Patraeus tells pastor DO NOT BURN QURAN...how IRONIC

[glennheston]

I burn a quran every so often just to see the pretty colors.

[MrSword419]

dont buen the qoron use it as toilet paper best thing for it and as for allah he suck pig dick mohammed the gay bastard son of dog was a rent boy selling his ars eto the jews

[xBloohberry]

@MrSword419 You know Allah means God in English so you insulting your own religion you idiot.

[mwhhammud]

hey bret do you know Lawrence of Arabia

i think that you are trying to be bret of muslims

you were very excited about saudi girl who converted to chrtistianity

i told you alot about kamilia shehata but you ignore this issue as she reverted to islam so you are not minded about freedom you only aloyal christian fighter

good job you are working well

now i know you

[MaTaRoe]

ambassadors to the world......

"soldiers are merely pawns for foregin policy" - Henry Kissenger

[clevonamerica]

@MaTaRoe

they may be our oawns but they are ambassadors of america in the eyes of non americans who meet them

Bret

[m20310378]

I'd better hear him saying the second option you mentioned. Peace from a Muslim.

[kushira]

=O omg thank you for this video! i think more people need to be aware of what your saying, maybe even all of america! xx

[clevonamerica]

@kushira

thank you my dear

[kushira]

@clevonamerica xD you have many supporters behind you aww!! Alhamdulillah xx

[moepimpin]

this video needs to be heard by more people!

[clevonamerica]

@MySimpleWorld1

it is my pleasure

[NawazTakla]

I am a Muslim and its really good to see a sensible American guy speaking the way most of the Americans do not!

[clevonamerica]

@NawazTakla

:)

[nospacesallowed]

Step one look up definition of irony..... step 2 use it in the correct sense.

[clevonamerica]

@nospacesallowed

are you kidding?

Irony? ok: here goes:

a General wants to stop terrorism so he confronts every source in USA that he thinks is fomenting terror..IRONICALLY..IRONICALLY­..none of these sources of agitation are within the direct influence of his station..IRONICALLY the one group who actually happen to be one of the biggest sources of agitation ie,,(his own employees) he fails to even mention...you my friend are IRONIC...just kidding, youre actually just a little love bug im sure

[nospacesallowed]

@clevonamerica Irony is NOT funny coincidences. Irony strictly speaking is saying something where the meaning of your words are other than their literal intention often times the opposite of their literal intention. We could try to say that this is dramatic Irony, but it doesn't really fit the definition of that either, unless we are going to say that by speaking out against the Koran burning he caused more terrorism...... Sorry it is not Irony.

[clevonamerica]

@nospacesallowed

untrue my friend...i debated this in college.

one type of irony is called situational irony

Main Entry: situational irony

Part of Speech: n

Definition: an outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually does

the irony i chose is more substantial than this definition but consider how broad the definition..

peace my friend

bret

[nospacesallowed]

@clevonamerica What outcome is suspected and what outcome is actually happening? I still don't see how his weighing in on the mosque controversy counts, unless you are to say that by him weighing in it endangers the lives of soldiers over seas more than if he did not weigh in.

[clevonamerica]

@nospacesallowed

i think outcome is tricky...first there is th kneejerk reaction of those uneducated masses that a ruled by angry mullahs who failed to tell their peeps that the burning was cancelled and failed to share that the general tried to stop it. but in time the dust will settle and perhaps the truth will become apparent and future strife will be averted...it cant hurt to make gestures for peace

bret

[x6fahad9x]

people will not stop hating and they will definitly not lisen to what the genral seys

the only wey to prevent what your talking about is to put international security on youtube

[Yezmyn]

Religion doesn't kill. People do.

[johnnystorm28]

My father has beard, he stays in Kuwait.

During Iraq War, my father was carried away by American Soldiers unnecessarily in Kuwait, then they made claims that my father is fucking Osama Bin Laden,

Fuck you Osama and those soldiers, then they harassed my father in many ways, this is so painful and sad for me, i searched my father in Kuwait for one week, one fucking week, then i found him with the help of local police under illegal detention of my father my some fucking American motherfucking...

[johnnystorm28]

soldiers

Thats the fuck why I hate America,

I have never and will never step a foot on unholy land of America filled with murderers, rapists, pornos , ignorant racist bastards.

