Wudang Kung Fu Eight Immortal Sword / Ba Xian Jian

[RobLovesAlex10]

looks like wudang tai chi its pretty cool

[TheNZNick]

Slowly the youtube community is learning to ignore retarded comments instead of react to them. As this practice prevails the ridiculous criticism of everything and anything that happens so often on youtube will begin to fade away to a minor background murmur. Seriously only about 5-10% of comments are negative stupid criticisms, another 80% is people reacting to it or arguing with each other. The more we just ignore the ignorant and foolish the more room for proper comments.

[Coryfart]

Wu tang clan aint nothin to fuck with!!!

[TheDashius]

@Coryfart Read my mind lol

[Origional79s]

Bravo !! Bet your humble

[dontfeo]

man,.. he could cut u and u wouldn't even realize it soft

[parena9090]

lots of good technique in this form. Smooth as silk, wether this man can use it or not, eh, perhaps.....

[100percentserious]

very  good

[kungfuheadband]

Great video. I enjoyed this.

[Vikingman889]

There would be none of this without Zhang Senfeng

[Gman6755]

Very snazzy outfit!! Oh yeah, he kicks some serious ass with that sword!!!

[gojira1972]

Simply BEAUTIFUL.

[JadeForrest213]

Wudang clan aint nothing ta F*** with!

[AndyRaslan]

AGREED! No one can stand up to a Wudang wushu practitioner with a sword! BTW Nice work, Master!

[Aheyne]

Good thing no one uses swords anymore :)

[AndyRaslan]

Do you play 9Dragons? Wudang is not actually a clan, it's populated by the SanFeng sect of Daoism, focused on practising Wudang Wushu.

[RealDealKungFu]

why bother? You obviously wouldn't know real Traditional Chinese Martial Arts if it bit you. You're better off with this or Shaolin Kempo, or some crap.

[TaiChor5Gates]

You right .......... I would be better off with this or even kenpo......... judging by the fact that your school didn't teach you any humility or manners ...

[RealDealKungFu]

this is poseur Gung-Fu, not real gim. Wudang has gotten as phoney and commercial as Shaolin.

[TaiChor5Gates]

Lets see yours so that we could see SO CALLED REAL kung fu........

[Aheyne]

Yep, this is true.

[AndyRaslan]

Just because he's not using a combat steel sword doesn't mean it's not real Gong Fu. It only means he doesn't intend to kill people with it, and just uses his sword as a practice tool.

Just saying that about Wudang or Shaolin proves you have no respect for Gong Fu. Even if Shaolin has gotten commercial, their forms are still an ancient source of knowledge and power and their masters' skill is still real. Same for Wudang (though I doubt either of them actually got truly commercial).

[SsehKalai]

@AndyRaslan ... Not quite. Having an accurate blade is equally important to the way a form is performed as the internal body movements. Especially when it's one of these spring steel sword like objects. The balance of a blade should be forward of the guard (approx 6", can shift but needs sufficient weight behind it), where you can see in this clip that this rotates around the guard. That makes for very pretty forms, but lacking in combat capability. While you may intend never to kill someone...

[SsehKalai]

@AndyRaslan That doesn't mean that you should stop training with intent. To perfect a form, your every move should be filled with the intent of the correct application. To only have it as a training weapon, he can have a blunted blade, with the correct weighting. Plus he shouldn't push his heel back for a more beautiful stance, but rotate on said heel and move the toes into position. He makes that competition error a couple of times.

[AndyRaslan]

@SsehKalai Agreed, your form should be suited for self defense and, if necessary, killing. Intending to actually kill people and developing a deadly form are different things. I'm a student of Wudang Gong Fu and we're encouraged, for example, to use Fa Li in our forms. That can easily destroy someone's internal organs, but that doesn't mean we're actually going to use it to kill someone.

[SsehKalai]

@AndyRaslan I agree totally. However, do you train in weapons forms with weapons? Or do you use the items designed for opera. Training in jian forms myself, I significantly notice the difference in body mechanics when moving with a sword that isn't weighted properly. The weight of an antique or custom jian forces you to utilise more than your wrist. It makes everything fall into place and amplifies any errors you are making so that they can be corrected, unlike the sword-like object in the clip.

[AndyRaslan]

@SsehKalai I trained with a properly weighted, but poorly balanced sword. The one I just bought (and is still being delivered) ways 7-800 grams, which isn't much under the weight of a real jian (approx. 1.1 kg), right?

Regardless, I can't afford a real sword :D So I'm sticking with these modern wushu swords for now. I'll buy a real sword when I have the money and I'm good at Wudanjian.

[AndyRaslan]

@SsehKalai Weighs 800 grams* sorry for the typo. I just woke up.

Anyway, the sword I just bought is very well-balanced (or so they say), but not quite as heavy as it should be. But I prefer balance over weight :P

Still, you are right. Look at the martial arts world today: kendoka train with shinai, and not Katana or at least Bokken (to immitate the edge of a katana, because a shinai is round), wushu practitioners train with tin foils.... weapons have degraded, it's true.

[SsehKalai]

@AndyRaslan Typos are fine. 800 grams is at the light end of traditional jian, but there are antiques at 750g. My personal, custom made jian is at 940g. That said, my mujian (equivilent of a bokken for two person training and learning new stuff) is 790g.

As for balance, it should NOT balance around the guard (houshu) it should be around 5-6 inches towards the tip of the blade. I'll send you a link to a picture of where a beautifully balanced antique rests on my friends finger.

[AndyRaslan]

@SsehKalai I just weighed my sword and found out that the blade is 700 grams and the whole sword over 1 kg. It's a modern Gui Ding Northern Style straightsword, and it's great, at least for Wudang Jian.

