MacMost Now 92: A Look At Snow Leopard

[MacroGeek1]

Biggest thing I noticed in SL was the space that was freed up. Good to see the changes to the dock menu for downloads and documents, too.

[ImperialArmour]

Quicktime is probably the worst media player I've been forced to keep on my harddisk. Doesn't at all work with ANY codecs from anywhere.

[kirche5]

See that monitor in the background with the three legs? I have that, only the legs would not sit right on my desk so I had to flip it, then invert the screen.

[50gig]

every thing you predicted is in snow leopard.

[mrperson01]

I really doubt that staement MBP have mediocre graphics cards. chances are that you have either a nvidia 8600m gt or a 9600m gt. and if you do that means you paid 2k+. if you dont then you have a 9400m which isn't even as good as the 8600m gt

[link123triFoRce]

OS X LION!!!!

[ryanyu59]

white imac

[thomasmovesinc]

what is that old laptop

[macmostvideo]

The one at the bottom right of the frame? That's a PowerBook G3.

[grosslyclever]

How do I get the new snow leopard Build 10A394?

[macmostvideo]

Snow Leopard is only available to Apple developers -- those who are paying members of the Apple developer program.

[DigiRarefaction]

you can download the torrent

[juanharu3]

theres still puma O_O

[tophora02]

LOL i bet their going to come out with Snow Puma next year

[juanharu3]

desert puma!

[vickiormindyb]

They've gone through panther, tiger and leopard.

Pretty soon they're going to run out of cat names.

My partner first mentioned that, but I agree with him.

[maxwellmovies]

they might go to smaller cat names as the install is smaller, like tabby hehe!

[RedSecodaMusicMYS]

My cat is called Nipples. Not the first and am sure not the last.

OSX 7 Nipples "Milking you for every penny you own" Just an Idea.

Nah, I love OSX But will be a awhile till I can upgrade to a decent spec Intel G5 anyway. You would think that apple can afford to bring the rrp down on these suckers now.

[maxwellmovies]

i have a g5 power mac, bargain from ebay, doubt i will ever find one so cheap again! I love it, but is is being sold again, as i already have an iMac g4, power mac g3 and a macbook pro! Too many lol How come you called your cat nipples! :)

[agentcaca007]

Mac sucks. Windows sucks.

Linux rocks!

[chanewle]

just 5 half hours left!!

[Khalduknight]

um... at 1:19, the mac got chopped in half. wtf?

[blueboy11994]

he put that picture of the snow leopard in the left corner of the screen (using some editing software)

[irreverentmoose]

Oh I didn't notice that either until now...

[sammysoulman]

In a labtop or desktop unit.

[goodstanley]

laptop**

[sammysoulman]

It would be nice to use 50TB of Ram, 400TB hard drive, Intel Atom for the processor going 50.9GBs and also have it so that it uses WiMax technology as well.

Making Mac the ultimate system around. Now that's a proper computer system.

[ibieinnit]

keep dreaming

[shorerydr10]

LOL tho, you'll have to buy a whole new pc knowing macs and their upgradability. If you want a fast and cheaper system, especially in a desktop, you want to build your own pc. and anyways, a mac is a pc, so in a sense the grammar is incorrect

[iiTudy]

@ shorerydr10

I do remember the same thing happened when Vista came out ,had to, basically, buy a new PC cuz it wouldn't run on slower computers. Although you're a bit misinformed because Snow Leopard runs on all intel based macs. True, PowerPcs are left out ...but oh well. Apple kicked iPhone 3G users in the balls by enabling video only on their 3G S new iPhone and not on the 3G. These days video can be recorded with any basic phone but not the iPhone. :|

[Freshbott2]

Surprisingly, you're the only person I know other than me and my brother who has actually thought about that.

[guitarskater11]

uh its $30 to upgrade it....stop trying to say pcs are jesus because the only thing they can do better is games

[cubs0110]

What do you mean? My MBP plays games better than most laptops out there.

[guitarskater11]

well thats pretty much what everyone says about pcs thats actuallly different from macs

[Riscmac]

not in its price range.

[cubs0110]

Yes, actually. If you built a similar pc laptop it would only be like 200 bucks cheaper, which is worth it to me for everything that mac laptops offer.

[Riscmac]

maybe the 13" macbook pro but definitely not the 15" or 17". you can get specs of the macbook pro for about 45% of the price.

