All In One Alcohol Stove Improved (READ DESCRIPTION)

[clamzo1]

Memphis Slim?



[Greywulf2112]

@clamzo1 Artist is credited in the description.

[AstraCoLtd]

WE Recommended TO WATCH PRESENTATION MULTY BURNING ASTRA X2

[rcplanegy]

Im doing thison my ipod cant really post a vid. Respnse, just search rc planegy its the one that looks like a fireball XD

[rcplanegy]

Does this comment even work? I cant post the link to my video!!!!!

[Greywulf2112]

@rcplanegy Post a video response, not a link in the comment section. Youtube doesn't allow website addresses in the comment section to help cut down on spam.

[rcplanegy]

@Greywulf2112 ok thanks im going to post a video of my stove on alcohol when i get it on here please give me feedback thanks!

[Greywulf2112]

@rcplanegy Don't forget to let me know when it's uploaded so I can check it out. Can't wait to see what you made.

[rcplanegy]

grrr.... Got cans and designed a stove, works on alcohol ( what little i have left) but flames are weak n yellow.  Does heet really make that big of a difference?

[Greywulf2112]

@rcplanegy I believe that Heet burns a bit hotter than 70-80% alcohol which should improve your boil time for, say, 2 cups of water or whatever you may be boiling. Also, I believe that alcohol burns off faster than Heet. You should find yourself refill the Heet less than you would if you used alcohol. You could also try Denatured Alcohol which has been pretty comparable to Heet, and probably costs less.

[rcplanegy]

@Greywulf2112 Yeh well see the design im currently trying is a cat food tin can side burner, very simple: a can with holes in the side. It works, but all i have currently is 70-80% rubbing alcohol. I am using a thick can though, so taking thatinto account would it be feasible? Thanks all!

[Greywulf2112]

@rcplanegy Rubbing alcohol works fine. As for the feasibility of kerosene in a side burner, I can only speculate, that it would work with small amounts at a time, as long as the top remains uncovered. You would want to suspend your cooking pot above the stove tin and not directly on top of it to avoid making a combustion chamber. Wikikpedia states "The heat of combustion of kerosene is similar to that of diesel: its lower heating value is around 18,500 Btu/lb", while Ethanol is 11,500 Btu/lb.

[rcplanegy]

Question: will white gas for older camping stoves (ex: kerosene) work? Have little alcohol but plenty of white gas!

[Greywulf2112]

@rcplanegy To the best of my knowledge I would say no. I believe that kerosene would burn too hot in the aluminum can. If you try the Campbell's Soup can idea that vwdad53 talks about in the comments, you may possibly be able to use a very tiny amount of kerosene in the preheater, but I really cannot recommend trying it. I have watched tons of these stove videos and have not seen anyone use anything other than alcohol based fuels.

[RJBURG]

get a flat washer same size as inside top can bolt to button of crump catcher then make fill hole bigger so nut fit in hole the weight will keep it sealed

[XxmindcellxX]

I burned gasoline in mine and it was fine. I couldn't find any alcohol pure enough to burn in it so i tested it with unleaded gasoline.

[Greywulf2112]

@XxmindcellxX I guess we'll have to take your word for it. I still don't recommend anyone try it themselves. Thanks for your feedback.

[cliffcox66]

Can it burn kerosene?

[Greywulf2112]

@cliffcox66 To the best of my knowledge I would say no. I believe that kerosene would burn too hot in the aluminum can. I have never seen or heard of anyone burning anything other than alcohol based fuels in these type stoves.

[cliffcox66]

@Greywulf2112 ok, thanks. I'll stay with denatured etoh. great vid.

[Pripyat1]

@Greywulf2112 petroleum based products would explode.

[bluemountaindrivepae]

May not hold a quart pot of water. Can may fall over and spill flaming alcohal.

[Greywulf2112]

@bluemountaindrivepae Actually, NCHiker1970 and I worked that out. If you go to NCHiker1970's page there is a video of the stove's improvement we worked on together to hold the larger diameter pots. The name of his video to look for is "Crumb CatcherAlcohol Stove Part 2 The improvement". If you want a link to the video I will message it to you.

[maxinpains]

@bluemountaindrivepae

LOL that's what I thought . but this is good idea as a concept.

[dhudson369]

does it work the same with petrol or lighter fluid

[Greywulf2112]

@dhudson369 No, absolutely not. Petrol burns way too hot and will melt the stove, while lighter fluid, if you were to preheat it, has the potential to explode inside the stove. Think of a cigarette lighter in a camp fire and you should be able to see my point. Lighter fluid was not designed to be "boiled".

[c9ari]

Is that Champion Jack Dupree singing?

[Greywulf2112]

@c9ari The artist is credited in the video description.

[butkatrello]

love the music , cone liquor, caned heat

[KoN312]

I like taht design. i made something somewhat similar as my first test stove. with a build in primer chamber. i used it several times to heat a can of food. if interested plz check my vids.

at now i would make something more sturdy like urs (for info i am no hiker.. ;))

but i love to make such really useful things.

[Greywulf2112]

@KoN312 I'm glad you like the design. Just like you, I am not a hiker either. I am more of an inventor I guess. I like creating things when the inspiration hits me.

Thanks for the comment, and if you like my design, you should check out NCHiker1970's channel for some really awesome creations. He is the one that helped me create this stove, as well as inspiring me to make "The Stand Alone" improvement.