I am sorry if this offends anyone.

FUck you AMerican Army

[ignoranceisbad]

General Patraeus is not stupid. Until someone becomes a 4-star general like him, I suggest they be quiet

[SurfingHijabi]

@ignoranceisbad or what? I don't think he ever said he was stupid...

[ignoranceisbad]

@SurfingHijabi

No, not about that at all... but although I'm not american, I think it is natural for someone to have an admiration for his attributes because he is a 4-star general who is fighting a very complex war, and I think he knows what he is saying...

[someonex011]

your a zionist, shut the fuck up.

nobody cares what you say

[SurfingHijabi]

@someonex011 you apperently care cause you are watching this video..

[someonex011]

@SurfingHijabi well you a zionist bastard

[SurfingHijabi]

@someonex011 well you need to learn english.. :D

[Knr911]

Burn the Qur'an day is cancelled!! W00t!!

CBC News "Florida pastor cancels Qur'an burning"

[Knr911]

"If you're a muslim woman tell me if you got rape threats"?

Go in Sweden see who ACTUALLY rapes who.

Go here in France see who ACTUALLY rapes who.

Sorry but internet is internet, you can't stop free speech.

I'm 100% with you for being aginst the burn the Qur'an day, I agree with you 100% that burnin' Qur'ans is not that big of an issue considering the actual warfare, I'm totally conscious of all the civilian victims in muslim countries and I'm outraged by this, but you can't stop people talking.

[SurfingHijabi]

@Knr911 its not freedom of speech when you are breeding hate or threatening to kill someone... its becomes a felony...

[Knr911]

@SurfingHijabi well, it depends... There are videos of people threatening to kill each other on YouTube for example, but this is just comedy, like in a movie. How would you determine if somebody's serious, if he really means it, if it is someone who's bored, just an irresponsible 14-year old kid, etc.

If the threat is acknowledged to be real, of course it is a felony, but the only way to determine it on the net would be to implant a chip in EVERYONE and backtrace the computer of EVERYONE.

[SurfingHijabi]

@Knr911 Theirs no way to know if the threat is legit or not...better safe than sorry don't you think? it would be preposterous to imagine putting chips in everything privacy acts and what not... :D totally get your sarcasm.. but what exactly was your point again ?

[SurfingHijabi]

@SurfingHijabi oopsies ... there* :D I do that all the time :D

[Knr911]

@SurfingHijabi It seems you have understand it already. My first point was "you can't stop people talking."

If u want to outlaw people from making threats on the internet, ur enforcing speech crime, which is fascist.

The only way 2 apply the law would be to implant a chip in each citizen, backtrace each computer, filming each citizen.

Then it means that we have to analyse each case of complaint for threat --> billions of files to treat everyday, it's not only orwellian but impossible to manage.

[SurfingHijabi]

@Knr911 Totally get it... really good point... its just the threats that get to people i think :( Doesn't matter who its coming from or how old they are.. I think if we let things like that go what could happen... I see your point though :D

[Knr911]

I strongly disagree.

Any1 can pretend online to be whoever he wants and say whatever he says. If u saw the comments here in France, we have by far more comments by muslims threatening to rape unveiled girls, enforce Shariah, kill all whites than anything else. Who says they aren't fake muslims pretending to be just to raise hate against them? Even in my socialist country it's unconceivable to demand from people not to say sh1t on the internet. What ur advocating here is big-brothering every1.

[clevonamerica]

@Knr911

you just proved my point. this has to stop and posers need to be arrested. you cant don a mask(virtual or otherwise) and commit crimes with impunity

bret

[KingKongOfAmerica]

@clevonamerica lm with u, bro, crime is crime!!!! Sick people are a danger to everybody!! today its that one tomorrow its somebody else.... today its easy to hate muslims, next time its somebody else, people have forgotten ww2! it all has the same pathern, demonize, burn, hate, kill and on and on it goes. haters creat haters, and its always the innocent who has to pay! so its time for the law to be implemented the hard way!

[sumayahrose]

Really Bret I am so proud that our countries political leaders spoke up, for once. It might be the start of a new era, then again, they are undermining their efforts more by not cleaning up the back end of this.......by insuring that the soldiers show respect for others. Really by this hatred the soldiers display I really feel bad for the afgani people.

