/ferry/etc.
you knw you could move closer to work or find other work. but i do agree with you that is a big problem with public transportation but how often does that happen?
I am afraid the former option is not possible - the shortest possible commute still involves a once-an-hour ferry, and I would have to live where a 1-bedroom house costs over $400k.
As for the latter, that would be worse even than the commute, giving up what I am good at and enjoy doing, and what I feel contributes meaningfully.
To answer the latter, for me, about 50% of the days, the other days having me get luckier and catch at least one consecutive leg.
To become close enough to effectively shorten the commute by eliminating unnecessary legs, I would have to live in one of the condo towers right on the Lakeshore. And those are luxury condominiums, selling for upwards of 500- 600K a suite in some of them.
first, i didnt mean to be offensive (just in case.)
but that is a serious dilemma you have there and im sure there are other issues to consider like education for kids, safety, life style options.
have you looked at same work in other cities?
i agree thou its a serious problem with public transportation. part of which is due to the fact that such systems are an afterthought of city development rather a conscious planning decisions.
having said that. had cities been better design for such systems you should not be experiencing such problems. Not sure about your particular situation. but if more people use such systems it would be more profitable for them to run more routes and have more buses/trains/ferries running at the same time. so that rather then having a bus ever 30 min you would have one every 15 or less on each leg. then you should never be more then 15-20 min late.
What about my situation, with a bus, then a train, then a ferry? Say I miss the bus, or it is sufficiently late. I now have missed the train. Depending on how quickly the bus comes, I may also miss the one after that, if the next train is only something like 15-20 minutes after. And thus I must wait again.
Having missed my "true" train, I have now missed my ferry, and must wait for that.
Even assuming only 15 minutes between each and only one "miss" per leg: +45 min.
@1RadicalOne his point was that we need to improve our system, and improved system would cause this problem to be diminished.
with cars right now, we have that problem, you leave a bit late, get caught in an unusual amount of traffic compared to your normal time because more people leave later, your 15 min late is now 45 min extra waiting in traffic.
actually if each leg repeats every 15 min then you would only be 15 min late. lets say first leg get to you at 7Am. 2nd starts at 7:30 and the next at 8Am. each leg repeats every 15 min. so if you miss leg one by lets say 5 min. you will catch the 7:15 one meaning you wait 10 min to the next one. then the 7:45 on the second and the 8: 15 on the third. thus you would only be 15 min late.
y would you miss each leg? you miss one then you get back in on the next set.
No, because I would miss the "nearest" of each leg; it is impossible to make the transfer from one system to another in just one or two minutes; the train and the ferry, for example, are separated by a 10-minute walk.
wow Toronto must have some retarded transportation system. A. each leg starts at 10 minutes walk distance and B they dont take that time into consideration in the scheduling of the routes.
both easily solved if someone actually put an effort into it.
Yes, the system is badly designed, an artifact of their being planned and built decades apart, and run by different organizations, some of which are for profit and thus will run as few routes as possible.
snowflakes will solve the problem.
ricer888 1 month ago
I don't know about North America and Europe, but in Asia there are already navigation systems that direct the driver to the least congested road!! :D
won20529jun 3 months ago
2-4 billion cars for 9 billion people? I really hope not. After 20 years of vehicle ownership in New Zealand, I am very happy to now be living in a city (Berlin) where I don't need a vehicle. I bike, walk or take public transport. Instead of more cars, what we need is better public transport and more compact cities which are made for people not cars...
monkeyrecordsnz 3 months ago
BUILD A MASS TRANSIT MONORAIL
52imcool 4 months ago
his sniffing is hurting my brain
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HongKongTrash 5 months ago
Traffic and parking predicting GPS for cars and Electric powered trains are the solution.
You can thank me now.
AntonSlizzardhands 7 months ago
Frankly, traffic jams are the solution to make people like you realize that cars inside the city are not a good idea.
blasel33 7 months ago
JUST RIDE A BIKE, GOD DAMN IT!
seriously, though.
they're already affordable, they burn fat, not gas, and you don't have to deal with traffic jams
alackofoxygen89 7 months ago 4
@alackofoxygen89 That's only good if you have short to medium rides in temperate weather.
AntonSlizzardhands 7 months ago
@AntonSlizzardhands
bad weather doesn't exist, only bad clothing.
bikes have limits, like everything. but you're always able to push those limits, and ride long distances in whatever weather.
which isn't an easy thing to do. but most daily trips could be made on a bike.
alackofoxygen89 6 months ago
@alackofoxygen89 "bad weather doesn't exist, only bad clothing." Huh?
