مقام بيات - رشيد القندرجي Maqam Bayat - Rashid al-Qundarchi

[toufickerbage]

I prefer the first option as it is more precise and does not lead to "quick-understandings", because waslat al Bayati might sound Aleppine or Beyrouti or Alexandrian.... thereforre I opt for the Al MAqam al Iraqi fi Waslat al Bayati...

it is all ok.. I know quite well Iraqi music.. and I dont like to cut a concert in pieces.. but youtube is youtube.. and uplpaders have various interests...

Thanks Deramr

[toufickerbage]

I just find the way we (Arabs) speak is so imprecise and non-chalant or debonnaire.. that it makes life more confused than it should be.. and all this is under the Umbrella of Being Poetic... one cannot be poetic when one is giving information.. or can one?

"Al Maqam al Iraqi fi Waslat al Bayati, qit3a kaza wa kaza wa kaza...."

or

Waslat Maqam al Bayati min al Maqam al Iraqi, Kit3ah kaza wa.. etc...

[toufickerbage]

Thanks but I suppose it is more complex than that..

the Iraqi Concert Maqam Chapter of the Maqam Bayat includes many sub-paragraphs... which are in other sections of other maqams.. or sections of sections... I did understand... I am not confused... Thanks for your concern.. I just find it awekward to state that "this is maqam Bayati"... it should say in the title Maqam Bayati of the Iraqi Maqam COncert sections so and so and so...

(fasl = chapter; qit3a = section) etcetera...

[toufickerbage]

Oooooops... at 5:10 five minutes ten seconds it cadences on Bayat...??? was he singing a shu3ba in Nawa from a a full suite in Bayat?? in order to come back to another maqam... the Bayat.. he must have been.

But then the Peste or Basta comes in, the rhtyhmed song, in genus jins Nawa and on the note Nawa... very tricky.... (must be Nawa)

[toufickerbage]

ABsolutely a Maqam Nawa.... some parts of Bayat can be heard in the lower qararat... but this is Not Bayat.. (a Busehlik maqam.. or Nahawand... but obviously a Nawa).... or maybe it has another name.. but not bayati... this is a great singer.... one of the greatest... Thanks very much for posting

[IraqiMaqam]

@toufickerbage It is indeed Maqam Bayat on G. the singer frequently rests on C which is the upper tone of the bayat tetrachord but he returns to the tonic G both midway (jalsa) in the maqam and at the end (taslim) before the peste which is also in bayat. Read the description under the video for a complete analysis with a mention of each mode used

[toufickerbage]

@IraqiMaqam surely a suite (nawba or wasla or Maqam) Bayat kobviously at 5:31 is a full Bayat cadence.... but the recorded part is mostly in Nawa.... terms as "upper note" are vague... upper axis or upper side station, secondary station, can make life easier. Thankyou, you are a better man on youtube than I am... i would put things too precisely.. and that might become boring if not confusing... but you can yourself see from the comments that people have been confused. I cant find the analysis

[deramr]

@toufickerbage

I think the reason for the confusion is that you're trying to analyze this as if it was Egytian, Levantine, or Turkish music for example.

The title of video may give you the impression that this piece is in Bayati maqam. That's not the real meaning of the title. The title is saying that this is a piece in Iraqi singing called maqam Bayat. That is the name of this piece, and this is what "maqam Bayat" means in Iraqi music.

[weidmann85]

It's 0% bayatttttt 

[deramr]

@weidmann85

This is a "reading" of the Iraqi "maqam Bayat". In fact, this is by far the most famous such reading ever recorded.

[oldfarabi]

Hard old times,real true art, as it is propagated from deep feelings of the heart reflecting the true emotions of that good old forgotten era of Iraq/Baghdad in Particular.

Many thanks to the uploader of this great historical document.

[spidermahir]

thank you very much for wonderfull songs. have you other records of this song ( jawad jawad mousayabee) .

thanks

[spidermahir]

الف رحمة على والديك that is the best of I have ever heard . thank you very very much .

[qa27]

جميل

[winneragainstallodds]

Hiloo

[IraqiMaqam]

If there is interest in Rashid al-Qundarchi I will post more.

[AhmedDabbagh5]

@IraqiMaqam I thank you for posting Rachid al-Qundarchi's video and I ask you to post such videos as much as you can .

And god have mercy on those great artists of that time .

[nukolektif]

@IraqiMaqam yes there is

thanks

Nicolas