[cubs0110]

If you wanna think that, I'm not stopping you, but you're wrong.

[pcfxer]

Don't forget the lower build quality. I mean, who wants something that feels solid and is well built anyway?

Then again, people still purchase Chrysler and GM vehicles so I guess there are people that don't care.

[mrperson01]

typical smug elitist mac user comment.

[pcfxer]

Sweet I'm elite! ...or 1337? Anyway, I'm a programmer and my interest is Networking and kernel hacking and I love the mechanics of OSX and FreeBSD.

I also possess an electrical engineering degree and would say Asus, Lenovo and Apple all have high quality PCB, components and build quality, though, Lenovo is dropping in quality for lower-end stuff.

[hkseo100]

Lenovo sucks at making their PCB and Capacitors in their IdeaPads, Thinkpads are still really good.

[pcfxer]

Agreed! Even with their decreased quality, they are better than Dell, HP, etc.

[liljoedaprince1414]

u also get ome free crap, BS and viruses with ur PC...its a special deal goin on :)

[mrperson01]

1. that is what the add and remove programs in the control panel is for. stop surfing shady porn sites or just use linux to surf the web (you can run linux virtual machine from a thumbdrive while running windows)

[Gabd3v]

intel macs are highly upgradable.

its just like a PC except a lot easier and it will not kill your warranty!

I take the app store over geeksquad any day!

[Yridian]

16TB of RAM is theoretical. Windows 7 will also be able to reach that number, in theory. For the home user, it's overkill I would think. But even we they can't reach that number, I think we'll still see a huge increase in RAM speeds this OS generation regardless.

[SuperHackBros]

WHAT 16 TB??????????!!!!!! REALLY???? dang thats super fast dont you think thats too fast what im i thinking nothing is too fast in the computer world

[PoliticalHell]

16TB of memory supported... where the hell would that every get used.

[maxsuperdudeisawesom]

2018

[XBlackXLabelX]

16gb can be helpful in pro tasks such movie editing, or for many virtual machines - eg 4x4gb for each os

[PoliticalHell]

No, not 16GB, 16 TB, one thousand times more then 16GB.

[XBlackXLabelX]

uh.. sry then, misread the thing.. 16TB is not possible yet and it is only a theoretical value -- meaning that in future u wont be scared of adding more ram and that os wont support it (eg stupid vista)..

[Aegrim]

you're a salesman right? you're getting paid for this, otherwise :S

[macmostvideo]

Not sure what you are implying, but I certainly don't work for Apple, if that is what you mean.

[combatcameraman]

No support for legacy users. If you've got a PPC you're not going any further than 10.5.x

Intel only

[maxsuperdudeisawesom]

Isn't it still only a rummer though?

[combatcameraman]

It was confirmed in the developer releases as being Intel only but there are ppc kernals, x86 and i386 ones embedded so people are unsure about the final release. As it stands at the moment though, it's Intel only

[combatcameraman]

From what I was saying before it's been confirmed now mate. Quoted from Engadget:

"It was just a day short of a year ago that we first got a bad feeling Snow Leopard was going to be end of the road for the PowerPC crowd. Now we know the truth, with Apple confirming Mac OS X version 10.6 will require Intel processors, cutting the cord on that rich lineage of alternative CPU support. From here on out it's Intel or bust -- until Apple finds a new silicon suitor it prefers, anyway."

[echoingheads]

This probably means that we won't see a revolutionary new OS with new features for quite a while seeing as they are getting comfortable with leopard.

[sexydanny21awesome]

This is going be awesome! More space and faster speed and its a update sweet.

[chickenmaster40]

This is going to suck for a power user! but if your not a power user and your not to fond of windows then you should definetly get this.

[Macaddict54]

exactly why???

[magnustabell]

when you got a mac with leopard what version is it then and how to upgrade it?

[macmostvideo]

You usually get close to the latest version. So on the Mac I bought last month, I got 10.5.6. I only had to do minor security updates with Software Update.

[AmH032uTuBe]

Well Safari 4 is currently for Leopar, Tiger and Windows

[kitcatnos2000]

a rare snow leoaprd?

[drummwill]

haha

[Coilaman]

I am still on OS 7.5

[FirebrandNIRE]

wow, awesome.

[applerocks]

I'm using OS 8.5 for some tasks

[anon540]

Everybody's going "Woooo 10.6," but Apple never said there would be a MacOS 10.6. They announced a new MacOS, but they weren't specific. I'll laugh at all of you when they come out with MacOS 11.