AntonSlizzardhands 6 months ago
@alackofoxygen89 exactly and when you have to commute 40 miles to work or go grocery shopping they... ummm, never mind. ;-)
Barbarian74 6 months ago
@Barbarian74
a 40 mile daily commute isn't an ideal situation, whether you're driving or on a bike.
but you could most haul groceries on a bike.
alackofoxygen89 6 months ago
@alackofoxygen89 That type of commute is a reality for most Americans though. On Average Americans live 16 miles from their place of work, that isn't a reasonable bycicle commute distance for most. As for groceries, sure a single person going to the store to buy groceries for themselves for a few days could do that, but for a family. Even groceries for a family of 3 will fill up the trunk of a car, let alone a bike. It's not a reasonable option for most people.
Barbarian74 6 months ago
I am glad that Bill Ford loves nature, and wants to make environmentally friendlier cars. One problem is that cars overwhelming use oil, the supply of oil is problematic. Wind and solar provide about half a percent each of the total amount of energy we use. It may take decades before renewables become significant. A future beyond traffic gridlock may require fewer cars, fewer suburbs, more public transit and more car pooling and car sharing and shorter distances to travel.
mollytherealdeal 7 months ago
Smarter cars, smarter roads, smarter parkings... You just need smarter people.
thepiachu 7 months ago
1. Communist cars? :P
2. Search "bicycle rush hour Netherlands". That's how you do it. Watch and learn.
3. If we're going to have more people, the obv sol'n is not increased personal transit efficiency, but increased mass transit.
I know this might come as a shock to Americans, but you really don't need a car in some European countries. Cars are just seen as inconvenient and expensive compared to the public transit options, bike & walk.
Their cities r designed to make it convenient.
VivekRajcoomar 7 months ago 25
@VivekRajcoomar transforming the personal transit into an intelligent grid effectively makes it mass transit
helmus2000 7 months ago
@VivekRajcoomar America isn't a small European country.
H1TMANactual 4 months ago
Would have liked to see some more depth, but I think smart cars and smart traffic guidance systems are a necessity with the population bomb. I do believe there are other alternatives (bikes, walking, etc) but as far as I'm concerned, cars will almost always be the most convenient option. And let's be honest, way too many innocent people are injured or killed due to someone driving recklessly. Instead of forcing people to be smarter (and better drivers), let's just make smarter transportation.
Bfavrestarr415 7 months ago
Cars telling me what to do, when to leave, which direction to drive.
What is wrong with everyone. We can FLY, the technology has been available for so long it's ridiculous, all people have to do is make it their focus, demand it, and it will appear.
We have to stop accepting this limited technology, restrictions on our movement around the planet.
None of that was innovative or clever, it's just old boring stuff that has been talked about for years.
Flight is the solution. Demand it.
AlkPacino 7 months ago
@AlkPacino i say teleportation is the solution LOL
Tolstoievsky 7 months ago
@Tolstoievsky
Yeah, I'll have a go on that too, soon enough. But it's insane to be talking about cars anymore. For those that want them, great, there'll be loads more room on the roads for you while the rest of us are flying in the air.
It's no more dangerous than cars, safer in fact.
And nobody should consider that ridiculous flying car, (Paul moller) or the stupid bulky jetpacks as our options for personal air travel.
There is far better technology now, all we have to do is demand it.
AlkPacino 7 months ago
@AlkPacino I prefer to look up and see the sky instead of flying vehicles thank you. Also, flying takes more energy than driving on the ground and it is therefore more difficult to find a green solution for it.
reconciliatory 7 months ago
@reconciliatory
Don't worry, I'll fly so high that you won't even see me, and I'll even wear a sky coloured suit. .
As for the energy and being green, well that's a debate that goes on forever, as it was designed to.
AlkPacino 7 months ago
When it comes to vehicles someone needs to start dedicating the use of composite materials, carbon fiber, and aluminum as the staples of a vehicle. Safety goes up, efficiency goes up, etc.
wccrispy 7 months ago
This talk still offers no solution. The solution is to get off the streets little by little. Leave the streets for essential transport. Build new networks without compromising existing. One solution is over-head PRT systems. Integrated transport systems together with PRT could be a powerful mobility solution. Automated underground systems for cargo while larger bike path networks and electric bike lanes using variable speeds. Ford is incapable of breaking out of the automobile concept.
worldbridger9 8 months ago
If they go the environmental route and ruin themselves, I'm not bailing them out.
axelasdf 8 months ago
@axelasdf yeah, fuck the environment, profits yo. And stay out of my wallet - that's what matters most in the world yo.
The world according to fucking douchecunts.