[Anekantavad]

Powerful stuff. Right out of Walter Kurtz's mouth in a way.

[SurfingHijabi]

Thank you for posting this.. I've have only posted a few videos but each on has had nasty comments... I've gotten private messages where people are telling me they are going to rape my children in front of me and slit my throat... I had to file police reports... its disgusting that someone could even think to say something like that... to think something like that!... it's horrifying

[sumayahrose]

@SurfingHijabi yep we get a lot of heat here on line. If you check my videos I have so many hate comments its crazy. And I am not attacking people in my videos. It is crazy but yeah Bret is right its a genreal atmosphere here in america that it isok to hate muslims and treat them badly.

[SurfingHijabi]

@sumayahrose it's bad... wasn't this bad post 9/11... since I started wearing hijab i don't go out alone.. Usually my husband or a friend... it is truly worse than ever..

[sumayahrose]

@SurfingHijabi it is bad and heart wrenching. I feel like a black women with no family before the civil rights era............which is a pretty crapy era for black women. No support, and no resources that will help you either, even here in america now for muslims, people can abuse them, and the goverment doesnt do anything, they are relaxed about it, because they hate muslims. its a double edged sword. I had to quite wearing hijab from this, because I have to work, but then there is my RED -NECK

[sumayahrose]

@sumayahrose RED-Neck Family that try to attack me any chance they get. They are so embaressed I am a muslim, they hate me having a youtube, and besides that, they have disowned me and threatened me with my life, they threaten to lock me in a mental hospital, they threaten if I visit they will call the police on me.........they have robbed me of being a mother. And when will the goverment come to help me in my rights? IN this abuse!

[theONEsassyCHIC]

All this shows is that we have extremists in the USA too.. and this extremist is christian!!.. So for all the people who think that all extremists are muslims... well here is their sign!! Christians have them too.

[SpankyBurrito]

If only there were more people like you bro, thumbs up.

[islamonly1]

I am sure there are some vbery bad people in the military, you can find a "bad apple" anywhere you look so that should not be surprising to anyone.

I am also sure that there are many great people in the military.

Just like not all muslims are bad, not all American soldiers are bad either.

[sumayahrose]

@islamonly1 I agree, but they are far and few inbetween.

[islamonly1]

People have nothing better to do other than burning book.

They must have pretty boring life, I assume and looking for some kinda enjoyement.

And you are right I have seen pretty ugly commnets supposedly coming from American soldiers but i also know many times people open account and pretend something that they are not like they pretend muslim and write all kinda disgusting things so others will look at islam very low. This may be the case with American soldier story.

will cont.

[VisibleGaming]

...I alway's get this when i give lecture over youtube on my old account, so i stopped the other account.

[HUKASASHA]

you know Bret, its not only those non-muslims who are insulting us but also some sects in Shia Muslims called Rafydah(which i don't think they're muslims). They collected money and held Aisha's(the prophet Muhammad's wife and mother of believers) death celebration(cursing Aisha day!!) in London saying that she and all the companions of the prophet are now in hell fire !!!. They accused her of apostasy, lying, adultery, being rude and many things.

watch?v=OnrXq6u2vO0 ( from 1:58)

[CsOmarY]

Pastor Terry Jones represent himself and his small church which means he can go and screw himself ,but american soldiers represent their country , they should be more wise and carful with what they do on youtube or anywhere else .

[mav2400]

I personally think the burning of the Korans is stupid, but only because they're indirectly supporting Islam by buying all of them. Also, I feel you and I should be honest here. Would there be such a huge outcry and threats of terror attacks by Christians if some Muslims in Saudi Arabia said they were going to burn a bunch of Bibles? I think everyone here knows what the answer is, but I would like to read it for myself.

[MusicIzMySavior]

@mav2400 When have muslims burnt bibles? it would be considered a sin, when has muslims insulted prophet jesus ? never

[mav2400]

@MusicIzMySavior

It was just an example. You and I both know that there would be no threats of terrorist attacks or fear of them if Muslims did decide to burn bibles.