[NHLDucksRule35]

Dumbass, they said it was 10.6, learn to read idiot.

[anon540]

Well, actually no they didn't. They said it was a new major release called "Snow Leopard." Just recently they have started calling it "OS X Snow Leopard," but I'm almost sure that was AFTER I made that comment. For that matter, they still aren't calling it '10.6.'

[Xertazer]

Well, they did call it 10.x. It's Mac OS X snow leopard (mac os ten snow leopard).

You are right they didn't say it was 10.6, but it will be 10.x. Probably 10.6.

[CasperBHansen]

Wow ... everything we already knew, BUT with a bonus, facts about real snow leopards ... that's nice :D - No one really knows more than anyone else on this, except the lucky guys and girls that got the developer beta release :) - Now, i can't figure out whether i want info to leak from these developers, because it always seems so nice and neat when presented by Jobs or any other working at Apple for that matter :)

[macmostvideo]

Keep in mind, this was posted on June 11, 2008, just after Snow Leopard was announced.

[darkside97]

16TB ram nice

[hoseh0893]

lmaoo

[LessthanJake14]

I like the sound of the faster Safari. But they still, STILL haven't integrated Flash in to it. Firefox is fine, thanks.

That part about OpenCL sounds the same as Windows' GPGPU.

[macmostvideo]

What do you mean by "haven't integrated Flash" -- Flash works fine in Safari.

[LessthanJake14]

It's been a while since I've used it...oops.

[LessthanJake14]

No, we won't see a Mac Pro with 16 cores. It'll probably still be stuck with 8 core i7's.

[JJJJJJlp]

I have powerbook g4 will I be able to install leopard and snow leopard and how much will they cost please someone reply

[macmostvideo]

Search for "leopard system requirements" and the first result will take you to a page that tells you that it will run on some G4 systems. Search Apple (or Amazon) to see current Leopard OS X prices. But we won't know about Snow Leopard until Apple announces more details.

[UrsaMinor12]

is that the Lisa in your background?

[macmostvideo]

That's an Apple II on the left, an Apple monitor from around 1998 on the right, and an old PowerBook G3 at the bottom right.

[MatBookPro93]

june 11th lol,

a lot has changed since this video was made :)

i think ill stick with 10.5 though, unless snow leopard has some serious software application upgrades in ilife09 or snowleopard.

[macintoshtipz]

yeah i think on of us might upgrade

[soccergirl6544]

did you cut your mac in half? J/W

[macmostvideo]

No sure what you mean...?

[soccergirl6544]

It just looks like your monitor is in half. at 2:31

[V1DEOM4N]

Thats a picture mate, that snow leopard isn't in the room. He stuck up in the corner after the video.

[dfairbanks06]

hahahaha i was thinking the same thing i thot it was a fake one to make it look like he even had a mac

[mindstormmaster]

16 TB of RAM, actually.

[MatBookPro93]

my apple II has 17TB of ram and a 4k processor and 10mb of HD space.

i use it for final cut.

lol

[MacOneToOne]

you know your information

[rampagetv]

lawl a 16-core computer xD

[novellterminator]

I can just see people in 2015 or so lawling at your lawl to 16-core computers :)

[rampagetv]

yep, just like we are lawling at 1 mb of ram back in the day xD and like wow i have a massive 16 mb harddrive xD - working our way up to teracore processors?

[SuperiorBeen]

Just another Service Pack!

They finally created a 64 bit kernel 4-5 years after Microsoft did it! LOL!

Windows 7 will kick its ass so badly...

[kidcouger]

pfft windows 7 is vista without most of the flaws it all looks the same no speed boost or anything

[SuperiorBeen]

It has speed improvements! Aero is using 50% less memory! Boot-up time is something between 15-25sec! DirectX11, also kernel is updated with new instructions for the latest CPUs! Its able to use up to 256 CPUs (multitasking is much improved)

I also heard something about "gaming mode"!

[DavinTerrizzi]

I also heard something about 'gaming mode' on gaming consoles, and octacore Mac Pro's.

[DavinTerrizzi]

Says the man supporting an OS with hardly any 64-bit drivers and application support...

[jjessee25]

apple...... pricebreak...???? Yeahright!

[PowerPcTricks]

I herd some developers have a working preview, my just be fake though.