GraeHall 8 months ago
@axelasdf: srsly. clean it up you chidlish and selfish snot.
You aren't an Island, everything you are, have, and use, is a product of all of the efforts of human kind's contributuions. You owe every human being who came before you every fucking fibre of your being, unquestionably.
The least you can do is not pretend that you aren't fundamentally required to contribute to broader issues all humans face. That attitude is god damned ridiculous.
Clean. It. Up. You owe. And you have to pay.
GraeHall 8 months ago
@GraeHall No human being is born into debt. Not.One. They.Dont.Owe.You.Shit.
michealsoft72 8 months ago
@michealsoft72: hahaha.
That's fucking adoreable.
Every god damned human being born is indebted from the moment they are conceived, they';re indebted to their mothers for carrying them, for nourishing them, to the people who provided the food, shelter, society and stability for your mother to be able to nourish you and carry you to term, to medicine,, to it all.
That you see debt as financial shows how superficial, selfish and shallow your worldview is.
GraeHall 8 months ago
@GraeHall No one owes you anything, financial or otherwise. (Although it's obvious you need help with your manners.) Your assumption of indebtedness shows how totalitarian and dangerous people like you are. You want to control others and dictate their behavior according to your wishes. Here's my gift to you.... a hearty laugh coupled with the middle finger.
michealsoft72 8 months ago
@GraeHall
What did I do to deserve that? I'm saying, if Ford ruins themselves financially doing what they think is best, it doesn't mean that I owe them ANYTHING. It will ruin my trust in them, and I won't support them. What is wrong with that? What if someone else has a better solution (by my thoughts) and I invest with them in that idea. If I choose poorly, are you required to pay for them screwing up in their (and my) decisions? You need to grow up, Sir. Also, I don't owe anything.
axelasdf 6 months ago
Cmon TED for over a year I've been seeing comments about your unnecessarily loud intro...
calebd87 8 months ago 40
@calebd87
I've been wanting someone to say that for a long time
Icecoldpoker 7 months ago
We need... teleportation... provided by green energy of course.
SSuperCuriouss 8 months ago
Actually, i predict a pandemic when the population crunch hits. It's almost an inevitable outcome.
SSuperCuriouss 8 months ago
1000 kg car to transport 60kg of person, madness !! The oil companies must be making a for....
:-/
twistedbass15 8 months ago
Good stuff from Ford. I like Focus on sustainability rather than profits. Might actually consider buying a Ford again one day.
dillion3384 8 months ago 3
Try not to hate on me for this; I think we need to get working hover boards like in the Uglies series for personal transportation, and if we have that technology then we'll have hover cars too. Personally, I think that would be one of the coolest things in the world.
LoveOnUrArms 8 months ago
Ayn Rand would be very upset if she saw this guy apologizing for the success of his great grandfather and his family in creating so much propserity for ordinary people.
Wormtail81 8 months ago
@Wormtail81: "Ayn Rand would be very upset".
Fixed.
Or rather, "Ayn Rand conveniently justifies me being very upset!".
Ayn Rand, how to tell everyone just what kind of person you are, and just what you think of your fellow man. You don't get to have an asshole view, and not look like a fucking asshole. She was an asshole. She appeals to fucking assholes.
Totally within your and her rights to be as such - go for it - but you're still being a fucking asshole.
GraeHall 8 months ago
@GraeHall Chill out and stop using insults instead of real arguments. It is odd to see the great grandson of such a successful man act like creating value for society is not enough of a public service. I suppose it is your right to be rude on the internet.
Wormtail81 8 months ago
Who else was thinking 'Back To The Future 2' during this whole talk?
dantenorth 8 months ago
a lot of fluff in this talk..
iezzzwan 8 months ago
... accomplished by high-speed rail and other modes of public transportation.
CommunityBuildersSB 8 months ago
The grade-separated freeway is the problem. Tolls are necessary, especially during peak usage, and the character of these thoroughfares needs to change to that of a boulevard in more urban areas. More medium- and long-distance travel needs to be accompli
CommunityBuildersSB 8 months ago
In a nutshell "transportationet" - the Internet of transportation networks, or getting "information highway" down to the real highways - automatic intelligent transportation
OdedRoth 8 months ago
This was a great talk, but I do agree car companies need to unite with other area's of life to get one communal solution. That is the hard part, who compromises what to attain the most desirable outcome?
Geoshi 8 months ago
Ranting about him doesn't make any of you any better than he is. There is no perfect problem solver I. The world so move on. Watch the video, and gives us an opinion on how we solve the issues, not the personalities. More talk about Bill Ford and less about growing strain on resources is a waste of time and talent. If nothing else the sheer irony of his perspective is great way to stir public opinion and awareness.