[watcher0777]

general petreaus is killing people with his bs rules of engagement, 8 soldiers shot in iraq by an iraqi soldier, 2 dead, very possibly because of the general and his touchy feely fuzzy strategy. maybe they were unarmed and had to run back to the locker to get their weapons that were hidden because they are nice and sweet american soldiers only there to help the iraqi people. your a joke sir, unsubbed......................­...............

[salbal777]

Excellent points, you always tackle the issues from different angles. Salute.

[icedjiggythug]

YUP... ive had a "soldier" threaten me after he cut me off while driving... saying " i jus got back from Afghanistan i killed your fukin cousins" i dunno if hewas a soldier or not but regaradless

[GlobalDuty]

why is this man getting so much media attention?

[Norm1290]

You couldn't be more right than your opinion in this video. You've just hit the nail on the head. Bret, thanks for this video.

[badmintonworldvideos]

Dear Clevon, This is a great video, I appreciate your courage and honestly delivering what you know. Burning a Quran won't earn christians anything, and I believe, Its not the Christians who are wiling to make it happen, Its just a few extremists. This group will be even more violant than talibans or Al Qaida if they are free to do what they want. Its just that they are in a developed country that they can't do more than that. So U.S should immediately consider stopping this group of extremists

[UltimateKuber]

Very well said. Muslims take religion very seriously and doing this is like kicking a Muslim where it hurts. I do agree though, I would rather have Patraeus tell his soldiers to stop these despicable acts. The Quran is Allah's holy book and inshallah he will take care of it.

As for hate and racial comments, yes I get them all the time, unfortunately for the people that tell me this, I know how to counter very well. It especially makes them mad when I say something patriotic.

[jbags84]

I think here in Canada people keep their emotions to themselves generally. Americans tend to wear their emotions on their sleeves and nothing is too taboo. This doesn't mean though that Canada has any less racist or hateful people, it just means that if they are going to call me a terrorist, they will yell it from a moving car or give me dirty looks while they whisper to their friends. Never has anyone approached me and said anything threatening and God willing they never do

[jbags84]

@jbags84 haha of course I mean in real life, the internet is another story, but you know what they say, the internet attracts all the nut jobs and it's easy to say what you really want when you hid behind anonimity

[initialdrift86]

Very well said man. I get many threatening and insulting messages in my inbox quite often.

[GreaterPakistan]

I hope no innocent Americans are caught up in violence just for one idiot called Pastor Terry Jones,

God bless the Common innocent Americans (American can be white Muslim Jew, Christians) .

No hate for America, 4uck the haterz

[sightuponlight]

You've got a good heart, Clevonamerica. You hit the nail right on the head at the end of the video, athough you said good things all the way through, the MEDIA(BBC, CNN, FOX, etc.) has made it bigger than it is.

Peace.

[Binhiding123]

great vid

[khansahb8]

I wish David Petraeus would see this video

[JimboVids]

If a YouTube video or even a news media clip causes Muslims to kill people, just imagine if you pissed in thier Cheerios. I don't care if I'm called a racist or a bigot, but I must say.... most of the Arab world, including Muslims, are socially fuckin' RETARDED. Most of the males become freakin' savages by time they're a teenager. Even the most uneducated and desolate tribes in Africa, in the middle of the fuckin' jungle, know how to act like a civilized adult human without destroying shit.

[LittlPussi]

Patraeus should do both of course. What he says about "Burn the Quran day" is great and he should court-marshal those soldiers who step over the line of their regular duties. But he can't do it alone, so he'll need his officers to do that. He could speak out though (without undermining morale within his troops). A difficult balancing act.

[LivioRazlo92]

Interesting fact: The islamic way to dispose of a Quran is to burn it. So this pastor guy is lining muslim's pockets by buying their books, and then disposing of them in a way that muslims say is the right way to dispose a quran. Lol this guy is dumb on so many levels.

[mowgly3000]

Burning Korans is stupid because although Islam (or rather its current many interpretations) is the cause of many unnecessary evils in the world, nevertheless Pastor chose a primitive way to combat it. I think that's what General Patraeus was trying to get accross with his condemnation, and his concerns over the very likely unrest in Afghanistan and reprisals againts US troops as well as its coalitionists, humanitarians in the region is a genuine one & strategically speaking a wise choice

[NumaNuma187]

I get attacked at least 3 times a week, lol

[Bearillaful]

Impressive analogy Clev, one thing if any that has emerged from the Koran Burning it has brought together a lot of diverse individuals from all walks of life. I only hope that Americans will all protest this on that day.