[mispolyc]

Thankyou so much for this information.

[trackizmy1]

whats the price

[macmostvideo]

That hasn't been announced yet. Not due until the middle of 2009, as far as anyone can tell.

[DrewDawg50]

What set up do I need as far as hardware specs for an Apple if I want to do some midi/audio recording? I'm sick of having stupid Windows and I want to make sure I buy what I need.

[macmostvideo]

Pretty much any new Mac will work for this. But if you plan on having a lot of tracks, you may want to get some decent power in terms of CPU and memory. But you could go portable with a MacBook Pro, or desktop with an iMac or Mac Pro. Depends on your budget, really.

[kidcouger]

it can handle a g5

[adonian]

thx 4 info on 10.6, does anyone know if blu-ray will will be supported yet?

[allaroundfilms]

I am wondering if you will need to have 10.5 to upgrade to 10.6, or if 10.6 will be its own self contained upgrade. Basically if you still run 10.4, could you just jump to 10.6 with out having to go through 10.5?

[macmostvideo]

Unless Apple changes things for this release, you won't need anything to upgrade. The last 3 OS X releases haven't had an "upgrade price" at all, allowing you to install on any compatible Mac for the same price regardless of what you had previously.

[James200809]

i wonder what os 11 looks like

[pitotouch123]

do we have to buy snow lepaord???

[macmostvideo]

Not sure what you mean. You don't have to buy anything. I'm sure just as there are a lot of Macs out there still running Tiger and earlier systems, that there will be a lot of people that stick with Leopard and don't buy Snow Leopard.

[xxtedstrykerxx]

well there is a tech preview of safari 4

[AutobahnFilms]

how long until thy make a new Mac computer model..?

[macmostvideo]

I don't have any inside information. So your guess is as good as mine. It seems that they update each line of Macs once every 12-18 months at least.

[MacBookGuy91]

Smaller footprint Leopard on mine only uses 7gb i have a 74gb - 7 = 67 i don't need 3 gigs more for music. well maybe i could.

[rabbitnightmare]

HA OpenCL is a Linux technology. I love how Apple is smart enough to keep using Linux technologies... lmao if only Microsoft would wake up...

[dragonmoony]

but it doesn't work how it should on linux...

sooooo...

[caletz]

Great! Gary Keep it Up!

[epyonsk8r]

ok so with the snow leopard droping in about a year mac are gonna gets some upgrades like they always do. and i was planning on buying a new imac and a new macbook but since watching this video i think ill hold out untill snowleopard hits its only a year gives me time to save up anyway so i dont have to pull out the credit card

[TheMacHour]

What Mac do u have Gary?

[macmostvideo]

My main machine is a MacBook Pro, 15 inch. On the show you see a Core 2 Duo iMac.

[TheMacHour]

Nice Mac man I have a Macbook "Medium" or the 2nd best macbook!... anyway you are awesome!

[macosxrules]

cant u c? HE HAS A iMAC G5!!!!!!

[vannabie]

it does not look like a g5, which had different edges

[dirtypaper]

so it's more like a "service pack" or something?

[Hitsugaya333]

Actually, Snow Leopard will be able to support 500 TB RAM.

[Hitsugaya333]

Oops, Apple changed it. I think it used to say 500.

[nativeops]

how many processors does my core2duo actually have?

[MrMP81]

Two?

[NeoZource]

one processor, two cores

[nativeops]

wow, smaller footprint? they're finally getting it. i produce music and the worst thing ever is a huge footprint by the OS. Windows Vista is completely our of the question. If OS X wasn't around, i'd be forced to use Linux, which has an insanely small footprint.

16TB of memory, wow, that would be insane.

[PCFreak1123]

Snow Leopard,It won't run on powerpc , your white imac is power pc right, 2 bad looks like you need a new one...

[macmostvideo]

Nope. That's an Intel Dual Core iMac. So far, we only have reports that the developer version of Snow Leopard requires Intel, still no official word on whether that is Apple's plan for the final.

[PCFreak1123]

Oh sweet, thats good you have intel.

[marksapollo]

Wow, at last someone talking about the only thing I was interested in at the speech. I don't like the iPhone.

Anyway, it sounds great, will think about getting it for 2.4 Core 2 duo MB Pro.

[iknightthird]

i thought 10.6 would be called lynx. xd

[cumbersomecow]

wicked