3theblackbird 8 months ago
I think this video is a load of ***** Cars are the wrong answer, traffic isn't the big problem...
DTOlness2860 8 months ago
What a looser this guy is. Filled with money and stories, he had the opportunity to change the auto industry but yet didn't. Look at him now, a real humanitarian. Go home jack ass, no one wants to hear your bull shit.
lordjavathe3rd 8 months ago
He's got some good ideas. I think that besides attempting to address the problems that may be created by unsustainable population increase, we should also begin considering ways to prevent world population from rising to that level. It's a topic most people tend to close their ears to, but it's the easiest means of preventing many problems from occurring. If that supplements some of this Bill Ford's suggestions, we will end up with a much more efficient world.
BluncheonMeat 8 months ago
@BluncheonMeat why leave it at a single efficient world. we have the ability, the resources and the need to move off planet
Sordeo 8 months ago
masdar ftw. just max out public transportation and get rid of everywhere they arent necessary.
AnselmWiercioch 8 months ago
dont worry the world will end on 2012 also i dont want a car i cannot drive i want to be in charge of driving even if that means i might be endangered!!1 so stupid i dea of cars driving themselvs
jimakosgian26 8 months ago
dont worry the world will end on 2012
jimakosgian26 8 months ago
for anyone that has an iPhone, there's a GPS app called Waze, it's basically the same idea. You input your destnation and as you are driving you get notifications, sort of like a social thing where people report accidents, traffic jams, hazards etcetera. So you get this notifications and it asks you if you want to go through another route and to be honest it works fantastic. The best thing is that's free! (this is not an ad, it's me trying to help people)
jaimemicha 8 months ago
I didn't notice anything about getting culture to change so that we don't all operate on the 8-to-5 schedules that lead to everyone getting on the road at 7am and 5pm. You know, eliminating RUSH HOURS. We've done in it air traffic control, discouraging having twenty flights try to push out at 8:30am at one airport.
goneutt 8 months ago
@goneutt It's an admirable thought, and something to work for, but creating that kind of wholesail change in culture itself is more difficult than herding cats.
Barbarian74 8 months ago
No problem, whether it's healthcare, homelessness, pollution, etc, will be solved until we understand our greater purpose and the available means with which we can serve it. Everything else is literally a waste of time.
thinkofwhy 8 months ago
EVERY ONE ON BIKES:D WE MUST BAN CARS NOW!
johnello 8 months ago
he needed water, poor guy was choking on his own tongue! so nervous he couldn't produce saliva, that happened to me once, it suuucckkkss
RockalilyDunne 8 months ago
I can't wait for this. No more driving myself somewhere. I can read the news on the way to work or enjoy the view. It'll be much safer, less frustrating, less wasted time, and no more excuses for being late.
LudicrousTachyon 8 months ago
How about getting rid of toll booths! That would save fuel and time. Hello!
jerami101 8 months ago
Dear Car,
You don't fuckin tell me what to do!
Sincerely,
Driver.
(Why can't we just live locally? fuck globalization/world economy)
dcjfree 8 months ago
@dcjfree Give it 2 years or so. Peak oil was in 2006 and greece is about to trigger 2008 part two. Anyone buying a car now may as well just burn their money cos you're not gonna be able to run it for long.
danfromabove 8 months ago
@danfromabove Peak oil just means that were more than halfway out and mining oil will come at a steadily increasing cost. The average lifespan of a car is only 20 years or so. Gasoline can still be sythesized from biological oil sources.
brokenseeker 8 months ago
We don't care about your childhood or personal life! Talk about ideas!
RaffettoSpeaks 8 months ago
Are they ever gonna change the intro? Its getting old.
WyldOrbit 8 months ago
This guy looks like a cigar and red meat sorta man
tremulent 8 months ago
Why must the beginning and ending audio volume be so excessive?
tremulent 8 months ago
Is he part Italian? His hands moved almost as much as his lips!
eluap 8 months ago
maglevs?
lorenzoexperience15 8 months ago
Less urban sprawl, less cars
dertymajik 8 months ago
Your grandfather invented the assembly line to take power away from skilled workers. He didn't want "people" who weren't in his rich guy club to be able to have a decent life because he wanted more than he and "people" like him, could ever use.
F your large circular driveway!