[seravi]

@AndyRaslan If you want to train with sword, you would look into Iaido or Kenjutsu, not Kendo (a sport). "Wushu" as viewed by the western world is also a sport.

[AndyRaslan]

@seravi There are 2 types of wushu: modern and traditional. I study traditional Wudang wushu. I have tried Japanese martial arts, but they are too stiff and tensed for me. I preferred the influence of Taoism in both martial arts and life in general.

[Buuub08]

@seravi If you think "wushu" is a sport you are wrong. It does have its small branch made specifically for performances, however that part is only like 400 years old.

All Japanese martial arts are derived from Chinese, and thus even the terminology and names are mostly unchanged.

What the Japanese did was separate one martial art into countless styles and schools, typical for the Japanese mentality. btw, there is also a reason why you have some ending with -do and some with -jutsu.

[seravi]

@Buuub08 I said "as viewed by the western world".

[dontfeo]

@AndyRaslan ya they've gone commercial.. but they still get up at 5 in the morning and climb mountains and train until the evening jaja

[laduch]

Eight Immortals consist of a girl, a disabled beggar , a Taoist, an old man, a fat gambler, a flower boy, a musician, and a merchant...

[blestcurst]

MANK MANK MOTHERFUCKER

[9herbie99]

I have been to Wudan, and it looks like it. There are like 72 temples on Wudan shan

[TsunamiNoir]

It looks too girly. Haha.

[duanemperor]

That taoist guy is so cool ... but I wonder if that is the actual Wudang Temple which he is standing in front of?

[mbutchin]

There are, as Herbie points out, some seventy two temples on Wudangshan.

This sword routine is being performed in the middle court of the Purple Cloud Palace, Wudanshan.

[hiimsogood]

I know hes a taoist, I just thought you could call them taoist monks, and just because you have your hair shaved doesn't make you a monk lol, but yea, maybe ur right :P

[Troyocorus]

there are differences. a monk and a taoist are in totally different classes. a taoist focuses on philosophy and applying there skill to harmonize with his natural surroundings, disciplined mind and body . a monk is a student of that goal. however no matter how much we know, we are all students.

[Chronofied]

Bump.

[taichifist]

Sweet!!

[hiimsogood]

This makes me want to drop everything i'm doing in life and just come to China and train and become a monk.. I swear I'm going to once I finish college, I dream about being with you guys :(.

[largolegato]

Thanks. But this is not a monk, he's a taoist. ^ ^ Monks have their hair shaved.

[AndyRaslan]

Buddhist monks have their hair shaved.

This one is a Daoist, and I think he's a priest, not a monk. Big difference.

[Pumpkin4life]

You mean Taoist?

[AndyRaslan]

Same thing, different Pinyin (romanised spelling of Chinese).....

[recoil53]

Yes, but a Daoist learning a form created by one of the eight immortals is more appropriate.

[shinrei1]

magnifique

[odee900]

cool

[Euruproktos]

TKD is pretty good, but Tae Bo really is the ultimate martial art. Billy Blanks would kick this guys ass. Billy Blanks is the greatest martial artist of our time.

[OGenesis21]

I 2nd what DitangQuan says .. HONESLTY what cave have you been living in. "martial artists of our time" ... GET OUT MORE !

[boya76yosi]

hes not drunk enough!!!!!

[Babliclat]

everyone chill there is no way ozzydigger is serious.

[homeboydavid]

this is amazing kick box dont even compare to this are different styles but martial arts are better that kick box a wudang student can beat a very good kick boxer eny time

[Solophysco]

there are few vids on Wudang leg skills, they are more comparable to kick boxing

[ozzydigger]

hopeless he needs 2 learn tkd or kick boxing!!

[BbyKira]

i m afraid ur so called tkd or kick boxing do not even stand up against this...wat i m impressed is i don know that wudang have so many type of skills..hehe..i thought only have the normal taijiquan and taijijian..sorry folks...

[ozzydigger]

go back 2 your power rangers dumb ass any 1 that knows fung-fu will tell you tkd will kick his ass

[BbyKira]

haha...jus because tkd is famous it does not mean that it can kick ass...i really very sorry for ur ignorance about chinese kungfu..

[ozzydigger]

tkd would snap kick his head clean off the temple grounds! did any 1 get the number of that mack truck that just run over me? thats what he'll be saying!

[ozzydigger]

no need 2 be sorry there is no ignorance on my part

[forestrootshakyknees]

do some research, youre more ignorant than you think.

[HoYanJian]

He knows more then tkd or kick boxing i can asure you of that. Watch the other videos of him and you'lunderstand ;)

[forestrootshakyknees]

he's so accurate and sharp on every thrust.

amazing!

[AllenMcCloud]

i remember seeing this like when i was 4! memories i think im gonna get back into it! been slacking heavily over the years lol!

[34thshaolinstudent]

Are you in London? @ Raymetrious - if you are and are interested in learning that Wudang sword and Wudang styles, mail me ok?

[EKOkoeln]

you know that form? where you learnt it?

i´m very interessted.

greetz.

[wudangjian]

you know this form?

where you learnt it?

[Raymetrious]

so cool,now i'm gonna search for more sword technique videos

[815X46R]

Every time I log on I look for this video. It's so good, inspirational. What a great thing to be able to see forms like this by pushing buttons. Eddy

[GuiLongUmar]

wow...

[yumeji1]

my techs with a jian are alot similuar to this style.....thats kinda cool

[Falinir]

you posted this on my birthday. thank you for this unknown birthday gift.

[Hcalla02]

Yea Wudang Shan in Hubei

does anyone knoe if you can study with them, i would appreciate if any one replied

[NeoShinobi]

This temple is in the Wu dang mountains, I think.

[magellan500]

Totally awesome form, thanks!