[koora8]

@clevonamerica i didnt see someone who say hes a soldier myself ,

but tons of replies and comments like "yea bomb those sand niggers"

and stuff like that

thats exactly wat the people behind the war want , they made the american people reach a level where they WANT war .

by many ways like media ofcourse.

[koora8]

he should have said , "dont burn the quran bcoz we burned enough bombing mosques"

wat pissed me off is the only thing he care is the soldiers safety !!

he was like " dont provoke those animals while we are in the same cage with them"

IF U CARE THAT MUCH THEN GTFO OF IRAQ .

[frid9999]

@clevonamerica You said, "religion is just the scapegoat to justify their heinous deeds"

I disagree strongly. Religion isn't the scapegoat. It is the driving force. It is the fuel and motivation. It is the source, not the excuse. These are not evil people hiding behind religion and using it as a scapegoat. These are people holding evil religious beliefs and doing the inevitable as a result, evil deeds.

[koora8]

@frid9999 believe me , if there is no religion in this world , people will still find reasons to start wars ,

just look who started the biggest wars in the last few years , i dont think all those people are religious .

[frid9999]

@koora8 There will always be nationalism and tribalism and other sources of wars. That is why I disagree with Dawkins who famously said "religion is the source of all evil". I don't think that religion is the source of ALL evil, but rather that religion is pure evil. Absolute pure unjust anti-human evil. Religion short circuits all forms of thoughtful reasoning. It tries to override all rational thought with a claimed truth from above that is baseless, unyielding and unjust. It is pure evil.

[live2givesadaqa]

@frid9999 really, then what about stalin?

[clevonamerica]

@frid9999

btw...if the majority of my muslim viewers feel this isnt happening to them then i will retract. people send me lots of stuff and i get upset violent soldiers on here.

people send me daily clips. the winter soldier series alone has got to be causing lots of death in the streets

bret

thanks again for keeping me honest

[frid9999]

@clevonamerica Thanks. I am keeping an open mind and if people have stories to share (hopefully verifiable) then I am open the data and information.

[Sporkmater]

@clevonamerica If I can offer some logic reason about the Winter Soldiers is that many of the things said in these sessions are a stretched if not out right lies. I can provide more info about these Winter Soldiers events and the IVAW group if you would like.

[HOTA200]

@clevonamerica

HAPPY EID BRET :)

I think burning the Quran on 9/11 makes people searching & reading the Quran

and they will find the Straight Way. LIKE exactly when american convert to Islam after 9/11.. God makes things happens to Move the idle.

[sonnygll]

@frid9999 RE: "it is the driving force"

That's not quite right. It depends on what part of religion you mean. The cause of the posteriori beliefs that influence people to feel justified about misdeeds? Sure that drives it in those afflicted. But otherwise people pick and choose with religion. What a theist feels on the inside is what he think god is, and determines which parts of the holy book is emphasized, the peace or the barbarism.

But I agree book burning is too fascist for my tastes.

[mowgly3000]

The "idea" that worldwide jihad & unrest in muslim world (i.e, Iraq, Afghanistan) is somehow because of Israel/Palestine(Iran) conflict is a misguided one & based on propaganda generated by muslim official voices & far left wing western academia. Don't be a retard & buy into this falacy: watch?v=x-LxnkO3yx0 ...btw only psychopaths murder anybody because of something they saw on youtube. Bret's hypothesis is the following: "root cause of terrorism is a resistance to it" watch?v=6d7fHvHXeiQ

[clevonamerica]

@mowgly3000

misguided or not the perception rules over actual fact

[mowgly3000]

@clevonamerica Perception it might be, but there is no reason of buying into it and especially spreading it over the social networking sites. To assert that American soldiers died in Iraq and Afghanistan as a result of Israel and/or its policies (as opposed to various coups and dictatorships that were foremost killing those countryies' muslim inhibitants) is a serious charge & stuff like this makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up

[watcher0777]

@clevonamerica yeah so when all the perceptions that are lies rule will be better off. in the kite runner to tell lies is to steal the truth. to deprive anyone of the truth so they can have peace is a real sweet deal, "smoke the cigerettes they won't hurt you a bit" trouble is the peace is false and lung cancer and emphesema are the truth. who are you?