OurFadedGarden 8 months ago
You cocksucker. Your family is exactly what is wrong with this world. Too little too late.
bakkerrich1979 8 months ago
metro, subway... no??? its better faster and eco friendly...no??? walk, bicycles, public bicycles, exercise = good looking people??? no???
good looking people sweat.
i hate cars
tenisplayer 8 months ago
looks more like advertising for future ford cars than solutions for traffic jams
DanLazyLee 8 months ago
Descended from Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone? I say vote this guy for president because of all that heroic blood! Those guys were businesspeople that have revolutionized the world for good and vastly improved the standard of living.
jaymthegenius 8 months ago
He only expressed his thoughts. Nothing else.
wwwloymachedocom 8 months ago
Local: Bike, your own damn feet
Provincial: Trams, Trains, Buss', Metro
Global: Planes, Speed Trains
I'd like to see the raised walkways, where you see more car tunnels to keep the cities more clean. Cars will never go away, I'm afraid.
I guess automatic driving cars are the answer, but you'll always have technophobes that wouldn't trust it or those who want to steer manually. All I have to say to that is, "get over it".
TheSolitudinarian 8 months ago
@TheSolitudinarian
I'm no technophobe, but I would not want a car to do the driving for me. I enjoy driving, I find it relaxing.
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 8 months ago
Kinda funny how they are trying upgrade transportation, if they would really truly care they would level every city in the world and build proper actual modern city that actually works (which is by the way cheaper). But stupidity has no limits ergo here we are and continue to be. Be at peace world, hope you continue to enjoy your long life without us parasites.
CapMurd 8 months ago
@CapMurd Can you show me the link to your claim?
AduhAwas 8 months ago
his passion is the environment,- wow I wonder what he doesnt care about
ehpl 8 months ago
i got bored
grundgemonster 8 months ago
Fuck private transportation, we need trains and trams i live in tokyo and it works great
InPursuitOfALife 8 months ago
@InPursuitOfALife
here in montreal you need an hour to get from any part of the city to the center of it using public trans. it takes about 15 minutes to get there in your car.
Muphlon 8 months ago
@Muphlon Then you are one of the lucky few. Around most of the world public transport tends to be more efficient and cheaper than private transport.
AduhAwas 8 months ago
As a car lover I totally agree. We need all the solutions so that driving can be fun again and not a horrible burden and necessity. I wouldn't mind taking public transport to work 5 days a week if I can drive during the weekends.
Arxces 8 months ago
why do people not like this talk? it is a good talk, he brings up great points. it is a call to arms!
djAmiracle 8 months ago
Did he mention that his grandfather was opposed to trade unions or minimum wage or employee benefits? Or that his grandfather colluded with the Nazis?
reprimand33 8 months ago
too bad I won't be able to afford one of these smart cars until its 13 years old and been used by 3 different people
calebp9503 8 months ago
this guy is talking about an evolution while what we need is a Revolution and I still bet that self-driving cars will be the solution by no far than 2030
Leobons 8 months ago
PT stinks!
Leobons 8 months ago
Bill Ford, master of innovation and organizational excellence. Why, just take a look at the Detroit Lions for evidence.
mumdangerous 8 months ago
Self driving cars please :)
hutchings000 8 months ago
zzzz
jsmith2144 8 months ago
The problem, even with the smartest car, will be the dumbest drivers.
zombiesmasher 8 months ago
who is this Frank Lee?
kacperciesla 8 months ago
SUPER - we shall be even more regimented like ants, we shall have our exact where about and plans controlled by a collective ... roll on the future eh? eh? We rush into our own shackles ? Ah, but it will keep economic growth going and feed the planet, and it will only be the abuses of such facilities and powers that present a danger. In reality, ceding privacy for my personal gain in quality of life experience is not so bad ! But let us protect our legal systems against possible abuse !
Hythloday71 8 months ago
Roads are just one more government inefficiency. So, privatize roads. Let the free-market solve much of the gridlock problem. Then, as video teleconferencing improves with the rapidly advancing technology, it will be more possible to work from home and do many other things without driving. Those 2 things will do far more than cars that "talk" to each other.
bradwatson7324 8 months ago
No silver bullet? Sure there is a silver bullet: DON'T DRIVE. There's nothing greener than driving to your grocery store by bike. And buy vegetables grown here, not at other end of the world. Exporting peas and at the same time importing peas from other countries, is there anything more retarded than that? And sure you'll still need a car to travel long distances, but a car has 5 seats, not 1. That would be a traffic reduction of 500%. And by the way, there's no such thing as a "green" car.
Eleandorwins 8 months ago 2
I don't care who this guy is. 95% of what he's talking about is horseshit.
bradwatson7324 8 months ago
what we need is a grid of cars that drive themselves like in i, Robot and Minority Report.
goodvibrato 8 months ago 16
@goodvibrato
If i wanted a 'car that drives itself' i wouldn't have a car in the first place and would use that thing called public transportation...