[matt4270]

Cool stove, good song, and it turns out "Canned heat" is actually good for you, like broccoli. Thanks Sterno bums!

[McBethklok]

So am I the only one that has to wait for over 5 minutes before the stove is hot enough to catch fire? I use ethyl alcohol (spiritus) and setting it on fire is easy..it lights right away. When I use it in the penny stove however it takes ages to get to the 'gas-spraying' temperature where the holes on the side of the penny stove catch fire.

[Greywulf2112]

@McBethklok I'd be interested to see a video of your stove setup to find out why it is taking so long to heat up. Are you using a preheater to gasify the fuel in your stove? The preheater is specific to the task of making the fuel in the stove light faster.

[kumili727]

@McBethklok use rubbing alcohol i guess

[tytekelenburg]

what fuel do you recommend ?

[Greywulf2112]

@tytekelenburg I personally like to use Heet. It's a Gas Line Anti Freeze With Methyl Alcohol in it. If anyone else would like to share their preference for fuel, feel free to reply to this comment.

[PiperHome]

I use methyl hydrate. it burns clean, and hot. I get 4 litre jugs of it at Canadian Tire for about 6 bucks. (clearly, I'm Canadian)

Also, I've completely abandoned the regular "penny" stove in favour of the Crumb Catcher design. I find it's stronger, more robust, and overall a better design.

[Greywulf2112]

@PiperHome You just made my day. I am really happy to hear that you like my design concept and use it regularly.

[butkatrello]

@tytekelenburg corn liquor

[snoozlefroose]

Boiling up some beer eh? lol

[shadowkn1ght]

my penny tove exploded on me after like 4 months of use. it sucks cuz i went to use it and heet all over the place

[Greywulf2112]

You bring up a good point. The penny stove is good for cooking and it is lightweight, but it's not a permanent solution. Penny stoves can wear out and become very dangerous after extensive use. The metal is thin to begin with, and after heating it over and over, it becomes thinner and even mis-shaped. It's good to have backup stoves for just these reasons. Thanks for pointing this out.

[rbvmtr]

my epic did the same . the edge of the bottom can were it crimpt the top melted . I like to use open sterno types I use mostly wood stoves the alcohol ones are my on the go stoves when I'm out and about the city and want to eat or drink sometin hot real quick ,

[DeimosSaturn]

How often were you using the penny stove for those 4 months?

[icychap]

Nice stove! Great tunes - what track is that?

[Greywulf2112]

Thank you, I'm glad you like the stove. I'll add the song title to the description.

[xle5363]

how do you put these stoves out do you have to wait until they burn out on their own

[Greywulf2112]

I usually put some type of can over the stove so it cuts off the air to it and it goes out. Just be careful when lifting the can back off of it because there can be a slight backdraft and a quick "whoosh" of flame.

[obxwavesurfer]

......haha that dude below is a lil over kill,i just blow mine out lol

[OutlanderOfEarth]

That's slick. Im gonna do that.

[joyofherb]

excellent design sir

[hackenalex]

oh very nice!!!! 5 from me

[stimulater7]

5* from me

[nephildevil]

AWESOME!!

[ZenZaBill]

Great stove -- and I liked the music, too!

[kc7fys]

Talk.

[phigh57]

Looks like an improvement over the reguler penny stove, but it looks a lot harder to make than a regular penny stove.

Pretty sweet!

[Fishingandhikingfool]

Cool stove dude!

[DrBeardo]

Dude, what is this song?

[Greywulf2112]

Better Leave That Stuff Alone

by Will Shade

[vwdad53]

Damn good idea, The flame probably burns hotter this way. Try using a Campbells soup can for the base, it has a flatter bottem and the pop stoves fit perfect. Thanks for your idea.

[Freakywithfire]

I dont get it! What the fuck are you trying to make?

[Greywulf2112]

It is an alcohol stove for camping.

[Greywulf2112]

You probably won't get the reply since I have blocked you and reported you to YouTube for abusive commenting. I won't stand for anonymous abuse, and I won't fight on the internet. If you don't like the video, don't watch it. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.

[NCHiker1970]

that was my only concern... stablility. If you are comfortable with how it is I will not question it. I like the idea. I thought about this the other night and was going to try building it myself but I was going to bend tent stakes to form pot holders and attach them on the sides. If I build it I will produce a vid and post it for you to see.

Thanks for the video and the ideas keep them coming.

[Greywulf2112]

That sounds really cool. I can't wait to see your design.

[MrBillTroop73]

Good work.

Have you had any stability problems?

Bill

[Greywulf2112]

I have not experienced any stability problems at all. As noted in the description, the stove will support the full weight of a Keg Pot with water and does not tip over.

[MrBillTroop73]

Good to hear!

Keep up the good work.

Bill

[Greywulf2112]

Thanks Bill, your feedback is appreciated. I am a fan of your designs, you have some great concepts, and they are inspirational.

[WorldStove]

Spectacular stove! How long did the 3/4 ounce of Heet burn?

[Greywulf2112]

3/4 ounce of Heet burned for 11 and a half minutes. I think the fact that the preheater had burned so long, may have reduced the overall burn time by approx 3 to 4 minutes. In the beginning of the video you see the flame burning taller, which is a sign that your preheater is vaporizing more fuel than necessary inside your stove. I will do a burn time test when I pick up more Heet. Just a side note, I used 8 holes in the top of the Penny Stove, and they were drilled out with a 3/32" drill bit.