[frid9999]

But I agree with your sentiments, and those of most muslims here, that a "burn the quran day" is stupid. It only detracts from the discussion we should all be having which is the harm the three controlling religions are doing to the world, and whether fundamentalist christianity, orthodox judaism and all but the most liberal versions of islam are compatible with a modern civilization based on human rights, science and secular democracy.

[clevonamerica]

@frid9999

but only people do stuff

religion is just the scapegoat to justify their heinous deeds

[frid9999]

I think you need to provide evidence of your claim that 1. "every day" some American soldiers are saying "I am going to kill muslims. Hey you're a muslim I want to slit your throat, like I did your cousins in Afghanistan or Iraq." And 2. that "some [American soldiers] are going online and threatening to murder and rape innocent muslims." It's a damning claim and you should present evidence or retract. It is serious crimes you are alleging. And how do you know the crimes are being ignored?

[clevonamerica]

@frid9999

i asked my audience for confirmation so watch the comments and see for yourself. i got one in my profile two days ago. i have muslims send me cooments from their channels regularly too. a death threat yesterday but not from military.

it happens everyday..thats the thing too that videoes are forwarded and played and replayed so one threat can last in the virtual realm forever too. one soldier kills a puppy and every day ten thousand muslims watch the replay..its everyday

[xVenZz]

I get these but im only 15yrs old and Im saudi and another one was sent to me by a israeli guy :(

[romanali1]

Muslims should respond with "we love jesus" (peace be upon him) ... and we should try to get some media attention for that

a) it shows we aren't all crazy and violent

b) we would be living up to quran 16:125

c) it will be a "win" over the hate of this pastor

d) it is truth, so it deserves to be shared

e) it may help build bridges (and yes i know not all the haters are christians, but this pastor is)

[WhereIsTruth]

peace brother,

the Evildoers are deliberately making a big deal out of the so-called NYC mosque and the burn the Quran day, and whatever other commotion they can create, because they want to start a religious war. the Evildoers want to create conflict because they actually want to have a build up to a false flag event so they can ban and destroy the Bible and Quran...because they hate the truth, and they hate God.

[allush29]

You are absolutely right, I Agree, But then what can you do with sick mainds wen Their goal was to foment strife and hatred against Muslims?

[clevonamerica]

@allush29

we drag them into the light via this medium...YOUTUBE

:)

[allush29]

@clevonamerica I like your wisdom ؛)

[DariusDaGreat86]

Here's a prtip for u Brent:

I someone says on the internet that they're American soldiers, they're not necessarily telling the truth

[clevonamerica]

@DariusDaGreat86

thats true but a few of these guys have given me personal information about themselves. i can reach them. i know some may be posers but either way...posers should be stopped too..impersonating an officer is a crime in some circumstances

:)

[Sadin15]

For me, burning the Qur'an is a lesser issue compared to hurting a human being. I told my family, its better they burn books than burn Muslims. Being a Muslim woman in the US I know I have to watch out for myself. I avoid public places here where I feel I or my family will be harmed because of my hijab.

Gen. Patraeus has to understand that his soldiers are capable of harming people...much more than civilians. Hateful speech against Muslim on TV only adds fuel to this issue.

[clevonamerica]

@Sadin15

barakallahu fiki ya ukhtee

[Sadin15]

@clevonamerica wa iyyakum ya akhee :)

[freeeeelibyan]

great video....this pasor has blood on his hands if people got killed...peace....rednecks hhhhhhhhhh always stupid

[clevonamerica]

@freeeeelibyan

i know some cool rednecks,,,really..

[freeeeelibyan]

@clevonamerica really do they have horns?

[equallyeasilyfuqyou]

i'm not going to burn a koran and i don't agree with it at all, but they can do whatever they want. america.

[jamietruman]

I liked the fireman analogy

[MomoMaxedOut]

Lets hope to God this does not happen, for the sake of innocent lives.

[saqib09]

I've never got any message like that from any marines.

But I receive nasty disgusting comments all the time. Just a few minutes ago someone said that I'm not human because I am Muslim. :)

[luimarco]

100% agreed!