You know, a bus?
A trolley?
Or a steam train...
Orthodoxcrusader 8 months ago
I think we should take a leap beyond the cars.... like jetpacks, hovercrafts, maglevs, monorails and many more futurist way of transport.... it'll be more fun than driving a box with wheels...
makigott15 8 months ago
Great talk, but I'm a little disappointed that he dealt with the issue of over population as if it was just a given, rather than being the actual major problem that needs a solution. It's obviously an issue no one wants to touch. Just work around it, apparently.
Snoot501 8 months ago
we need smart people driving cars, not people driving smart cars. technology can only go so far.
ilivestronger 8 months ago 2
@ilivestronger No actually we do need people driving smart cars.
atheelogos 8 months ago
2:06 "cars are quite literally in my blood". OMFG - someone call an ambulance immediately!!
LAnonHubbard 8 months ago 3
since we won't stop reproducing like viruses, is there a travel system that distributes so well that the volume is never felt at any one time? so we could have any size volume and not have constant traffic jams? something more than cars and roads.
but, on top of over-population, I think human behavior is too convergent and conforming that it would hinder such a distribution. even then, there comes a point where even a wide distribution of too many people exceeds a single global capacity anyway.
xjustamem0ryx 8 months ago
@xjustamem0ryx There is no danger of over-population in Europe and north America. All the 3 billion extra people over the last 40-50 years come from 3rd world nations due to decreased child death because of aid from, us. We didn't think it through before we went ahead and gave them vaccinations and food, rapidly decreasing child death. If the development of 3rd world nations continues, the population explosion will halt at 9 billion in 2050, and hopefully stay there forever or possibly reverse.
fuunguus 8 months ago
@fuunguus
one can hope.
xjustamem0ryx 8 months ago
@xjustamem0ryx Yeah. It's very optimistic to say it will happen in 2050. This is only possible if everyone have enough energy and food in 2050. If we don't find a revolutionary solution for our energy problems then we are going to be in big trouble, cause people are going continue to have huge families. If the fusion experiments over this decade turn out to be a success, then our future looks very bright! *crosses fingers*
fuunguus 8 months ago
@fuunguus 'over population' doesn't necessarily mean large numbers. It happens when there are not enough resources to maintain a population of any size, even if it's 5. While the large numbers of people are not in north america and europe,it is where, especially in north america, the majority of resources are being consumed. So it's not just about numbers. We can't just pass the buck to the 3rd world countries and tell them to stop reproducing. We have a responsibility to stop consuming so much.
Snoot501 8 months ago
@fuunguus Europe and NA are already way overpopulated. Those 3 billion people that will be born in 3rd world countries won't be the ones consuming Earth's resources. Contrary to what you believe, they hardly receive any vaccins or food, and child death has *not* been reduced in 3rd world countries. But if each woman still gets 10 babies, 1 or 2 dead babies won't make a difference. The problem lies in lack of education, because every extra child is an extra worker, not an extra mouth to feed.
Eleandorwins 8 months ago 2
forget cars. teleport or bust.
xjustamem0ryx 8 months ago 3
Another way you haven't thought of yet huh? How about cycling?
dunkalunk 8 months ago
YOU FORGOT THE FORD HEMP CAR!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
BallinTrollin 8 months ago
dude lives in a bubble
pikiwiki 8 months ago 2
i used to love cars until i owned one. it's expensive to buy, expensive to run, expensive to ensure. the only thing it's good for is traveling in rain without getting wet. but the stupid thing rots if it rains a lot and it's expensive to repair.
make a chair on wheels that has a roof and doors so i can go to work in rain or snow and convert a 2 lane highway into a 6 or 8 lane highway. all the stinky delivery vehicles can have their own lane or make a delivery grid underground.
kmica2008 8 months ago
@kmica2008 It's called the Smart Car.
SoggyPoridge 8 months ago
Bla bla bla bla blaaa.... Who made the first car that drives by it self ? it was made by Ford? Chevrolet? Dodge? or Nissan? Mitsubishi? Mazda? Nooo!!!!! Google made it First!!! Its a F***ing Shame
So... Too little, too late
lasceibas1 8 months ago 5
So in the future I will either walk or ride a horse. I think I could walk 100 miles in under 11 days.
srvvlhm 8 months ago
Why do we need cars that talk to each other? How about people talk to each other and understand how to drive a car. The license test in America is bullshit and traffic tickets are given out almost exclusively for revenue and not for safety.
GuineaJay 8 months ago
7:00 in. He hasn't made a point yet but he mentioned his bloodlines a least 7 times.
GuineaJay 8 months ago 33
@GuineaJay agreed! the first part's a long format Ford promotion video.
dcjfree 8 months ago
Motorbikes are about a three times thinner than cars. Why havent they promoted motorbikes more. I dont understand?? Theyre better for freeing up parking and road congestion. The major downside i see is that they are no good for logistical purposes. Also dislike that the vast majority of people believe riding is unsafe when it really isnt.
Sqagg 8 months ago
I wish there are more talks like these. I just love the idea but it also depends on the roads. In Bangalore, the roads are not planned as good as Dubai or any other city for that matter. We either have "One Ways" or "No Ways". So we gotta have better road systems in order to incorporate this idea. It is inevitable to get stuck in traffic in Bangalore because the road you take is the only road home. Also Bangalore is a small city.
cobipal1 8 months ago
Cars driving themselves should help. Imagine a fleet of cars going 200 KPH, bumper to bumper, without these clumsy meatbags behind the wheel. You should easily increase road capacity by 75% by my uneducated guess.
Jotto999 8 months ago
like a lot of people commenting I felt like this guy is full of shit and that we need public transportation not shit in our cars but I think we need to be more realistic and start small because there are going to be some people who are just not going to embrace public transportation and if these little step help us get to and ideal way of transportation than so be it.
Mluna792 8 months ago
I suspect JH Kunstler would lol at this video
670Kiester 8 months ago
Where I am, I pay nearly £5 (Around $10) just to go a few miles down the road on a bus, they are never on time, they are always unclean, the drivers are assholes, there is always a traffic jam...If you want to fix the problem then invest money into public services because there is clearly no incentive to use it and every incentive on using a car.
TheIslammiracle 8 months ago 2
I waiting for Teleportation
purewilderness 8 months ago
Bikes? anyone?
cavakun 8 months ago 33
@cavakun Bikes (both human powered, electric, and internal combustion) are great at person transportation with no or little cargo payload.
For human powered bicycles, recumbent layout is by far most efficient, and can extend effective range by 30% or more. Bikes are in general good for singel person transport with up to 10-20kg (20-40lbs) of cargo for up to 10-15km (6-9miles), beyond that is for special interest and/or high end equipment. A 1KW electric assist and 1KWh battery gives ~40km range.
gulllars 8 months ago
@cavakun
No, horses! or even better, Dragons! >:D
Thymonico 8 months ago
"Cars are literally in my blood"
I want to punch him.
Beeevaaa 8 months ago 2
@Beeevaaa I want to punch him for a lot of reasons but that is a good one.
ZombieX13 8 months ago
@Beeevaaa He does need a good punch in the face. But what I really hate about him is that he had the opportunity to change the auto industry long before now, he had the money to make a real impact, but he didn't. Now he talks like great innovation is his idea. I can't wait till people like him grovel before the great minds of their age.
lordjavathe3rd 8 months ago
I feel overpopulation is an issue and that the planet is already overpopulated......am I wrong? It seems so as no one talks about tackling overpopulation but only solutions to the symptons....why is that?
groMMit1981 8 months ago
@groMMit1981 you are right.
i have read somewhere that even if we all switch to drive the full efficient Prius that additional fuel efficiency would still be less then the emissions that only one person would produce thought his lifetime.
so whats easier, quadruple the efficiency of everything or just make sure that our population does not increase?
china is right with their one child policy, thought i would prefer a 2 child so that we freeze our population growth.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
@Crazylalalalala Not all countries are over populated!
pkiriakou 8 months ago
@pkiriakou
true some nations do not consume resources that they do not have (mostly 3rd wrld) but nations like the US and much of Europe are overpopulated in the sense that they have more people then their land can support. and if the entire world would live under the same conditions then we will have a huge over population problem. right now is not a big deal sense much of the resources used are coming from nations that do not have the ability to use them but as they develop that will change.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
@Crazylalalalala With that same logic I say agai, that not all countries are overpopulated, with the sense that having more people that you can support. Only the US have a big problem of overconsuming, overpolluting, overeverything! Most of the countries in Europe do not have this problem, only a few, and only a few in the wolrd. (talkin about developed countries)
pkiriakou 8 months ago
@pkiriakou
the US is not the only problem its simply the largest. The US is probably more self sufficient then most European nations due the significantly larger resource pool.
even if the entire world would have the standard of living of most Europeans we would still need about 3 earths to keep that up. We people are over populating the earth. there is just too many of us to make sure that everyone has the standards that we all want and deserve.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
@pkiriakou
over populations doesn't just mean you have tons of people. its having more people then u can support.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
I see huge problems with smart parking mentioned 12:30...other people will steal parking spots manually (perhaps the parking location being allocated is too far away from destination), or reserving a spot hours or even a day in advance causing the whole system to go haywire. Or possibly in another scenario, this system has a HUGE potential to become manipulated by the government: people needing to pay a rate for the parking spot starting the moment you make the parking reservation.
fjsoap 8 months ago
Anything that involves technology/artificial intelligence taking control of a motor vehicle seems a bit risky to me... not that I don't trust it to work right uninterrupted... Its just that people will learn how to hack these self driven cars & program them to drive off a cliff.
ksalbrecht88 8 months ago
... the entire talk was just
1. this is me
2. these are some problems
3. these are some solutions others have done
4. you guys go solve some problems relating to sustain my company's future profits.
hussaibi 8 months ago 7
I am all for mass transit - except one fact, one that is a deal-breaker for me.
With a self-operated transport, if you are two minutes late to start your trip, you are two minutes late to your destination.
With mass transit, being two minutes late can make you over an hour late at destination, or, in my case, with multiple "legs" of trip, more than three hours, caused by just missing one leg after another and having to wait an hour until the next train/bus/ferry/etc.
1RadicalOne 8 months ago
@1RadicalOne
you knw you could move closer to work or find other work. but i do agree with you that is a big problem with public transportation but how often does that happen?
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
I am afraid the former option is not possible - the shortest possible commute still involves a once-an-hour ferry, and I would have to live where a 1-bedroom house costs over $400k.
As for the latter, that would be worse even than the commute, giving up what I am good at and enjoy doing, and what I feel contributes meaningfully.
To answer the latter, for me, about 50% of the days, the other days having me get luckier and catch at least one consecutive leg.
1RadicalOne 8 months ago
@1RadicalOne Singapore?
azharbinhafiz 8 months ago
No, downtown Toronto (Canada).
To become close enough to effectively shorten the commute by eliminating unnecessary legs, I would have to live in one of the condo towers right on the Lakeshore. And those are luxury condominiums, selling for upwards of 500- 600K a suite in some of them.
1RadicalOne 8 months ago
@1RadicalOne
first, i didnt mean to be offensive (just in case.)
but that is a serious dilemma you have there and im sure there are other issues to consider like education for kids, safety, life style options.
have you looked at same work in other cities?
i agree thou its a serious problem with public transportation. part of which is due to the fact that such systems are an afterthought of city development rather a conscious planning decisions.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
@1RadicalOne
having said that. had cities been better design for such systems you should not be experiencing such problems. Not sure about your particular situation. but if more people use such systems it would be more profitable for them to run more routes and have more buses/trains/ferries running at the same time. so that rather then having a bus ever 30 min you would have one every 15 or less on each leg. then you should never be more then 15-20 min late.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
With regards to your last:
What about my situation, with a bus, then a train, then a ferry? Say I miss the bus, or it is sufficiently late. I now have missed the train. Depending on how quickly the bus comes, I may also miss the one after that, if the next train is only something like 15-20 minutes after. And thus I must wait again.
Having missed my "true" train, I have now missed my ferry, and must wait for that.
Even assuming only 15 minutes between each and only one "miss" per leg: +45 min.
1RadicalOne 8 months ago
@1RadicalOne his point was that we need to improve our system, and improved system would cause this problem to be diminished.
with cars right now, we have that problem, you leave a bit late, get caught in an unusual amount of traffic compared to your normal time because more people leave later, your 15 min late is now 45 min extra waiting in traffic.
xabu9001 8 months ago
@1RadicalOne
actually if each leg repeats every 15 min then you would only be 15 min late. lets say first leg get to you at 7Am. 2nd starts at 7:30 and the next at 8Am. each leg repeats every 15 min. so if you miss leg one by lets say 5 min. you will catch the 7:15 one meaning you wait 10 min to the next one. then the 7:45 on the second and the 8: 15 on the third. thus you would only be 15 min late.
y would you miss each leg? you miss one then you get back in on the next set.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
No, because I would miss the "nearest" of each leg; it is impossible to make the transfer from one system to another in just one or two minutes; the train and the ferry, for example, are separated by a 10-minute walk.
1RadicalOne 8 months ago
@1RadicalOne
wow Toronto must have some retarded transportation system. A. each leg starts at 10 minutes walk distance and B they dont take that time into consideration in the scheduling of the routes.
both easily solved if someone actually put an effort into it.
Crazylalalalala 8 months ago
Yes, the system is badly designed, an artifact of their being planned and built decades apart, and run by different organizations, some of which are for profit and thus will run as few routes as possible.
1RadicalOne 8 months ago